Page last modified 22:20, 23 Jan 2011 by wol

*Wol Euler was guardian for this session, which saw the (silent) return of an old acquaintance.*

Wol Euler: hello claire, happy new year.

Claire Maskelyne: Hi...

--BELL--

Wol Euler: good morning, Arch

Wol Euler: brb, coffee is ready and needs decanting into thermos flask

Archmage Atlantis: Good morning, Wol........coffee sounds good, brb also

Wol Euler smiles

Archmage Atlantis: Ok, the pot is brewing

Wol Euler: :)

Wol Euler: erm, wait, isn't this 4am?

Wol Euler: you'll be awake for good if you drink that

Archmage Atlantis: Yes, by me it is.......

Archmage Atlantis: Actually, that is always an open issue.......I tend to take unexpected random naps during the day and night.......in situ

Wol Euler: yes, I remember you saying that now.

Archmage Atlantis: which isn't bad if I'm in bed or a lounge chair, not so great when standing in the kitchen or in an office chair

Wol Euler: O.O

Archmage Atlantis: What time is it by you?

Wol Euler: 10:15am

Archmage Atlantis: Yes, 10 am is a frequent fall back asleep time for me

Archmage Atlantis: Especially if I'm using my medical equipment *g*........

--BELL--

Archmage Atlantis: Coffee sb done, brb

Wol Euler: a mini-haiku

Archmage Atlantis: Ah, tastes good

Wol Euler smiles and raises her cup in salute

Archmage Atlantis: Do you have Starbucks coffee shops where you live, Wol?......I used to enjoy sitting with a friend, drinking a ridiculously expensive cup of coffee...talking and listening to the music :)

Wol Euler grins and nods. We have htem, yes

Archmage Atlantis: That was pre-economic crisis and physical limitations

Wol Euler: they are expensive here too, but htey seem to do a good business

Archmage Atlantis: Well, they are still trendy a bit.....and the coffee is always good

Wol Euler: they project a "home"-ness that makes people go back

Archmage Atlantis: agree

Wol Euler: well, actually, they are less good outside of NOrth America :) European standards of coffee-making are superior to yours in general

Wol Euler: there are better coffees than Starbucks, but they are being out-competed

Archmage Atlantis: Of course, whenever the financial advisors have anything to say, they tell ppl to make coffee at home instead of paying for Starbucks

Wol Euler: (yours = north america, not you prsonally)

Archmage Atlantis: I understood :)

Wol Euler smiles.

Archmage Atlantis: The only European coffee I have had is Kevalia, I thinkg that is how it is spelled

Wol Euler: that's only good-ish advice IMHO. drinking coffee at home is cheap but misses out on the social interaction

Archmage Atlantis: The best coffee I have had is from the mountains in the Dominican Republic that was brought over by a friend from there

Wol Euler: mmmmm, I can believe that.

Archmage Atlantis: Yes, the social interaction is at least 50%, and maybe more of the pleasure

Wol Euler: economists have trouble with social values, because they can't put prices on them

Wol Euler: or rahter many of htem don't see that interaction HAS a value

--BELL--

Archmage Atlantis: That brings 2 thoughts to mind.....first, there are economists that do try to value in some way social transactions.....and (2) every individual has e's own value

Archmage Atlantis: By that I mean, that individual's own scale of value.......not the individual's value per se

Wol Euler: understood :)

Wol Euler: and yes, I am tarring all economists with a particularly narrrow and sticky brush

Wol Euler: Barry Schwarz, Daniel Kahneman ... there are forces for good there too

Archmage Atlantis: Many moons ago, when you mentioned attending a wedding, and that it had a particularly unique effect......I don't know if you remember that

Archmage Atlantis: I'm not sure if that is a topic for here or not, tho...........but someday I'd be interested in whether that positive result continues to be of value

Archmage Atlantis: Also, do you see Claire?

Wol Euler: yes, she's here :) we are IMing

Archmage Atlantis: Ah, ok.......I wasn't sure as nothing had been said

Wol Euler: we did exchange a greeting but that was just before you got here

Archmage Atlantis: Got it

Archmage Atlantis: np

Wol Euler: [01:35] Arch (archmage.atlantis): I'm not sure if that is a topic for here or not, tho...........but someday I'd be interested in whether that positive result continues to be of value

Wol Euler: that seems a likely topic for a non-themed session, sure

Archmage Atlantis: Another day, then

Wol Euler: or today.

Archmage Atlantis: k

Wol Euler: if you mean the positive value of social interaction e.g. over coffee?

Archmage Atlantis: Yes....that.....and more...but that interaction is at the core of much comfort in rl

Wol Euler: indeed

Archmage Atlantis: and here in sl also

Wol Euler: why would it not continue to be of value?

Archmage Atlantis: Hmmmm, I didn't mean to imply that it would not

Wol Euler reads the question again

Archmage Atlantis: So how about those Yankees?

Wol Euler laughs.

Archmage Atlantis: :)

Wol Euler: erm, they had a great game last time, scored a lot of baskets.

Wol Euler: was that good?

Archmage Atlantis: As good as I could do *g*

Wol Euler: heheheheh

--BELL--

Archmage Atlantis: ty bell :)

Wol Euler: all right, let's add that into your question. There are different kinds of social interaction, or perhaps "depths" is a better word

Archmage Atlantis: Both apply, I think

Wol Euler: sure

Archmage Atlantis: diff kinds and diff depths

Wol Euler: indeed

Archmage Atlantis: I think I'm up for the day......I have a cat looking for breakfast......and I'm need to take care of loose ends from yesterday before my ride is ready to take me to the store today........so I'm going to depart

Archmage Atlantis: Have a wonderful rest of the day, Wol

Archmage Atlantis: Later :)

Wol Euler smiles. Thanks, Arch, and the same to you.

Wol Euler: enjoy your friday.

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