2010.10.17 01:00 - Feeling silence in all that chaos

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    Wol Euler was guardian and commenter for this session.


    Qt Core: hi Wol
    Wol Euler: hello qt
    Wol Euler: how are you today?
    Qt Core: quite good, and you, after the retreat ?
    Wol Euler: so far, so good :)
    Wol Euler: keeping busy, which may help
    Qt Core: there should be some study about PRS post retreat stress ;-)
    Wol Euler: I hadn't thought about it before, but it is especially sad for the coordinator when a retreat ends
    Wol Euler: because you stay still and the others go away from you
    Wol Euler: I had dinner with Eos and Pema on friday night, and saw Pema to the train yesterday morning
    Qt Core: and all the thought about what you wanted it to be and what it was (even if it went well)
    Wol Euler nods.
    Wol Euler: it's over very suddenly and there is nothing to fill the space, not even travel
    Qt Core: maybe, if you didn't take the pc with you you may have had a bunch of email/im to read as to come back online
    Qt Core: ;-)
    Wol Euler grins
    Wol Euler: that would have been an idea
    Qt Core: not at the scale of yours but i had a couple problems with my internet connection lately... i have whitdrawal symptoms in less than half a day, i would have taken my pc with me too ;-)
    Wol Euler: heheheh
    Wol Euler: I overdid that though, I found myself online for several hours during hte silent day.
    Wol Euler: OK, I was not using my mouth or ears, but I was definitely communicating
    Qt Core: not so silent then...
    Wol Euler: not at all
    Pondering on communication and silence.
    Qt Core: thinking about it, on most days i communicate much more with a keyboard than with my mouth
    Wol Euler: definitely.
    Wol Euler: being silent mouthwise is not that unusual for me, actually
    Qt Core: i may have to start saying i'm comunicative instead of talkative ;-)
    Wol Euler: :)
    Qt Core: about silence, i had a weird (nice ?) experience a few days ago
    Wol Euler listens
    Qt Core: i was driving to work, listening one of my favorite groups on cd (quite energetic and loud) so there was the usual traffic/car noises and the music and i suddently said (yes, i talk to myself): what a nice silence
    Wol Euler: heh
    Qt Core: and the feeling lasted a couple seconds after that i was wondering
    Qt Core: i was wondering how i could feel silence in that chaos ;-)
    Wol Euler nods.
    Wol Euler: but you did?
    Qt Core: yes, for a couple seconds, felt silence even if i was aware of the sounds
    Wol Euler: interesting.
    Wol Euler: what does "silence" mean, then? that you were at ease?
    Qt Core: maybe, was thinking peace could be another definition
    Wol Euler: that the noise suddenly stopped disturbing you
    Qt Core: all in all the well known road to work and some nice music is quite a relaxing settings for me... even if i don't really like to drive
    Qt Core: i'm quite good at hearing but not be disturbed by sounds... i have an ironsmith next door ;-)
    Wol Euler: O.O
    Wol Euler: yeh, that would be good training
    Qt Core: it's even worse, i'm distracted by real silence ;-)
    Wol Euler grins.
    Qt Core: you know, trying to study and then listening a far sounds of one person walking on the street outside and nothing else
    Wol Euler nods.
    Retreats and silence, and an interruption.
    Qt Core: thinking about the silence day in retreats, you are silent, but the rest of the workd isn't
    Wol Euler nods.
    Wol Euler: and you become very aware of that
    Wol Euler: have you ever done a silent day like this?
    Qt Core: no
    Qt Core: and you probably end up trying to map the noise you listen
    Qt Core: hi zon
    Zon Quar: hi
    Wol Euler: hello zon
    Zon Quar: can u help me
    Zon Quar: i got a note from pemas writing on time
    Qt Core: ask, we'll try
    Wol Euler: okay
    Zon Quar: i lost it
    Wol Euler: ah
    Zon Quar: cant find it on net
    Wol Euler: was it a note here inworld, or via e-mail?
    Zon Quar: it was a link
    Zon Quar: to webpage
    Zon Quar: a writing underway
    Qt Core: have you visited it at least once ?
    Zon Quar: yes
    Qt Core: can't you find it in history ?
    Zon Quar: no
    Zon Quar: it was as an opened page long time
    Zon Quar: so my history doesnt find it
    Zon Quar: it automaticly opened on my browswer, i got it from someone here, but dont remeber from whom
    Qt Core: (speaking of silence i broke 3 on 3 today, yeah to me!)
    Wol Euler: I'm looking in my e-mail history
    Zon Quar: it was such a good text
    Zon crashed while I was searching.
    Wol Euler: hmm, can't find it. But I see Zon has left us anyway.
    Qt Core: it seems Zon has a very bad connections today, it seems he already crashed 4 timesin the last half an hour
    Qt Core: i once found on the web a couple mp3 file full of silence (with a bell in the end) at the time i laughed quite a lot
    Wol Euler: yep :)
    Wol Euler: a very good idea though!
    Wol Euler: much simpler than programming a timer with a sound
    Qt Core: i lauighed thinking about "hearing" those with a pc, with all the fan and ambient noise
    Qt Core: with a mp3 player and a pair of earbuds...
    Wol Euler: hmm, that's true. I assumed that it was a silent computer like my Macs are :-P
    Qt Core: they were suppesed to be used to time meditations
    Qt Core: but putting them on a pc mp3 player and on repeat may be good for the 15 min bell too
    Wol Euler: heh
    Wol Euler: um, sorry, but I have to leave punctually at 11 for a birthday party.
    Wol Euler: enjoy the day, qt.
    Qt Core: myself too (lunch cooking)
    Wol Euler: bye!
    Qt Core: have fun
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