2010.10.15 13:00 - o si yo , sillyness after the retreat

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Yakuzza Lethecus. The comments are by Yakuzza Lethecus.

    arabella Ella: Hiya Satre!
    Sartre Placebo: how are you today ?
    Freud Jungsten: O si yo.'
    arabella Ella: Hiya Freud
    arabella Ella: I am fine thanks
    arabella Ella: How are you after the retreat?
    Sartre Placebo: fine, bit occupied since i accpeted to play a role in a theatre piece this evening as well :P
    arabella Ella: in RL or SL?
    Sartre Placebo: so having to catch up with multiple identity´s and realize that i can only grab the log here with yakuzza
    Sartre Placebo: but can´t leave the virtual berlin because i couldn´t return otherwise
    arabella Ella giggles
    Sartre Placebo: it´s a piece as part of the slanguages conference
    arabella Ella: so what is this theatre piece?
    Sartre Placebo: just in pillar in the first scene of baal
    Sartre Placebo: could you grab the log i will pick it up later :)
    arabella Ella: i only came in for around 10 mins
    arabella Ella: and i have never done the log - my confession!
    arabella Ella: I would not know what to do
    Sartre Placebo: it´s fine i still have sartre´s log :)
    arabella Ella: so do you want me to do something but I would need an explanation?
    Sartre Placebo: the transition from the retreat is enourmous
    arabella Ella: oh yes
    arabella Ella: it always is
    arabella Ella: anyway you go take care of Yaku
    arabella Ella: cos u must be busy there too
    Sartre Placebo: it was really facinating and we had such a small group
    arabella Ella: oh yes so i expect it must have been quite intense at times
    Sartre Placebo: i don´t have to do anything right now, in a few minutes the play is going to start, but only one role
    arabella Ella: oh ok i see
    arabella Ella: so if i may ask
    Freud Jungsten: brb
    arabella Ella: what time did the retreat finish today?
    arabella Ella: and let me know when you need to attend to other matters :)
    Sartre Placebo: at 14:30 or something when piet went to the time session
    arabella Ella: ah ok i see
    Sartre Placebo: he had to find a room
    arabella Ella nods
    Sartre Placebo: with wifi since we had to clear our rooms earlier
    arabella Ella: ah ok
    arabella Ella: and was there a highlight of the retreat?
    arabella Ella: or have you decided to take on sessions as we had done after Malta to speak about it?
    --BELL--
    Sartre Placebo: hightlight is not a good term for the retreat, but sure i liked the monkeys :)
    Sartre Placebo: then we had various little highlights
    arabella Ella: the monkeys?
    Sartre Placebo: hehe, our metaphor for distracting thoughtpatterns
    arabella Ella: oh yes someone mentioned mind monkeys here the other day i think it was Yaku
    Sartre Placebo: jep i did
    Sartre Placebo: :)
    arabella Ella: not you Sartre, that was Yaku :)
    Sartre Placebo: but other ppl of course have other tiny highlights
    arabella Ella: yes of course
    arabella Ella: i guess it must have been quite an experience
    arabella Ella: and i was really sorry to miss it
    arabella Ella: especially since the distant retreats are too expensive for my budget
    Sartre Placebo: we had good practices and experiences
    arabella Ella: yes
    Sartre Placebo: on being seing and explainations concerning their meaning for pema
    arabella Ella: oh good
    arabella Ella: so do you feel you understand a lot more now about the whole process ... or do you need ttime to let it all settle?
    Sartre Placebo: i as usually don´t claim to have understood anything, as usual :)
    arabella Ella smiles understandingly
    Sartre Placebo: but i learned a lot
    arabella Ella: yes of course
    arabella Ella: i think i need to get back to doing some work now
    arabella Ella: but nice to see you briefly
    arabella Ella: bye for now
    Sartre Placebo: sry, for not expressing everything cleary, i should compress my thoughts in better notes
    Sartre Placebo: take care ara, nice to see you!
    arabella Ella: hey you express your thoughts very nicely believe me!
    arabella Ella: bye
    Sartre Placebo: hey alf :)
    Sartre Placebo: and aidan
    Sartre Placebo: hey bruce
    Bruce Mowbray: Hey, Alfred.
    Bruce Mowbray: Hey, Aidan.
    Sartre Placebo: i´ll be here with yaku later my main av is occupied right now
    Aidan Spiritor: Hello
    Alfred Kelberry: ah, sartre is yaku?
    Bruce Mowbray: I've been building on my plot -- for the first time ever!
    Bruce Mowbray: A whole new experience.
    Sartre Placebo: of coruse
    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    Bruce Mowbray: Fun, too!
    Alfred Kelberry: what did you build, bruce?
    Bruce Mowbray: Oh my -- several pieces of fence - two trees, several planters . . . and two jack-o-lanterns!
    Alfred Kelberry: wow
    Alfred Kelberry: productive :)
    Alfred Kelberry: it's growing! :)
    --BELL--
    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    Alfred Kelberry: :P
    Bruce Mowbray: I'm still seeing Alfred as a cloud.
    Freud Jungsten: Back.. sorry.
    Alfred Kelberry: yaku, is it the last day of the retreat?
    Freud Jungsten: So what have I missed?
    Alfred Kelberry: bruce, i ain't no cloud :)
    Sartre Placebo: i will be occupied for a while now :(
    Alfred Kelberry: how so?
    Bruce Mowbray: I know, Al. . . . I miss your boxyness. . . or maybe it's just my slow connection.
    Sartre Placebo: i am at the slangagues conference with my main av
    Alfred Kelberry: boxyness :)
    Sartre Placebo: actually, on stage :P
    Alfred Kelberry: oh, please tell more, yaku
    Bruce Mowbray: Go for it, Sartre! Good luck, too!
    Sartre Placebo: ah, just a little play as part of the slanguages conference in the berlin of the 1920th
    Sartre Placebo: they haven´t had enough actors
    Alfred Kelberry: [s]languages?
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello everybody :)
    Bruce Mowbray: Hello, aggers!
    Alfred Kelberry: i thought it's linguisitcs related :)
    Agatha Macbeth: I see the building nearby is coming along nicely
    Sartre Placebo: hey aggers
    Bruce Mowbray: is that the Village Hall, aggers?
    Bruce Mowbray: Storm just moved it today.
    Agatha Macbeth: Mmm, and the café
    Alfred Kelberry: btw, yaku, if i'm not mistaken, there's a sim in sl devoted to berlin of the 20s
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, I have been to that sim --- a long time ago.
    Aidan Spiritor: Nice to meet you and thanks for allowing me to sit in...must leave now....
    Alfred Kelberry: yes, me too. looked very authentic.
    Bruce Mowbray: Would anyone like to claim this session?
    Bruce Mowbray: If not, I shall do so.
    Alfred Kelberry: go on, bruce :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Claim away Bruce :)
    Bruce Mowbray: ok. . . .
    Agatha Macbeth: Nice to see you back btw
    Agatha Macbeth: How did they free you?
    Bruce Mowbray: Thank you! It feels so great to be back -- and GOSH - I do appreciate all the support.
    Agatha Macbeth: Good to see Blub too
    Alfred Kelberry: good to see a mica guy at pab, aidan :)
    Bruce Mowbray: Apparently, SL did a rolling restart of the region on Wednesday -- the same day that the miners were freed in Chili.
    Aidan Spiritor: mica?
    Agatha Macbeth: Coincidence? ;-)
    Alfred Kelberry: that's what your tag says, aidan :)
    Bruce Mowbray: Yeppers -- Free at last -- for all of us.
    Agatha Macbeth: FREE AT LAST!!!
    Aidan Spiritor: hmmm?
    Agatha Macbeth: (To quote MLK)
    Agatha Macbeth: You look somehow strange, Satre
    Aidan Spiritor: I guess i picked that up accidentally while visiting there..
    Agatha Macbeth: (Maybe he fell asleep again)
    Bruce Mowbray: One of your groups is MICA astrophysics, Aidan.
    Aidan Spiritor: BYE
    Agatha Macbeth: Shalom
    Freud Jungsten: do na da go hv i
    Bruce Mowbray: Sartre has bifurcated himself and is multi-tasking.
    Agatha Macbeth: Absolutely Freud ;-)
    Bruce Mowbray: Bye, Aidan.
    Freud Jungsten smiles
    Agatha Macbeth: Can you get arrested for that?
    Freud Jungsten: He is hoping.
    Bruce Mowbray: Bifurcation is banned in some states, I believe. . .
    Agatha Macbeth: Shame
    Alfred Kelberry: a musical question... do you think it's possible to "spot" or "assess" a certain national "spirit" in a classical composition? say austrian or russian
    Bruce Mowbray: Hmmmm. . . Interesting question.
    Bruce Mowbray: in a classical composition. . . . (Think of Chopin, Rachminanov, Tchaikovsky. . . )
    --BELL--
    Alfred Kelberry: i wonder if there's such a pattern that when you strip away composer, conductor, and musicians themselves, it would emerge
    Freud Jungsten: Well, in Native American song, even without the words you can tell what part of the continent it si from.
    Bruce Mowbray: Fascinating. . . One would need to be familiar with those traditions, or not?
    Freud Jungsten: Well, to say which was from which culture yes.... but to tell they are different, no.
    Bruce Mowbray wonders what was behind Alfred's question. . .
    Alfred Kelberry: i assume so... at least that's the first approach
    Agatha Macbeth: 'Fraid I need to go folks, be happy
    Freud Jungsten: Ciao bella.
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, aggers -- enjoy your weekend!
    Alfred Kelberry: freud, how would you do it with a classical composition?
    Freud Jungsten: I dated a Russian for a coouple of years, and you can tell Russian music is different ... or at least I think so.
    Alfred Kelberry: you mean russian folk music?
    Bruce Mowbray: There will soon be re-broadcast on PBS a series on Native Americans. . . Did you watch it the first time around, Freud?
    Freud Jungsten: No, like (butchering spellings here)...Shostokovich and Stravnisky... never heard anything like them.
    Freud Jungsten: No.
    Freud Jungsten: I find most stuff about us on TV just makes me laugh or angry.
    Alfred Kelberry: bruce, it's a follow-up on a conversation i had in rl
    Alfred Kelberry: freud, can you describe what was different for you?
    Bruce Mowbray: Me too, Freud, but PBS often does very good stuff -- like the Gon In America series they did this week. Extremely well done, I thought.
    Freud Jungsten: I am not a TV person, sorry.
    Freud Jungsten: Which do you mean different?
    Bruce Mowbray listens for more from Al about music and nationality.
    Freud Jungsten: Not sure I got that grammar right.
    Alfred Kelberry: you said russian music was different - how?
    Freud Jungsten: Well those composers I mentioned seem to have a...... particular ..... randomness to them.
    Freud Jungsten: Not heard them anyplace else.
    Bruce Mowbray: Hi, Wol!
    Wol Euler: hello freud, alf, bruce, sartre
    Freud Jungsten: O si yo.
    Wol Euler: nice to have you back with us, bruce.
    Alfred Kelberry: hmm... randomness. can you please elaborate?
    Alfred Kelberry: oi, woly :)
    Alfred Kelberry: chaotic, unpredicted?
    Freud Jungsten: Not to be unflattering ( and Sama would kill me if I said this to her in person)... but yes.... and generally unpleasant.
    Alfred Kelberry: nice dress, woly. as usual :)
    Alfred Kelberry: ok, thank you, freud
    Wol Euler: ty
    Freud Jungsten: But then again, I listen to groups like Horde, Schlectvalk and Project 86..... so I have no reason to say antying about anyon's music tastes... smiles
    Bruce Mowbray: This afternoon I took a long hike in RL with my dog - as I do every day - and I listened to Mozart the entire time on my iPod.
    Alfred Kelberry: woly, do you listen to classical music?
    Alfred Kelberry: bruce :)
    Wol Euler: yes but not exclusively
    Alfred Kelberry: that's a lovely hike... mozart and a dgo :)
    Bruce Mowbray: Sometimes it's Hayden. . . sometimes Enya. . . sometimes Beethoven, Bach, etc. but never Project 86.
    Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
    Alfred Kelberry: oh, it reminds me of a movie: mozart and the whale :)
    Wol Euler: :)
    Alfred Kelberry: great one
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, I listen to classical music when I walk -- either that or podcasts from Zen monasteries.
    Bruce Mowbray runs to Netflix to order Mozart and the Whale.
    Alfred Kelberry: bruce, ever tried to spot national tones in it?
    Alfred Kelberry: bruce :)
    Bruce Mowbray: in Mozart? Mmmmm. . . . never thought of that, really.
    Wol Euler: whcih nation?
    Wol Euler: *which
    Alfred Kelberry: bruce, in classical music
    Bruce Mowbray: Austria. . . (for Mozart, anyway.)
    Freud Jungsten: Mozart was Austrian?
    Freud Jungsten: OK.
    Bruce Mowbray: Salsburg.
    Wol Euler: the Austrians think so
    Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
    Freud Jungsten: Would love to go there.
    Alfred Kelberry: woly, national spirit if you like
    Freud Jungsten: Been to Munich.. loved it.
    Bruce Mowbray: Benn to both Munich and Heidelberg -- great beerhalls in both!
    Bruce Mowbray: been*
    Alfred Kelberry: of course, composer's nationality gives a huge bias. we tend to think that if it's mozart, it must be austrian spirit.
    Freud Jungsten: Not a huge beer sorta gal.. more a wino... smiles.
    Freud Jungsten: And Taquilla of course.
    Bruce Mowbray wonders what American music would sound like to Alfred. . . Gershwin? Burnstein?
    --BELL--
    Wol Euler: my dears, I must move on. Things to see, people to do.
    Wol Euler: take care, be musical
    Bruce Mowbray: Enjoy your weekend, Wol!
    Alfred Kelberry: bye, woly
    Freud Jungsten: Ciao.
    Bruce Mowbray: In America. . . I feel like I can tell the difference between east coast and west coast music.
    Bruce Mowbray: New York has a flavor all its own, of course.
    Freud Jungsten: I know so little about "classical"music.
    Bruce Mowbray: I was raised on Bach and Mozart -- literally from the age of 5.
    Alfred Kelberry: bruce, i'm talking specifically about classical music
    Bruce Mowbray: That was NOT my choice, you understand.
    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    Bruce Mowbray: but i came to appreciate it - eventually.
    Freud Jungsten: There is so much good music out there.
    Freud Jungsten: But so much bad as well.
    Alfred Kelberry: i've gone through many genres and appreciated them all :)
    Freud Jungsten: i.e. disco.
    Alfred Kelberry: except trash metal maybe :)
    Freud Jungsten: Thrash metal is great.
    Freud Jungsten: I am more into screamo though.
    Freud Jungsten: Particularly woman fronted... smiles
    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    Bruce Mowbray wonders. . . . "screamo" ????
    Freud Jungsten: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SRDvynJTOk
    Bruce Mowbray thinks, Oh dear, do I dare....?
    Freud Jungsten: lol
    Freud Jungsten: I will spare you the Grindcore for teh moment...... smies
    Freud Jungsten: smiles
    Bruce Mowbray: Cool! In Stuttgart. . . but . . . OMG.
    Alfred Kelberry: nice drums :)
    Bruce Mowbray: "Walls of Jerico....."
    Freud Jungsten: Great band..... highly recomended.
    Bruce Mowbray wonders if "grindgore" could be . . . . [worse]. . . sry, Freud.
    Bruce Mowbray: "Screamo" has driven Bruce screaming for another glass of gin. . .
    Freud Jungsten: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9AcG0glVu4
    Alfred Kelberry: it's actually pretty good, freud :)
    Freud Jungsten: Just one glass?
    Freud Jungsten: This is arch enemby.
    Alfred Kelberry: it's not trash metal, though
    Freud Jungsten: brb... crashing.
    Alfred Kelberry: ha! :)
    Alfred Kelberry: urls + sl = crash :)
    Bruce Mowbray: mmmmm. . . . Nemesis. . . . sounds like mosquitoes. . . . (sry again, Freud.)
    Alfred Kelberry: i mean... if she didn't "sing" it would be better :)
    Alfred Kelberry: music itself is alright
    Bruce Mowbray: Hello, Lucinda.
    Alfred Kelberry: oi, luci
    Alfred Kelberry: buce, what dog do you have?
    Lucinda Lavender: Hi Bruce, Alfred, Sartre...
    Bruce Mowbray: It IS??? All right?! The "music" - - - (Bruce thinks he's experiencing an enormous g-a-p. . . . generational, perhaps.)
    Alfred Kelberry: note: sartre = yaku :)
    Bruce Mowbray: Welcome, Luci.
    Bruce Mowbray: Sartre/Yaku is bifurcating at the moment.
    Lucinda Lavender: oops...
    Alfred Kelberry: bruce... i think it's a defensive reaction towards something, assumingly, foreign
    Lucinda Lavender: sitting can be such a task!
    Bruce Mowbray: My dog - Bear - is part black labrador and part border collie.
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, it was fun satching you, though, Luci.
    Alfred Kelberry: luci, i liked your first choice :)
    Bruce Mowbray: watching*
    Lucinda Lavender: :)))
    Bruce Mowbray: Luci
    Alfred Kelberry: labradors are cute
    Lucinda Lavender: blushes...
    Bruce Mowbray: Luci' sitting is a bit like my typing.
    Bruce Mowbray: Labs are wonderful companion dogs.
    Alfred Kelberry: bruce, what if we extend openness into music as well?
    Bruce Mowbray: and border collies are wonderfully intelligent.
    Bruce Mowbray: so a combination of the two turns out really well.
    Lucinda Lavender: typing is quite a task.tooo
    Alfred Kelberry: haha, bruce :)
    Alfred Kelberry: yes, intelligent cutie :)
    --BELL--
    Lucinda Lavender: I am actually not staying long...just wanted to ask how I should visualize where the new village Hall will be............
    Bruce Mowbray wants to extend openness to music. . . . (and to all breeds of dogs, also) --- Perhaps there is a connection, there.
    Bruce Mowbray: Glad that you dropped in, Luci. I have visited the Village Hall in its new location -- You can walk there easily from here.
    Lucinda Lavender: extending openess sounds also sounds like an interesting subject
    Lucinda Lavender: ok good
    Bruce Mowbray: It is off to your right.
    Lucinda Lavender: ok
    Lucinda Lavender: is there something like closing that happens with music ?
    Sartre Placebo: hey lucy
    Lucinda Lavender: actually today I watched a child react to music in a very interesting manner
    Lucinda Lavender: hey Sartre
    Bruce Mowbray: Well, i was having a bit of a problem "opening" myself to the industrial noise music. . . that Freud was feeding us YouTube vids to see.
    Lucinda Lavender: ah
    Lucinda Lavender: hi Annoying...
    Bruce Mowbray listens for more from Luci about the child,
    Freud Jungsten smiles
    Freud Jungsten: O si yo...
    Lucinda Lavender: this child loves baby einstein...bach etc
    Alfred Kelberry: bruce, remember how jazz was once considered noise? :)
    Bruce Mowbray: Oh yes!
    Bruce Mowbray: yes, I do -- and I also recall how I came to LOVE it.
    Lucinda Lavender: and today when I played a childrens record with simple casual style to it by Hap Palmer...he went in to an unusual state!
    Bruce Mowbray: wb, Freud!
    Bruce Mowbray: "an unusual state" ???
    Freud Jungsten: Thanks... had to hard reboot.... worrysome.
    Lucinda Lavender: His reaction was to start saying repetatively...Ma, Ma, Maetc...for the whole song...
    Freud Jungsten: INteresting.
    Lucinda Lavender: he was not hearing the classical style and was trully flumoxed
    Lucinda Lavender: if you know what I mean
    Bruce Mowbray: Do you think he was identifying his mother with the music, somehow?
    Freud Jungsten: Needs some screamo then.... smiles
    Lucinda Lavender: I wonder...
    Lucinda Lavender: processing it was very slow for him...could hardly complete his thought
    Lucinda Lavender: the unknown
    Alfred Kelberry: hmm, interesting
    Bruce Mowbray: How early the pattern habits set in.
    Freud Jungsten: How old?
    Lucinda Lavender: three
    Freud Jungsten: OK.
    Bruce Mowbray: wow.
    Lucinda Lavender: very echoic in behavior
    Lucinda Lavender: very much repeats sounds
    Lucinda Lavender: was totally thrown and continued to ask for baby einstein
    Bruce Mowbray: I heard a neuro-biologist speak recently - about fetuses who listened to music in the womb. . . and could identify that music when they were born and were a year or two old.
    Lucinda Lavender: ah...interesting
    Freud Jungsten: Makes sense I think.
    Alfred Kelberry: bruce, identify how?
    Lucinda Lavender: I was hearing cello music myself...
    Bruce Mowbray: Echoic --- but all children are at the age of 3.
    Lucinda Lavender: this fellow has a huge vocabulary with the repeating
    Bruce Mowbray: to Al -- the children were tested with various pieces of music and moved toward that which the had heard in the womb -- 100% of the time.
    Lucinda Lavender: ah
    Bruce Mowbray listens for more from Luci.
    Lucinda Lavender: well...my mom was a cellist
    Lucinda Lavender: so heard that quite close I imagine
    Bruce Mowbray: Mmmm. . . so before birth you were hearing the cello.
    Alfred Kelberry: hmm
    Lucinda Lavender: yes
    Bruce Mowbray: wow.
    Bruce Mowbray: wonderful.
    Lucinda Lavender: what do you think you all heard?
    Bruce Mowbray is thinking about "vibrations."
    Lucinda Lavender: love thinking about this
    Bruce Mowbray: I think I heard the sounds of WW II, unfortunately.
    Lucinda Lavender: wow
    Bruce Mowbray: botrn in 1942.
    Lucinda Lavender: ah
    Bruce Mowbray: born*
    Bruce Mowbray: but -- would have preferred cello.
    Lucinda Lavender: some may have heard machines...
    Sartre Placebo: sry, now i am a bit less busy with yaku
    Bruce Mowbray: wb, Sartre!
    Alfred Kelberry: bruce, in europe?
    Lucinda Lavender: thanks Sartre
    Bruce Mowbray: Well, yes and no -- It is complicated. . .
    Bruce Mowbray: and actually, a bit personal. . .
    Alfred Kelberry: sorry, bruce
    Bruce Mowbray: But back to the child and his "suffering" at not hearing the music he was accustomed to hearing.
    Bruce Mowbray: Hello, Yaku!
    Sartre Placebo: just to grab the log
    Lucinda Lavender: .I should have gotten a conversation going with him after...
    Bruce Mowbray: Thanks for claiming the session, Yaku -- That means I wil be able to run into town when we're finished here.
    Lucinda Lavender: at snack I could have asked him more
    --BELL--
    Lucinda Lavender: sorry about that...
    Bruce Mowbray: (violating the bell, sorry) -- I would love to hear more about the child's preferences for the classical music.
    Lucinda Lavender: I think that it was an opportunity missed
    Bruce Mowbray: and how he explaines them.
    Bruce Mowbray: explains*
    Lucinda Lavender: he just seems to get great comfort from the bach and beethoven cd's
    Lucinda Lavender: and he gets up really close to the player
    Lucinda Lavender: and he stares at it
    Lucinda Lavender: seeming to take the sounds appart
    Bruce Mowbray: Hmmmm..... There are folks who would begin to think about reincarnation at this point.
    Lucinda Lavender: interesting...
    Lucinda Lavender: I think he has it memorized
    Bruce Mowbray: Probably so, yes.
    Lucinda Lavender: any sound bite would be recognizable to him
    Lucinda Lavender: that is how it looks
    Bruce Mowbray is thinking, "He might also have written that music himself. . . " (or is that too far off the wall?)
    Bruce Mowbray: With such music, time seems to collapse.
    Bruce Mowbray: There is no past or present - or "long ago" -- The music brings us all to the same point in time.
    Lucinda Lavender: I do not feel one way or the other about it...but would really want to watch more before saying...
    Bruce Mowbray: yes, indeed. I am merely speculating, of course.
    Lucinda Lavender: Some children have the ability to absorb information from certain sources...
    Bruce Mowbray: But it is interesting to watch the PBS fund-raising programs, where they feature music from the 50's and 60's and to watch how folks resonant with that.
    Lucinda Lavender: maybe this is an extreme left brain thing
    Bruce Mowbray: mmm. . . maybe, yes.
    Freud Jungsten: What do you mean resonate with that music?
    Bruce Mowbray: Well, I watch the audiences when the Beachboys play -- or one of the Bee Bop groups. . . .
    Lucinda Lavender: the classical music ...the other night a composer friend was saying she thought the classical period was less ocd
    Bruce Mowbray: and it is amazing how folks "resonate" with music they grew up with.
    Lucinda Lavender: more humanistic
    Lucinda Lavender: while the baroque is more obssessive
    Bruce Mowbray: Less "OCD" --- I have always considered Irish gigs and Scottish dances to be a bit OCD.
    Lucinda Lavender: :)))
    Freud Jungsten: Why is that?
    Bruce Mowbray: continuous repetition. . .
    Lucinda Lavender: one hates to sound judging...I don't like to but she is a composer and I respect her ideas
    Freud Jungsten: OH... sorry... not really familure with it.
    Bruce Mowbray: I LOVE Scotland -- don't misunderstand me -- But their music is a bit OCD, to me.
    Freud Jungsten: Woudl love to go there as well.
    Bruce Mowbray: It is an incredibly beautiful country -- the Highlands.
    Freud Jungsten: Using that definition, I don't think metal would be labled OCD.
    Bruce Mowbray: I was there in 2006.
    Bruce Mowbray lisens for more about "metal"
    Freud Jungsten: WEll compared to Oklahoma almost anywhere is beuatufil.
    Bruce Mowbray: ;-) AGREED!
    Freud Jungsten: I just like most of the metal genres.
    Bruce Mowbray: I spent four years in Dallas -- and drove back and forth to Iowa through OK -- No thanks!
    Lucinda Lavender: If someone sets their ear to grasping tempo which encourages movement...one can transcend through that movement...thinking of jigs etc
    Freud Jungsten: Tulsa is an OK place.
    Freud Jungsten: PUn intended.
    Bruce Mowbray: Mmmm.... "sets their ear to grasping tempo . . .encouraging movement". . . . fascinating.
    Lucinda Lavender: keeping up with the feet
    Freud Jungsten: Sort of like a mosh pit?
    Freud Jungsten: lol
    Lucinda Lavender: could be!!
    Bruce Mowbray: That would be a major feat for me (no pun intended, either).
    Bruce Mowbray: MOST PIT!
    Lucinda Lavender: oops I have to go...
    Bruce Mowbray: I heard that term for the first time two weeks ago.
    Freud Jungsten: Ciao
    Bruce Mowbray: On Times Sq. in New York.
    Freud Jungsten: Great fun to watch.
    Bruce Mowbray: Bye, Luci.
    Bruce Mowbray: Enmjoy your weekend!
    Sartre Placebo: bye luci
    Bruce Mowbray: Enjoy*
    Freud Jungsten: But at 4'9 and 84lbs I dont go in.
    Lucinda Lavender: Yes! for you all too:)
    Freud Jungsten: Would get borken in half.
    Freud Jungsten: do na da go hv i
    Lucinda Lavender: Nice to meet you freud!
    Bruce Mowbray: It was described to me by the young man that I took to New York. . .
    Bruce Mowbray: Is Most Pit something that is happening all over now?
    Bruce Mowbray: Mosh, sry.
    Sartre Placebo: the sessions around the slanguages conference are really interesting
    Freud Jungsten: MOst hard core and metal concerts get a pit going.
    Bruce Mowbray: I want to check them out, Sartre. Thanks.
    Bruce Mowbray: OK -- and this "pit" --- Folks are sort of battling with each other there?
    Bruce Mowbray: Hitting each other with elbows, etc.?
    Freud Jungsten: And twirling and ramming... .. smiles
    --BELL--
    Bruce Mowbray: mmmm. . . a sort of venting of - - - - - violent energies?
    Freud Jungsten: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moshing
    Bruce Mowbray: Sorry, folks. but I really do need to run into town and get a few things now. May you both be well and happy -- in whatever mosh pits you might find yourselves.
    Bruce Mowbray: Bye for now!
    Freud Jungsten: Ciao bella.

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