2010.10.26 13:00 - Angels what are they?

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Tarmel Udimo. The comments are by Tarmel Udimo.

    Bleu Oleander: hi Tarmel :)
    Tarmel Udimo: hey bleu
    Bleu Oleander: how are you?
    Tarmel Udimo: excellent
    Tarmel Udimo: checking out the new you outfit
    Bleu Oleander: feeling "dark" today :)
    Tarmel Udimo: grins
    Tarmel Udimo: hopefully a visual and not an emotional state?
    Bleu Oleander: yes :)
    Bleu Oleander: are you the guardian today?
    Tarmel Udimo: I think everyone is off at the dreamworkshop
    Bleu Oleander: oh right
    Tarmel Udimo: yes I took this slot but I might have to change
    Tarmel Udimo: the dream workshop are usally very good
    Bleu Oleander: yes, I forgot it was today
    Tarmel Udimo: like what you did with Bleu beach
    Tarmel Udimo: :)
    Bleu Oleander: ty!
    Tarmel Udimo: are you going to move closer to the water?
    Fael Illyar: Hello :)
    Bleu Oleander: I put my house on the hill
    Tarmel Udimo: hey its Fael
    Bleu Oleander: hey Fael
    Tarmel Udimo: oh haven't seen that yet
    Tarmel Udimo: how have you been fael?
    Fael Illyar: I've been good :)
    Fael Illyar: how have you been Tarmel?
    Bleu Oleander: are you liking where your new store is Fael?
    Tarmel Udimo: well had a long break from SL and now I am back:)
    Fael Illyar: yes, I do want to redo it a bit but my time's pretty much spent.
    Tarmel Udimo: like the new look
    Fael Illyar smiles.
    Fael Illyar: thank you
    Tarmel Udimo: so do we have a topic?
    Bleu Oleander: hmmm
    Bleu Oleander: what have you missed most about PaB and SL?
    Bleu Oleander: have your thoughts about topics changed since you were last here?
    Tarmel Udimo: sorry IM from Wol I've been trying to change my Tier status:)
    Tarmel Udimo: so I don't have to pay for land I don't have...
    Bleu Oleander: good idea
    Tarmel Udimo: I missed the people but not the technology:)
    Bleu Oleander: :)
    Fael Illyar: yes, the tech still needs improving :D
    Tarmel Udimo: I mean I love the virtual world aspect but there is also something a bit clumsy about it
    Tarmel Udimo: of course PAB has so much to offer that it makes up for it
    Bleu Oleander: yes!
    Fael Illyar smiles 'Lots of other things around SL too.'
    Bleu Oleander: did you take a look at the time sessions that Pema is doing?
    Tarmel Udimo: not yet... I guess I need to explore more
    Bleu Oleander: it's a little early for me, but usually a good conversation
    Tarmel Udimo: what other things do you both do in SL or should that be a private conversation:)
    Fael Illyar: it's pretty late for me :)
    Bleu Oleander: I still do salons with artisits and various others
    Bleu Oleander: like to create art
    Tarmel Udimo: nods
    Tarmel Udimo: and how's the shop going fael?
    Bleu Oleander: but have been busy in FL
    Tarmel Udimo: RL?
    Fael Illyar: I haven't done much with it for well over a year. I did decide to move it last week :)
    Bleu Oleander: sry yes RL
    Tarmel Udimo: its in the Village or close to
    Bleu Oleander: do you make all the things in your shop?
    Fael Illyar: I've made most things in what I sell. The pillows in the pose set are an exception.
    Bleu Oleander: nice
    Tarmel Udimo: my tatoos are one of the first things fael maed - finally wearing mine - tks fael:)
    Fael Illyar smiles.
    Fael Illyar: You're welcome :)
    Bleu Oleander: :)
    Fael Illyar: the first thing I made was wings
    Tarmel Udimo: that's right
    Tarmel Udimo: still wear those?
    Fael Illyar: these :)
    Tarmel Udimo: yes:)
    Fael Illyar: it's getting pretty rare that I wear these. I tend to prefer my newest wings lately.
    Fael Illyar: these
    Fael Illyar: Hello Zon :)
    Bleu Oleander: hi Zon
    Tarmel Udimo: beautiful!
    Tarmel Udimo: hello Zon
    Bleu Oleander: really nice Fael
    Fael Illyar: thank you :)
    Zon Kwan: heya
    Tarmel Udimo: hi..
    Tarmel Udimo: have you been here before Zon?
    Zon Kwan: i have
    Tarmel Udimo: very good
    Tarmel Udimo: we were talking about wings:0
    Tarmel Udimo: angel wings I beleive
    Zon Kwan: i see fael has a pair
    Fael Illyar: just showing off what I've made :D
    Zon Kwan: very stilish
    Fael Illyar: thank you :)
    Bleu Oleander: I like that they change color :)
    Tarmel Udimo: where did the first idea of angels come from?
    Fael Illyar: I don't think anyone mentioned angels before you did :)
    Zon Kwan: perhaps someone saw them
    Tarmel Udimo: grins:)
    Tarmel Udimo: I mean in the world?
    Tarmel Udimo: just christian or before?
    Zon Kwan: before
    Tarmel Udimo: yes?
    Zon Kwan: long before
    Zon Kwan: whne people could see things
    Zon Kwan: they cant today
    Zon Kwan: sry.,,must go,..bye
    Tarmel Udimo: hummm
    Tarmel Udimo: and if this the case what were they I wonder or what were people 'seeing'?
    Tarmel Udimo: too bad Zon left i would have liked to know
    Tarmel Udimo: :)
    Bleu Oleander: people have always seen things that they didn't have explainations for ... perhaps that is what he meant
    Tarmel Udimo: perhaps...;0
    Tarmel Udimo: :)
    Tarmel Udimo: yes but the concept of angel is quite specific but I suppose that could be gods, goddess..
    Fael Illyar: Hi aphrodite :)
    Bleu Oleander: hi Aph
    Tarmel Udimo: hi there
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hi all
    Aphrodite Macbain: Is that really you Bleu
    Bleu Oleander: yes:)
    Aphrodite Macbain: srious disguise
    Aphrodite Macbain: kinda scary in fact
    Fael Illyar: Hi Bert, Bruce :)
    Bleu Oleander: disguise in sl is difficult with your name always over you
    Bertram Jacobus: hy everybody :-)
    Bleu Oleander: hi Bert, Bruce
    Bleu Oleander: scary?
    Aphrodite Macbain: Just heard from Bruce. There is a major storm approaching and he may be knocked out
    Bleu Oleander: oh no
    Tarmel Udimo: hi bertram hi bruce
    Aphrodite Macbain: Oh Bruce is here! great. He's still connected :-)
    Bruce Mowbray: No, Aph (hello everyone) -- The storm went through over an hour ago -- tornado north of where I am - but all is fine now -- no threat of being knocked off-line now.
    Aphrodite Macbain: How's the storm Bruce?
    Bertram Jacobus: scary ? me ? if so : not in that case : was rezzing, thinking ... ;-)
    Aphrodite Macbain: oh great. was a little worrie
    Bruce Mowbray: The storm is now in Pennsylvania.... moving fast!
    Tarmel Udimo: gosh
    Bruce Mowbray: Thanks for your concerns, though.
    Bruce Mowbray: Do we have a topic?
    Tarmel Udimo: yes
    Bruce Mowbray listens intently.
    Tarmel Udimo: how far back does the concept of angels go?
    Tarmel Udimo: and if so how were they perceived
    Fael Illyar: sixth sense?
    Bertram Jacobus: hey barca - long time not seen ! :-)
    Bruce Mowbray: [speaking of angels, I think Barca will be arr --- there he is!]
    Barcalona Rhapsody: hi all
    Bruce Mowbray: Hi, Barca -- Great to see you again.
    Fael Illyar: hello barcalona :)
    Bleu Oleander: hi Barca
    Aphrodite Macbain: hi barc
    Tarmel Udimo: hi
    Bruce Mowbray: We're talking about angels.
    Barcalona Rhapsody: ok
    Aphrodite Macbain: i always felt I must ahve a guardian angel
    Tarmel Udimo: yes?
    Barcalona Rhapsody: me too
    Bruce Mowbray: same here, Aph.
    Tarmel Udimo: :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: a being that kept an eye out for m
    Bertram Jacobus: hello bea ...
    Tarmel Udimo: so an energy force outside ourselves that looks after us/
    Fael Illyar: oh interesting, the origin of the word Angel appears to be messenger.
    Aphrodite Macbain: messenger from god -
    Fael Illyar: Greek word angelos means messenger, Hebrew word Malakh is also messenger.
    Fael Illyar: Persian word angaros is also similar meaning courier
    Aphrodite Macbain: gabriel was god's messenger to Mary
    Bleu Oleander: a conduit to the spirit world?
    Aphrodite Macbain: an intermediary between god and man
    Tarmel Udimo: and was it assumed the messenger was from 'god'
    Bertram Jacobus: if you like - sit a bit with us bea - we are talking about angels at the moment ... ;-)
    Aphrodite Macbain: but the deveil was once an angel
    Barcalona Rhapsody: wow
    Aphrodite Macbain: a fallen one
    Bruce Mowbray: ooops -- Didn't realize we were in a 90-sec drop, there.
    Aphrodite Macbain: went by vrey quickly didn't it?
    Bruce Mowbray: Lucifer = "light bearer"
    Tarmel Udimo: yes I guess
    Aphrodite Macbain: right. once he was a nice guy
    Tarmel Udimo: what I was asking fael from the definition
    Bruce Mowbray: one of my buddies, actually.
    Tarmel Udimo: was does it mention god?
    Bruce Mowbray: Welcome, Bea.
    Tarmel Udimo: hi bea
    Barcalona Rhapsody: hi bea
    Bertram Jacobus: hi ogrish - take a seat with us if you like :-)
    Bea Frimon: witam
    Bruce Mowbray: Welcome, Ogrish.
    Aphrodite Macbain: new friends!
    Tarmel Udimo: welcome
    Ogrish Nagy: hi all
    Barcalona Rhapsody: hi ogrish
    Bleu Oleander: hi Ogrish, Bea
    Bertram Jacobus: the talks here are recorded and put on a wiki site - is that okay for you bea and ogrish ?
    Fael Illyar: Hello bea, Ogrish :)
    Ogrish Nagy: no way, im out :DDD
    Ogrish Nagy: bye all :P
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bye
    Aphrodite Macbain: OK Bye!
    Bruce Mowbray: Bye, Ogrish.
    Tarmel Udimo: bye
    Bruce Mowbray: Bye, Bea.
    Barcalona Rhapsody: bye og
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bye
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bye! bea
    Bea Frimon: Bye
    Barcalona Rhapsody: bye beatrix
    Aphrodite Macbain: come and visit again sometime
    Bertram Jacobus: bah - i have a hughe chat lag !
    Aphrodite Macbain: bah humbug
    Bea Frimon: z miłą chęcią:)
    Bruce Mowbray: so . . . . If I get a "bright idea" does that mean an angel has just visited me?
    Aphrodite Macbain: love what Bea
    Tarmel Udimo: hehehehe
    Barcalona Rhapsody: maybe
    Bruce Mowbray: I mean, a REALLY BRIGHT idea, of course.
    Barcalona Rhapsody: and a bad idea from a devil ?
    Tarmel Udimo: sure or could just another aspect of one'self
    Aphrodite Macbain: define really bright
    Barcalona Rhapsody: and define good and bad
    Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
    Bruce Mowbray: "The devil made me do it. . . " (to quote a TV evangelist.
    Tarmel Udimo: I think its just that we keep most of our senses pretty much shut down
    Barcalona Rhapsody: ok
    Aphrodite Macbain: while you're at it define idea
    Barcalona Rhapsody: wow
    Tarmel Udimo: but sometimes when we open up a little other ideas can come in
    Barcalona Rhapsody: thats a good one
    Bruce Mowbray hopes Bert will dance. . .
    Aphrodite Macbain: best thing about keeping un stuck
    Bruce Mowbray: nope. . .
    Barcalona Rhapsody: internet is for sharing ideas
    Aphrodite Macbain: nice bert
    Bruce Mowbray: Hello, Satia.
    Bertram Jacobus: no - gave a tp sry ;-)
    Barcalona Rhapsody: hi satia
    Aphrodite Macbain: oh it's Satia!
    Fael Illyar: Hello Satia :)
    Tarmel Udimo: hello
    Barcalona Rhapsody: hi sati
    Satia Ruby: HEL-LOOOOO =)
    Satia Ruby: all :D
    Bertram Jacobus: sit with us if you like satia ? :-)
    Satia Ruby: gimme a moment to rezz :D
    Aphrodite Macbain: do you want a cookie?
    Satia Ruby: yeeeeees
    Bertram Jacobus: sure ... okay ... :-)
    Aphrodite Macbain: I can give you a cupcake - will that do?
    Barcalona Rhapsody: i hada session about ethics last 2 hours in RL
    Fael Illyar: Well, I'd best start preparing for bed. Good night everyone :)
    Bruce Mowbray: wow -- internet ethics, Barca?
    Bruce Mowbray: Good night, Fael.
    Bertram Jacobus: good nite fael ! *wave* ...
    Barcalona Rhapsody: in a baptist environment
    Tarmel Udimo: night fael
    Bruce Mowbray: ok. . . . How did it go?
    Barcalona Rhapsody: no baptist community ethics
    Tarmel Udimo: can you say more
    Barcalona Rhapsody: very orthodox
    Bruce Mowbray listens for more.
    Barcalona Rhapsody: but i thought u were baptist too
    Bruce Mowbray: Me? Nope.
    Barcalona Rhapsody: but u are other movement
    Bruce Mowbray: I sit with Quakers. . . that's all.
    Barcalona Rhapsody: quaker s ?
    Barcalona Rhapsody: ok
    Satia Ruby: 13:58] Aphrodite Macbain gave you Cherry Cupcake. (thanks alot ) :D
    Bertram Jacobus: :-))
    Tarmel Udimo: so I am curious
    Bruce Mowbray: [here comes Cal]
    Barcalona Rhapsody: its too much too say
    Aphrodite Macbain: I'm afraid I ahve to go to a meeting.
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bye
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bye!
    Tarmel Udimo: how can an orthdox community not have any ethics
    Barcalona Rhapsody: bye aph
    Tarmel Udimo: bye
    Bruce Mowbray: or. . . . Cal's going to the same meeting that I need to go to --- and Aph, too.
    Bertram Jacobus: okay - bye aph
    Barcalona Rhapsody: ok
    Tarmel Udimo: bye
    Barcalona Rhapsody: bye
    Bruce Mowbray: Byeeeee. . . . I'm sorry I can't stay and hear more about this. (darn it!)
    Bleu Oleander: bye all :)
    Barcalona Rhapsody: letting go
    Bertram Jacobus: [bye to all leaving beings] ;o)
    Tarmel Udimo: yes I have to go too but I have claimed the chat and will post the log
    Satia Ruby: do i need a shower or why are all gone?
    Tarmel Udimo: no satia the time is up for me, please stay and chat
    Tarmel Udimo: I will read the log later
    Barcalona Rhapsody: its time for them to go
    Satia Ruby: okay :)
    Tarmel Udimo: bye for now all
    Tarmel Udimo: nice to see you again bertram
    Barcalona Rhapsody: u smell heavenly sat
    Barcalona Rhapsody: i adore it
    Bertram Jacobus: hehe *smile* ...
    Satia Ruby: lmao
    Barcalona Rhapsody: mmmm
    Barcalona Rhapsody: how was your day bert and sat ?
    Satia Ruby: hm
    Bertram Jacobus: mine was okay - ty - how was yours ?
    Satia Ruby: hard
    Satia Ruby: a lot of work
    Barcalona Rhapsody: me too
    Barcalona Rhapsody: hard days work
    Barcalona Rhapsody: a hard days night
    Barcalona Rhapsody: its been a
    Barcalona Rhapsody: and i ve been working like a dog
    Bertram Jacobus: i finally have some days off, to relaxx a bit - was urgently needed ... am happy that i have them now ... thankful ...
    Barcalona Rhapsody: but i feel fine
    Barcalona Rhapsody: i had last week holiday
    Bertram Jacobus: that should not be : work like a dog ... hm
    Satia Ruby: my last free days are 9 weeks ago :D
    Barcalona Rhapsody: oh
    Satia Ruby: i´m not sure if i have holidays again this year :S
    Barcalona Rhapsody: so u need some days off
    Barcalona Rhapsody: so u have to take some rest
    Barcalona Rhapsody: and i will so too
    Barcalona Rhapsody: i think i go to bed now
    Satia Ruby: i have to work 2 more hours
    Barcalona Rhapsody: bye all
    Barcalona Rhapsody: bye bert and sat
    Bertram Jacobus: good nite barca
    Barcalona Rhapsody: thnx
    Satia Ruby: good night
    Bertram Jacobus: boah ich hab dauernd chat lag grad

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