2010.10.31 08:00 - Guardian Session: Reaching Deep, Branching Out, and Growing Apples

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    This week's guardian session was about Logging and Re'tree'ts. Comments were added by Eliza who was delayed by a heavy sleep but thanks Agatha, for the notecard with the first half of the meeting!  
     
    Present were : Adams Rubble : Agatha Macbeth : Aphrodite Macbain : Bleu Oleander : Bruce Mowbray : Eliza Madrigal : Eos Amaterasu : Maxine Walden : Riddle Sideways : Yakuzza Lethecus
     
    Greetings...
     
    [07:58] Agatha Macbeth: Hi fellow Scorpio :)
    [07:59] Aphrodite Macbain: Hey Agatha! When's your birthday?
    [07:59] Agatha Macbeth: It *was* Friday :)
    [07:59] Aphrodite Macbain: Oh! The SAme day!!
    [07:59] Agatha Macbeth nods
    [08:00] Aphrodite Macbain: proabably not the same year
    [08:00] Agatha Macbeth: Same birthday, same initials
    [08:00] Agatha Macbeth: No, unlikely ;-)
    [08:00] Aphrodite Macbain: oooooooh
    [08:00] Aphrodite Macbain: 1944
    [08:00] Agatha Macbeth: Good lord
    [08:00] Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
    [08:00] Agatha Macbeth: 1962 me
    [08:00] Aphrodite Macbain: I'm old as dirt - that's Bruce's expression
    [08:01] Agatha Macbeth: He's one to talk!
    [08:01] Aphrodite Macbain: Yes, happily he's even older than I am!
    [08:01] Agatha Macbeth grins
    [08:01] Aphrodite Macbain: Always nice to have someone ahead of you
    [08:01] Agatha Macbeth: 'Your age is just a number' as they say
    [08:02] Aphrodite Macbain: yes. tho parts of me are beginning to wear out I notice
    [08:02] Agatha Macbeth: Mm, I notice that too lately :(
    [08:02] Aphrodite Macbain: It was harder for me to travel this time.
    [08:02] Aphrodite Macbain: I got tireder.
    [08:02] Aphrodite Macbain: faster
    [08:02] Agatha Macbeth: Well, you still get about more than I do :p
    [08:03] Aphrodite Macbain: I used to travel alot. All through C and S America,
    [08:03] Agatha Macbeth: Hi Bleu
    [08:03] Agatha Macbeth: Whoa
    [08:03] Bleu Oleander: BOO
    [08:03] Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Bleu Happy Halloween!
    [08:03] Aphrodite Macbain: Boo
    [08:03] Agatha Macbeth: Eek!
    [08:04] Aphrodite Macbain: to you tooo
    [08:04] D. The Songbird [NT]: Rear Door: Door is locked. Riddle Sideways is at the door.
    [08:04] Bleu Oleander: hi Aph, Agatha
    [08:04] Agatha Macbeth: Ooh, nice Bleu
    [08:05] Aphrodite Macbain: Hello Riddle
    [08:05] Agatha Macbeth: Riddle is at the wrong door
    [08:05] Bleu Oleander: hi Riddle
    [08:05] Agatha Macbeth: Hiya
    [08:05] Riddle Sideways: halllloooo
    [08:05] *PMoon-JackO Lantern Ballon-an: Touched.
    [08:05] Riddle Sideways: yes, that door does not open
    [08:05] Aphrodite Macbain: Hallllooooo eeeen
    [08:05] Riddle Sideways: nice door bell tho
    [08:05] Bleu Oleander: hi Tree
    [08:05] Aphrodite Macbain: Morning Bruce. What are you wearing?
    [08:05] Agatha Macbeth: Good grief Bruce
    [08:05] Bruce Mowbray: Hi, everyone --
    [08:06] Aphrodite Macbain: Booo
    [08:06] Bruce Mowbray looks to find a seat where he's not blocking anyone's view.
    [08:06] Agatha Macbeth: You're looking very horticulturalSnapshot_002.jpgrticultural
    [08:06] Aphrodite Macbain: sit at the opposite end
    [08:06] Agatha Macbeth: Hello Yaku
    [08:06] Bleu Oleander: hi Yaku
    [08:06] Riddle Sideways: Hi Yak
    [08:06] Yakuzza Lethecus: hi all
    [08:06] Aphrodite Macbain: hello Maxine and Yaky
    [08:06] Agatha Macbeth: Do we get apples?
    [08:06] Riddle Sideways: Hi Maxine
    [08:06] Aphrodite Macbain: Yaku
    [08:06] Bleu Oleander: hi Maxine
    [08:07] Agatha Macbeth: Hello Max
    [08:07] Maxine Walden: hi, everyone
    [08:07] Bruce Mowbray: no apples, but you get lots of shade and oxygen.
    [08:07] Aphrodite Macbain: wish I could see you Bruce. Right now you have a jagged grey cloud over your heard
    [08:07] Agatha Macbeth: I'll settle for that, then
    [08:07] Aphrodite Macbain: are you a tree?
    [08:07] Bruce Mowbray: the cloud will pass, trust me.
    [08:07] Aphrodite Macbain: love it
    [08:08] Agatha Macbeth: Any birds in there?
    [08:08] Maxine Walden: :)
    [08:08] Bleu Oleander: just blub
    [08:08] Agatha Macbeth: A flying fish
    [08:08] Bruce Mowbray: Blub's scaring away the birds, unfortunately.
    [08:08] Riddle Sideways: I think I shall never see a Bruce as lovely as a tree
    [08:08] Aphrodite Macbain: bird brain?
    [08:08] Agatha Macbeth: Aww
    [08:08] Aphrodite Macbain grins at riddle
    [08:08] Riddle Sideways: is that how the poem goes?
    [08:09] Bruce Mowbray: I like your version of the poem,
    [08:09] Aphrodite Macbain: somewhat
     
    Some recalls of 'anger' session that just happened...

    [08:09] Baeric Constantine shouts: mmmm that is altering the esence of positive and negative to a conceptual construct of good and bad on the social acceptability scale
    [08:09] Aphrodite Macbain: hello Eos
    [08:09] Agatha Macbeth: It is?
    [08:09] Riddle Sideways: will need to keep my black cat in the house tonight
    [08:09] Bleu Oleander: hi Eos
    [08:09] Bruce Mowbray: Hi, Eos.
    [08:09] Agatha Macbeth: Hi Eos
    [08:09] Aphrodite Macbain: what is Baeric talking about?
    [08:09] Eos Amaterasu: HI!
    [08:10] Agatha Macbeth: Good question
    [08:10] Bleu Oleander: trick or tree Bruce
    [08:10] Agatha Macbeth: Yaku's the philosopher: ask him
    [08:10] Bruce Mowbray wonders if he's the poet or the poem.
    [08:11] Riddle Sideways: Baeric is at Adams' session
    [08:11] Yakuzza Lethecus: hehe, i should come back with my placebo account :)
    [08:11] Riddle Sideways: seems a 'shout' can come to here
    [08:11] Aphrodite Macbain wonders how everyone can be so brilliant while she's just waking up
    [08:11] Agatha Macbeth nods
    [08:11] Bleu Oleander: what is Adam's session?
    [08:11] Eos Amaterasu wonders what a placebo account would be
    [08:11] Agatha Macbeth: It's the effect Adams has on people :p
    [08:11] Eos Amaterasu: there's more brilliance in the east
    [08:11] Bruce Mowbray hopes no one is angry about Adams' session this morning (that is supposed to be a joke).
    [08:11] Maxine Walden: seems that confusion reigns here today, maybe part of Halloween
    [08:11] Riddle Sideways: meant 0700 PaB
    [08:11] Aphrodite Macbain wonders what the session was about
    [08:12] Eos Amaterasu: europe is out of time joint
    [08:12] Bruce Mowbray: yes, THAT session, Riddle. I enjoyed our chat.
    [08:12] Riddle Sideways: session was about Anger
    [08:12] Aphrodite Macbain: ah
    [08:12] Agatha Macbeth: Ah, that accounts for it
    [08:12] Aphrodite Macbain: how annoying
    [08:12] Agatha Macbeth: :)
    [08:12] Bruce Mowbray: yeppers. . . and Freud started us off with her "annoying woman" label.
    [08:13] Riddle Sideways: so refreshing to hear a tree tell about anger
    [08:13] Agatha Macbeth: She's good at that...
    [08:13] Bruce Mowbray: It was a good dialogue -- many different [erspectives offered.
    [08:13] Bruce Mowbray: perspectives*
    [08:13] Aphrodite Macbain: goood at what exactly?
    [08:13] Agatha Macbeth: Being Freud :)
    [08:13] Aphrodite Macbain: being annoying?
    [08:13] Aphrodite Macbain: right
    [08:14] Eos Amaterasu: this is like West Wing dialogue

    [08:14] Maxine Walden: may I ask a mundane question?
     
    [08:14] Aphrodite Macbain: Do we have anything to discuss this morning?
     
    [08:14] Bruce Mowbray a bit uncomfortable talking about an avi who is not present -- suggests that those interested read the chat-log when it's posted.
    [08:14] Aphrodite Macbain grins at eos
    [08:14] Bruce Mowbray: yes, on to the meeting.
    [08:14] Eos Amaterasu: which chat log
     
     
    [08:14] Bleu Oleander: the new Art of Being project?
     
    [08:14] Aphrodite Macbain: yes.
    [08:14] Riddle Sideways: yes, Maxine
    [08:14] Bleu Oleander: are you all working on your AV's for that?
    [08:15] Bleu Oleander: :)
    [08:15] Bleu Oleander: Aphrodite did a great one
    [08:15] Eos Amaterasu is at the preconceptual stage of re-avatarizing himself
    [08:15] Bleu Oleander: great
    [08:15] Agatha Macbeth: I'm still not sure what it's about
    [08:15] Eos Amaterasu: ah!
    [08:15] Aphrodite Macbain: shall I model mine?
    [08:15] Bruce Mowbray: I'm modeling mine right now.
     
    [08:16] Riddle Sideways: I can't even comb my hair correct. How can I remake my entire av
     
    [08:16] Bleu Oleander: it's about designing your AV to depict the theme or "drop what you have to see what you are"
     
    [08:16] Agatha Macbeth: Tree-mendous
     
    [08:16] Eos Amaterasu: what is Eos about? Drop all that.
     
    [08:16] Eos Amaterasu: Wow!
    [08:16] Agatha Macbeth: Ah
    [08:16] Riddle Sideways: oooooooooooooo, those are so nice
    [08:16] Bleu Oleander: thank you models!
    [08:17] Bruce Mowbray: [`·.] APPLAUSE!! [.·´]
    [08:17] Eos Amaterasu: yay
    [08:17] Agatha Macbeth: (A tree just sat right in front of my camera)
    [08:17] Bleu Oleander: nice touch Aph!
    [08:17] Aphrodite Macbain: taa daaa
    [08:17] Riddle Sideways: complete with dance too
    [08:17] Agatha Macbeth: Ah, the good old dream dance
    [08:17] Aphrodite Macbain: just call me tinkerbell
    [08:17] Bruce Mowbray: a bit un-rooted, though.
    [08:17] Agatha Macbeth: Hello Tinkerbell
    [08:17] Riddle Sideways: ok, tink
    [08:18] Agatha Macbeth: How's pete
    [08:18] Aphrodite Macbain: I tink therefore I am
     

    [08:18] Maxine Walden: Is everyone on board withh the chatlog posting problem that Wol seemed to pose this morning?:)

    [08:18] Agatha Macbeth nods
    [08:18] Bruce Mowbray: please re-state the 'problem,' if you will.
    [08:18] Eos Amaterasu: make sure saving of chat logs is set in your SL client
    [08:18] Bleu Oleander: what did Wol say?
    [08:18] Aphrodite Macbain: not aware of it
    [08:19] Eos Amaterasu: cause the auto-logger has the flu or something
    [08:19] Eos Amaterasu: is not always working
    [08:19] Thriller Dancer: Say 'on' or 'off'to turn me on or off, or 'help' for more commands
    [08:19] Eos Amaterasu: is affected by a server problem PaB server is having
    [08:19] Aphrodite Macbain: off
    [08:19] Bruce Mowbray: ok -- How do we do that in V2?
    [08:20] Bleu Oleander: are they able to fix it?
    [08:20] Eos Amaterasu: Edit : Preferences : Text Chat
    [08:20] Bruce Mowbray: ok. Thanks, Eos.
    [08:20] Aphrodite Macbain: I don't have Edit
    [08:20] Eos Amaterasu: In Imprudence, Edit : Preferences : Communication
    [08:21] Aphrodite Macbain: no worries
    [08:21] Eos Amaterasu: So if the auto-logger fails for some reason, the Guardian on Call can post the log from the saved local chat log on their computer
    [08:21] Agatha Macbeth: As we do here
    [08:22] Eos Amaterasu: :-)
    [08:24] Bruce Mowbray: How do I indicate that logs are to be saved to my hard drive? -- I remember setting that once and want to check it again.
    [08:24] Bruce Mowbray: in version 2.
    [08:24] Aphrodite Macbain: Where do you save logs to hard drive in V2
    [08:25] Aphrodite Macbain: oops sorry same question
    [08:25] Eos Amaterasu: I don't have V2 up and running right now, but it's probably close to Edit : Preferences : Communication (or Chat)
    [08:25] Aphrodite Macbain: I didn't think I could do that at all
    [08:26] Bruce Mowbray: OK -- It's under Me, then Preferences, then Privacy...
    [08:26] Riddle Sideways: seems to be: Me->preferences->chat->plain text
    [08:26] Eos Amaterasu: On Mac the logs are kept in Library/Application Support/Second Life/<my-second-life-name>
    [08:26] Aphrodite Macbain: save IM logs or chat logs?
    [08:26] Bruce Mowbray: under "Logs" -- check the box that says "save nearby chat logs on my computer."
    [08:26] Eos Amaterasu: Save chat logs
    [08:27] Aphrodite Macbain: Thanks - it was already checked but I don't know where they are saved on my computer
    [08:27] Aphrodite Macbain: so I've never used it
    Aphrodite Macbain: so I've never used it
    Bruce Mowbray: (I'm with the pc [not Mac] and with V2 -- It is Me, then Preferences, then Privacy, then Logs. . .
    Agatha Macbeth: Hi Liz :))
    Riddle Sideways: Hi Eliza
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Everyone... so sorry to be late
    Maxine Walden: hi, Eliza
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Eliza
    Eliza Madrigal: wow, bruce :)
    Bleu Oleander: Hi Eliza

    Maxine Walden: we are reviewing where chatlogs are kept on our hard drives if the autologger is not working
     
    Bruce Mowbray: Aph- look further down on the same window -- "Location of logs"
    Eliza Madrigal: ah, great
    Eos Amaterasu: looks like Bruce met an autologger
    Eliza Madrigal: thank you
    Bruce Mowbray: Mine is in the default: C:\Second Life Cache.
    Eliza Madrigal: heheh
    Aphrodite Macbain: Oh! Of course. stupid me. Thanks Bruce

    Bruce Mowbray: OK-- Back to the project. . . (avi dropping have for be).
    You silently accept New Note from Agatha Macbeth.
    Bruce Mowbray: How's it going?
    Eos Amaterasu keeps thinking of Drop what Have Be what Art as Being scenarios :-)
    Eos Amaterasu: Bleu and Aphro have already made impressive AVs!
    Aphrodite Macbain: as has Bruce
    Bleu Oleander: shall we model again
    Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
    Eos Amaterasu: :-)
    Aphrodite Macbain: Must be hard to dance in though. Is it Bruce?
    Aphrodite Macbain: dance
    Bruce Mowbray: but now the project is explaining why we chose these avi's.
    Eliza Madrigal: oooooooooooooooooooooo aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh
     
    Maxine Walden: hi, Adams
    Eos Amaterasu: Yay!
    Aphrodite Macbain: Lovely Bleu
    Bleu Oleander: hi Adams
    Riddle Sideways: hi adams
    Bruce Mowbray: Hi, adams.
    Maxine Walden: beautiful, Bleu
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello Adams :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Adams :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: morning Adams
    Bleu Oleander: nice Tree :)
    Eos Amaterasu: gasp - a flying tree!
     
    Back to the anger session

    Adams Rubble: Sorry I am late. I hated to end that session
    Bruce Mowbray: ty!
    Riddle Sideways: dancing tree
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah, mayhem...
    Bruce Mowbray: That was a FINE session, Adams.
    Maxine Walden: seemed like a great session for the seconds I was there, Adams
    Aphrodite Macbain: I missed the dancing tree
    Aphrodite Macbain: oh cool - roots and all!
    Adams Rubble: yes, it always is lively when anger is being discussed
    Maxine Walden: :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: :-) thanks Bruce
    Bruce Mowbray: seems that's a topic -- for perhaps a theme session.
    Aphrodite Macbain: the roots of anger?
    Bleu Oleander: or anger management
    Adams Rubble: we have had some good anger sessions in PaB
    Aphrodite Macbain: the use of anger?
    Adams Rubble: one can search the Wiki for them
    Riddle Sideways: always a good topic to bring up at slow sessions
    Maxine Walden: :)
    Adams Rubble: gets pepople riled :)
    Riddle Sideways: then they chat right through the silence
    Bruce Mowbray: so, are we all set to GO with the art project?
    Eliza Madrigal: :) so just talking about anger gets people riled?
    Bleu Oleander: yes
    Adams Rubble: hehe Riddle
     
    Back to Art as Being, "drop what you have to be what you are"

    Bleu Oleander: photos going up already in the dome
    Aphrodite Macbain: we are already going. Have you photographed yourself yet?
    Eos Amaterasu: all systems go
    Bleu Oleander: your photo should be great Bruce
    Bleu Oleander: you can use the photo booth on my plot
    Bleu Oleander: or any all white background
    Aphrodite Macbain: make sure you stand up rather than sit in the Booth. That way we will get the full effect
    Bruce Mowbray is getting self-conscious -- keeps trying to "branch out" beyond himself.
    Eliza Madrigal: :) have several forms to take before a final picture emerges...
    Aphrodite Macbain: he he Bruce
    Bleu Oleander: a tree sitting on the stool could be fun though
    Eliza Madrigal: well you do have a sheltering personality Bruce
     
    Bruce Mowbray: . . . . so, does the art project need more help -- volunteers, etc?
    Bleu Oleander: need more participants
    Bleu Oleander: our session will be Nov 14
     
    Riddle Sideways: get a good picture before you drop your leaves
     
    Eliza Madrigal: ah, so time (for the process) to percolate
    Bleu Oleander: where we will do a "fashion show" of av's
    Maxine Walden: what time, Nov 14, bleu?
    Aphrodite Macbain: Perhaps those who have costumes can march through Bieup waving a plackard
     
    Bleu Oleander: at the guardian session ... 8am
    Maxine Walden: thanks
     
    Agatha Macbeth: Big plackard
    Bleu Oleander: we'll set up a runway
    Aphrodite Macbain: How do you make a plackard with a sign saying something?
    Agatha Macbeth: Yay
    Agatha Macbeth: And hope it's not windy
    Bleu Oleander: easy Aph
    Aphrodite Macbain: and then carry it?
    Aphrodite Macbain: do you wear it?
    Bleu Oleander: yes
    Bruce Mowbray listens for tutorial -- or where to find one.
    Aphrodite Macbain: make one
    Bleu Oleander: make a sign and then attach/wear it
    Bruce Mowbray: OK -- cool, of course.
    Aphrodite Macbain: It's the text I'd have problems with
    Bleu Oleander: rez a box, texture it with your sign and wear it
    Riddle Sideways wonders how this easy thing is done
    Bruce Mowbray: I can help you with that, Aph.
    Bruce Mowbray: (later).
    Aphrodite Macbain: Do you need photo shop?
    Aphrodite Macbain thanks Bruce
    Bleu Oleander: some kind of graphics program
    Aphrodite Macbain: hmm
    Riddle Sideways: how do I make the texture with words?
    Bruce Mowbray: You need a paint program that will do text. - - either Photo Shop or Paint Shopt Pro, etc.
    Bleu Oleander: or make a sign and photograph it
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Bleu Oleander: import photo as texture for sign
    Bruce Mowbray: then upload that image (of the words) and use it as your texture for the sign.
    Riddle Sideways: ok
    Aphrodite Macbain: lots of options. all I'll need is time. I'll figure it out (with help from Bruce and Bleu)
    Bruce Mowbray: yeppers.
    Bleu Oleander: ask any time :)
    Bruce Mowbray: any other topics for discussion today?
    Aphrodite Macbain: I propose that next year we have a Halloween party!
    Maxine Walden: nice idea!
     
    Adams Rubble: Is the new working group in place now?
     
    Bleu Oleander: i'm up for that!
    Aphrodite Macbain: we alll come dressed up and bring a food dish
    Aphrodite Macbain: then dance
    Bleu Oleander: new WG has started, yes
    Aphrodite Macbain: and maybe sing
    Aphrodite Macbain: WG?
    Eliza Madrigal: we can dress up as a food dish...
    Bleu Oleander: working group
    Riddle Sideways: the day is still young, we could party today
    Bleu Oleander: lots of art ideas Aph .... for future projects
    Adams Rubble: May I express my appreciation to those who served and those now serving?
    Aphrodite Macbain: I'd need to cook something
    Eliza Madrigal: Me too, huge thanks everyone. Thank you Adams
    Bruce Mowbray: TY, Eliza.
    Bruce Mowbray: ty, Aph.
    Bleu Oleander: funny Bruce ... a tree eating a steak
    Agatha Macbeth: Trick or tree
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Bleu Oleander: hey that was my joke
    Agatha Macbeth grins
    Eliza Madrigal: we are one, bleu
    Eliza Madrigal: ;-)
    Bleu Oleander: cheap shot
    Bruce Mowbray: Better than a tree eating a STAKE. . . (cannibalism).
    Eliza Madrigal giggles
    Agatha Macbeth: As Dracula said
    Bruce Mowbray: yikes!
    Aphrodite Macbain: hehe
    Eliza Madrigal: Everyone in the community is so attentive to so many things, really love our community :) Aphrodite Macbain: who's drinking coffee?
    Agatha Macbeth: This tree seems to have an appetite...
     
    Eos Amaterasu: New WG (Working Group) includes (Eliza), Storm, Eos, Cal, Aphrodite, Hana, Bruce, with Blue connecting thru Art as Being.....
     
    Bleu Oleander: after dinner coffee, Tree?
    Eliza Madrigal: Eliza is (suspended) in parentheses.. hehe
    Eos Amaterasu: Inworld SL retreat idea is percolating ....
    Eos Amaterasu: hugs :-)
    Adams Rubble: Hurrah for the new WG :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :))
    Bleu Oleander: ( ) = permanently on the WG?
    Aphrodite Macbain: wb Bruce
    Maxine Walden: :)
    Bruce Mowbray: ty.
    Bleu Oleander: yes, inworld sl retreat .... under discussion?
    Aphrodite Macbain: easier to drink coffee this way?
    Eliza Madrigal: haha.. yes I'm stepping back and feeling really excited about the new energy of the group...
    Eliza Madrigal: but of course hard to keep my toes out completely ... haha
    Bleu Oleander: especially with that ankle bracelet
    Agatha Macbeth examines Eliza's toes
     
    Eos Amaterasu: Eliza and I have been talking about in-SL retreat. She and Adams did that 1.5 years ago
    Eliza Madrigal: haha
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes. you have been doing a lot of work. It's nice to have someone share it with you
    Aphrodite Macbain: I'm not sure how different it would be from what we are doing now
    Eos Amaterasu: that's the question!
    Adams Rubble: Inworld is very convenient
    Eliza Madrigal: yes, the SL retreat is something have really wanted to come back to...
    Aphrodite Macbain: what is missing?
    Eliza Madrigal: glad we're here :)
    Bruce Mowbray: the retreat in Stuttgart or the one in New Orleans?
    Eliza Madrigal: nothing is missing... might be something to dwell on
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eos Amaterasu is thinking about over Christmas time SL retreat?
     
    Yakuzza Lethecus: is there a ,,virtual new orleans" in sl ? :)
    Adams Rubble: may I suggest a skybox
     
    Eos Amaterasu: :-)
    Eliza Madrigal: that's a good idea Adams
    Adams Rubble: no interruptions
    Aphrodite Macbain: I am just not clear what an inworld retreat would be like other than meeting and talking the way we are already doing
    Bruce Mowbray: OH! - a retreat in SL?
    Eliza Madrigal: yes...
     
    Adams Rubble: it is what we bring to it
     
    Eos Amaterasu: It's nice to have a good quality space, both in RL and in SL
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes bruce
    Bruce Mowbray: cool -- and less expensive, too.
     
    Eliza Madrigal: In RL retreats there is more focus on exercizes and the lack of interruptions would be important
    Aphrodite Macbain: but we're doing it right now
    Eos Amaterasu: Aph, maybe more frequent, more regular practice (with some longer practice) sessions
    Aphrodite Macbain: no one is interrupting us now
    Eos Amaterasu: re-arrange the time/space furniture a bit
    Aphrodite Macbain: more structure perhaps?
    Aphrodite Macbain: more focussed discussions with facilitators?
    Riddle Sideways: will somebody come cook me a veggie meal?
    Eos Amaterasu: playing as being while talking is both easy and hard
    Bleu Oleander: might be a nice middle step towards a rl retreat
    Adams Rubble: what kind of time period are you considering?
     
    Eos Amaterasu: I think part of the inspiration is that the seemingly greater depth of experience that can happen in RL retreat really can also happen here in SL
     
    Eliza Madrigal: yes Bleu, that would be the idea
    Eliza Madrigal nods at Eos
    Eliza Madrigal: The thing is, in a rl retreat or sl one still brings their own intention... so those who came might set aside the time to
    Eliza Madrigal: deepen their practice in a restful way
    Eos Amaterasu: Yes
    Eos Amaterasu: RESTful (to Riddle)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: and there would be 'offerings' of exercises..
    Aphrodite Macbain: I find this restful already
    Aphrodite Macbain: hmm
    Eliza Madrigal: it (may/may not) be something you would like Aph...
    Eliza Madrigal: not sure...
    Bleu Oleander: a different mix of voices than the rl retreats perhaps
    Aphrodite Macbain perks up her ears
    Eos Amaterasu: you ain't seen nothin' yet, Aph :-)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
     
    Aphrodite Macbain grins in anticipation
    Adams Rubble: what kind of time period are you considering?
    Aphrodite Macbain: 18th century?
    Eos Amaterasu: nice
    Bleu Oleander: time travel
    Eliza Madrigal: yes... everyone more able to come
    Eliza Madrigal: haha
    Eos Amaterasu: umm, bad toilets
    Aphrodite Macbain: come in costume
    Maxine Walden: :))
    Aphrodite Macbain: that's RL
    Eliza Madrigal: would prefer the future though, so those who are yet to join pab can be there
    Eos Amaterasu: good idea
    Eos Amaterasu: is there a tomorrow in SL?
    Eliza Madrigal: hehe
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
     
    Byesies

    Bleu Oleander: have to go .... nice to see everyone ... looks forward to more details on sl retreat :)
    Maxine Walden: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: thanks so much Bleu
    Agatha Macbeth: Bye Bleu
    Bleu Oleander: bye all
    Eos Amaterasu: by e bleu
    Adams Rubble: bye Bleu
    Eliza Madrigal: it hasn't really been discussed Adams...
    Bruce Mowbray: yes, I need to go back to bed -- have a terrible cold.
    Eliza Madrigal: re dates
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bye
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bye!
    Eliza Madrigal: but good to begin to get suggestions and thoughts
    Bruce Mowbray: thanks everyone and may all be well and happy -- Happy Halloween!
    Yakuzza Lethecus: bye everyone who´s leaving
    Maxine Walden: have to go as well. bye all
    Adams Rubble: aww Bruce. hope you feel better
    Aphrodite Macbain: Oh take care Bruce
    Eliza Madrigal: soonish would be good :)
    Adams Rubble: bye everyone who is leaving
    Eos Amaterasu: be weller,Bruce
    Aphrodite Macbain: sleeeeeeep
    Agatha Macbeth: Bye for now
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye to those are are going..
    Riddle Sideways: bye bye
    Riddle Sideways: bye
    Agatha Macbeth waves
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye Riddle :)
     
    Back to SL Retreat

    Adams Rubble: It sounds very interesting Eos
    Aphrodite Macbain: Sorry if I sounded negative. I diddn't mean to be. I just wasn't clear what a SL retreat would look like
    Agatha Macbeth: That makes two of us Aphro
    Eliza Madrigal: oh.. no I see what you mean... am half asleep like bruce :)
    Eos Amaterasu: Ideally we're already doing it - that's what PaB is about, perhaps
    Aphrodite Macbain: For me, this IS a retreat - from RL
    Eliza Madrigal: yes
    Eos Amaterasu: but we can also play with even more ideally doing it
    Eliza Madrigal: yes... we can have different sorts of spaces
    Eos Amaterasu: Every RL retreat has been very different
    Eliza Madrigal: and levels of intimacy in a way
     
    Aphrodite Macbain: can you describe what that would be Eos?
    Adams Rubble: A SL retreat could be more inclusive..no restrictions on travel or funds
    Eliza Madrigal: yes
    Aphrodite Macbain: but this is what SL is all about already
     
    Eos Amaterasu: For example, we could have a 5 day period (mabye between Xmas and New Year's) where we do 3 in-world sessions per day
    Eos Amaterasu: and some of those session include more extended "practice"
    Eos Amaterasu: as well as personal commitments to more extended practice in whatever way we do that
    Eliza Madrigal: yes, in regular sessions sometimes sustained exercizes are difficult...
    Aphrodite Macbain: OK. What kind of practice are we talking about?
    Eos Amaterasu: and we could combine SL and RL
    Eliza Madrigal: just due to coming and goings... so it would be a kind of commitment I guess
     
    Eos Amaterasu: for example, we could talk about Being Seeing
    Eos Amaterasu: and then go for a walk together in SL
     
    Eliza Madrigal nods
    Eos Amaterasu: or each go for a walk in RL
    Eos Amaterasu: play :-)
    Aphrodite Macbain: hmmm
    Eos Amaterasu: but also more be-ing
     
    Eliza Madrigal: or visit different places in sl...
    Aphrodite Macbain: brb phone
    Eliza Madrigal: one or two if conducive
    Eliza Madrigal: in a garden or forest or some such
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Moon's shop?
    Eos Amaterasu: you can create your own ideal "retreat" environment
    Eliza Madrigal: maybe somewhere like hikari, sure
    Eliza Madrigal: beautiful there... or hikaru
    Eos Amaterasu: and also meet in cafés
    Eliza Madrigal: :
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: urban SL...
    Aphrodite Macbain: back
    Adams Rubble: Dubrovna can set up more chairs in the museum (giggles)
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello Back
    Eliza Madrigal smiles
    Aphrodite Macbain: where's hikaru?
    Eliza Madrigal: let me get a landmark, it is Moon's place...
    Adams Rubble: The Botanical Gardens would be another garden
    Eliza Madrigal: ah, yes.. really nice there too
    Aphrodite Macbain: hhhnnnnmmm Botanical gardens sounds really promising. Where are they?
    Aphrodite Macbain: In Bieup?
    Aphrodite Macbain accepted your inventory offer.
    Adams Rubble looking
    Eliza Madrigal: (the lm is to hikari... but hikaru is next to that I think )
    Aphrodite Macbain: Love the idea of meeting in a garden. Each of us sitting on a stump
    Eos Amaterasu accepted your inventory offer.
    Eos Amaterasu: thnx
    Agatha Macbeth accepted your inventory offer.
    Aphrodite Macbain: Tx
    Eliza Madrigal: :) Aph
    Agatha Macbeth: ty Liz
    Eliza Madrigal: and letting the weather change around us
    Aphrodite Macbain: Is it a Japanese garden?
    Eos Amaterasu: tx adams
    Adams Rubble: everyone get one?
    Eliza Madrigal: ty Adams
    You silently accept *The SL Botanical Gardens *, The Botanical Gardens (156, 47, 29 from Adams Rubble.
    Aphrodite Macbain: what are we getting?
    Adams Rubble: an English Garden
    Aphrodite Macbain: Oh Please send me one too
    Agatha Macbeth already has one...
    Aphrodite Macbain: Oh there it is!
    Eliza Madrigal: or we could meet underwater... heheh
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Adams Rubble: something we can't do in RL
    Eliza Madrigal: yes :)
    Eliza Madrigal: thanks for bringing this up again Eos
    Adams Rubble: yes, thanks
    Aphrodite Macbain: now I'm getting interested...:-)
    Eos Amaterasu: thank _you_!
    Eliza Madrigal: idea growing on you Aph? :)
    Eos Amaterasu: thank you all!
    Eos Amaterasu: bye
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes, like an aplle
    Agatha Macbeth: TTFN
    Adams Rubble: bye everyone
    Aphrodite Macbain: apple
    Aphrodite Macbain: I think I'll go and visit a garden now!
    Eliza Madrigal: Thanks everyone... thank you Aph, your questions are really helpful...
    Eliza Madrigal: sure you are asking for others not present, to :)
    Eliza Madrigal: *too
    Eliza Madrigal: you'll LOVE the gardens, both
    Aphrodite Macbain: Wow Eliza - you'rebeautiful!
    Eliza Madrigal: :) TY
    Eliza Madrigal: Have a great day, guys
    Eliza Madrigal: off to clean the house for teenagers to invade tonight
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    
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