2010.10.11 19:00 - Something about Desire

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    The Guardian for this meeting was SophiaSharon Larnia. The comments are by SophiaSharon Larnia.


    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Paradise :)
    Elia Scribe: what is this place about?
    Paradise Tennant: hiya sophia .. ellia :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: You've never been here before Elia?
    Paradise Tennant: discussions about what constitutes reality mostly .. :) the perception of time .. appearances :)
    Elia Scribe: I don't think so :)))
    Paradise Tennant: would you like a notecard ?
    Elia Scribe: That's interesting.
    Elia Scribe: Sure.
    Paradise Tennant: we record the chat logs to a wiki page do you object to that ?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: thanks Paradise :D
    Elia Scribe: Not at all. I have no secrets :))
    SophiaSharon Larnia: smiles
    Paradise Tennant: smiles at sophia :)
    Elia Scribe: Nothing is private any more :)))

    SophiaSharon Larnia: interesting picture over there, free bruce and blub!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I agree Elia, so very little off the grid
    Paradise Tennant: bleu did it up there are shirts would you like one
    SophiaSharon Larnia: sure
    Paradise Tennant: elia the website where you can read the chat logs is called playasbeing.org
    Elia Scribe: OK.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I've been away from this pavilion in what seems like forever
    Paradise Tennant: busy in rl :)
    Paradise Tennant: or travelling ?
    Paradise Tennant: is this your session sophia ?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes, very much so, of my own creation... some traveling too
    SophiaSharon Larnia: it wouldn't let me claim it Paradise, sorry :) I've been trying for several minutes
    SophiaSharon Larnia: got it now

    Elia Scribe: Can you call the 9-second moment working meditation?
    Paradise Tennant: yes :)
    Paradise Tennant: i use to program my watch
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i like to think of it as a stopping of the work meditation :)
    Paradise Tennant: so I would hear the beep and stop to breathe
    Paradise Tennant: now just do it by habit :)
    Paradise Tennant: smiles at sophia excellent point :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :) the stopping of the struggle
    SophiaSharon Larnia: what do you mean by working meditation, Elia?
    Elia Scribe: I think that's a definition in classic meditation.
    Elia Scribe: Meditation while doing activities, rather than sitting.
    Elia Scribe: Sitting is a term used by meditators.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: nods
    Paradise Tennant: doing one thing at a time is a moving meditation :)
    Elia Scribe: Why is that?
    Elia Scribe: I mean, if you meditate while washing the dishes, are you doing one thing at a time?
    Paradise Tennant: well if you are fully in the moment . .. yes
    Elia Scribe: So the one thing is you being?
    Paradise Tennant: plus the added benefit of getting the dishes clean smiles
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi stevenaia
    Paradise Tennant: hiya stevenaia
    stevenaia Michinaga: hi Sophia, Paradise, Eila
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Elia Scribe:  Hi Steve  That's a pretty dress!!
    stevenaia Michinaga: thank you... it was a gift
    Bleu Oleander: hi everyone :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia wishes her computer was better to see it
    stevenaia Michinaga: hello Bleu
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Bleu :)
    Paradise Tennant: hiya bleu gtsy
    SophiaSharon Larnia: wow Bleu, you have changed :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: perhaps it will Rezz in time
    Bleu Oleander: as always :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I'm not at my home, on an old computer :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes Bleu :D
    Paradise Tennant: loving the new look bleu :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: my spouse's laptop, which isn't old, won't run SL
    Bleu Oleander: ty Paradise :)


    stevenaia Michinaga: Bleu, your skin reminds me of Lucinda's box, worn on your outside (stars)
    Bleu Oleander: yes exactly ....
    Paradise Tennant: smiles
    Paradise Tennant: beautiful
    Bleu Oleander: wearing the universe :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: I enjoy going there (inside her sculpture)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: smiles widely
    Paradise Tennant: grins :)
    Paradise Tennant: elia is new to pab .. bleu steve ..how would you describe what we do here :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: I've been thinking about that recently
    stevenaia Michinaga: (how to describe this place)
    stevenaia Michinaga: I have been coming here for many years.... the things I have learned from the discussions here have been like shopping and finding new clothes that fit
    Paradise Tennant: smiles at steve
    stevenaia Michinaga: seems there is much "other there" that is looking for a place to be worn by me, not that it defines me, just fits a bit snugger
    stevenaia Michinaga: well, fits
    stevenaia Michinaga: more taylored
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Paradise Tennant: nods and smiles or downright breezy :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: does that makes sense
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yep
    Paradise Tennant: yes very good sense
    SophiaSharon Larnia: to both!
    stevenaia Michinaga: I knew nothng about buddism, daoism, non-duality, Being
    Bleu Oleander: lots to "try on" here!
    Paradise Tennant: likes the boots :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: now I see the pieces of me fit comfortably into some of those aspects, nice to know what I thought was original to me were things that people were thinking about for a few thousand years
    Bleu Oleander: ha!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: nods
    Elia Scribe: Sorry Paradise, everyone. I need to go to a meeting that I'm late for :))
    Elia Scribe: I'll come again. I have your blog bookmarked.
    stevenaia Michinaga: hope to see you again
    Bleu Oleander: nice to meet you Elia
    Paradise Tennant: no worries hope to see you again :) check out the website
    Bleu Oleander: see you soon
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Elia! Nice to see you here, we have 4 meetings a day here, 7am 1pm 7pm and 1am slt
    Paradise Tennant: there are some interesting dialogues and book chapters to read :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: poof
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I thought i was fast
    stevenaia Michinaga: hope I didn't bore him
    stevenaia Michinaga: (slow typing)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I dount it
    SophiaSharon Larnia: doubt*
    SophiaSharon Larnia wants a doughnut too

    stevenaia Michinaga: I'll be helping you spellcheck this one Sophia
    SophiaSharon Larnia: nah
    Paradise Tennant: smiles steve you are most certainly not boring :)
    Bleu Oleander: it takes some time to get into the rhythm of PaB
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ill fix it :D
    stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: spellcheck panic dissipates
    SophiaSharon Larnia: giggles


    stevenaia Michinaga: I find it interesting that the more I begin to read about Daoism, do Tai Chi, read the iChing, the more these things feel like planets orbiting about me, like a newly assembled environment
    Paradise Tennant: smiels
    Paradise Tennant: lol smiles
    Bleu Oleander: :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: how wonderful, to hear the word newly there
    stevenaia Michinaga: none of which I would ahve been exposed to w/o this little group
    Paradise Tennant: nods it is a wonderful little group .. of diverse smart artistic creative souls I am so happy I landed here by accident too
    Bleu Oleander: me too!
    stevenaia Michinaga: if there is such a thing as "accident"
    Paradise Tennant: smiles maybe not :)
    Bleu Oleander: unique paths brought us here
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I don't really think so, although sometimes I wish I did, or that there was
    Paradise Tennant: lol I was shopping for a sari :) did a search for india I think :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I use them to cover round tables, para, but havent worn one yet :D
    stevenaia Michinaga: you dressed your funiture in saris?
    Paradise Tennant: smiles I lay them across the bottom of my bed .. use them as curtains I have yet to wear one outside :) but maybe some day :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia just notice Stevenaia is naked under all those feathers
    Paradise Tennant: lol
    Paradise Tennant: not quite
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I do, steve, and the couch
    Paradise Tennant: great idea
    stevenaia Michinaga: no, I have something on under there (though not much), still some rezzing to do
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ah, okay,
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :D
    SophiaSharon Larnia: wanted to make pillows out of them but couldnt bear to cut them up
    SophiaSharon Larnia: need big scaps :)
    Paradise Tennant: smiles
    SophiaSharon Larnia: scraps*

    SophiaSharon Larnia: i had a thought for the last 6 months that it was all about experience, and a few days ago, something felt off about that.
    Paradise Tennant: they are works of art .. do not think there is more beautiful clothing for women on the planet than saris
    SophiaSharon Larnia: nods
    Paradise Tennant: can you say more sophia
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I'm not sure if I can.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I thought that life was in part for the sake of experience
    SophiaSharon Larnia: enjoying being in 3d influenced by time
    SophiaSharon Larnia: time/change etc
    SophiaSharon Larnia: but now wonder if the need for experience is what causes desire
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I've heard from the beginning of pab, to drop that and see being, being seeing, and so forth
    stevenaia Michinaga: trying to weave the magic of your words together
    SophiaSharon Larnia: laughs
    stevenaia Michinaga: ...listens


    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Lucinda
    Bleu Oleander: hi Luci
    Lucinda Lavender: Hi All
    Paradise Tennant: hiya lucinder ..
    stevenaia Michinaga: hello lucinda
    Lucinda Lavender: :)
    Paradise Tennant: sophia was just speaking to desire ..
    Lucinda Lavender: wondering if Bruce has been freed...?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :D
    stevenaia Michinaga: smiles
    Bleu Oleander: not yet
    Paradise Tennant: not yet
    SophiaSharon Larnia: has he?>
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oh.
    Lucinda Lavender: Interesting...and desire if which sort?
    Lucinda Lavender: of?
    stevenaia Michinaga: desire created out of experience
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I hadn't differentiated them as such, just saying the need for experience leading to desire
    Lucinda Lavender: thanks
    SophiaSharon Larnia: its like a puzzle
    SophiaSharon Larnia: to me
    Paradise Tennant: which begets which ?
    stevenaia Michinaga: experience is like all the fruit you can pick (from)
    stevenaia Michinaga: desire must be the choice of which one you pick
    stevenaia Michinaga: thinking my fruit metaphor is making me hungry...
    SophiaSharon Larnia: what if this need to experience leads to desire, what is the lack of need of experience... no desire.... would everything just stop in it's tracks or what would happen?
    Bleu Oleander: :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: and by stop I mean end
    SophiaSharon Larnia: that sounded much more morbid then I intended, I mean what would come after
    SophiaSharon Larnia: happiness?
    Lucinda Lavender: a sense of emptiness?
    Paradise Tennant: enlightenment .. buddha mind
    Lucinda Lavender: :)
    Paradise Tennant: seeing beyond
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I'm not sure if I understand or follow that
    stevenaia Michinaga: reminds me of Wu wei, doing by not doing, does not me not doing
    stevenaia Michinaga: it is just another way of doing
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ok, if everyone did that, what would happen
    stevenaia Michinaga: some think.. harmony
    Lucinda Lavender: IN the system of principles that I study for dreaming Desire is 25 and it is located in the eyes. The eyes are being seeing...perhaps
    SophiaSharon Larnia: theres a need to drink and eat, and a need to work to have those things
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hmm
    Paradise Tennant: nods very fond of .. eating and drinking
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oh I think Bleu crashed
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hehe Para me too
    stevenaia Michinaga: is satisfation a "thing"
    SophiaSharon Larnia: lack of hunger
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i feel like im grasping onto ideas before i let them go
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i feel like something needs to take their place before I can do that
    stevenaia Michinaga: if you don;t grasp, there is nothing to let go of
    SophiaSharon Larnia: nods
    Paradise Tennant: hmmm
    Lucinda Lavender: good point
    Paradise Tennant: hard to let go ..
    stevenaia Michinaga: you can't open an already open hand
    Paradise Tennant: best to start with the things you like the least :))))
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes, and in my very particular way, im making them nonsensical
    Lucinda Lavender: wb Bleu
    stevenaia Michinaga: wb bleu
    SophiaSharon Larnia: wb Bleu :)
    Paradise Tennant: wb bleu
    Bleu Oleander: sl logged me off
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :(
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I must go now, I have to get up really early in the morning!
    Paradise Tennant: thank you sophia :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: by all, so nice to see you!
    Bleu Oleander: bye SSL
    SophiaSharon Larnia: thank you!!!!
    stevenaia Michinaga: night sophia
    Lucinda Lavender: bye and rest well...
    Paradise Tennant: smiles I should go too :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: night PAradise
    Bleu Oleander: me too
    Lucinda Lavender: do you think that SL has rolling logouts?
    Bleu Oleander: night all
    stevenaia Michinaga: usually they warn you
    Lucinda Lavender: night bleu:)
    Bleu Oleander: take care :)
    Paradise Tennant: thanks for an interesting session .. namaste :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: night Bleu


    stevenaia Michinaga: I was saying earlier how much bleu's new skin reminds me of the inside of your sculpture
    Lucinda Lavender: Interesting...I have not looked at the skin close up...another time I will try.
    stevenaia Michinaga: opps, missed the bell
    Lucinda Lavender: oops
    stevenaia Michinaga: it looked like your stars
    Lucinda Lavender: hmmm
    Lucinda Lavender: interesting...I have also heard that the molecular structure of bones is very much like certain stones
    stevenaia Michinaga: in what way?
    Lucinda Lavender: well there is one kind of stone that is called apatite that is similar to bone in make up...this I have heard...
    Lucinda Lavender: so to create skin like stars...is in a similar vein
    stevenaia Michinaga: nods
    Lucinda Lavender: :) will look for the discussion about desire...
    Lucinda Lavender: that already happened
    Lucinda Lavender: thinking about a part in the movie called What the Bleep do we know
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes, it was an interesting perspecetive that I would love to continue with Sopiasharon another time
    Lucinda Lavender: Did you ever see that movie?
    stevenaia Michinaga: no
    Lucinda Lavender: it had a section where it showed in cartoon form what is going on hormonally when people are attracted
    Lucinda Lavender: kind of extreme tho interesting
    stevenaia Michinaga: hmm, like chemical love?
    Lucinda Lavender: yes:)
    Lucinda Lavender: rushes of dopamine
    stevenaia Michinaga: nods
    Lucinda Lavender: and receptors that are very strong
    Lucinda Lavender: just interesting
    Lucinda Lavender: sometimes I wonder far ones desires are rooted in past
    stevenaia Michinaga: or in the future :)
    Lucinda Lavender: and whether ancestral threadsyes or the future can be impacting sensed desire
    Lucinda Lavender: not threads eyes...threads yes...
    stevenaia Michinaga: I see my life with desire rooted in fate
    stevenaia Michinaga: fate presents the choises, desire choises
    Lucinda Lavender: nodding


    Lucinda Lavender: fate as in possible outcomes?
    stevenaia Michinaga: fate as a menu of options
    Lucinda Lavender: yes
    Lucinda Lavender: I experience certain ideas that pop in...and suggest possibilities...which I then try to keep in view
    Lucinda Lavender: if I am listening
    stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: love the pop-in moments
    stevenaia Michinaga: nice to know there is a little extra room for that upstairs
    Lucinda Lavender: yes..sometimes they are confused emotion tho which are hard to detangle
    stevenaia Michinaga: it is creative energy for em
    Lucinda Lavender: have decided that when emotions get confusing...I should take special note:)
    Lucinda Lavender: more is going on than meets the eye
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes, watch them
    stevenaia Michinaga: and listen
    Lucinda Lavender: and sometimes ask others for their time and patience while I figure out something out...
    Lucinda Lavender: can't always know what is getting closer to the surface
    stevenaia Michinaga: It's late and time to sleep here
    Lucinda Lavender: thanks...
    stevenaia Michinaga: thanks for coming

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