2010.11.05 07:00 - Being Observed Vs. Being Seen OR "I'm being greeted before I myself appear!"

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    The guardian for this session was Eliza Madrigal. :) Comments and a few rearrangements due to this session starting at the end of Time, have been made along the way. So much richness in this session.  

    Thank You. :)

    Yakuzza Lethecus: hi eos :)
    Alfred Kelberry: eos canon :)
    Zen Arado: nite Sharry
    Bruce Mowbray: Hey, Eos.
    Eliza Madrigal giggles
    Eos Amaterasu: KuanOn
    Zen Arado: Kannon
    Bleu Oleander: hi Eos
    Zen Arado: Kanzeon
    Eliza Madrigal: meant to mention what a lovely session you had Tuesday night Eos...
    Eliza Madrigal: discussing the gardens with Hana
    Eos Amaterasu: :-)

    Reference to that really nice session: 2010.11.02 19:00 - Gardens and Spirit Rocks


    Alfred Kelberry: http://bit.ly/c9gXsi
    Eos Amaterasu: Yes.... Art of Being opportunities everywhere!
    Bleu Oleander: hi Eden :)
    Zen Arado: Hi EDen :)
    Eliza Madrigal: thanks for that.. was nice to read when I was feeling badly
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey eden :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Eden :))
    Bruce Mowbray: Hey, Eden!
    Darren Islar: hi Eden :)
    Darren Islar: oops
    Eos Amaterasu: Yes, Alf.... I also once saw an Eos headlight
    Eden Haiku: Hi!
    Eos Amaterasu: (Eliza)


    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Eden, you would have appreciated our time discussion today, we we talked a little about the limitations and freedoms of roles ... so many choices )
    Eden Haiku: The "mummy rolls of roles" as Maxine put it?

    Reference to Maxine's wonderful time report this week: 2010.11.04: Maxine Walden


    Eliza Madrigal: yes a little like that.... unraveling and raveling
    Eden Haiku: Ah unraveling, what a nice word Eliza. :)
    Eos Amaterasu groks mummy roles of rolls
    Zen Arado: a roleing stone gathers no moss
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Alfred Kelberry: *looks at the tag labels above the avs and feels how it creates a context for each*
    Eliza Madrigal: playful stones...
    Zen Arado: and gets no satisfaction...
    Eliza Madrigal: as in a pebble falling water garden perhaps
    Bleu Oleander: some wonderful photos accumulating in the dome for the art of being project .... (gentle reminder for those still working on theirs :))
    Eos Amaterasu gulps
    Eliza Madrigal: yes... I'm in between presentations and stories at the moment
    Alfred Kelberry: ah! that's why you're dressed in pinky clothes, eden? :)

    --BELL--

    Eliza Madrigal: about how many have displayed so far Bleu?
    Eden Haiku: Pink is my favorite color Alf. I dress in pink very often in RL also :)
    Bleu Oleander: I think about 6 or 7
    Alfred Kelberry: *watches blub's making circles*
    Alfred Kelberry: eden, neat :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Nice!I'll have to go back... so many ways to work with an exploration like this one
    Eos Amaterasu: Art as Being picture of Bruce: drop, and only Blub is left
    Bleu Oleander: ha!
    Eden Haiku: Just learnt a new word: to grok. Thanks Eos (and thanks the dictionnary hehe) I'm hoping to grok it in the future :)
    Eos Amaterasu: then only Blub's bubble is left
    Brian Roop scratches his head in puzzlment, has lost the thread of this conversation
    Eliza Madrigal: heheh
    Bruce Mowbray: Blub is getting self-conscious now.
    Eliza Madrigal: there isn't really one yet Brian :)
    Bleu Oleander: that would be Blub dropping
    Eos Amaterasu: multithreading happens
    Eliza Madrigal: we're just playing
    Zen Arado: Blub is getting scared

    Bruce and I zoom in on our visitor ...


    Bruce Mowbray: Brian, is there a topic you'd wish to discuss -- I fee a need for a topic.
    Eliza Madrigal: What are your interests Brian? :) Anything we can answer about the group?
    Zen Arado: faces emptiness
    Alfred Kelberry: zen :)
    Alfred Kelberry: scary picture
    Brian Roop: imaging, images and their relationship to reality
    Zen Arado: the emptiness of his bubble
    Zen Arado: what kind of images Brian?
    Bruce Mowbray Blub does not relate to "emptiness" and neither does Bruce.
    Bruce Mowbray: listens intently to Brian.
    Brian Roop: i'm into photography
    Zen Arado: relates to form than Bruce?
    Eliza Madrigal: relationships between how things appear and how they are? Oh... nice Brian
    Brian Roop: there's a zen to it
    Eliza Madrigal: how so?
    Eden Haiku: :)
    Bruce Mowbray is intrigued.

    Brian Roop: catching the moment when the image will tell the story of what it depicts

    Zen Arado: ever read 'The Zen of Creativity' by John Loori Brian?
    Eden Haiku: ah, nice :)
    Brian Roop: no
    Eliza Madrigal: :) sometimes a photo will catch something one didn't know was there...
    Brian Roop: well yes
    Eos Amaterasu: and then wondering if it will do the same for someone else?
    Brian Roop: i have certainly had a few dumb-luck moments
    Bleu Oleander: camera captures more than than ones sees many times
    Brian Roop: but mostly it's hard work

    Zen Arado: http://www.amazon.com/Zen-Creativity...8966980&sr=1-1

    Eliza Madrigal: sometimes a person thinks they are snapping 'tree' and reveals 'light'
    Eden Haiku: in art, there is always "the" moment as in zen archery and painting isn't it? To catch 'the" moment and yet, it is also an unraveling...
    Eos Amaterasu: catching serendipity
    Brian Roop: knowing what will lead up to that moment of capture
    Eos Amaterasu: ah yes
    Eliza Madrigal: ah, yes
    Eos Amaterasu: :-)
    Eos Amaterasu: the stillness even _in_ the pounce!


    Alfred Kelberry: brian... i'm looking at the screen and thinking if it's so easy to trick our vision into thinking of 2d as 3d, how even more fragile our perception is in this sense that involves many more interactions to form
    Brian Roop: but the actual moment is almost unconscious
    Bruce Mowbray ponders the siginifance of "framing" with imagery.
    Zen Arado: Loori studied photography with a guy called Minor White who made photographers meditate before going out to photograph
    Eos Amaterasu: trees and light, me taking photos, being taking photos
    Bruce Mowbray: does the unconscious element relate to the "zen" of photography, Brian?
    Bleu Oleander: many layers of vision
    Eliza Madrigal wonders if one can acclimate to 'blind spot' (the way one acclimates to seeing in the dark)
    Darren Islar: sorry, I don't seem to be really here, so I let you to it :)
    Brian Roop: oh yes
    Darren Islar: bye everyone :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye Darren :)
    Eden Haiku: Bye Darren
    Brian Roop: bye
    Alfred Kelberry: bruce, yes... framing. as in "decisive moment" of cartier-breson :) or key frames in time's session (i think) terms
    Bruce Mowbray: Bye, Darren. . . have a fine weekend.
    Zen Arado: he could sit in the same place all day to get just the right moment to take a photo
    Zen Arado: bye Darren
    Brian Roop: it's like the moment is over before I know it happened
    Eliza Madrigal: laying in wait, Zen...
    Brian Roop: hard to explain
    Zen Arado: yes - it's more a feeling ?
    Brian Roop: not even an awareness
    Eliza Madrigal: instinct?


    Eos Amaterasu: that last 90 secs, BTW, was for me one of those types of moments
    Eliza Madrigal listens
    Eos Amaterasu: & seemed to be for all
    Brian Roop: instinct maybe
    Eden Haiku: remembers being in the pounce of silence and grokking on it :)

    Again a session with so many titles to choose from! Embarrassment of Riches oh what shall I do?!


    Brian Roop: ok someone help me with "grok"
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eos Amaterasu: to get in fullness
    Eos Amaterasu: understand through the gut
    Eden Haiku: means understanding deeply and intuitlively
    Eliza Madrigal: at once? in a flash?
    Bleu Oleander: understand profoundly
    Bruce Mowbray enjoys macro photography of nature -- like close-ups of the edges of leaves, or the antennae of insects, or teensy-weensy lichens growing on a tree's bark.

    --BELL--

    Zen Arado: intuitive awareness?
    Bleu Oleander: new word for me today :)
    Brian Roop: but is that not done through emptiness not fullness
    Brian Roop: ?
    Bleu Oleander: have to slip out ... bye all :)
    Zen Arado: bye Bleu
    Brian Roop: bye bleu
    Eliza Madrigal: (Bye Bleu)

    Eos Amaterasu: the 90 secs is full of the senses and the 10,000 things they clothe

    Eden Haiku: Learnt "grok" just a few minutes ago Brian, don't worry. As well as "pounce". I'm not a native English speaker either, many of us aren't.
    Bruce Mowbray: When doing nature photography, I shift into being the object I am photographing. . .
    Eliza Madrigal: grok is new to many natives too :)

    Alfred Kelberry: zen... it's an interesting distinction between sitting and waiting for the right frame and being on the move in search of it

    Eos Amaterasu: !
    Zen Arado: like being a native
    Bruce Mowbray: I try to Grok the subject (object?) of my imaging.
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eden Haiku: Seems the word is being used only since 1961...:)
    Eliza Madrigal: 'being the storm' Bruce?
    Zen Arado: yes alfred - good point
    Bruce Mowbray: Robert Heinlein -- Stranger in a Strange Land.
    Eden Haiku: Words create images, they carry them...

    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, being the storm, or being the tree, or being the insect,,,,
    Zen Arado: allowing a photo to make itself in a way
    Eos Amaterasu: I think that's what "emptiness" allows, Bruce, Brian: the things, to all just be there
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, giving priority to the image over the photographer.
    Brian Roop: yes in nature photography i think you have to get into the mind of the creature
    Bruce Mowbray: a sort of equanimity -- no preferences or prejudices.
    Eden Haiku: Would you have one of your photos you could share with us Brian?
    Brian Roop: more so in portrait
    Eos Amaterasu: emptiness as enoughness = fullness (eos's theorem)

    Zen Arado: getting the photographer out of the way...

    Eliza Madrigal: :)))
    Eden Haiku: An image being worth a 1000 words...
    Bruce Mowbray would love to see toher's photos (and looks for one of his own.)
    Bruce Mowbray: others'
    Alfred Kelberry: zen, yes... it's amazing how camera changes everything being in the frame if it's being seen :) people sort of used to the eyes, but no lenses.
    Alfred Kelberry: i do have a little discomfort when i notice a cctv gazing at me :)
    Zen Arado: funny how we are so used to the illusion created by photography
    Brian Roop: well nobody likes a stare, whether eyes or camera
    Brian Roop: believe me
    Eden Haiku: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Freud :)
    Bruce Mowbray: Good morning, Freud.
    Freud Jungsten: heya
    Eos Amaterasu: Hi Freud
    Zen Arado: Hi Freud :)
    Eden Haiku: Hello Freud.
    Brian Roop: hi freud

    Alfred Kelberry: brian, i mean, take street photography, for example. you walk and observe people and it's fine, but as soon as you bring a cam to your face, it changes the behavior.

    Eliza Madrigal: we've been discussing photography Freud, and view/viewer
    Brian Roop: indeed
    Zen Arado: like quantum Physics? observing changes things?
    Alfred Kelberry: cam doesn't really have to stare, just a glimpse and click of a shutter is enough
    Brian Roop: but i think it's perceived as a stare
    Alfred Kelberry: zen, yes... this effect is known in many fields under different names
    Alfred Kelberry: in social pshychology it's the hawthorne effect
    Zen Arado: nice Bruce ty
    Freud Jungsten: Thanks.
    Eliza Madrigal: Beautiful, Bruce!
    Zen Arado: ah yes Alf
    Eos Amaterasu: Thnx Bruce.... wow, sticky and all
    Zen Arado: know the origin of that too
    Eden Haiku: Such a nice photo Bruce, thanks. An angel being born?
    Bruce Mowbray: for the record: Bruce just passed around a photo taken two weeks ago of a milkweed pod and an insect climbing on it.

    Eos Amaterasu: that efffect also happens with us all the time, especially in "meditation" :-)

    Zen Arado: interesting parallels here

    Eden Haiku: hehe That's us after the 90 seconds...

    Zen Arado: if we feel we are being observed we adopt a role?
    Eos Amaterasu: maybe we feel we exist or should exist a certain way

    --BELL--

    Bruce Mowbray: wb, Brian. Welcome, Aph!
    Aphrodite Macbain: hello everyone
    Brian Roop: i was crashed
    Freud Jungsten: oisyo
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Aphrodite :)

    Beginner's Mind...


    Alfred Kelberry: zen, i know one subject that's not much effected by the observer effect of the camera and a joy to "work" with - kids :)
    Zen Arado: workers at the Hawthorne plant felt more 'special' and that somebody was interested in them just beacuse their work output was being measured
    Aphrodite Macbain: oisyo Freud
    Brian Roop: i agree
    Brian Roop: with kids it's more like nature work
    Zen Arado: ah could be Alk - kids are less self conscious
    Zen Arado: somebody tell me what oisyo means please :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: hello in cree
    Freud Jungsten: I agree.... getting your picture changes behavior.
    Zen Arado: ok
    Alfred Kelberry: yes, they don't think "oh, how am i going to look on a picture?", "is my hair ok?", etc :)
    Eliza Madrigal: I love to catch an underlayer in a picture...
    Freud Jungsten: When someone tries to take my picture I get physically violent with them.... smiles
    Eliza Madrigal: a 'real' expression
    Freud Jungsten: I am not like that normally.
    Brian Roop: oops i will have to be mor esubtle with freud i guess
    Eliza Madrigal: my greatgrandmother was like that too... always hid from cameras, wish she hadn't :)
    Freud Jungsten: My point being.... lol

    Freud Jungsten: There are both consicous and subconscious changes.
    Freud Jungsten: When being observed... just my thought.

    Zen Arado: I don't like seeing myself when talking to someone on Skype
    Eliza Madrigal: in a photo sometimes the more one tries to put up a facade the more 'that' shows...
    Eliza Madrigal: the trying I mean
    Freud Jungsten: I just don';t like seeingmy legs or my scars.
    Zen Arado: yes - it's forced somehow
    Eliza Madrigal: so how to be natural even when snapped...
    Eliza Madrigal: how not to care :)

    Eos Amaterasu: Yet little children like being watched by their moms, and get nervous when they are not
    Freud Jungsten: Why should you not care though?
    Brian Roop: depends on the photographer's skills
    Aphrodite Macbain: people who are used to being photographed can carry it off

    Brian Roop: catching the person behind the face

    Eos Amaterasu: right here we are each watching all of ourselves on screen

    Zen Arado: it's like 'The Headless Way' - better to see from this vast emptiness on top of your shoulders than be reminded of the image of a head

    Alfred Kelberry: you can often tell that a picture is "unnatural" by the facial expression, body language, etc... it kills the "live" effect, which is why it's crucial to stay unnoticed and let the frames go in their natural order... and then click! it's taken :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: a projection of part of ourselves
    Bruce Mowbray: agrees with Brian -- Child photography is an exact skill.
    Alfred Kelberry: aph, yes, models, actors is another story :) it's part of their habitual behavior
    Brian Roop: one i hasten to add i don't have when it comes to portraits of kids
    Brian Roop: do better with candids

    Eden remarks on an 'osbserver' who often lingers at the edge of the pavllion... One does wonder why they don't just read the wiki ...

    Eden Haiku: I zoomed out during the last pause (interesting view of the pavilion), saw Aphrodite arrive and now seeing our pet-spy lingering at the edge of the pavilion hehe
    Bruce Mowbray: yeppers, that's why I usually photograph plants and other natural phenomena, Brian.
    Eliza Madrigal: heheh
    Aphrodite Macbain: our pet spy?

    Alfred Kelberry: spies is a popular theme lately :)

    Aphrodite Macbain: yes?
    Brian Roop: well candids are not so different from nature photography
    Eliza Madrigal: I spy with my little eye....
    Brian Roop: just move faster
    Brian Roop: but still have to get inside the subject
    Eos Amaterasu is still not grokking "pet spy"

    Bruce Mowbray: I also enjoy photographing people in a city -- with a telephoto lens -- when they have no idea they are being photographed.
    Aphrodite Macbain: I think we judge our outward appearance more harshly than others do
    Eos Amaterasu: (no wonder people in cities have their faces hidden behind raincoat collars)
    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: That'as because of thee rain
    Zen Arado: agree Aphro
    Eden Haiku: Some 'visitor' who lingers around thye pavilion all the time Eos. It bothers me.
    Freud Jungsten: Bruce ... in these parts we call that being a pervert... smiles
    Eliza Madrigal: he may be in your blind spot Eos :)
    Alfred Kelberry: eden, bothers you?
    Eos Amaterasu has zoomed out
    Aphrodite Macbain: I see myself and think "old lady". Others look at the same photo and think "blonde woman"
    Bruce Mowbray: Time for me to move on. . . May all have a fine weekend!
    Eos Amaterasu: Ciao bellisimi, Bruce
    Zen Arado: bye Bruce
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bye
    Yakuzza Lethecus: bye bruce
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bye! Bruce
    Eliza Madrigal: :) Aph... yes funny about that Aph
    Freud Jungsten: Tschusse
    Brian Roop: by bruce, c u later
    Eden Haiku: This was unexpected. Last time, I walked out of the pavilion and found him hiding in the bushes.
    Aphrodite Macbain: Eos! Parli Italiano!
    Eliza Madrigal: someone sent me a pic of myself at 17 this week... I didn't know her
    Freud Jungsten: do na da go hv i
    Alfred Kelberry: eliza :)
    Eos Amaterasu hardly knows any Italian (memories from Felling movies behind the subtitles?)
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes Freud?
    Eos Amaterasu: *Fellini
    Zen Arado: she wasn't you Eliza :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: I kinda like Felling
    Eos Amaterasu: What you could tell her!
    Brian Roop: i grew up around italians, what italian i learned i can't repeat in polite company
    Eliza Madrigal: what I may have, to bring her here... haha
    Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
    Freud Jungsten: Who is polite areound here?
    Brian Roop: other problem is i don't know how to spell any of it
    Eliza Madrigal snorts
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: but we still understand you Brian
    Aphrodite Macbain wonders what Eliza is snorting
    Brian Roop: hmmm, shouldn't make assumptions like that
    Zen Arado: :)

    --BELL--

    Eliza Madrigal: :) a snort is what happens when one is caught off guard by a laugh
    Eliza Madrigal: ;-)
    Aphrodite Macbain snorts silently
    Freud Jungsten: Or with the right recreational pharmisuitcal.
    Eos Amaterasu: thank you, gang of beings!
    Eden Haiku: Have a great week end evryone! bye for now :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: Eden - what are you wearing around your neck?
    Zen Arado: thanks Eliza and everyone
    Yakuzza Lethecus: well, bye everyone
    Brian Roop: enjoyed it, thanks
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bye
    Zen Arado: bye
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bye!
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye everyone! Appreciate you very much
    Eden Haiku: gang of beings hehe, leaving on a snort here...
    Eliza Madrigal: Please join us again Brian
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i hope someone comes to the voice session :)
    Eliza Madrigal: We're here ever 6 hrs :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: keep reappearing!
    Alfred Kelberry: i'm off as well
    Alfred Kelberry: thank you for the company
    Eliza Madrigal: I'd lik to try today Ya
    Yakuzza Lethecus: bye everyone!
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bye
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bye!
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bye
    Aphrodite Macbain: Well, I guess I'm off! Bye! Freud
    Freud Jungsten: Ciao.
    Aphrodite Macbain: ciao ciao
     

    Back to the start of the session which was the end of Time:

     

    Maxine Walden: I have to go, enjoyed this session, and look forward to seeing you all soon
    Maxine Walden: bye all
    Sharry Ragu: :D @ Fefonz
    Pema Pera: bye Maxine!
    Zen Arado: bye Maxine
    Baeric Constantine: Shalom Maxine
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye Maxine :)
    Fefonz Quan: bye Maxine
    Sharry Ragu: wow.. time flies!! by Maxine!
    Bruce Mowbray: FINE session -- Thanks everyone -- May all have a great weekend.
    Eliza Madrigal: yes... fast flying session today
    Sharry Ragu: thank you Bruce, and you as well :))
    Zen Arado: you too Bruce
    Pema Pera: yes, thanks everybody!
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye Bruce :)
    Darren Islar: bye Bruce
    Zen Arado: bye Bruce
    Darren Islar: Maxine and others :)
    Sharry Ragu: thanks Pema, Eliza, Darren :))
    boney Mosely: very interesting thank you all
    Yakuzza Lethecus: bye bruce and everyone who´s leaving
    Sharry Ragu: Fefonz.. John Boy! :))

    Baeric Constantine: it has been a good session today
    Frederica Lexenstar: thank you, this was interesting

    Fefonz Quan: thanks all, have a great weekend
    Bruce Mowbray feels himself shifting roles from Time group to regular PaB session. . .
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hi boxy
    Bleu Oleander: bye all those leaving
    Bruce Mowbray: Hi, Alfred.
    Pema Pera: hi Alfred
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi ALfred :)
    Zen Arado: Hi Alf :)
    Fefonz Quan: _/!\_ Sharry
    Eliza Madrigal: yes, this is the drop time into the 7AM
    Baeric Constantine: Hello Alf and Brian
    Sharry Ragu: Namaste
    Sharry Ragu: Fefonz
    Bruce Mowbray: Bye, Fef!
    Baeric Constantine: Shalom Fef
    Fefonz Quan: Bye all
    Pema Pera: bye Fef!

    Goodness, if one doesn't see all the metaphors and play in this session not much I can do to show them with these little comments! Here comes another title...


    Alfred Kelberry: oh, i'm being greeted even before i myself appear :)

    Zen Arado: bye Fef
    Bleu Oleander: bye Fef
    Alfred Kelberry: thank you all and hello :)
    Baeric Constantine: Its better you yourself appear than you as another appear :)
    Alfred Kelberry: ah, crowdy today :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Brian :) I'll give you a note about our group in IM
    Bruce Mowbray: Join us again Frederica.
    Bruce Mowbray: Welcome, Brian.
    boney Mosely: bye all thank you for letting me come
    Brian Roop: hello all
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey brian
    Bleu Oleander: hi Brian
    Zen Arado: the time travellers are leaving though :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: nice to see you again
    Zen Arado: boarding their Tardis
    Frederica Lexenstar: lol zen
    Alfred Kelberry: ah, it's time session at 6 am, right?
    Baeric Constantine: héhéhé :D
    Zen Arado: next stop RL
    Baeric Constantine: :) Who is that, Zen
    Bruce Mowbray: Hey -- to new-comers: We've just finished a fine session with the Time Magic group -- and we're now transitioning into the regular 7 a.m. PaB session Iin case you're confused).
    Alfred Kelberry: i keep forgetting
    Zen Arado: you never heard of the Tardis?
    Baeric Constantine: I live somewhere between RL and SL
    Pema Pera: :-)
    Yakuzza Lethecus whispers ,,it´s bigger on the inside"
    Baeric Constantine: Zen, you mised it... Who....
    Baeric Constantine: lol Yakku
    Zen Arado: it is Doctor Who's mode of transport
    Zen Arado: a UK based series
    Yakuzza Lethecus: well, i miss david tennand
    Baeric Constantine: Zen, that is why I said Who not who :D
    Zen Arado: agrees with Yaku :)
    Zen Arado: sorry I missed that subtlety Baeric :)
    Baeric Constantine: :) its all good
    Baeric Constantine: Text sometimes misses the verbal expression
    Alfred Kelberry: police box
    Baeric Constantine: irony
    Zen Arado: I spend so much time typing I hardly have time to read :)
    Pema Pera: hahaha
    Baeric Constantine: police box could be a cell :P
    Zen Arado: so slow
    Pema Pera: well, I'll go get some sleep
    Baeric Constantine: me too Zen
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye Pema :) Thanks so much
    Pema Pera: be well, everybody
    Zen Arado: nite Pema :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: night pema
    Pema Pera: hello and goodbye Eos!
    Bleu Oleander: bye Pema
    Bruce Mowbray: THANKS Pema -- byr for now. Have a grand weekend.
    Alfred Kelberry: pema-san
    Sharry Ragu: take care all, sleep awaits :))
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Eos :)
    Frederica Lexenstar: night sharry
    Baeric Constantine: nite all go well
    Eliza Madrigal: Night Sharry
    Zen Arado: Hi Eos
    Yakuzza Lethecus: and night sharry
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hi eos :)
    Alfred Kelberry: eos canon :)
    Zen Arado: nite Sharry
     

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