2010.11.18 19:00 - Ruminating

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Paradise Tennant. The comments are by Paradise, Druth, Ewan, and Rhiannon

    Paradise Tennant: A quiet night I think I will "Rumi" a bit and post favourite excerpts of Rumi’s poetry :)

    On Love

    Love is the cure, for your pain will keep giving birth to more pain until your eyes constantly exhale love as effortlessly as your body yields its scent.

    The Meaning of Love

    Both light and shadow are the dance of Love.

    Love has no cause; it is the astrolabe of God’s secrets.

    Lover and Loving are inseparable and timeless.

    Although I may try to describe Love when I experience it I am speechless.

    Although I may try to write about Love I am rendered helpless; my pen breaks and the paper slips away at the ineffable place where Lover, Loving and Loved are one.

    Every moment is made glorious by the light of Love.

    On Passion
    With passion pray. With passion work. With passion make love. With passion eat and drink and dance and play. Why look like a dead fish in this ocean of God?


    On Appearance

    Drenched in the flood which has yet to come

    I’m tied up in the prison which has yet to exist

    Not having played the game of chess I’m already the checkmate

    Not having tasted a single cup of your wine I’m already drunk

    Not having entered the battlefield I’m already wounded and slain

    I no longer know the difference between image and reality

    Like the shadow I am And I am not

    druth Vlodovic: :) is this a private party, or can anyone join?
    Paradise Tennant: hello
    Paradise Tennant: smiles

    Paradise Tennant: It has been a quiet half hour
    Paradise Tennant: so I have been posting bits of Rumi poetry to fill the time :)
    Paradise Tennant: how are you :)
    druth Vlodovic: Rumi?
    Paradise Tennant: 13th century poet and seer ..
    druth Vlodovic: is there a theme to the order?
    druth Vlodovic: hi Rhi, didn't see you
    Rhiannon Dragoone: hi druth
    Rhiannon Dragoone: yes, I felt like the invisible woman
    Paradise Tennant: hiya Rhia
    Rhiannon Dragoone: hi Paradise
    druth Vlodovic: lol, maybe you can just give me the highlights
    Paradise Tennant: yes very good poet
    Paradise Tennant: live in the 13th century in Persia; believed the path to the divine was love :)
    Paradise Tennant: smiles
    Paradise Tennant: I have one that you would like Rhia one sec :)
    Rhiannon Dragoone: hi Ewan!
    druth Vlodovic: Mr. Bonham
    druth Vlodovic: :) watch the new cushions, they're tricksy
    Rhiannon Dragoone: oh? what do they do?
    druth Vlodovic: they're for minis
    Rhiannon Dragoone: well, glad you don't discriminate
    Rhiannon Dragoone: So Ewan, what's you been up to?
    Paradise Tennant: hiya Ewan :)
    Ewan Bonham: Well, folks, unlike my typical self, I went shopping and got some clothes..
    Paradise Tennant: sl or rl ?
    Ewan Bonham: Not like me to feel attached.
    Ewan Bonham: In sl.
    Paradise Tennant: smiles
    Paradise Tennant: ahh
    druth Vlodovic: nice shirt
    Ewan Bonham: But I thought I would expand my footprint in folks perceptions of me..:)
    Rhiannon Dragoone: Ewan, that's what SL is for.
    druth Vlodovic: Are you going to show us a selection? Or do I need to buttonhole you later?
    Ewan Bonham: Well, you will see it little by little..I did get quite a few things..:)
    Paradise Tennant: smiles a shopping spree :)
    druth Vlodovic: Watch yourself, it gets addictive
    Ewan Bonham: Thank you, Druth, but I feel I got my fill for quite a while..:)
    druth Vlodovic: Did you find the poem paradise?
    Paradise Tennant: no sadly
    Paradise Tennant: Rhia you would have like it .. very well .. it was about shedding our clothes and being :)
    Rhiannon Dragoone: oh, Yeah, I would like that
    Rhiannon Dragoone: Maybe you can send it to me later
    druth Vlodovic: well, in rl it is an interesting sensation
    Rhiannon Dragoone: Shedding clothes and ur pure being; and you see others in a different light; as it brings out the aggressiveness in some, the fun loving spirit in others, when they see you this way
    Paradise Tennant: yes nice to be unbound :) very free :)
    druth Vlodovic: well, I've never shed clothes in front of people, it has always been sort of a private thing
    Ewan Bonham: For me most of the time, I see the spirit beneath the clothes anyway..:)
    Rhiannon Dragoone: Ewan, it challenges ppl to see ur spirit when ur naked
    Paradise Tennant: smiles yes, somehow we all shine through
    Rhiannon Dragoone: All many can see is your body; that's all ppl were seeing my 2nd time here
    druth Vlodovic: Funny, I was thinking earlier today how odd sl is
    Rhiannon Dragoone: sl, odd? naw...
    druth Vlodovic: in rl, I see you, hear you, then your words, then your meanings
    druth Vlodovic: in sl you start with words and meanings
    druth Vlodovic: and images from the person's mind
    Ewan Bonham: And isn't that a natural thing, anyway. Wouldn't it be nice if we did that in rl?
    Paradise Tennant: Yes
    Paradise Tennant: Sometimes I find it a bit surreal
    Paradise Tennant: Well a sense of missing context
    Rhiannon Dragoone: well, druth, but in sl, ppl do take your image as real, the way they do in rl
    Rhiannon Dragoone: I agree, Paradise, there is a sense of missing context
    druth Vlodovic: I like missing the context, it helps you get past the preconceptions, the social noise we carry about
    Rhiannon Dragoone: I've gotten into mis understandings with ppl, cuz they couldn't fathom my context
    Rhiannon Dragoone: And they in turn do things that are bewildering to me, cuz I can't fathom their context
    Rhiannon Dragoone: Or it allows ppl to project their own baggage unto you easier
    Paradise Tennant: and there is a great deal of social noise
    Paradise Tennant: I think this is the one Rhia :)


    A Star Without a Name

    When a baby is taken from the wet nurse, it easily forgets her and starts eating solid food. Seeds feed awhile on the ground, then lift up into the sun.

    So you should taste the filtered light and work your way toward wisdom with no personal covering.

    That's how you came here, like a star without a name.

    Move across the night sky with those anonymous lights.

    Rhiannon Dragoone: its lovely, Paradise
    Paradise Tennant: it was a quiet first half Ewan I was posting poems by Rumi :)
    Ewan Bonham: Oh, I love Rumi..
    Ewan Bonham: Love poems to Spirit..
    Rhiannon Dragoone: I've never read him; I've heard of him but not sure what he writes about
    Paradise Tennant: Yes !
    Paradise Tennant: love .. the path to the divine through love :)
    Rhiannon Dragoone: well, I have to go
    Paradise Tennant: take care Rhia thank you for the conversation :)
    Rhiannon Dragoone: This and the last time I was here has been pleasant; has made up for my unpleasant first experience
    Rhiannon Dragoone: oh, thank you for hosting this
    Rhiannon Dragoone: and for the poem
    druth Vlodovic: bye Rhi
    Rhiannon Dragoone: bye druth
    Rhiannon Dragoone: bye Ewan
    Paradise Tennant: smiles
    druth Vlodovic: ah, I guess I'm off
    druth Vlodovic: thank you for the poetry
    Paradise Tennant: ok
    druth Vlodovic: and your patience
    Paradise Tennant: take care druth thank you :) for the company :)

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