2011.01.22 13:00 - Animals, Retreats and Robots, oh my! : or how fashion can segway into a holy incident, peace, love and being.

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Archmage Atlantis.
    The comments are by Archmage, tree avs are courtesy of Lugh, and pictures are courtesy of SophiaSharon.

    Archmage Atlantis: Hi QtTree of Seasons.jpg


    Archmage Atlantis: I hope you are doing well today Qt :)
    Qt Core: yes, you ?
    Archmage Atlantis: Yes, quite well ty :)
    Archmage Atlantis: Hello Kit :)
    Qt Core: hi Kit, Malissia
    Archmage Atlantis: Hello, Malissia :)
    Malissia Dotcheva: Hi
    Qt Core: hi Sophia
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Qt Arch Kit, Malissia :)
    Malissia Dotcheva: Hi
    Archmage Atlantis: Hi SS
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Lugh
    Lugh Fehr: hellow people :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: wow what an avatar Lugh!
    Archmage Atlantis: Hellow Lugh
    Lugh Fehr: tnx :)
    Malissia Dotcheva: Love the avatar Lugh
    Lugh Fehr: it was like 50 L
    Lugh Fehr: very cheap
    SophiaSharon Larnia: would yo umind if I took your picture? heheh
    Malissia Dotcheva: Cool
    Kit Ciaco: Arch - Is that a kitten on your shoulder?
    Archmage Atlantis: You are truely a master of choosing unique avs Lugh :)
    Archmage Atlantis: It is a white tiger cub, Kit
    Kit Ciaco: or a baby tiger????
    Kit Ciaco: So - Is this bring your pet to Pab day??????
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :D
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I think those are Arch's faithful companions, but feel free :)'
    Archmage Atlantis: Smile......Koya M rides with me everywhere
    Kit Ciaco: LOL!
    Kit Ciaco: My fish goes almost everywhere with me
    Archmage Atlantis: She observes and reports
    Kit Ciaco: but she had a bad attitude earlier so she wa on house arrest
    Archmage Atlantis: Ah
    SophiaSharon Larnia: smiles
    Lugh Fehr: wow cool air fish
    Kit Ciaco: Thanks! It's a gifrt
    SophiaSharon Larnia: have you been here before Malissia?
    Malissia Dotcheva: I'll bring my baby dargon next time lol I feel left out. :)
    Archmage Atlantis: Yes, SS, I asked Malissia earlier
    Malissia Dotcheva: Dragon LOL
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oh. thanks lol
    Kit Ciaco: Maybe I'll ride my horse next time
    Archmage Atlantis: I have a couple of baby dragons also, and a snake, but the dragons have a tendency to fly around, and brown snake likes to comment.....so both interrupt a litte much for here
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :0 I think i saw you riding it around here before
    Kit Ciaco: Yes, he loves to come here!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: thats where i saw you name, im afraid i dont log into sl much during the week
    SophiaSharon Larnia: cool
    Qt Core: i already have to go :-( bye all
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Qt :)
    Malissia Dotcheva: bye
    Archmage Atlantis: Take care Qy
    Lugh Fehr: bye qt
    Archmage Atlantis: qt


    SophiaSharon Larnia: I'm feeling rather sad today because people are arriving at the RL retreat in new orleans today and I'm not there.
    Kit Ciaco: what kind of retreat?
    Archmage Atlantis: The silence was a nice time to think of a beautiful performance I saw on tv
    SophiaSharon Larnia: this particular retreat is an 'urban' retreat, but play as being has RL retreat about every 3 months
    SophiaSharon Larnia: retreats*
    Archmage Atlantis: You have been to retreats before, several time, haven't you SS?
    Malissia Dotcheva: wow that is awesome!
    Kit Ciaco: wow!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: no, just a short mini retreat at Princeton
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes its pretty neat
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oh Lugh
    SophiaSharon Larnia: youve aged a bit hehe
    Malissia Dotcheva: wow Lugh
    SophiaSharon Larnia: what a wonderful avatar
    Archmage Atlantis: I have never been myself, but the feedback I hear is always positive
    Kit Ciaco: That calls to mind the old Barbara Walters classic
    Lugh Fehr: this is anoother av i bouth realy ceap to hehe
    Archmage Atlantis: There are rl and, now in world sl retreats
    Kit Ciaco: What was that she used to ask people about being a tree?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Ive been ambivelent to going before, but right now need the human contact
    Kit Ciaco: understood, ss
    Archmage Atlantis: Right,if you were a tree, what sort of tree would you be :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: a willow
    Kit Ciaco: right~!
    Kit Ciaco: A walnut
    SophiaSharon Larnia: giggles
    Malissia Dotcheva: Oak Tree
    Kit Ciaco: so - we're really just a bunch of nuts????
    Archmage Atlantis: Interesting, I had never thought of the question to apply to myself.....
    Kit Ciaco: Sometimes you feel like a nut... sometimes you don't.....
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ive accepted my nuttiness for the most part :D
    Malissia Dotcheva: LOL
    SophiaSharon Larnia: after who would i be then ?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: aftar all*
    Kit Ciaco: great. Now I've got that jingle in my head....
    SophiaSharon Larnia: heh
    Archmage Atlantis: I might have said an ancient moss covered Live Oak, but an even more ancient Sequoia would be acceptable *g*
    SophiaSharon Larnia: *grins* back
    Malissia Dotcheva: I like the Oak tree because maybe I would wind up as a nice piece of furniture.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: lol
    Lugh Fehr: i would be a carrob
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i like the willow because it bends in the wind
    Kit Ciaco: What's a carrob, Lugh?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: isnt thsat like chocolate?
    Kit Ciaco: And the willow is so graceful, too, SS
    Lugh Fehr: let me check if i got it right in english
    Archmage Atlantis: Hum, if I was going to be converted into furniture, I'd pick hickory, pecan or Brazilian Rosewood
    Lugh Fehr: http://www.google.com.mt/images?q=carob+tree&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=30o7Tcy-HoyeOrnG-

    Kit Ciaco: Oh, I love rosewood!
    Archmage Atlantis: Carrob sounds familiar
    Kit Ciaco: I'd sit on you in a heartbeat!
    Kit Ciaco: That came out poorly, didn't it?
    Lugh Fehr: yup carrob sigra tal harrub
    Archmage Atlantis: Not to me it didn't :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes theyre gorgeous
    Kit Ciaco: Whew!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: shaped by the environment
    SophiaSharon Larnia: (carrob)
    Archmage Atlantis: In the pea family, related to american redbuds and orchid trees......nice
    Lugh Fehr: hey alph
    Malissia Dotcheva: My favorite bush is the Rose of Sharon
    Alfred Kelberry: oops
    Alfred Kelberry: a tree!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Lugh, I want to post you pictures to thins log if thats ok with you :D
    Archmage Atlantis: Hello, Alfred
    SophiaSharon Larnia: boxy! hi :)
    Alfred Kelberry: hello, pablings :)
    Lugh Fehr: hehekk
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ill make a collage of seasons
    SophiaSharon Larnia: if thats ok with arch lol
    Alfred Kelberry: favorite teal key of kit :)
    Archmage Atlantis: Say yes, Lugh, they are really kewl choices
    Kit Ciaco: LOL!
    Kit Ciaco: I worked on your allignment earlier today, Boxy
    Alfred Kelberry: oh, wasn't it too hard?
    Kit Ciaco: not at all!
    Alfred Kelberry: ah, good :)
    Kit Ciaco: Just gotta replace that one blue ball!
    Alfred Kelberry: first you have to make a sound record :)
    Archmage Atlantis: Now that, Kit, was a bit risque :)
    Kit Ciaco: yes - it'll only take about half an hour
    Kit Ciaco: LOL!@
    Kit Ciaco: Sorry
    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    Alfred Kelberry: do you have a studio?
    Archmage Atlantis: :)
    Kit Ciaco: I was talking about the blue ball on the filler notes
    Kit Ciaco: It's brassy


    SophiaSharon Larnia: laughs
    Alfred Kelberry: *hears an owl*
    Archmage Atlantis: (silently attempts to chase my mind out of gutter)
    Alfred Kelberry: lovely flute breaks :)
    Kit Ciaco: Thanks!
    Archmage Atlantis: Hears who?
    Kit Ciaco: I believe I out-did myself on this one!
    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    Alfred Kelberry: kit, how do you record sounds?
    Alfred Kelberry: a simple mike will do?
    Kit Ciaco: I just use the windows sound recorder then convert it to a sav file
    Kit Ciaco: takes about 5 minutes or so, then uploading and such
    Alfred Kelberry: sav?
    Alfred Kelberry: ah, wav
    Kit Ciaco: yes - REAL simple
    Kit Ciaco: and cheap
    Kit Ciaco: I am the queen of cheap!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Kit Ciaco: wav file
    Alfred Kelberry: i call it minimalism :)
    Kit Ciaco: yes!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ive just uploaded premade clips and played with them on audacity
    Kit Ciaco: I love minimalism!
    Alfred Kelberry: yep, me too
    Archmage Atlantis: I call it poverty, but ....
    Kit Ciaco: I make my own sound files from the flutes I build in rl
    SophiaSharon Larnia: nothing as involved as what i think youre talking about :)
    Archmage Atlantis: everything is relative :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: wow
    Kit Ciaco: so I can control the sound better
    SophiaSharon Larnia: very nice
    Kit Ciaco: thanks!
    Malissia Dotcheva: My daughter and I compete as to who can get stuff cheaper lol
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hehe
    Kit Ciaco: Boxy's gonna give us a concert soon - right, Boxy!!>!?!?!?
    Alfred Kelberry: mal, nice game :)
    Alfred Kelberry: um... i might :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia perks up :D
    Alfred Kelberry: teal key!
    Kit Ciaco: You are so onto me, Boxy!
    Alfred Kelberry: just remembered the sound. i like it too :)
    Alfred Kelberry: i like grey as well
    Kit Ciaco: Oh, yes, I like that!
    Alfred Kelberry: this owl must be on lugh's tree :)
    Lugh Fehr: :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oh i want a pictur of that one too :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: move boxy hehehhe
    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: just kidding
    SophiaSharon Larnia: arent i nice
    Alfred Kelberry: charmer :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i have my moments
    SophiaSharon Larnia: todays not one of them, sorry to be rude
    Archmage Atlantis: Hello Stevenaia
    Alfred Kelberry: mal, can you tell more about the "cheap game" you play with your daughter? :)
    Alfred Kelberry: stev!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Stevenaia
    stevenaia Michinaga: hello
    Alfred Kelberry: kit, wouldn't you just love to have such dress in rl? :)
    Lugh Fehr: hellow stev
    Malissia Dotcheva: We just try to out do each other on who can get a detain item the cheapest.
    Alfred Kelberry: mal, like buying milk? :)
    Malissia Dotcheva: Hi stev
    stevenaia Michinaga: :) thx boxy
    Malissia Dotcheva: more like clothing or furniture
    SophiaSharon Larnia: wants to know what the buttons on boxy's back do
    Alfred Kelberry: sophia, a flute :)
    Kit Ciaco: touch one of them, ss
    SophiaSharon Larnia pushs the yellow one
    stevenaia Michinaga: seems I cannot push boxy's buttons...smile
    Alfred Kelberry: *mmms* :)
    Archmage Atlantis: Reminds me, I started watching "Fashion Police".......can be pretty brutal
    SophiaSharon Larnia: me starts puching all of them hehehe
    Alfred Kelberry: stev, please do :)
    Alfred Kelberry: sophia! :)
    Kit Ciaco: stevenaia, just swing your camera view around behind him!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: eep sorry
    Lugh Fehr: coool
    Malissia Dotcheva: That is so true. I believe you can critic someone without being mean or hateful
    stevenaia Michinaga: I see them
    Malissia Dotcheva: I have noticed a lot of television shows glorify hateful and mean spiritness.
    Lugh Fehr: brb
    Archmage Atlantis: Agree, Malissia
    stevenaia Michinaga: the need to judge for the entertainment of others
    Malissia Dotcheva: It is like we have to put someone else down to make us feel good. It is very sad to me.
    Alfred Kelberry: who's to blame is more fun than how to fix it


    Alfred Kelberry: *nods to mal*
    Archmage Atlantis: *[interesting thought topic for silent time:*
    Malissia Dotcheva: Imagine if each one of us took the time to give positive feedback to one person each day how much better the world would be.
    stevenaia Michinaga: I have seen that and it is that simple :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: thats a very good suggestion malissia
    Kit Ciaco: I agree, M!
    Alfred Kelberry: i always give feedback to stev on her lovely dress :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Malissia Dotcheva: I am a huge John Lennon fan:)
    Kit Ciaco: and to boxy for his lovely, ummm, cardoard fashion!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :D
    Alfred Kelberry: hehe
    stevenaia Michinaga: and I can't help but to smile
    Alfred Kelberry: kit, minimalistic as well :)
    Kit Ciaco: yes
    Kit Ciaco: I feel overdressed right now
    Kit Ciaco: I usually go barefoot
    Kit Ciaco: 1
    Malissia Dotcheva: LOL
    Alfred Kelberry: i have a pin button that says "imagine peace" :)
    Alfred Kelberry: it's from yoko's exhibition
    Malissia Dotcheva: Awesome!
    Kit Ciaco: Yes!
    Archmage Atlantis: Actually,Alfred, now that the discussion has turned that way......the look does sort of remind me of that movie with the robot

    left behind on earth......I can't remember it at the momemnt
    Kit Ciaco: ET??
    Kit Ciaco: no
    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    Archmage Atlantis: More recent than ET, and ET was an alien, not a robot
    Archmage Atlantis: Hiya Lucinda
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi lucinda :)
    Malissia Dotcheva: short circuit?
    Kit Ciaco: short circuit was cool, too
    Lucinda Lavender: HI all...
    Alfred Kelberry: i really like the day the earth stood still :)
    Malissia Dotcheva: Hi
    Alfred Kelberry: 1951
    Kit Ciaco: Yeah, that's a classic!
    Alfred Kelberry: kit! oh yes, i remember this one
    Alfred Kelberry: it's from the 80s
    Kit Ciaco: yes - it's so retro!
    Archmage Atlantis: Didn't "The Day..." get redone
    Kit Ciaco: hahahahhahahahaha
    Kit Ciaco: The era of big hair!
    Malissia Dotcheva: LOL
    Alfred Kelberry: yes, arch, with neo :)
    Malissia Dotcheva: Flash dance LOL
    Archmage Atlantis: Klaatu mirimba nictoo...or something like that
    Alfred Kelberry: haha
    Alfred Kelberry: very nice, arch :)

    *Arch finally remembers WALL-E while editing the log (duh) - and then looks up "The Day the Earth Stood Still (1951), remade in (2008) - discovers the correct phrase is "Klaatu barada nikto", for which no translation is ever provided, yet has been described by The Robot Hall of Fame as one ofthe most famous commands in science fiction" and "the most famous phrase ever spoken by an extraterrestrial." Klaatu being the extraterrestrial and Gort being the robot. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Day...ll_(1951_film)]*

    Lugh Fehr: back
    Alfred Kelberry: oh, luci :)
    Lucinda Lavender: yes?
    Alfred Kelberry: hi :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: Hi Chi
    Lucinda Lavender: :) hi
    Chi Aho: Hello, all
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Chi
    Lugh Fehr: hey chi
    Archmage Atlantis: Hello Chi
    Chi Aho: any particular topic today?
    Alfred Kelberry: um...
    Roland Maven: how about the holy instant
    Archmage Atlantis: trees, robots, movies, dresses, frugal shopping
    Lucinda Lavender: listening...and currious about it...
    Archmage Atlantis: complements and kindness
    Archmage Atlantis: big range
    Roland Maven: currious about?
    Lucinda Lavender: holy instant...
    Roland Maven: ok
    Roland Maven: can I share with the group
    Chi Aho: Is the holy instant the instant when you realize there is a godness to the cosmos?
    Kit Ciaco: and nuts
    Archmage Atlantis: Please do
    SophiaSharon Larnia: giggles at Lucinda
    Kit Ciaco: The holy instant may be right now
    Lugh Fehr: hehee
    Roland Maven: The holy instan is the holy spirits most useful learning device for teaching us loves meaning
    Roland Maven: For it's purpose is to suspend judgement entirely
    Roland Maven: Yes, righ now :)
    Kit Ciaco: Do you make a distinction between judgment and discernment?
    Alfred Kelberry: another term for dropping? :)
    Malissia Dotcheva: `You mean like faith?
    Roland Maven: Like the moment of being totally present
    Roland Maven: without past thoughts nor future
    Archmage Atlantis: A moment of clarity, perhaps.
    Malissia Dotcheva: Faith!
    Kit Ciaco: now
    Roland Maven: not faith, but being
    Roland Maven: being totally free
    Kit Ciaco: sane difference, Ro
    Lugh Fehr: moving between realaty and the world of oz?
    Malissia Dotcheva: isn't faith - being?


    Roland Maven: Just being present
    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    Roland Maven: Imagine just being present to creation - without all the past to determine your future
    Roland Maven: I think Faith is faith in something one cannot see
    SophiaSharon Larnia: listening
    Roland Maven: being is being Present with what is right here
    Kit Ciaco: now
    Roland Maven: Being open to trying new things without fear for instants
    Archmage Atlantis: I think, in most aspects, that is how the concept of PaB came into being.......a moment taken in a busy day to just exist, to

    just be
    Roland Maven: Being present for someone fully
    Roland Maven: Being present to Love rather than fear
    Kit Ciaco: good point, Arch
    Lucinda Lavender: :)
    Roland Maven: Nice
    Lugh Fehr: as they say you cant run from now all you can do is remember the past now
    Malissia Dotcheva: true
    Alfred Kelberry: roland, in this framework where no past records, nor future assumptions, fear steps aside indeed :)
    Archmage Atlantis: Hello Violadimare
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Violadimare
    Roland Maven: Yes, I think
    Violadimare Resident: HI
    Roland Maven: If I understand you correctly -
    Lugh Fehr: hi vola
    Roland Maven: It's about Love
    Roland Maven: Being able to experience love fully - without fear thoughts
    Malissia Dotcheva: Back to John Lennon and peace we were talking about that before.
    Kit Ciaco: you're right, M!
    Roland Maven: :)
    Kit Ciaco: Imagine!
    Malissia Dotcheva: There are so many ways that one can understand love and peace ism't there?
    Roland Maven: Yes
    Malissia Dotcheva: Isn't
    Kit Ciaco: agreed, M
    Alfred Kelberry: love is real...
    Alfred Kelberry: real is love...
    Kit Ciaco: music is real
    Malissia Dotcheva: Awesome Boxy!! It sure is!!
    Violadimare Resident: I am new… I say to me
    Lucinda Lavender: thinking about how when we are sitting comfortably it is a sitting of love...and when we are sitting in fear ....not sure maybe

    love seems veiled
    Roland Maven: We are real
    Kit Ciaco: some of us are
    Kit Ciaco: some are not
    Roland Maven: :)
    Kit Ciaco: some are self defined as being "fake"
    Alfred Kelberry: kit :)
    Malissia Dotcheva: My son in law got a framed quote that states Music is what feelings sound like
    Kit Ciaco: Oh, I like that, M
    SophiaSharon Larnia: nice
    Alfred Kelberry: yes, a language of soul
    Lugh Fehr: haha nice
    Malissia Dotcheva: I mean on SL we can pretend to be anything that we want to be It does not mean that it is real
    Kit Ciaco: I wonder
    Kit Ciaco: perhaps for that moment is IS real?
    Alfred Kelberry: either you pretend or not, it's still real :)
    Roland Maven: I agree alfred
    Malissia Dotcheva: The emotions I would think
    Lugh Fehr: sl is a real virtual realalaty
    Alfred Kelberry: perception may differ
    Chi Aho: I don't see how anyone would define him/herself as "fake"; are there examples?
    Kit Ciaco: fascinating, Boxy!!!
    Kit Ciaco: I like that
    Lugh Fehr: what is not realany way
    Kit Ciaco: yes
    Kit Ciaco: I'm working with a young man right now who describes himself as being fake
    Kit Ciaco: because he lives a lie to everyone
    Kit Ciaco: puts on a front that is very much not consistent with his self image
    Kit Ciaco: so he calls himself a fake
    Malissia Dotcheva: I wish that I( was a young blonde again but it is not so I also like to dress up as the grim reaper but it is not who I am
    Chi Aho: must have read Catcher in the Rye
    Alfred Kelberry: fake is when expectation does not match perception :)
    Kit Ciaco: Yes - I've thought that as well!
    Kit Ciaco: yes, boxy
    Kit Ciaco: I think so, too
    Roland Maven: Peace
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Roland thank for sharing
    Archmage Atlantis: bye Roland
    Malissia Dotcheva: Bye Roland
    Kit Ciaco: bye Roland
    Lucinda Lavender: bye Roland...thanks for the instant...
    Lugh Fehr: bye roland
    Malissia Dotcheva: Awesome Lugh
    Kit Ciaco: COOL, Lugh!!!!!
    Lugh Fehr: eat me!
    Malissia Dotcheva: LOL
    Kit Ciaco: LOL!!!!!!
    stevenaia Michinaga: I must beoff to dinner, speaking of eats :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: bye all
    Lugh Fehr: byebye
    Archmage Atlantis: Bye to all
    Lucinda Lavender: bye Steve:)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Steve!
    Malissia Dotcheva: bye steve
    Alfred Kelberry: mmm, dinner sounds good :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: and bye all !!! Eliza says hello!! Talking to her on the phone
    Malissia Dotcheva: I am hungry
    SophiaSharon Larnia: laughs!!
    Archmage Atlantis: :)
    Alfred Kelberry: ah, say hi to our leggy eliza :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: b4n


    SophiaSharon Larnia: theyre ok
    Violadimare Resident: lait,honey and biscuits
    Violadimare Resident: ????
    Kit Ciaco: I gotta scoot, folks! Thanks for a fun hour! And such wonderful music! LOL!!!!!!
    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    Archmage Atlantis: :)
    Kit Ciaco: S'long!!!!
    Malissia Dotcheva: Bye Kit
    Lucinda Lavender: bye Kit !
    Lugh Fehr: byebye
    Archmage Atlantis: *nod*
    Chi Aho: Arch, I would be interested in hearing about transhumanism some time.
    Archmage Atlantis: Certainly Chi
    Archmage Atlantis: I'll send you a notecard with some websites and other info
    Chi Aho: Thanks. I have read one of Ken Wilbur's books
    Archmage Atlantis: Well my rl cat thinks it's dinner time, regardless of what I am doing
    Alfred Kelberry: um, maybe we should make a "holy instant" moment during a session when no past or future influence us? meaning no chatlog :)
    Chi Aho: Thats what the 90 seconds are for!
    Archmage Atlantis: He has the habit of walking across my fingers on the kb :0
    Archmage Atlantis: Later guys
    Chi Aho: later, Arch
    Lucinda Lavender: Hi Eliza:)
    Alfred Kelberry: chi, but chatlog peeks into the future and stays in the past
    Lugh Fehr: bye arch ey eliza
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi all :))
    Malissia Dotcheva: hi
    Alfred Kelberry: eliza! :)
    Chi Aho: hi, Eliza
    Archmage Atlantis: gota go, losing the fight here
    Archmage Atlantis: later
    Lugh Fehr: hehehe
    Lucinda Lavender: bye Arch:)
    Alfred Kelberry: cat wins!
    Lugh Fehr: byebye
    Malissia Dotcheva: Bye
    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    Malissia Dotcheva: Bye everyone it was nice to meet ya'll. I must go fix supper.
    Chi Aho: bye for now
    Alfred Kelberry: bye, mal. say hi to your daughter :)
    Lugh Fehr: ah shap its broken byebye
    Lugh Fehr: sham*
    Lugh Fehr: x)
    Alfred Kelberry: ok, i'll go eat as well :)
    Lucinda Lavender: bye Mallisia
    Lugh Fehr: byebye
    Alfred Kelberry: *strokes his cardboard tummy*
    Alfred Kelberry: thank you for the company
    Eliza Madrigal: bye all :)) nice to see you all....
    Chi Aho: eat yo broccali
    Lucinda Lavender: bye Boxy:)
    Lugh Fehr: :Dbyebye i go eat too
    Lucinda Lavender: LL is trying to think of what to say today...
    Lucinda Lavender: Chi have you been here before?
    Lucinda Lavender: I thought probably so
    Chi Aho: Oh, yes. I was going to suggest you tell us your definition of love
    Lucinda Lavender: nice question...
    Lucinda Lavender: in my body it is kind of like a welling up of feeling...it seems...
    Chi Aho: ah, emotion
    Lucinda Lavender: appreciation is one word that comes to mind
    Chi Aho: yes


    Lucinda Lavender: feel thaI like and study music and dreaming...
    Lucinda Lavender: this kind of study is one that gathers a certain sense of being supported for certain ways of knowing
    Chi Aho: I don't quite get your meaning here
    Lucinda Lavender: I think I sense love through music and through dream study
    Lucinda Lavender: going to a unifieds place in sound
    Chi Aho: I see; for you then it is an emotional, perhaps also a spiritual experience
    Lucinda Lavender: spiritual yes...and through the emotional connection the spiritual opened up
    Lucinda Lavender: how about you?
    Chi Aho: I hadn't thought about it the way you describe it
    Chi Aho: I see it as an activity; something that we do
    Chi Aho: It is giving primarily, but also...
    Chi Aho: sharing, caring, having compassion, showing empathy, listening, being tender, warm
    Chi Aho: something that we do
    Lucinda Lavender: nodding
    Chi Aho: to me all part of emotional development (see 1st life profile)
    Lucinda Lavender: I see:)
    Chi Aho: BTW, someone taught me that; it isn't mine really
    Lucinda Lavender: yes...ok
    Chi Aho: I've incorporated that teaching into my thinking; my rl gf taught me that
    Lucinda Lavender: lovely...
    Chi Aho: true
    Chi Aho: She said "Its easy - love is something that you do."
    Lucinda Lavender: I have had the opportunity to meet many children through work and it is a place where I get to see their natural desire for

    sharing, caring, etc
    Chi Aho: Yes, I believe that with children this comes naturally, but later we learn to be more egocentric
    Lucinda Lavender: we spend a great amount of the year woring on helping them see what makes a friend..

    Lucinda Lavender: some words can be"too strong" and we hjelp them to write notes about their concerns...their needs...
    Chi Aho: interesting
    Chi Aho: We all need to be conscious of the fact that other people have their own wishes, desires, ambitions, hopes, dreams....etc.
    Chi Aho: not to speak of needs
    Lucinda Lavender: yes...giving them the sense that their experience is important...and can be used to draw them closer to what might need to be

    changed...in hope that it will become softer easier to navigate
    Chi Aho: You know the concept of narcissism is widely misunderstood by the public; the narcissist does not see other people this way, but instead

    seees them as an extension of himself/ herself
    Chi Aho: He or she knows in a vague way that other people do indeed exist in their own right, but so far as he/she is concerned they, if they are in

    the picture at all, exist for the narcissist.
    Lucinda Lavender: ah...yes
    Chi Aho: So they think nothing at all of using other people
    Chi Aho: for whatever they may have in mind or for whatever they may need
    Lucinda Lavender: not very healthy for development...
    Chi Aho: It is a kind of self love
    Chi Aho: but more importantly it is a neglect of others who should count for the person
    Chi Aho: those others go without the love that they need
    Lucinda Lavender: a way of not really seeing the others....sad really
    Chi Aho: yeah, that is exactly what is involved here
    Chi Aho: When you really love another, your focus is totally on them.
    Lucinda Lavender: I do not know much about it but imagine it is highly confusing...
    Chi Aho: When you move out of their lives, for them it is as though you don't exist - you do in a vague sense, but not with any emotional impact

    upon the narcissist.
    Chi Aho: They don't know how to love.
    Chi Aho: Thank God someone taught me; I hadn't learned - my own mother was as narcissistic as a person could be.


    Chi Aho: For one period, when I moved about 1000 miles away from her home she did not call or write me for 7 years.
    Lucinda Lavender: unreal sort of situation for her....and now it is different for you thankfully
    Chi Aho: Yes, thank you. It is very different now. Love is such a need, a strong need that people have, and often unmet.
    Lucinda Lavender: It is wonderful that you are headed toward a knowlege of love as you are...happy for this...I will need to leave shortly...
    Chi Aho: Yes, I understand. I also need to go. It is after 6 p.m. here
    Lucinda Lavender: people are so very strong ...pictures can change...
    Chi Aho: ?
    Lucinda Lavender: like for you...learning...
    Chi Aho: Oh, you mean as the picture changed for me
    Lucinda Lavender: yes
    Chi Aho: Yes.
    Chi Aho: Well, I will go on now too.
    Chi Aho: Will see you here again, I am sure.
    Lucinda Lavender: yes:)
    Chi Aho: Bye for now
    Lucinda Lavender: it is a frequently inhabited place by me:)
    Chi Aho chuckles
    Lucinda Lavender: good evening to you:)
    Chi Aho: and to you
    Lucinda Lavender: thnaks:)

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