2010.10.16 19:00 - Tentacles of Awareness

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Eliza Madrigal, filling in for Pema traveling back from Stuttgart. The comments are by Eliza Madrigal, who sat alone for twenty minutes before Bleu arrived, freshly returned from an exciting salon adventure. Then, Steve arrived, still refusing to believe I was not in Germany last week. Hah..

    Apologies for using an incorrect term for octopus feet. They are *not* tentacles. I just like the phrase. :) 

    Bleu Oleander: hi Eliza
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Bleu :))
    Eliza Madrigal: You are particularly wild tonight...
    Bleu Oleander: ah yes
    Eliza Madrigal: wow
    Eliza Madrigal: Is this for Burning Man?
    Bleu Oleander: been out of town, just got back .... lots of changes
    Eliza Madrigal: Still stunning as ever
    Bleu Oleander: ty!
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, to California?
    Bleu Oleander: am wearing the universe :)


    Bleu Oleander: yes, took our group
    Bleu Oleander: had a great time
    Eliza Madrigal: zooms in and stands so you can see we're on the same page
    Bleu Oleander: wow great
    Eliza Madrigal: haha :)
    Bleu Oleander: :))
    Eliza Madrigal: oops... now stuck somehow
    Bleu Oleander: uh oh
    Eliza Madrigal: Did you see a speaker, or museums or?
    Bleu Oleander: we set up several conversations with people
    Bleu Oleander: a couple of days of intense subjects
    Eliza Madrigal: oh?
    Bleu Oleander: at UCSD, the Neurosciences Institute and others
    Eliza Madrigal: How interesting
    Eliza Madrigal: what was the highlight?
    Bleu Oleander: very cool conversations on animal consciousness, time, perception, fMRI
    Bleu Oleander: hmmm
    Bleu Oleander: hard to say ... all pretty cool
    Eliza Madrigal: Are there new ideas or findings on animal consciousness?


    Bleu Oleander: our presenter works with octopus
    Bleu Oleander: very intellegent creatures
    Eliza Madrigal: I'm fascinated by them...
    Eliza Madrigal: what did you find out?
    Eliza Madrigal: gosh your hair is great :))
    Bleu Oleander: they are capable of social learning
    Bleu Oleander: ty .... old inventory
    Eliza Madrigal: in groups?
    Eliza Madrigal: I never think of octopi (is that correct now?) as social creatures...
    Bleu Oleander: I hadn't either
    Eliza Madrigal: think of them holed up... sort of cave dwellers...
    Bleu Oleander: very cool though to see the videos
    Bleu Oleander: they were able to learn a task from each other
    Eliza Madrigal: I do remember hearing something particular about them, maybe having to do with children... hm
    Bleu Oleander: incredible, really
    Eliza Madrigal: What sort of a task does an octopus do? :))
    Bleu Oleander: they were able to open a box to get food
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh!
    Eliza Madrigal: problem solving...
    Bleu Oleander: amazing
    Eliza Madrigal: Okay... coming clean. I just googled to see that the octopus has three hearts!
    Bleu Oleander: also able to respond to videos
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, like dolphins are too... that's really surprising
    Bleu Oleander: he did motion-capture videos of prey
    Bleu Oleander: and the octopus was able to recognize the prey
    Bleu Oleander: experimented with different speeds of the videos too

    Eliza Madrigal: so that suggests they were learning vicariously... not through some kind of tangible sense
    Bleu Oleander: to see just how much the octopus could recognize
    Eliza Madrigal imagines playing the cup game with an octopus ...
    Bleu Oleander: ha!
    Eliza Madrigal smiles
    Bleu Oleander: also eat lots of great fish
    Bleu Oleander: miss that in AZ

    Bleu Oleander: I love the ocean
    Bleu Oleander: just being there is wonderful
    Eliza Madrigal: yes, good thing that you return to refresh...
    Eliza Madrigal: like a mermaid :)
    Bleu Oleander: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: the ocean is intrinsically healing I think...

    Bleu Oleander: so what's been happening here?
    Bleu Oleander: hey steve
    Eliza Madrigal: even just the sound...
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Steve :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Hm... well, Kira and Village Hall are moved!
    stevenaia Michinaga: hi Bleu and ELiza, you home ELiza?
    Bleu Oleander: yes, I saw that!
    Bleu Oleander: Storm has been busy
    Eliza Madrigal: Yes, have been home Steve :))
    stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Bleu has just returned from Cali though

    stevenaia Michinaga: Bleu, I wnated to thank you for your contribution to my Puzzle art
    Bleu Oleander: oh?
    stevenaia Michinaga: it just hit me the other day looking at your image
    stevenaia Michinaga: so I posted one I tok
    stevenaia Michinaga: inspired by you
    Eliza Madrigal: Great, Steve :))
    Bleu Oleander: oh great .... I'll have to check it out
    Eliza Madrigal: I was thinking about the cube today actually... how fantastic it felt to fly around in there and see combinations of avatar images....


    Bleu Oleander: :)
    Bleu Oleander: I have to do something new for my plot
    Eliza Madrigal: Hm, and what else...
    Eliza Madrigal: Well, the retreat in Germany has finished
    Eliza Madrigal: and Wol posted reflections. There will be a theme session next Saturday
    Bleu Oleander: looking forward to that!
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes
    Bleu Oleander: how was the time session this week?
    Eliza Madrigal stands back so Bleu's wheels have room to turn
    Eliza Madrigal: I enjoyed it... Missed you
    Eliza Madrigal: Fef is posting...
    Bleu Oleander: i didn't get a chance to post a report either

    Eliza Madrigal: yes I know... do you have thoughts on the last chapter?
    Eliza Madrigal: I'd love to hear
    Eliza Madrigal: "the fork in the road"
    Eliza Madrigal: You are reading too Steve right?
    Bleu Oleander: too many new thoughts crowding my brain at the moment :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: every now and then I take a moment and read through them
    Eliza Madrigal: wheels within wheels
    stevenaia Michinaga: makes for a very thoughtful day when I do sice I take a few sessions at a time
    Eliza Madrigal: It seems an important chapter... we'll see how it unfolds in the group I guess...
    Bleu Oleander: will re-read it this week
    Bleu Oleander: after my head clears :)
    Eliza Madrigal: yes, glad to have you home :) It does sound like a full week...

    Eliza Madrigal: maybe this week you'll post an octopus report
    stevenaia Michinaga: octopus report?
    Eliza Madrigal: hehe... tentacles of awareness
    Bleu Oleander: hey, that's a good idea
    Bleu Oleander: nice
    Eliza Madrigal: earlier we discussed interesting facts about octopi
    Eliza Madrigal: they are cephalopods... which means "head with feet"
    Bleu Oleander: lots of feet
    Eliza Madrigal: hard to get more interesting than that...
    Eliza Madrigal: except maybe the platypus...
    Eliza Madrigal: which is, among other things, poisonous!
    Eliza Madrigal: well, venomous anyway

    Eliza Madrigal: I think I'm getting loopy.... quite sleepy actually but am glad to see you Bleu and Steve
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: Jet Lag?
    Eliza Madrigal: I didn't go anywhere Steve! haha... well. last weekend to ny but thats it
    Eliza Madrigal: hahahha

    stevenaia Michinaga: right, loopy must be contagious
    Eliza Madrigal giggles. for sure
    stevenaia Michinaga: looks at blond hair
    Bleu Oleander: feels loopy too


    Eliza Madrigal: :))
    stevenaia Michinaga: see you tomarrow, perhaps
    Eliza Madrigal: Night guys , Hugs
    Bleu Oleander: nite steve
    Bleu Oleander: should go too
    Bleu Oleander: take care Eliza .... great to catch up!

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