2011.01.28 07:00 - Lively Up Yourself

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    The guardian for this session was Eliza Madrigal, who posted this log from the PlayasBeing New Orleans retreat! :) I was singing the song wrong but like my "typo".

    This entire session was alternatively titled: "I think I Need Community"

    Ana Hinchcliffe: bye
    Bleu Oleander: bye those leaving
    Jan Qualia: bye to leavers
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I want to stay but have to go back to work now :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye Sharon, glad you could pop in
    Jan Qualia: give me link Pema?
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Bleu Oleander: bye Sharon
    Eliza Madrigal: Ana, tell me about the memorial?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: wanted to hear frim the new orleans retreater!
    Jan Qualia: bye Sharon
    SophiaSharon Larnia: +s
    SophiaSharon Larnia: smiles
    Eliza Madrigal: :)) Sharon, nice to connect and wave
    SophiaSharon Larnia: laughs
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye for now
    Ana Hinchcliffe: it is a memorial for those who commit suicide or are murderer because they are transgerder
    Ana Hinchcliffe: murdered
    Eliza Madrigal: ah, thanks... not sure too many know of that... wonderful that SL can allow people to create a place like that...
    Ana Hinchcliffe: i talked to a woman who is a transgender.
    Ana Hinchcliffe: she had her female part removed
    Ana Hinchcliffe: and received injections of testoterone
    Ana Hinchcliffe: still, she is a woman
    Ana Hinchcliffe: Transgender Hate Crime and Suicide Memorial
    Eliza Madrigal: thank you
    Ana Hinchcliffe: that'sthe right name of the memorial
    Jan Qualia: start to wonder how you define 'woman' then
    Ana Hinchcliffe: i have the land if you wnat
    Eliza Madrigal: sure, thanks
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hi riddle
    Pema Pera: hi Riddle!
    Bleu Oleander: hi Riddle
    Jan Qualia: Hi Riddle
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Riddle :))
    Riddle Sideways: Hi Jan, Ana, Bleu, Yak, Eliza, Pema
    Eliza Madrigal: dazzling as always
    Jan Qualia: ty Ana
    Riddle Sideways: ty
    Ana Hinchcliffe: after hearing this woman..
    Riddle Sideways: :)
    Ana Hinchcliffe: i don't now how to define woman
    Eliza Madrigal: people are so incredibly individual...
    Bleu Oleander: don't we all define it differently?
    Ana Hinchcliffe: all I know is that what they suffer is inhuman
    Ana Hinchcliffe: someone asked how to define
    Jan Qualia: society is so harsh on those who are different
    Pema Pera is quietly slipping out . . . .
    Ana Hinchcliffe: [07:04] Jan Qualia: start to wonder how you define 'woman' then
    Bleu Oleander: we all fall into that "different" category
    Pema Pera: (good seeing you all)
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye Pema, thanks :)
    Bleu Oleander: bye Pema
    Riddle Sideways: bye Pema
    Eliza Madrigal: Ana, yes the context is important too...
    Jan Qualia: bye Pema
    Ana Hinchcliffe: bye Pema
    Eliza Madrigal: the context of the conversation was "nothing is missing"
    Ana Hinchcliffe: sorry
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh, not at all...
    Eliza Madrigal: we were musing on, if nothing is missing,
    Eliza Madrigal: then how would that express itself... would we be caught in any role?
    Eliza Madrigal: gender or otherwise?
    Eliza Madrigal: and if not...
    Eliza Madrigal: what does that mean?
    Eliza Madrigal: Or at least that seemed the question to me
    Eliza Madrigal: so your experience is quite relevant...
    Eliza Madrigal: a sense of people changing or fixing things...
    Eliza Madrigal: which may be an expression of perfection
    Bleu Oleander: it means to me that we can "play as if" but always realizing it is play
    Yakuzza Lethecus: in order to play we have to switch off our thinking mind ?
    Eliza Madrigal: or may be a struggling for validation
    Eliza Madrigal nods
    Eliza Madrigal: I like 'suspend' too, Ya...
    Bleu Oleander: maybe by playing we lighten the load over time
    Eliza Madrigal nods Bleu.
    Yakuzza Lethecus: thoughts on needs are dominant in my daily thiking, even how to gain the ability to communicate ,,not needing anything"
    Eliza Madrigal: Eos has been singing "lighten up yourself" a lot this week
    Eliza Madrigal: hehe
    Bleu Oleander: hehe
    Riddle Sideways: Hi Sun and Lugh
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hi sun and lugh
    Sunshine Vayandar: hi Riddle ;)
    Eliza Madrigal: so we play as if nothing is missing and allow ourselves to be surprised
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Lugh, and Hi Sunshine :))
    Lugh Fehr: hellow people :)
    Bleu Oleander: take care everyone .... bye for now :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: bye bleu
    Jan Qualia: Hi Lugh, Sunshine
    Lugh Fehr: byebye bleu
    Eliza Madrigal: speaking of enlightenment....
    Eliza Madrigal: hehe
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye Bleu :))
    Riddle Sideways: by blu
    Jan Qualia: bye Bleu
    Eliza Madrigal: another wild and wonderful presentation Lugh!!
    Lugh Fehr: :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i always fear that in play as just being i just let go and drift through my habits but when i don´t like the habits i have i don´t like to just do so
    Yakuzza Lethecus: my rational mind tells me in which direction i should change my habits
    Jan Qualia: just seeing is often enough....
    Eliza Madrigal: !
    Eliza Madrigal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDnNq...E&feature=fvst
    Yakuzza Lethecus: not availibble in germany
    Lugh Fehr: yeey
    Eliza Madrigal: ah, you may want to google bob marley "lively up yourself"
    Eliza Madrigal: Sometimes the imagery I have is of holding the rational thinking in a much larger pool....
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Corvi :))
    Eliza Madrigal: (sorry bell)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey corvi
    Riddle Sideways: wow yak, germany bans Bob Marley?
    Eliza Madrigal: so it (the rational thinking) is there, but it isn't seen as the point
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: Hi everyone
    Jan Qualia: Hi Corvi
    Riddle Sideways: Hi Corv
    Lugh Fehr: hey cor
    Eliza Madrigal: it is just 'one thing' in a million resources
    Jan Qualia: I got it ok
    Yakuzza Lethecus: riddle it containted content of ,,UMG" so it´s because of copyright
    Jan Qualia: am 'livelying up myself
    Lugh Fehr: what we need is an art form to change our habbits and it would be very nice
    Eliza Madrigal: the lyrics of this song say 'don't be no drag'
    Eliza Madrigal giggles
    Eliza Madrigal: we're dropping the drag
    Jan Qualia: thought I put it on :)
    Riddle Sideways: wb sun
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Sunshine! Welcome back :)) We are jamming to Bob Marley and livening up ourselves... hehe
    Sunshine Vayandar: omg really
    Eliza Madrigal: YES
    Lugh Fehr: wb sun hehe
    Sunshine Vayandar: I am back from the bush
    Sunshine Vayandar: my fav song to play on the guitar
    Eliza Madrigal: seems appropriate for your arrival since you and I were enlightened together the other day, haha
    Sunshine Vayandar: exactly
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;) that was a bright day
    Eliza Madrigal: :) You play guitar too?
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: can one have enlightenment parties?
    Riddle Sideways: enlighten up yerself
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: in celebration!
    Lugh Fehr: hehee cool howd did you do that
    Eliza Madrigal: YES!!
    Lugh Fehr: ?
    Eliza Madrigal: love that idea Corvi...
    Jan Qualia: you don't need them any more :)
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
    Eliza Madrigal: that is truly playing as if nothing is missing
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: hehee
    Eliza Madrigal: celerating what is
    Eliza Madrigal: what is here
    Sunshine Vayandar: enlightenment parties?
    Eliza Madrigal: and one another in that :)
    Eliza Madrigal: as that :)
    Sunshine Vayandar: hi everyone ;)
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: heya
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Sunshine Vayandar: was waiting for my hair ;)
    Sunshine Vayandar: and rest of body
    Jan Qualia: we're discussing this at Wok next week
    Sunshine Vayandar: yes I am looking forward to that
    Eliza Madrigal: yes? Missed yesterday... though nothing is missing...
    Jan Qualia: :)
    Jan Qualia: you lost a day?
    Sunshine Vayandar: it was my first time there
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: misplaced one?
    Eliza Madrigal: when we say namaste, we're basically celebrating one another's 'enlightenment'
    Jan Qualia: didn't know that
    Eliza Madrigal: well, it can be "I honor the divine in you"
    Jan Qualia: I'm Zen's alt in case anyone doesn't know
    Lugh Fehr: hey zen
    Jan Qualia: his cuter side
    Jan Qualia: :)
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: :)
    Ana Hinchcliffe: thank you all. I have to go.
    Ana Hinchcliffe: ã‹¡
    Sunshine Vayandar: byebyee Ana ;)
    Jan Qualia: bye Ana
    Yakuzza Lethecus: take care ana
    Eliza Madrigal: I'm going to have to go in a moment, as we begin our 'practice session' of the retreat in just a few minutes...
    Lugh Fehr: byebye an
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye Ana, thanks for coming and sharing
    Lugh Fehr: byebye
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: bye, Eliza
    Sunshine Vayandar: nice to catch you here Eliza
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: bye ana
    Jan Qualia: bye Eliza
    Sunshine Vayandar: have a great session
    Eliza Madrigal: So wonderful to 'see' everyone
    Jan Qualia: have a good practice
    Yakuzza Lethecus: yes, have a great session retreaters
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
    Eliza Madrigal: Thanks :) BIG HUGS from New Orleans!!
    Sunshine Vayandar: hugs back from africa ;)
    Riddle Sideways: bye bye to New Orleans
    Sunshine Vayandar: Jan so you are Zen - who was there yesterday?
    Jan Qualia: Zen was
    Sunshine Vayandar: at 2pm
    Sunshine Vayandar: to me everyone is new
    Riddle Sideways: to me too
    Jan Qualia: I met you at perfect paradise the other sunday
    Jan Qualia: Bertram#s meditation
    Sunshine Vayandar: ohhh kkk
    Jan Qualia: as Zen
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
    Sunshine Vayandar: nice to see ppl in other sims
    Jan Qualia: trying life as a young woman
    Sunshine Vayandar: can't see u
    Jan Qualia: why?
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: welcome, Jan.
    Sunshine Vayandar: brb phone
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: to life as a young woman
    Jan Qualia: thanks Corvi
    Jan Qualia: am settling into it well :)
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: smiles.
    Riddle Sideways: zen is the av the conjurs the typed words. Jan is the one that 'la de da's her typing :)
    Jan Qualia: yes - I'm pretty cool
    Yakuzza Lethecus: my mind always seems to seek for ,,not completeness" it´s hard to get out of that pattern and not to see ,,problems"
    Lugh Fehr: hehehe
    Jan Qualia: maybe it is if you think it is
    Riddle Sideways: yes yak, we all sort of do that
    Sunshine Vayandar: brb
    Riddle Sideways: big point , is to reverse the thinking. we know nothing is missing, but we play hunting the missing
    Riddle Sideways: take the whole apart to look at the parts
    Jan Qualia: a feeling of 'something is wrong with me'
    Riddle Sideways: do that so often it becomes home
    Lugh Fehr: :) we should turn that into a science
    Riddle Sideways: :) too late, it already is sci
    Jan Qualia: :)
    Sunshine Vayandar: back ;) I am tring to see if I can see better
    Jan Qualia: I can see you perfectly
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
    Riddle Sideways: knowing there is nothing wrong or missing is hard. so we play that we are not
    Riddle Sideways: whole and concentrate on little parts
    Jan Qualia: maybe it needs a more proactive approach
    Jan Qualia: like practicing the lojong slogans
    Jan Qualia: sometimes I pick one and think of it during the day
    Sunshine Vayandar: lojong slogans?
    Jan Qualia: like ;Be grateful to everyone'
    Sunshine Vayandar: sounds like a plan
    Riddle Sideways: sometimes put it into a song and sing it all day
    Jan Qualia: http://lojongmindtraining.com/
    Sunshine Vayandar: ty Jan ;)
    Riddle Sideways: that song that is stuck in your head
    Sunshine Vayandar: or like "lively up yourself - don't be no draaag "
    Riddle Sideways: yes
    Jan Qualia: yes - that too :)
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
    Riddle Sideways: sing that all day and the world WILL be different
    Lugh Fehr: like the roll roll roll you bought thing
    Sunshine Vayandar: looks very interesting Jan
    Sunshine Vayandar: that website
    Jan Qualia: Tibetan buddhism seems to use more practices than Zen
    Jan Qualia: Zen seems more about just sitting and seeing
    Riddle Sideways: after you practice and practice is it time to play (yet)
    Jan Qualia: some are about play :)
    Lugh Fehr: practise is part of play :)
    Jan Qualia: there's one about lightening up
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
    Riddle Sideways: does it have a good beat?
    Jan Qualia: :)
    Lugh Fehr: maby the old europron incantatitons where like the slogens but then lost their meaning in time
    Lugh Fehr: like abracatabra
    Lugh Fehr: be gone
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
    Lugh Fehr: like the bell in pavolos dog thig
    Jan Qualia: I don't know
    Jan Qualia: and that is the best way
    Lugh Fehr: but thats like being constantly at sea whitout ever thouching land
    Jan Qualia: yes
    Riddle Sideways: yeah, you got it
    Sunshine Vayandar: what do u mean Lugh
    Jan Qualia: groundlessness
    Sunshine Vayandar: never in control?
    Lugh Fehr: yeah but the land is butiful too
    Lugh Fehr: why leave altogethr why not build a summer home
    Jan Qualia: think so Sun
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
    Riddle Sideways: control is overrated
    Jan Qualia: build a little secure spot Lugh?
    Sunshine Vayandar: hmm yes
    Lugh Fehr: you can creat a good dream and dream it and then stop for a while but youl need to knoow how to create and amend dreams
    Jan Qualia: life is always changing
    Sunshine Vayandar: once you are at sea - there is no coming back hmm or is there
    Lugh Fehr: not secure
    Jan Qualia: everything is changing
    Jan Qualia: so no security
    Riddle Sideways: one thought is you can never go home
    Lugh Fehr: a little less intense vivs its a question of taste some like only coffe some like only sugar some like both
    Riddle Sideways: another thought is you can go anywhere
    Sunshine Vayandar: I like that more Riddle ;)
    Jan Qualia: maybe everything is a dream
    Riddle Sideways: oops did not hear beel
    Lugh Fehr: i thinck haveing like a yoga but for the mind is very good for humans
    Jan Qualia: http://lojongmindtraining.com/Commen...or=3&proverb=2
    Riddle Sideways: Jan, that is exactly what has been happening this week
    Riddle Sideways: dreams, dreams, everything is a dream
    Jan Qualia: at the retreat?
    Riddle Sideways: don't like nightmares, so change them
    Riddle Sideways: no, just in riddle's realm
    Lugh Fehr: yes exectly riffle
    Jan Qualia: or realize they are just thoughts
    Riddle Sideways: same
    Sunshine Vayandar: "That's the essential meaning of the absolute Bodhicitta slogans - to connect with the open, spacious quality of your mind, so that you can see that there's no need to shut down and make such a big deal about everything."
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
    Jan Qualia: yes !
    Sunshine Vayandar: it's like that video yesterday
    Jan Qualia: yes that too
    Sunshine Vayandar: about the couple making such a drama
    Riddle Sideways: which yesterday
    Sunshine Vayandar: about the shop not being open
    Jan Qualia: about the shop not being open
    Sunshine Vayandar: and then they dropped it
    Jan Qualia: snap
    Sunshine Vayandar: and it was all gone
    Jan Qualia: :)
    Lugh Fehr: its like we have this butiful tv but no remote
    Lugh Fehr: 1 channel
    Sunshine Vayandar: hehe ;)
    Jan Qualia: have to throw away the remote
    Riddle Sideways: :) yes that may be it
    Lugh Fehr: why?
    Jan Qualia: stuck in Channel 1
    Riddle Sideways: two good ways of thinking
    Jan Qualia: because you will never find anything satisfying if you channel hop
    Sunshine Vayandar: interesting how one can put it in so many different ways
    Riddle Sideways: and you are stuck if only 1
    Jan Qualia: yes ''if only'....
    Lugh Fehr: but i like channle hoping besides i choose to stay on 1 chennle for hrs
    Jan Qualia: ok Lugh
    Lugh Fehr: well its a question of taste
    Corvuscorva Nightfire nods. Fox newss
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
    Corvuscorva Nightfire shudders
    Jan Qualia: if we really do stay with one channel and really pay attention to it...
    Riddle Sideways: all the channels are there. none are missing. watch just one
    Riddle Sideways: or not
    Jan Qualia: it will have everything we need...
    Corvuscorva Nightfire finds enlightenment quick, Fox News being what it is.
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: she switches off the set.
    Jan Qualia: yes switch it off altogether :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: my mind tries to define ,,what i really need"
    Yakuzza Lethecus: actually the search for what i really need is a grasp
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: nothing like motivation
    Yakuzza Lethecus: so i already have everything is contradicting with my motivator
    Jan Qualia: what we really need is ....nothing
    Riddle Sideways: ah, "Developing enlightment situation, stay tuned"
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: giggles.
    Sunshine Vayandar: I think it's good to see which are the times when one feels completely happy - nothing mising ...
    Sunshine Vayandar: hehe
    Jan Qualia: :)
    Lugh Fehr: but how can a person live whitout a mind?
    Lugh Fehr: its inbuilt
    Jan Qualia: is rthat enlightenment - when we feel we need nothing?
    Lugh Fehr: its like living whotout a nervious systemm of somthing or no lungs
    Sunshine Vayandar: what is it really hmm
    Jan Qualia: is it Lugh?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i think i need community even to learn to communicate about my thoughts and my dreams
    Lugh Fehr: yes i thinck its dry
    Lugh Fehr: too silente
    Yakuzza Lethecus: sl provides me with those even tho that i consider me a learner of how other ppl are able to reflect themselves
    Lugh Fehr: sielnt is also good its a good break from mind
    Jan Qualia: but you are community
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: bye Jan
    Yakuzza Lethecus: yes and i think it´s what i need i am not complete alone
    Riddle Sideways: I need to go be by myself with others now
    Riddle Sideways: thank you all
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: bye Riddle
    Jan Qualia: alone with others
    Sunshine Vayandar: byebyee Riddle ;)
    Jan Qualia: bye all
    Yakuzza Lethecus: bye riddle
    Jan Qualia: thanks for discussion
    Yakuzza Lethecus: bye jan
    Lugh Fehr: byebye
    Sunshine Vayandar: bye Jan
    Yakuzza Lethecus: bye everyone
    Lugh Fehr: byebye
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: bye all
    Sunshine Vayandar: bye ;)
    Sunshine Vayandar: so many byes ;p

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