2011.01.08 01:00 - Analytic geometry proves Pinky and the Brain's existence: A session on the meaning of focus, smiling, old movies, etc, etc

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    The (very tardy) Guardian for this meeting was Archmage Atlantis. The comments are by (a sleepy) Archmage Atlantis.

    Comment: "Oops, He did it again" - or was that was Britney, oh well, too much pop culture popping in the brain......with mucho thanks to Pema for filling in :) - [does posting the log fast regain any brownie points?] 

    Yakuzza Lethecus: good afternon
    Pema Pera: hi yaku, good afternoon to you too!
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey lugh
    Pema Pera: hi Lugh!
    Lugh Fehr: how you guys been ?
    Pema Pera: Fine! I just dropped by, saw there was no guardian here, so I claimed the log
    Pema Pera: I hope nobody came during the first twenty minutes of the session
    Pema Pera: and then the two of you dropped by :)
    Lugh Fehr: :)
    Pema Pera: Yaku, how are the voice sessions going?

    --BELL--

    Yakuzza Lethecus: yesterday was pretty well, bertram came as well as aph for a while
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i still suffer a bit from the aspect that i don´t know how to bring good input myself so i brough open questions for a possible discussion
    Yakuzza Lethecus: like ,,what makes a session a good one"
    Yakuzza Lethecus: then we came to the medium of voice itself
    Yakuzza Lethecus: so that actually didn´t became subject
    Pema Pera: a very interesting question -- guaranteed to produce a good session in itself :-)
    Pema Pera: a meta question!
    Yakuzza Lethecus: well, yes it´s kinda selfrefferential
    Yakuzza Lethecus: especially since i am often ,,just sitting around" the circle and not saying anything, when i do that even in my own session i sometimes feel kinda sad about that, but ,,just saying something to say something" isn´t a good idea either
    Yakuzza Lethecus: so the aspect of silence vs forced communication
    Yakuzza Lethecus: often it´s nice that everything is telling me, ,,nice yaku" and so on which i really appreciate even tho that there is often no real subject i shared
    Pema Pera: well, it's wonderful that you took the initiative to start a weekly series of voice talks!
    Pema Pera: that in itself is a major contribution. Thank you for that!
    Yakuzza Lethecus: for me it´s often easier to associate more freely in voice and it´s of course ,,not logged" so the level of privacy and intimacy is higher which helps to communicate better for me.
    Yakuzza Lethecus: it´s also a bit selfish since i rely more on voice since i never wrote as much in my life as i do through sl since i joined it
    Pema Pera: :-)
    Pema Pera: whenever you can do somethng for others which you enjoy yourself too, you are doing a very good "selfish" thing!
    Lugh Fehr: hehe
    Yakuzza Lethecus: well, these ,,win win situations" as some ppl would but em, but actually then comes the aspect of focussing something
    Yakuzza Lethecus: eden had a nice session on monday in which she led reflect everyone on ,,what he thinks play as being means for him"
    Pema Pera: yes, it was the first "Being" theme -- we will do that four times a week now
    Pema Pera: Saturdays, 7 pm, Sundays, 1 pm, Mondays 7 am, Tuesdays 1 am
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey rhi
    Pema Pera: Hi Rhia!
    Pema Pera: Well, I have to run now
    Lugh Fehr: heya rhi byebye pema
    Yakuzza Lethecus: ok, take care pema
    Pema Pera: I wasn't planning to stay here long, but when I noticed nobody was here, I grabbed the log -- I'll post it later
    Pema Pera: bye Lugh, Yaku, Rhia!
    Yakuzza Lethecus: so how have you been lately lugh
    Yakuzza Lethecus: happy new year btw

    Yakuzza Lethecus: good morning arch
    Rhiannon Dragoone: hi Arch!
    Lugh Fehr: same old same old ive been offline for a while
    Yakuzza Lethecus: you don´t have to claim the log anymore arch

    --BELL--

    Rhiannon Dragoone: oh, Happy New Year to you too, Yak
    Lugh Fehr: hehe hyeah happy new year :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: pema has just been here for a few minutes and did it
    Yakuzza Lethecus: but it´s amazing that you get up so early for the session!
    Archmage Atlantis: Hi, waking up
    Archmage Atlantis: one mo
    Yakuzza Lethecus: lugh: btw. do you life in france or on malta
    Archmage Atlantis: Hi, Rhi, Yaku ")
    Lugh Fehr: malta why dose someone wonna trade whit me heheh
    Lugh Fehr: hey arch :)
    Archmage Atlantis: Hi Lugh
    Archmage Atlantis: Oy vey, figurues if I said I'd be awake for sl, my rl body would make other plans :)
    Lugh Fehr: funny fact: do you know that the guy who discovered dna was on lsd when he did so hehe
    Rhiannon Dragoone: You seem to be here all day, Arch; but you missed my discussion. ::frowns:: Had 42 ppl!
    Archmage Atlantis: I had Rhi's session big and bold on my calendar for last nith
    Archmage Atlantis: *night
    Archmage Atlantis: Didn't want to miss my first
    Rhiannon Dragoone: oh, yeah, I had to change it; rl schedule change
    Archmage Atlantis: Met Descartes in 8th grade algebra, learned about his life as a philosopher then
    Archmage Atlantis: Fell asleep before and woke up after
    Archmage Atlantis: Have you been here all along Yaku, or did Wol come and leave
    Rhiannon Dragoone: yeah, so did he; came up with analytic geometry and proofs for god's existence in an oven
    Yakuzza Lethecus: pema was here when i came at 1:25
    Yakuzza Lethecus: but he said he came 20 min after
    Archmage Atlantis: Oh vey, I need an embarassment animation
    Yakuzza Lethecus: no, it´s 4:52 for you
    Rhiannon Dragoone: Arch, i havae one
    Archmage Atlantis: yeppers
    Yakuzza Lethecus: even the aspect of volition is very honorable
    Rhiannon Dragoone: Never use it though; i could model it for you all though
    Archmage Atlantis: That's ok, thanks.......Lugh, I don't think we have met
    Lugh Fehr: i thinck we did but i havent been online for a while :) not sure dogh
    Archmage Atlantis: Ah, that's possible -
    Archmage Atlantis: What was the topic before I ran it aground?
    Lugh Fehr: no topic yet ... i think
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i brought up the aspect of focus in sessions
    Yakuzza Lethecus: before you came with pema
    Rhiannon Dragoone: Yaku, didn't you do that this afternoon, too?
    Archmage Atlantis: Focus is a good topic........topic is probably to focused a word
    Yakuzza Lethecus: yes, well it´s my mayor concern
    Yakuzza Lethecus: because i don´t know how to raise the sessions to a level or if it´s even possible to ,,force a good subject"
    Archmage Atlantis: More a "general gist of the coversation" or for that matter, of life
    Yakuzza Lethecus: pemala is great in creating subjects out of the blue
    Archmage Atlantis: He has years of practice *g*
    Yakuzza Lethecus: even tho the subject she brought in after i tped her yesterday was a bit sad but it´s an important subject as well
    Archmage Atlantis: Oh, Pamela
    Yakuzza Lethecus: but well, where do pabish subjects and and where does philosophy starts
    Yakuzza Lethecus: breast cancer, body ownership
    Archmage Atlantis: They mesh together in my opinion
    Rhiannon Dragoone: Well, i think so; we had a good applied ethics discussion
    Yakuzza Lethecus: yes, i felt about it as being better then sessions that were supposed to be focused about it
    Archmage Atlantis: That is what makes Rhi's philosophy sessions good......all the different viewpoints.....although Rhi does do a lot of prep work to intro them
    Archmage Atlantis: PaB is a different sort of forum
    Rhiannon Dragoone: thank you, Arch
    Yakuzza Lethecus: ppl were kind of in a ,,fresh" associative mind rather then in a "prepared for the session" one

    --BELL--

    Rhiannon Dragoone: Well, there wasn't the depth of a real philosophyy convo; ppl seemed to resist looking at underlying principles, but there was a lot of insightful commentary about emotional issues
    Archmage Atlantis: That's great also, Yaku.....life is part preparation and part inspiration imo, learning that is part of how one continues to evolve personally
    Archmage Atlantis: PaB is the only session I attend where the discussion has no generally announced topic
    Rhiannon Dragoone: got to go
    Rhiannon Dragoone: see you all tomorrow
    Yakuzza Lethecus: bye rhi
    Archmage Atlantis: Take care Rhi
    Rhiannon Dragoone: bye Yaku
    Rhiannon Dragoone: u 2 Arch
    Rhiannon Dragoone: bye Lugh
    Lugh Fehr: bye bye rhi
    Archmage Atlantis: Some sessions, just consist of sitting quietly, and that's ok too
    Archmage Atlantis: Hi, Jan :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey jan
    Jan Qualia: Hiya
    Lugh Fehr: remamber that frase from pulp fiction you know you have a good friend when you can have a moment of silence together whitout small talk bullshit
    Lugh Fehr: heya jan
    Archmage Atlantis: I don't remember it, Lugh, but it makes good sense to me
    Archmage Atlantis: And this place is a good friend, imo
    Lugh Fehr: altho small talk can be nice too
    Archmage Atlantis: Did Pema claim the log, or someone else.........I will if it won't offend whoever stepped ing
    Archmage Atlantis: *in
    Yakuzza Lethecus: yes, sometimes nice accidental learning effects are raising through this
    Yakuzza Lethecus: little smalltalks
    Lugh Fehr: i think pema said he claimed it
    Archmage Atlantis: I grew up thinking small talk was a waste of time......took most of a lifetime to learn different
    Archmage Atlantis: Tks, Lugh
    Jan Qualia: I get bored with smalltalk though
    Jan Qualia: I prefer to discuss deep issues
    Archmage Atlantis: That was me, once, Jan
    Jan Qualia: but that doesn't always go down well with people
    Lugh Fehr: im not a big connesur of small talk but thats one of the resons people tend to stay away from me hehhe
    Archmage Atlantis: I still do like it
    Yakuzza Lethecus: but how to lead everyone into a qualitativly good subject jan ?
    Jan Qualia: a little is ok
    Jan Qualia: philosophers like to debate things too and people don't understand that
    Archmage Atlantis: Well, it helps to have the type of ppl who think of things more widely, not everyone does
    Yakuzza Lethecus: so the aspect of how to transform a deep subject in a way so that you don´t have to be a philosopher in order to understand the subject
    Lugh Fehr: the place i can small talk is in rave parties people are having shamatic expirinces and still manage to just small talk ... and notting moor ... grrr hehhee
    Lugh Fehr: cant *
    Lugh Fehr: i thinck its inpossible yaku
    Archmage Atlantis: I've never been to a rave party, except to see one in the movies
    Lugh Fehr: some people are just sheep beless their souls
    Lugh Fehr: you should go its great fun
    Archmage Atlantis: Some ppl do prefer the safety of following.....IMO, there is room for all of us
    Lugh Fehr: and alot safer then most people thinck

    --BELL--

    Archmage Atlantis: I'm not afraid of going, the opportunity has never presented itself before.......someone invited me drumming by the fire yesterday......I would have gone, but I had another commitment.......which sounds lame since I didn't make it here on time *g*
    Archmage Atlantis: oop [silence self]
    Archmage Atlantis: Oh well, I talked through that 90 seconds .....oops again
    Lugh Fehr: heheehe
    Lugh Fehr: i thinck all the world needs are 500 real people to take over and the rest will just follow you cant theach evry one to be a leader most will just follow
    Lugh Fehr: now wher to find 50 real people
    Lugh Fehr: 500*
    Jan Qualia: or 40 or 10
    Jan Qualia: reminds me of a bibles story
    Lugh Fehr: which one?
    Archmage Atlantis: 50 or 500, if they are real, true to themselves is how I read that, then there will probably be 50 to 500 versions of which way to go
    Archmage Atlantis: yes, which?
    Jan Qualia: something about God wanting to destroy a city because it was so corrupt
    Lugh Fehr: true but 500 ways to go doesnt mean warfare it means diversity
    Jan Qualia: and a prophet pleaded with God to save it if he could find 50 just men
    Archmage Atlantis: sodom and gomorrah?
    Jan Qualia: then he reduced it to 40 , 30, 10
    Jan Qualia: could be
    Lugh Fehr: could he find any?
    Archmage Atlantis: Agree, diversity is the ideal
    Jan Qualia: can't remember
    Lugh Fehr: hehehe
    Archmage Atlantis: Hey, no punchline?? *g*
    Jan Qualia: sorry :)
    Lugh Fehr: people have always been fighting for right to be gay a woman and black and so on butt they never fought for liberty to be anything you pleased
    Archmage Atlantis: It's ok, I know the story :)
    Jan Qualia: Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed anyway
    Lugh Fehr: hehe so i guess no good men
    Archmage Atlantis: Yes, there was 1
    Lugh Fehr: :)
    Archmage Atlantis: Lot and his family were told to leave the city and not look back
    Archmage Atlantis: But his wife did, and was turned into a pillar of salt
    Jan Qualia: yes - remember that
    Jan Qualia: was it same story?
    Archmage Atlantis: Yes
    Lugh Fehr: ahh their was an old movie about this was on tv in chritmass
    Lugh Fehr: i anly say the part wher she turned to stone
    Archmage Atlantis: And Lugh, perhaps it is time for each of us to allow each other to be whatever each individual chooses to be
    Lugh Fehr: yep yep soo.... wonna ttake over the world? hehhee
    Archmage Atlantis: Odd, usually we are more likely to talk about eastern faiths, like buddhism here
    Yakuzza Lethecus: Gee, Brain, what do you want to do tonight?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: The same thing we do every night, Pinky - try to take over the world!
    Jan Qualia: chill out?
    Archmage Atlantis: Although anything that deals with life, or living life, or
    Archmage Atlantis: funny Yaku
    Lugh Fehr: hehehehe
    Archmage Atlantis: :)
    Jan Qualia: :)
    Archmage Atlantis: One of the very few Pinky and the Brain references I know
    Jan Qualia: I have to go
    Jan Qualia: see yah around
    Archmage Atlantis: take care Jan
    Yakuzza Lethecus: take care jan!
    Lugh Fehr: bye jan

    --BELL--

    Archmage Atlantis: Lugh, do you already have the notecard describing PaB's origin and rationale?,,,,I'm giving it to you, just in case, you can discard it if you already have it
    Yakuzza Lethecus: lugh has been here quiet often a time back
    Archmage Atlantis: Ah, I wondered, thank you Yaku
    Yakuzza Lethecus: what i was just thinking about is the aspect of ,,how to find the right amount of sillyness" that is still fine to bring into the circle
    Lugh Fehr: tnx arch sory was awfk
    Archmage Atlantis: np
    Yakuzza Lethecus: well, pinkey and the brain quotes just appear and brining a smile on my face and often on others as well
    Yakuzza Lethecus: when we honostly feel that we have to smile out of any reason, through appreciation of something nice or unexpected, do we drop implicitly there ?
    Archmage Atlantis: imo, and only in imo, yes.....a smile or a laugh take us out of whatever mundane-ness we were ing
    Archmage Atlantis: *in
    Lugh Fehr: laughing is the language of the gods the maya say
    Archmage Atlantis: Mostly because, I suppose, it is spontaneous and unexpected, perhaps
    Yakuzza Lethecus: well, i got to log out, nice to see you both this morning
    Lugh Fehr: and dosnt symbolize anything but itself and no one nows what is funny
    Lugh Fehr: bye yaku
    Archmage Atlantis: We need a few Mayan descendents to take the calendar past 2012 ")
    Archmage Atlantis: Bye Yaku
    Lugh Fehr: yeah i think that is already takin care of :)
    Archmage Atlantis: :)
    Lugh Fehr: mayan shamanisim still alive in the amazon
    Archmage Atlantis: Now that is an interesting topic, mayan shamanism.....tho I didn't know any of those guys had done a calendar update
    Lugh Fehr: i need to run for 5 mins to go to the shop they close in 10 mins hehe be back if you still her if not cya laters mate :)
    Archmage Atlantis: Later then, I have morning chores to do......I look forward to talking again :)
    Archmage Atlantis: Bye Lugh

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