Page last modified 10:37, 1 Nov 2010 by maxine walden

The guardian is Maxine Walden. All the comments are hers.

Maxine Walden: hi, Wol

Wol Euler: hello maxine

Maxine Walden: how are you? been a few days since we've seen each other, maybe a week, but feels like a long time

Wol Euler nods.

Wol Euler: busy, but I've said that before :)

Maxine Walden: ah, Wol, did you put the punch there for us?

Wol Euler: I'm off to Japan in three weeks, and have to get everything set up before then

Wol Euler: no, that belongs to Aphrodite - it was her birthday Fridy

Maxine Walden: ah, how nice! That should be wonderfully interesting, Japan.

Wol Euler: yes, I'm sure :)

Maxine Walden: ah, Aphro's birthday punch!

Wol Euler: hello arch.

Maxine Walden: yes, have you been to Japan before?

Maxine Walden: arch, hi!

Wol Euler: no, my first time. It's always been a dream to go there though

Wol Euler: since I was a child

Archmage Atlantis: No, bu koi live with me

Maxine Walden: wonderful to have a dream come true!

Wol Euler smiles

Wol Euler: hello pila

Maxine Walden: Arch, can't help but think of Icarus, looking at your wings

Wol Euler: :)

Maxine Walden: lovely to see the wings from this angle, quite embracing

Pila Mulligan: greetings (laggy for me)

Archmage Atlantis: Yes, I do also Maxine

Maxine Walden: hi, Pila, good to see you

Archmage Atlantis: To fly to the stars, and to falll

Wol Euler nods.

Pila Mulligan: nice to see you all

Wol Euler: likeweise

Pila Mulligan: this seating arrangement suggests we three are supplicants before st Peter at the Pearly Gates

Wol Euler: heheheh

Pila Mulligan: :)

Maxine Walden: :))

Wol Euler: hello hokon

Hokon Cazalet: hi =)

Pila Mulligan: hi Hokoon

Pila Mulligan: Hokon*

Archmage Atlantis: oh f..... does that mean I have to do the pearly gates drama again

Maxine Walden: :))

Wol Euler: have you been here before, Hokon? I think I know your name.

Archmage Atlantis: Thought human was beyond that

Hokon Cazalet: yup

Pila Mulligan: gets repetitious, doesn't it :)

Wol Euler: ok, good, just checking :)

Pila Mulligan: Happy Haolwwen, btw

Pila Mulligan: Haloween

Archmage Atlantis: Yea, you and my ...... cat

Wol Euler: hello ari, nice to see you again

Pila Mulligan: hi Arisia

Arisia Vita: Hi all

Maxine Walden: hi, Ari, very nice to see you!

Wol Euler: ooooh, the Phantom!

Arisia Vita: :)

Arisia Vita: a shy Phantom...who hides behind his mask

Archmage Atlantis: Yea, Ari....even dead....or alive....I forget which play we are doing

Arisia Vita: we are doing life, a little of both

Archmage Atlantis: oh yea, play as being, duh

Archmage Atlantis: needs sugar doughnut

Wol Euler: :)

Hokon Cazalet: yummy

Wol Euler: bring me one too please?

Wol Euler: I bought two packs of biscuits for the weeknd, and ate them both on Saturday :(

Pila Mulligan: :)

Wol Euler: and tomorrow is a holiday :(

Maxine Walden: :)), Wol, I know that feeling...ah yes, All Saints Day?

Wol Euler: mmhmm

Wol Euler: public holiday here

Maxine Walden: but no biscuit shops open?

Wol Euler: nope

Wol Euler: if I am lucky, there might be a patisserie open somewhere

Wol Euler: else it'll be yoghurt and dry crackers

Maxine Walden: ahh, sounds like some kind of healthy punishment!

Wol Euler: :)

Wol Euler: well, I know that I shouldn't be eating a pack of biscuits a day :-/

Wol Euler: and I usually don√Ñt.

Maxine Walden: but just sometimes....

Wol Euler: mmhmm

Archmage Atlantis: yogurt and dry crackers, souns tasty

Wol Euler: actually, it's not as bad as it sounds. Very tasty creamy yoghurt, and sesame-seed Wasa crackers,

Wol Euler: a luxurious kind of abstinence

Maxine Walden: :)

Archmage Atlantis: Weened my way down from banger and mash

Pila Mulligan: apples & rasisins are nice with yogurt also

Archmage Atlantis: Still have all the same insanity

Wol Euler nods.

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Maxine Walden: aware that around Halloween I can feel those exciting feelings from childhood, costumes and all, and just now during the pause, felt I was a long way from the 'drop what I have...' state

Pila Mulligan: :)

Archmage Atlantis: Genetics rule, I suppose........wandering in he desert <> wandering in the dessert

Maxine Walden: :)

Wol Euler: :)

Archmage Atlantis: Pardon me while I change

Maxine Walden: any PaB thoughts?

Wol Euler: I was thinking about the retreat in Halifax, and the next one there.

Maxine Walden: yes, Wol?

Wol Euler: I could easily get used to attending retreats :

Wol Euler: :)

Maxine Walden: :)

Wol Euler: such a wonderful step +sideways+ out of normal life, for a while

Wol Euler: like the moving-floor things at airports

Maxine Walden: :)

Wol Euler: you just step off and let it flow on past you

Wol Euler: watching the people go by

Wol Euler: until you're ready to get back on

Maxine Walden: lovely image

Maxine Walden: hi, Liza

Liza Deischer: hi everyone :)

Pila Mulligan: hi Liza

Hokon Cazalet: hi =)

Wol Euler: hello liza

Wol Euler: wb arch

Maxine Walden: wb, Arch

Archmage Atlantis: ty

Archmage Atlantis: Pls, continue the conversation

Maxine Walden: maybe it seems we stopped because you came in, Arch. Not so, we seem to be in a pause...

Archmage Atlantis: In this form, patience is not my virtue

Wol Euler: it's a chance to practice Metta on yourself, perhaps :)

Maxine Walden: ah, silence can trigger impatience or discomfort

Maxine Walden: Metta, Wol?

Hokon Cazalet: a fridn wants to show me some stuff she got, have a good day all =)

Wol Euler: loving-kindness, compassion

Wol Euler: bye hokon, take care.

Maxine Walden: bye, Hokon, thanks for coming

Hokon Cazalet waves

Maxine Walden: ah, thanks, wol

Archmage Atlantis: dang, sitting across the poool .....again

Maxine Walden: :)

Wol Euler: come and join us

Archmage Atlantis: by Pilla, or by Ari, Wol?

Wol Euler: as you wish :)

Maxine Walden: wonder if we might reflect upon our silence, or what going on for us in the silence, and after the next pause, in just a minute or so, maybe we could share about it

Wol Euler: both are nice people.

Arisia Vita: you are welcome to sit by me

Pila Mulligan: and actually Pila is about ready to take on some RL work

Archmage Atlantis: Yes, both are nice, but represent differently

Pila Mulligan and thus slips away for now -- aloha

Maxine Walden: bye, Pila, thanks for coming

Wol Euler: bye pila, take care

Arisia Vita: bye pila

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Archmage Atlantis: Be healed, Pila love

Maxine Walden: seems silence can feel like a refuge or an empty place...depending on our state of mind

Wol Euler nods.

Arisia Vita: silence and I are old friends

Wol Euler thinks of Paul Simon

Maxine Walden: 'sounds of silence', ?

Wol Euler: mmhmm

Arisia Vita: lovely

Archmage Atlantis: Words are only tools, perfect at what they do.....lost in what they do not do

Maxine Walden: interesting thought, Arch

Arisia Vita: Words are the clothes meaning wears to go out in public....

Wol Euler: :)

Wol Euler: nicely said

Maxine Walden: :), very nice

Arisia Vita: welcome Liza

Wol Euler: "Language is a cracked kettle on which we beat out tunes for bears to dance to, while all the time we long to move the stars to pity." Flaubert :)

Wol Euler: wb liza

Maxine Walden: ah, wol, interesting quote

Wol Euler smiles.

Maxine Walden: so much longing can go on 'under' the language

Archmage Atlantis: I remember Flaubert

Wol Euler: Liza is having ISP trouble :( Her modem keeps disconnecting.

Maxine Walden: ah, wondered what the problem was for Liza

Archmage Atlantis: Cracking the kettle is step 1.a in a programmming manual.

Archmage Atlantis: Need to attempt to go, phil so phy class

Wol Euler: :)

Wol Euler: bye arch, learn well.

Maxine Walden: thanks for coming, Arch.

Arisia Vita: be well and happy

Wol Euler: tell us a little about what goes on under language, Maxine?

Arisia Vita: wb Liza

Arisia Vita: take one of our hands, perhaps it will help keep you here...

Maxine Walden: :)

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Wol Euler: re-wb liza

Maxine Walden: It seems to me that we have various levels of thought and feeling at the same time, some close to verbal expression, some, often deep feelings which seem farther down from verbal expression...

Arisia Vita: I am off to find wisdom... :)

Arisia Vita: see you both later

Arisia Vita: Hi Alfred

Arisia Vita: and bye for now

Wol Euler: bye ari, hello alf

Maxine Walden: bye Arisia, thanks for coming

Maxine Walden: hi, Alf

Alfred Kelberry: phew... ran here from tarmel's place :)

Maxine Walden: so we may have a rich emotional life which barely comes into words

Maxine Walden: ran all the way?

Alfred Kelberry: good to see you all

Wol Euler nods.

Alfred Kelberry: woly the crow? :)

Wol Euler: someting like that

Alfred Kelberry: neat

Alfred Kelberry: *comes closer*

Wol Euler: Ari was here as the Phantom of theOpera, I thought I shold follow along

Maxine Walden: hahah, wonderful!

Alfred Kelberry: um, i like this deep cut

Wol Euler: :)

Alfred Kelberry: :)

Maxine Walden: :)

Alfred Kelberry: is it a dream's session today?

Maxine Walden: in a way it's always a dream session! But not formally

Alfred Kelberry: :)

Wol Euler smiles.

Maxine Walden: do you have a dream you would like to share, alf?

Alfred Kelberry: i'm still uneasy about gaya the bunny killing people in her dream

Alfred Kelberry: although, i can see that in some funky japanese manga :)

Maxine Walden: can be disturbing to have violent dream images...often disguise for other things

Maxine Walden: but also that we do have violent fantasies deep down, most of us anyway

Alfred Kelberry: cute bunny with a shotgun in her hands shoting people and blood scatters all over and she's singing some nice happy song

Alfred Kelberry: ok, it was a comics depiction :)

Maxine Walden: does sound so incongruous! Did not recall all those details

Wol Euler: :)

Wol Euler: that sounds so unlike Gaya.

Maxine Walden: right

Alfred Kelberry: yes, i was shocked when she said that

Wol Euler: was it herself, the bunny, inthe dream?

Maxine Walden: one of the things that snags us is that we often mistake the thought/dream for something close to the deed. In early life, our thought is equated with the dream

Alfred Kelberry: maybe woly is a docile nun in her dreams :)

Maxine Walden: don't recall, Wol, do you recall, Alf?

Alfred Kelberry: um... no, i think it was her

Alfred Kelberry: i just see her as a cute bunny with a corrot

Alfred Kelberry: :)

Maxine Walden: And only when we grow some do we separate out our thoughts from the same as deeds

Alfred Kelberry: hmm

Alfred Kelberry: it may not necessarily be anger, maxine?

Maxine Walden: may not be anger at all, alf. Might be something else entirely

Alfred Kelberry: yes...

Maxine Walden: that is what is so puzzling about dreams, we cannot really take them literally

Wol Euler nods.

Alfred Kelberry: funny visualization of emotions our brains picks up sometimes :)

Wol Euler: I can imagine that scene (bunny murdering, blood flying) being played out almost poetically, in a manga style

Maxine Walden: hmm, yes

Alfred Kelberry: yes, wol! that's what i thought :)

Wol Euler: there was a film called "Desperado" with Antonio Banderas adn Selma Hayek, remake of "the mariachi"

Wol Euler: exremely bloody

Alfred Kelberry: ah, yes

Maxine Walden: I am going to need to go in a minute or so. As I will post the chatlog from another computer, could someone send me the rest of the chatlog on email? I will copy this into textedit before I have to leave this computer.

Alfred Kelberry: *imagines red water in the fountain*

Wol Euler: sure, maxine.

Alfred Kelberry: i can, maxine

Maxine Walden: thanks, Wol or Alf. See you soon, I hope.

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Maxine Walden: bye for now

Alfred Kelberry: bye :)

Alfred Kelberry: who did you kill in your dream, woly?

Wol Euler: there was a great scene in that film where Banderas singlehandedly takes on an entire bar full of criminals, all armed, and kills them all.

Wol Euler: It's filmed like a ballet, he strides like a toreador down the length of the bar counter, shooting left and right

Alfred Kelberry: yes, i vaguely remember it :)

Wol Euler: quite surreal

Wol Euler: had Sam Fuller filmed that, it would have been stomach-turning.

Alfred Kelberry: hmm

Alfred Kelberry: i don't know him

Wol Euler: in this case it turned out to have a strange and intense kind of beauty, quite poetic.

Alfred Kelberry: spanish guitar :)

Yakuzza Lethecus: nabend

Alfred Kelberry: intense and poetic

Wol Euler: he made mostly realistic war films, where people die in pain and in pieces

Yakuzza Lethecus: good evening alf

Wol Euler: hello yaku

Alfred Kelberry: oi, yaku :)

Yakuzza Lethecus: which director ?

Alfred Kelberry: *googles*

Wol Euler: Sam Fuller

Wol Euler: I'll cut and paste you the contxt in a notecard

Alfred Kelberry: i don't think i've seen any of his movies

Wol Euler: it was just a reference that came to mind, he was the opposite of poetic when it came to violence

Alfred Kelberry: well, i prefer a poetic kind, if any

Alfred Kelberry: i don't think i've ever shot someone in a dream

Yakuzza Lethecus: well, i think i did

Yakuzza Lethecus: i think i dream of everything i do

Alfred Kelberry: wow, another murderer

Alfred Kelberry: :)

Yakuzza Lethecus: and i play violent computergames sometimes

Yakuzza Lethecus: so moving tigertanks,p4's and panthers around is kinda fun and propably something i dream about sometimes

Alfred Kelberry: *looks at woly* mmm :)

Yakuzza Lethecus: even tho that it's nothing i would think is supposed to be dreamt about

Alfred Kelberry: yaku :)

Wol Euler nods

Wol Euler: but what does "supposed to be" mean?

Wol Euler: we don't choose what to dream, unless we are lucid dreamers

Alfred Kelberry: :)

Yakuzza Lethecus: yes, i think about lucid dreaming often

Yakuzza Lethecus: espcially since reading the dream workshop

Yakuzza Lethecus: i think i year ago the concept was unknown to me

Wol Euler nods.

Yakuzza Lethecus: i even dream of secondlife

Wol Euler: of course :)

Wol Euler: all the time :)

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Yakuzza Lethecus: and the other night i dreamt about an avatar that was used by fox sometimes after i saw a few pictues of the anime ,,spirited away"

Wol Euler nods.

Wol Euler: that was quite striking.

Wol Euler: disturbing actually

Yakuzza Lethecus: did you watch all the miyazaki movies ?

Alfred Kelberry: miya-who?

Yakuzza Lethecus: mononoke, moving castle, ,,heidi" :P

Wol Euler: never seen any of them actually

Wol Euler: a gap in my education :)

Yakuzza Lethecus: well :)

Yakuzza Lethecus: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119698/

Yakuzza Lethecus: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0347149/

Wol Euler: looking ...

Yakuzza Lethecus: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0245429/

Alfred Kelberry: how often do you dream, yaku?

Yakuzza Lethecus: well, i need to be in a secure and calm state often i don't have a ,,just dreaming" experience

Yakuzza Lethecus: but last week i dreamt one night conciously

Yakuzza Lethecus: often i just go to bed with thoughts and wake up the next morning with the same

Alfred Kelberry: :)

Yakuzza Lethecus: then i don't have had the feeling that i dreamt of anything even tho that i might have

Alfred Kelberry: imagine recursive dreaming in a dream. that would be a nightmare :)

Wol Euler: or a film: Inception

Alfred Kelberry: could make a nice script for a movie actually

Wol Euler: highly recommended if you haven't already seen it!

Alfred Kelberry: ah, haven't seen that one yet

Alfred Kelberry: yes, it's on the list

Yakuzza Lethecus: well, i'll log out of sl. bye the both of you

Yakuzza Lethecus: btw. do you read ,,jim butcher" novels wol ?

Wol Euler: bye yaku, takae care

Alfred Kelberry: so, in a movie, you keep waking up thinking this is the real world, but it isn't... and then in the end you wake up in the first dream ending the loop :)

Wol Euler: don't know them

Wol Euler: who wrote it?

Yakuzza Lethecus: jim butcher is the authors :P

Alfred Kelberry: i don't read novels

Wol Euler: ah :)

Yakuzza Lethecus: like the dresden files

Wol Euler: hehehe

Wol Euler: no, I'll look that up

Yakuzza Lethecus: or codex alera

Yakuzza Lethecus: it's fantasy

Yakuzza Lethecus: anyway, take care

Alfred Kelberry: auf

Wol Euler: bye

Wol Euler: that was fast

Alfred Kelberry: dresden is a lovely city

Wol Euler: I could wear this more often :) but not here

Alfred Kelberry: why not?

Wol Euler: it would be distractiong

Alfred Kelberry: it's perfectly black

Wol Euler: um, yes

Alfred Kelberry: :)

Alfred Kelberry: so, the session is over?

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Wol Euler: as soon as I click on the rcorder to stop it

Alfred Kelberry: hmm, ok

Wol Euler: did you want to say somehting first? :)

Alfred Kelberry: um... for the record? :)

Wol Euler: wel :)

Wol Euler: as you wish

Wol Euler: there's no requirement to do so

Wol Euler: but you sounded almost disappointed

Alfred Kelberry: ah, no

Alfred Kelberry: i should be going actually

Wol Euler: me too

Wol Euler: goodnight alf, take care

Alfred Kelberry: auf :)

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