2010.10.08 07:00 - Presence in Dreams

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Adams Rubble. The comments are by Adams Rubble.

    It was a short session...a converstaion with Lucinda. SL was acting up and most avatars were having trouble getting in. After the session ended Bruce arrived and he and I had a friendly chat for a few moments which I did not include in the log.

    Lucinda Lavender: Adams I see an interesting image across the way
    Lucinda Lavender: wondering about that
    Adams Rubble: ohhh
    Adams Rubble: a cutout of Bleu :)
    Lucinda Lavender: kind of reminds me of Bleu as she was dressed for the Time Session Art discussion
    Adams Rubble: It has her name on
    Adams Rubble: it is an object she created called "presence"
    Lucinda Lavender: she left her presence here...
    Lucinda Lavender: :)
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Lucinda Lavender: do not think I have ever had a sense of leaving presence anywhere...
    Adams Rubble: hmmm
    Adams Rubble: we leave part of ourselves in other people
    Adams Rubble: and they in us
    Lucinda Lavender: trhat is for sure...
    Lucinda Lavender: thinking of that alot these days
    Adams Rubble: sometimes it can feel like presence
    Lucinda Lavender: ok:)
    Adams Rubble: departed people may talk to us in dreams
    Adams Rubble: seems like they are prersent :)
    Lucinda Lavender: yes...read a book on that this month
    Adams Rubble: ohh?
    Lucinda Lavender: Bereavment dreaming
    Lucinda Lavender: it suggests that we internalize the meaning of the person over time
    Lucinda Lavender: and then let them go
    Lucinda Lavender: as they are then always with us
    Adams Rubble: yes
    Adams Rubble: I have always found that interesting
    Adams Rubble: people can leave positive or negative impressions of themselves in others that exist for years and years
    Adams Rubble: a bit like living on
    Lucinda Lavender: yes
    Adams Rubble: I have a dim view of my great grand[arents from 60 years ago
    Lucinda Lavender: and it somehow floats along..being some kind of thread or ancestral imprint?
    Adams Rubble: I also remember the lindness of a man who lived across the street when I was very young
    Adams Rubble: He seems real but I don;t even know what his name was
    Lucinda Lavender: :)...interesting what is remembered
    Adams Rubble: just that he was kind to us
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Lucinda Lavender: remembering kindness...
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    Adams Rubble: yes, and someone else who used to yell at us to get off her steps :)
    Lucinda Lavender: nodding
    Lucinda Lavender: there are those jarring experiences...
    Play as Being 15 minute bell: Thank you.
    Adams Rubble: I am wondering if she may just have yelled at us once :)
    Adams Rubble: hehe
    Adams Rubble: but I don't think they are the kind of things you mean
    Adams Rubble: There are much deeper memories
    Lucinda Lavender: yes
    Adams Rubble: My parents still give me advice in my dreams from time to time
    Lucinda Lavender: oh!
    Lucinda Lavender: that is lovely...
    Lucinda Lavender: ?
    Lucinda Lavender: the dreams over time have changed for me..much less verbal more like images
    Adams Rubble: hmmm. I haven't thought much about that
    Lucinda Lavender: is the advise simple and understandable?
    Adams Rubble: I am wondering now
    Lucinda Lavender: do you write yours down?
    Adams Rubble: yes it seems to involve simple things
    Adams Rubble: I write down some dreams
    Lucinda Lavender: It is so interesting to go back and reread I think...sometimes I have very little rememberance looking back at it
    Adams Rubble: those that seem meaningful and those that I do not understand
    Lucinda Lavender: other times when it feels deep and profound it is unforgetable
    Adams Rubble: yes
    Adams Rubble: Sometimes it seems my brain is just processing
    Lucinda Lavender: firing away...
    Lucinda Lavender: :)
    Adams Rubble: chaotic dreams...working through the day
    Adams Rubble: the past few weeks I had chaotic dreams every night and was exhausted when i woke up
    Adams Rubble: then suddenly one night everything calmed down
    Lucinda Lavender: have heard others say the same
    Lucinda Lavender: just yesterday a friend said something similar.
    Lucinda Lavender: I only remember 2-4 a month
    Lucinda Lavender: but recnetly had some very strong images
    Adams Rubble: It takes a bit of effort to record them :)
    Lucinda Lavender: dreamt one time of a new conductor surprising me at my door
    Lucinda Lavender: with a rose bush...no blooms tho
    Lucinda Lavender: I immediately dream knew to say...oh these are leftover from the memorial
    Lucinda Lavender: when surprising images come in the dream I ponder them for quite a while
    Adams Rubble: it is interesting how how our dreams can answer the myseteries they cerate for us
    Adams Rubble: yes, me too
    Lucinda Lavender: they feel very creative
    Adams Rubble: sometimes they need to sit for a week or two
    Lucinda Lavender: don't think my conscious mind is as smart as the dreaming one...
    Adams Rubble: hehe
    Adams Rubble: Sometimes it seems that way doesn't it :)
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    Lucinda Lavender: yes...
    Play as Being 15 minute bell: Thank you.
    Lucinda Lavender: must go for now...the chickens are calling:)
    Adams Rubble: nice to chat with you Lucinda :)
    Lucinda Lavender: sky is getting light and all...yes Adams.thanks :)
    Adams Rubble: It was a beautiful morning here this morning
    Lucinda Lavender: curious where here is...
    Adams Rubble: NJ
    Lucinda Lavender: ah
    Adams Rubble: mid morning now
    Adams Rubble: Have a very good morning :)
    Lucinda Lavender: thanks again...
    Lucinda Lavender: I will
    Adams Rubble: bye

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