2011.01.30 01:00 - Irrational habits

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    Wol Euler was guardian for this session.


    Wol Euler: hello lugh
    Lugh Fehr: ohh!! woll you are soo amall :)
    Wol Euler grins.
    Lugh Fehr: woow its so cool
    Wol Euler: I saw somebody with one of htese avs at a party last night
    Wol Euler: It's great :)
    Lugh Fehr: will you sit on my shoulder and give me good advise?
    Lugh Fehr: hehehe
    Wol Euler: that would be cool, but I don't think it'll work
    Wol Euler: let me try
    Lugh Fehr: all most their
    Wol Euler: no, avs aren't made for sitting on :(
    Lugh Fehr: hehee :D
    Wol Euler: it's really hard to move around in this av, because I still take normal-person-sized steps
    Wol Euler laughs.
    Lugh Fehr: i hope the others dont come and stepon you
    Wol Euler: we'll have to be careful!
    Lugh Fehr: :D
    Wol Euler: big brother
    Lugh Fehr: hehehe :D
    Lugh Fehr: my lil cub


    Wol Euler: oh I need a photo of this!
    Wol Euler: stay still :)
    Lugh Fehr: :D
    Wol Euler grins.
    Wol Euler: hello yaku
    Yakuzza Lethecus: good morning everyone
    Lugh Fehr: is it just a folder?
    Lugh Fehr: hellow yaku top of the morrnin to yah
    Wol Euler: yes, the folder was empty. Is the rest no-copy or no-transfer?
    Lugh Fehr: :(
    Yakuzza Lethecus: pretty av wol :)
    Wol Euler: ty :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: but ur just an appetizer for the lion :)
    Lugh Fehr: hehe
    Lugh Fehr: shes my little cub
    Lugh Fehr: its the circel of life
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i would like to be able to use the stroke animation that comes with for example zen´s cat :)
    Wol Euler: ah!
    Wol Euler: perhaps that is shareable? we'll ask
    Wol Euler: oops
    Lugh Fehr: oh my
    Yakuzza Lethecus smiles
    Wol Euler: okay, whew.
    Lugh Fehr: you could live inside alph now
    Wol Euler: right!
    Wol Euler: heheheheh
    Lugh Fehr: :)
    Wol Euler: apparently this av will work properly with normal poses and AOs
    Lugh Fehr: the tiny hands look so cute when they typ
    Wol Euler: but I can't get its controller to coexist with my AO
    Wol Euler: that's why I broke apart then
    Wol Euler: it is a wonderful av :)
    Lugh Fehr: be carfull of the koi today
    Wol Euler: heheheh
    Yakuzza Lethecus: or if blub is playing shark again
    Lugh Fehr: youl end up like that guy from the bible
    Wol Euler: jonah
    Lugh Fehr: yup thats the guy i whantetd to say noah but he was settles ...he had an arch and oll
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Wol Euler: so :)
    Wol Euler: how are we all today?
    Lugh Fehr: hehe im staying on the good side :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: pretty well, just posted the log from bert´s session yesterday
    Yakuzza Lethecus: sophia brought a wonderful garden into the fountain
    Wol Euler: oh!
    Yakuzza Lethecus: with stone´s and bamboo for the koi to swim around
    Yakuzza Lethecus: and we had a lot of nature, especially our lugh tree :)
    Wol Euler: :)
    Lugh Fehr: :)
    Lugh Fehr: how about you wol?
    Wol Euler: enjoying the morning, inwardly preparing for work this afternoon
    Wol Euler: coffee and mellow music
    Lugh Fehr: :) nice
    Lugh Fehr: what you work in wol?
    Wol Euler: I'm an architect
    Lugh Fehr: ahh yes i thinck you already told me very nice
    Wol Euler: we're working on a competition to be handed in next monday (not tomorrow)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: what do you do in RL lugh ?


    Lugh Fehr: im take care of some of the accounts and customer support of a smal software company
    Wol Euler: cool
    Lugh Fehr: how about you yaku?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i am a metal worker
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i do machining, milling, drilling, turning and alike
    Yakuzza Lethecus: it´s a very small company
    Lugh Fehr: nice crafty work
    Yakuzza Lethecus: when we´ve been on malta in recognized that the ppl don´t really care about wlan security
    Yakuzza Lethecus: 60-70% of the wlan´s are open
    Lugh Fehr: wlan?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: wireless network
    Lugh Fehr: ohh
    Lugh Fehr: mine have a password
    Lugh Fehr: :D
    Wol Euler: ours too
    Yakuzza Lethecus: yes, in germany ur responsible for the data that runs up and down ur connection
    Wol Euler: only coffee shops don't have passwords on theirs in GErmany
    Wol Euler: right
    Yakuzza Lethecus: even those have by the time
    Yakuzza Lethecus: at least most of em
    Wol Euler: in the US and Canada, most networks are open
    Wol Euler: people just don't bother
    Yakuzza Lethecus: well it´s only sad that we have to expect that ppl can do harm on open networks
    Yakuzza Lethecus: the reason for protection is the anticipation of harm
    Wol Euler nods.
    Lugh Fehr: evrybody is equally infior in the eyes of god
    Wol Euler: heheheh
    Lugh Fehr: its a line i stole off alan watts :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: should we protect ourselfves from ,,all possible" or should we always wait for the expecience of being harmed in some way ?
    Wol Euler: depends on how likely the harm is, and how great it would be
    EmpressRoslyn Winslet: hello, sry for interupting
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hello empress
    EmpressRoslyn Winslet: Hi there
    Wol Euler: hello roslyn
    Wol Euler: have you been here before?
    Lugh Fehr: well i thinck you should be a strong person and the rest be open for attack on all 4 side
    EmpressRoslyn Winslet: no, my first time...a friend gaev me this LM
    EmpressRoslyn Winslet: gave*
    Lugh Fehr: hellow new arrivals and bye if youll still here see you in 15 mins my dog need a potty break bad
    Wol Euler: ok, I'll give you a notecard about the group
    Wol Euler: see you later, lugh
    Yakuzza Lethecus: cya lugh
    EmpressRoslyn Winslet: alright, ty Wol
    Wol Euler: this is a meeting of a meditation and discussion group called Play as Being.
    Wol Euler: in theory we are here to talk about meditation practices, but in fact today we're just chatting :)
    Wol Euler: we have a website with lots of info about the group, http://wiki.playasbeing.org/
    EmpressRoslyn Winslet: Yes, my friend gave me this NC and theLM, sounds interesting...
    Wol Euler: we meet 4x daily, 1am 7am 1pm 7pm
    Wol Euler: and we record and publish the sessions so that those who were away can read what happened.
    Wol Euler: May we have your permission to include your SL name and your comments in the published log?


    EmpressRoslyn Winslet: fine with me
    EmpressRoslyn Winslet: have a great day
    Yakuzza Lethecus: take care
    Wol Euler: hello barca
    Yakuzza Lethecus: good morning barca
    Barcalona Rhapsody: morgen Yaku
    Barcalona Rhapsody: irrational thoughts ?
    Wol Euler: all the time!
    Wol Euler: :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: :)
    Barcalona Rhapsody: me too
    Wol Euler: what did you want to say about them?
    Barcalona Rhapsody: its human
    Barcalona Rhapsody: well on eating for instance
    Barcalona Rhapsody: i have the same weight as a year befoire
    Barcalona Rhapsody: before
    Barcalona Rhapsody: but then i had a diet
    Barcalona Rhapsody: now bad habits again
    Wol Euler nods.
    Barcalona Rhapsody: and in april last year i had lost 5 kg
    Barcalona Rhapsody: so i now wanna loose them again
    Wol Euler smiles and nods.
    Barcalona Rhapsody: but its completely irrational behaviuour
    Barcalona Rhapsody: so i wanna talk with yaku
    Barcalona Rhapsody: about irrational habits
    Yakuzza Lethecus: Well when thoughts are not very advanced it´s hard to communicate those.
    Yakuzza Lethecus: When i for instance tried to talk about security and protection.
    Wol Euler: we can try :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: I was thinking from wlan security up to security at airports in my mind
    Yakuzza Lethecus: düsseldorf weeze was closed for 4 hours last week when someone without papers passed the security checks
    Yakuzza Lethecus: ppl are suspicous after the russia bombings
    Wol Euler nods.
    Barcalona Rhapsody: sure
    Barcalona Rhapsody: thats overreacting
    Barcalona Rhapsody: like a kind of allergy
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i draw a line from wlan security and harming ppl by leaving ur internet connection shared where ppl could potentially use filesharing software to physical security
    Barcalona Rhapsody: ok
    Yakuzza Lethecus: that´s something that i often do but i think it´s untalkable since it´s hard to communicate and nearly unsharable
    Barcalona Rhapsody: but when on internet you dont have to move by planes
    Wol Euler: you are communicating and sharing it right now, yaku. and it's working fine :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: generally how suspicious should we be in life ?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: should we wait until harm happens
    Barcalona Rhapsody: indeed
    Yakuzza Lethecus: or create harm to a whole society because we don´t trust anyone anymore
    Barcalona Rhapsody: it all starts with an unrealistic thinking of enemies
    Wol Euler nods.
    Yakuzza Lethecus: suspicousness and mistrust is the biggest harm that can happen to a society in my view
    Wol Euler: ifyou phrase it that way, the answer is clear :)
    Barcalona Rhapsody: and in the media they all hype that enemie thinking
    Wol Euler: because (a) it sells advertising and (b) their bosses want it so
    Barcalona Rhapsody: its a kind of marketing
    Wol Euler: better an enemy outside the gates, than that we ask ourselves why things are bad at home
    Yakuzza Lethecus: Fear is a good seller.
    Barcalona Rhapsody: or business development
    Barcalona Rhapsody: and with internet we dont have to move that often as we thought or used to
    Barcalona Rhapsody: so we can more work from home
    Wol Euler nods.
    Barcalona Rhapsody: and after rush hour
    Barcalona Rhapsody: or befor rush hpur
    Barcalona Rhapsody: hour
    Barcalona Rhapsody: i saw yaku move but no words
    Wol Euler: self-censorship :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: yes
    Barcalona Rhapsody: ah


    Wol Euler grins.
    Barcalona Rhapsody: wol(f) ?
    Wol Euler: micro-fox :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: or how frear of loosing lifequality might make us buying 55€ for each injection for a bad knee
    Yakuzza Lethecus: but in an aldi we´re not willing to pay more then 1,5€ for tomatoes
    Yakuzza Lethecus: that was what i deleted before
    Wol Euler nods.
    Barcalona Rhapsody: since women work we cal sell heart-operations to women too
    Yakuzza Lethecus: the injections which my coworker actually got month earlier didn´t even work
    Wol Euler: :(
    Yakuzza Lethecus: but he had 5 of those and had to pay them himself
    Wol Euler: did he also have therapy and advice on changing his posture at work?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i don´t think so
    Barcalona Rhapsody: since women work we can sell cigarettes too to them
    Wol Euler: injections won't do any good if the cause of his problem is the way he stands all day long
    Wol Euler: or sits, whatever
    Yakuzza Lethecus: well, for me it´s this aspect of ,,selling through fear"
    Yakuzza Lethecus: firewalls because there are potential hackers
    Yakuzza Lethecus: fear of decrease of life quality leads to buy medical products
    Barcalona Rhapsody: but its the opposite of strenghten somones self trust
    Yakuzza Lethecus: in the united states they created 100k´s of jobs in security because of 9/11
    Barcalona Rhapsody: like they did in religions
    Wol Euler: yep
    Barcalona Rhapsody: religious living is preventing fear
    Barcalona Rhapsody: or can be
    Wol Euler: but it equally prevents individual freedom (or can do)
    Wol Euler: by giving pre-packaged systems for living
    Barcalona Rhapsody: knowing there is an angel helping u all your life
    Wol Euler: "stop thinking and do what I say god says you should"
    Barcalona Rhapsody: or a nature reliogion
    Wol Euler: sorry, too cynical, I withdraw that.
    Barcalona Rhapsody: me too
    Wol Euler looks at the time and sighs. I have to move on, work is waiting.
    Barcalona Rhapsody: i hope yaku finds the right words
    Wol Euler: Please continue to discuss this, I'm interested
    Wol Euler: and would like to read the rest when I post hte log
    Yakuzza Lethecus: my thoughts were on the associations and irrationality and the focus on general discussions i follow
    Barcalona Rhapsody: bye wol
    Yakuzza Lethecus: bye wol
    Wol Euler: bye for now, enjoy your sundays
    Barcalona Rhapsody: sure
    Yakuzza Lethecus: like in my head i was also on buying gadget´s in china like i did this morning
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i ordered a digital multimeter before and was thinking if i should buy one of a german brand
    Yakuzza Lethecus: but the budget lines of the german brands are produced oversea´s as well
    Yakuzza Lethecus: and are just traded through
    Barcalona Rhapsody: well ?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: show should i influence economy
    Barcalona Rhapsody: i saw your hand move but no words in the chat
    Yakuzza Lethecus: where should i buy
    Yakuzza Lethecus: how does economy really work, how can facebook be worth 50 billion
    Barcalona Rhapsody: economy is also a container word
    Yakuzza Lethecus: while it doesn´t even make 1 billion profit per year
    Barcalona Rhapsody: just potential
    Yakuzza Lethecus: unelaboratedness in my thoughts is a general aspect and the refocussing
    Yakuzza Lethecus: wb lugh
    Yakuzza Lethecus: barca seems to have crashed
    Lugh Fehr: tnx hellow yakkuu
    Lugh Fehr: i got myself some carrob pods :)


    Lugh Fehr: mabey i make myself some syrip :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: that´s nice
    Yakuzza Lethecus: but with carrots ?
    Lugh Fehr: no carrob
    Yakuzza Lethecus: ah
    Lugh Fehr: 1 sevc i show you
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i thoughts it´s a typo :)
    Lugh Fehr: http://www.google.com.mt/images?q=ca...w=1036&bih=514
    Lugh Fehr: its kinda the oak of the mediterranian
    Yakuzza Lethecus: nice
    Lugh Fehr: its my fav tree and they keep cutting these old trees down
    Lugh Fehr: im going to try to plant a hole bunch of them but its hard to groww
    Lugh Fehr: and thenreales them in the wild hehe
    Yakuzza Lethecus: We have a few cherry´s in the garden. But usually the birds are collecting those :P
    Yakuzza Lethecus: The apple and the ,,birnbaum" died unfortunatly.
    Yakuzza Lethecus: pear tree
    Lugh Fehr: i heard thet cerrys to sprout need to be eaten by a bird
    Lugh Fehr: men i writ to many typos but i have a kind of dislexia i thinck
    Yakuzza Lethecus: Well, if the birds would eat em fully and not just ,,pick"
    Yakuzza Lethecus: wb barca
    Lugh Fehr: ahh they oly eat the flesh not the seed ?
    Lugh Fehr: hey barca
    Yakuzza Lethecus: at least or birds just pic on the cherry´s and that make´s em not pretty to eat anymore
    Barcalona Rhapsody: sorry
    Barcalona Rhapsody: i had to leave for a while
    Lugh Fehr: hehehe yaku
    Barcalona Rhapsody: my wife and son are drinking coffe with me
    Lugh Fehr: :) nice
    Barcalona Rhapsody: and i have to talk with them
    Yakuzza Lethecus: That´s more important, i was also having coffee with my brother before.
    Barcalona Rhapsody: so another time for irrational thinking and behaviur
    Barcalona Rhapsody: thats more important sure
    Barcalona Rhapsody: in RL
    Yakuzza Lethecus: And in an hour i will visit my mother in a neighbour village
    Barcalona Rhapsody: very good
    Barcalona Rhapsody: so bye all
    Barcalona Rhapsody: till next time
    Yakuzza Lethecus: take care barca
    Barcalona Rhapsody: thnx
    Lugh Fehr: byby barca
    Lugh Fehr: :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: well i am also going to log off now
    Yakuzza Lethecus: take care

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