2011.01.31 13:00 - The Neverending Story

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Agatha Macbeth. The comments are by Agatha Macbeth.

    Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Aggie

    Bleu Oleander: hi Agatha and Aph

    Agatha Macbeth: Hello Bleu :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Bleu
    Agatha Macbeth: I think Aphro is afk
    Aphrodite Macbain: I'm back!
    Agatha Macbeth: Or she may be back...
    Agatha Macbeth: Hi Aph, welcome aboard
    Aphrodite Macbain: Can't you read my text? Oh dear.
    Aphrodite Macbain: Oh good. Tx Aggie
    Aphrodite Macbain: I like your art work Bleu
    Agatha Macbeth grins
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello Arch
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Arch, Hi Koya
    Archmage Atlantis: Hello Agatha, Bleu, Aph
    Agatha Macbeth: And Koya too
    Bleu Oleander: hey ty Aph
    Aphrodite Macbain: I clicked on your board but didn't get a text yet
    Bleu Oleander: I put a notecard there
    Bleu Oleander: hmmm
    Aphrodite Macbain: Oh. strange.
    Bleu Oleander: both not working?
    Aphrodite Macbain: I "touched" it but nothing happened
    Archmage Atlantis: Is there a general flow in the coversation (oft called a topic)
    Aphrodite Macbain: no. not 4 me anyway
    Agatha Macbeth: Not yet it seems
    Archmage Atlantis: Ok
    Aphrodite Macbain: no arch. Bleu and I are jut talking about the art as being exhibit
    Aphrodite Macbain: just
    Wol Euler: hello aph, bleu, arch, aggers
    Bleu Oleander: hey Wol
    Aphrodite Macbain: I'm still trying to get my act together
    Agatha Macbeth: Hiya Wollage :)
    Archmage Atlantis: I must admit I am a bit unsure of what to bring to the exhibit
    Bleu Oleander: just heard a great Metanomics talk
    Aphrodite Macbain: Wol! Great to see you
    Agatha Macbeth: Great what?
    Aphrodite Macbain: what is metanomics Bleu?
    Agatha Macbeth: Yeah
    Bleu Oleander: on sl/rl
    Archmage Atlantis: MetaWol?
    Bleu Oleander: embodiment
    Wol Euler: oh, with Tom ... thingy
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah
    Bleu Oleander: yeah
    Wol Euler: Bukowski?
    Bleu Oleander: yes
    Aphrodite Macbain: huh?
    Aphrodite Macbain: where?
    Agatha Macbeth: I like Tom Thingy better
    Bleu Oleander: Metanomics
    Wol Euler: I'm sorry to have missd that
    Bleu Oleander: very good comments from audience
    Aphrodite Macbain: I have absolutely no idea what metanomics is
    Archmage Atlantis: Do any of you listen to the music of Eliot Fisk?
    Agatha Macbeth: Me either
    Wol Euler: he was one of the first people to examine SL as a social phenomenon, not just a game
    Aphrodite Macbain: nope
    Archmage Atlantis: He was a student of Segovia
    Wol Euler: wrote "Coming of age in SL"
    Agatha Macbeth: It isn't a game
    Wol Euler: no, don'T know it
    Bleu Oleander: METANOMICS Live every Monday At NOON/SLT! Event Partner Landing Hub: http://tr.im/C7dH
    Aphrodite Macbain: ah. I'd like to find out what he said so I can explain this better to all my friends
    Bleu Oleander: hi Eliza
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Everyone :)
    Wol Euler: eliza! hello!!
    Bleu Oleander: hi Zon
    Wol Euler: welcome back
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello Liz :)
    Zon Kwan: hey all
    Agatha Macbeth: And zon#
    Bleu Oleander: good retreat?
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hello Zon
    Eliza Madrigal: :)) Thank you!
    Wol Euler: hello zon
    Archmage Atlantis: Greetings Eliza, Zon
    Eliza Madrigal: yes...quite dynamic
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Eliza
    Bleu Oleander: highlights thursday?
    Eliza Madrigal: yes, seems that is the master plan
    Aphrodite Macbain: Please tell us more Eliza
    Wol Euler: what time?
    Bleu Oleander: 1pm?
    Agatha Macbeth: Yeah, fire away Liz
    Eliza Madrigal: mmm, hard to know where to start. It will be 1pm Lia's session
    Wol Euler: ty
    Archmage Atlantis: No, my stylist says hightlights are for younger people, that I should stay with salt n pepper
    Aphrodite Macbain: Or maybe you'll save the summary until Thursday
    Eliza Madrigal laughs
    Wol Euler: :)
    Bleu Oleander: ha!
    Eliza Madrigal: I've been trying to write about it...
    Aphrodite Macbain: arch... :-)
    Eliza Madrigal: so I may post something before then to the guardian contributions
    Agatha Macbeth grinz
    Aphrodite Macbain: in the Chronicles Eliza?
    Bleu Oleander: hi Qt
    Eliza Madrigal: For now, i've posted an audio to the NO retreat page
    Archmage Atlantis: Hello Qt
    Eliza Madrigal: Aph, no...just the contributions
    Aphrodite Macbain: Ciao QT
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Qt :)
    Wol Euler: hello qt
    Qt Core: Hi all, ciao Aphro
    Aphrodite Macbain: There is a NO retreat page?
    Eliza Madrigal: http://wiki.playasbeing.org/Retreats/2011-01_New_Orleans%2c_USA
    Archmage Atlantis: Ciao Aphrodite......sounds almost classical
    Eliza Madrigal: this is the info page for now... I added the mp3 at the bottom
    Aphrodite Macbain: Yes- Roman rather than Greek perhaps!
    Aphrodite Macbain: Thanks liza
    Qt Core: i may try with ave next time, then ;-)
    Aphrodite Macbain: Eliza
    Eliza Madrigal: after the session Eos will possibly pull together all the reports and such as he usually does, but for now this is one act that we were able to see...
    Aphrodite Macbain: I'll change my ame to Maria
    Aphrodite Macbain: name
    Aphrodite Macbain: QT
    Qt Core: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Buona sera Qt
    Qt Core: 'sera Agatha
    Archmage Atlantis: ave maria.....that's a town here in SW Florida
    Aphrodite Macbain: un altro!! Bennissimo
    Aphrodite Macbain: a town called ave maria?
    Qt Core: (that make me imagine my mother (her first name is Maria) in SL, a strange thought :-)
    Aphrodite Macbain: Benissimo
    Archmage Atlantis: yes, founded by a conservative catholici
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: There ya go
    Archmage Atlantis: with a university
    Archmage Atlantis: Jesuits gone wild......you know how spring break is here
    Bleu Oleander: nice audio post Eliza
    Bleu Oleander: a snippet of NO
    Wol Euler: veyr nice :)(
    Wol Euler: *very
    Eliza Madrigal: :) I had to edit it down quite a bit...
    Eliza Madrigal: have a few
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh, well not I, Gaya actually...
    Eliza Madrigal: the original has laughter and silliness...
    Eliza Madrigal: but nice way to tie this retreat and Nova Scotia together :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: sounds good!
    Wol Euler: :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: laughter and silliness
    Wol Euler: what's wrong wit a little laughter and silliness?
    Eliza Madrigal: :) yes, and that particular song
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh, nothing wrong...just made too large a file :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Truly
    Wol Euler: ah :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :))
    Aphrodite Macbain: silliness takes up a lot of space...
    Eliza Madrigal: its the googly eyes
    Aphrodite Macbain: and laughter fills it
    Archmage Atlantis: Is anyone attending the lecture series on Sun Tsu and the Art of War?
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh, when/where is that Arch?
    Aphrodite Macbain: no.
    Wol Euler: didn't know there was one.
    Aphrodite Macbain: who or what is Sun Tsyu?
    Aphrodite Macbain: Tsu
    Agatha Macbeth: Sounds familiar
    Wol Euler: was a Chinese general/philosopher who wrote one of hte first books of strategy (theory of warfare, not just hitting the opponent)
    Bleu Oleander: so he's the one :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: tactics?
    Eliza Madrigal: :)) Bleu
    Wol Euler: that too, perhaps :)
    Agatha Macbeth: A kind of chinese Clauswitz then?
    Aphrodite Macbain: strategy?
    Wol Euler: yeah :)
    Agatha Macbeth nods
    Qt Core: used in last decades tr train management
    Wol Euler nods.
    Aphrodite Macbain: how would it apply to management? strategy and tactics?
    Archmage Atlantis: He is the one, that has elements of rezzing in it Bleu
    Wol Euler: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Tzu
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah, so
    Eliza Madrigal: from wiki: He thought that strategy was not planning in the sense of working through an established list, but rather that it requires quick and appropriate responses to changing conditions. Planning works in a controlled environment, but in a changing environment, competing plans collide, creating unexpected situations.
    Archmage Atlantis: One order of chop souey plse, Aggie
    Qt Core: changing word and financial acts for archery and swords the tricks are the same
    Wol Euler smiles and nods
    Agatha Macbeth: Interesting
    Bleu Oleander: :)
    Archmage Atlantis: Has anyone been to the cathedral of La Sagrada Familia?
    Aphrodite Macbain: and then there's his son, Sun Bin...
    Agatha Macbeth: SL or RL Arch?
    Wol Euler: nope
    Wol Euler: neither
    Aphrodite Macbain: Wish I have
    Archmage Atlantis: either l
    Aphrodite Macbain: amazing architecture - Gaudi - why do you ask?
    Archmage Atlantis: It is a piece of the same story
    Aphrodite Macbain: Oh?
    Archmage Atlantis: well, at least as I see the story
    Aphrodite Macbain: with Chinese art of war?
    Aphrodite Macbain scratches her head
    Wol Euler raises an eyebrow.
    Aphrodite Macbain: what story are you referring to?
    Wol Euler: you'll need to expand on that a little, Arch :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: or not.Maybe it's a koan
    Bleu Oleander: take care everyone ....
    Agatha Macbeth: Bye Bleu
    Qt Core: bye Bleu
    Wol Euler: bye bleu
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bye
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bye! Blue!
    Archmage Atlantis: entitykind is always at war.....kind entitiy is always at peace
    Aphrodite Macbain: entity kind??
    Agatha Macbeth ponders
    Aphrodite Macbain: is that a koan? entity kind= human kind?
    Aphrodite Macbain is away right now and has not broken her neck
    Aphrodite Macbain: afk
    Eliza Madrigal: that's rather interseting Arch...
    Eliza Madrigal: *interesting
    Eliza Madrigal: "always at war" v "always at peace"
    Archmage Atlantis: The poet sees
    Qt Core: entity kind = multiple separate entities kind entity only one big entity ?
    Wol Euler: personkind (non-sexist vocabulary)
    Agatha Macbeth: Wow, that charch looks like something from outer space
    Agatha Macbeth: church
    Agatha Macbeth: even
    Eliza Madrigal: :) qt
    Aphrodite Macbain: I like your translation QT
    Agatha Macbeth: That is a seriously amazing building
    Qt Core: well, it still needs Arch seal of approval, Aphro
    Archmage Atlantis: I must go.....ty friends......blessing and namaste
    Wol Euler: bye arch, take care
    Eliza Madrigal: so does the UU church I used to attend... hah really like a spaceship: http://www.uumia.org/
    Qt Core: bye arch
    Agatha Macbeth: Bye for now Arch, take care
    Eliza Madrigal: (Bye arch)
    Eliza Madrigal: (oh and blue) :)
    Eliza Madrigal: *bleu
    Eliza Madrigal: sheesh what is with my fingers today... not enough typing for a week
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bye
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bye! arch
    Wol Euler: that looks like a F L Wright building, ELiza.
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: See what you mean Liz
    Wol Euler: or one of his students
    Agatha Macbeth: Where's the water
    Aphrodite Macbain: who is/was the architect?
    Eliza Madrigal: good question....
    Aphrodite Macbain: It makes me think of the Sidney opera house
    Aphrodite Macbain: clean lines, sails
    Eliza Madrigal: Arthur Rude... I think it reads... hmm
    Agatha Macbeth: Good name
    Eliza Madrigal: nope, wrong snippet
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh
    Aphrodite Macbain: I don't think he's like Gaudi's work at all
    Eliza Madrigal: haha but yes great name
    Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
    Wol Euler: yeah, the satellite view in google maps doesn'T look like Wright. Too recent, that's a simple concrete shell
    Eliza Madrigal: just in being spaceship like Aph :)
    Agatha Macbeth: 'I can't design a church, but I have a great name'
    Aphrodite Macbain: ah
    Agatha Macbeth: Fair trade off
    Aphrodite Macbain: Do you attend that church Eliza - looks interesting
    Eliza Madrigal giggles
    Eliza Madrigal: http://www.docomomofl.org/news.html
    Eliza Madrigal: yes I did, for a little while, they still have jazz concerts I try to go to
    Eliza Madrigal: and a weekly buddhist meeting :) but I don't attend that anymore
    Eliza Madrigal: wish I'd raised the kids there actually
    Eliza Madrigal: haha...none of the pics on this page are that church either, sigh
    Aphrodite Macbain: They are still very relevant today unlike many other denominations
    Aphrodite Macbain: Did eeveryone get my email requesting regular funding support for PaB?
    Qt Core: while i attended service there only a couple time in my life i have a strange (good) feeling about it like it is a bigger brother
    Qt Core: forgot the subject... Milan Duomo
    Eliza Madrigal: there is a nice core group of folks who keep it going but because it is so liberal people just wander in and out and maybe don't organize much, hah
    Aphrodite Macbain: there= the unitarian church QT?
    Eliza Madrigal: ah, here are the architects: Earl Starnes and Joseph Rentshcer.
    Eliza Madrigal: (couldn't stop til I had that, hahah)
    Wol Euler: haven't checked lately,aph,sorry
    Aphrodite Macbain: :-) nice to recognize thm
    Aphrodite Macbain: I sent it yesterday
    Eliza Madrigal: they call it a hyperbolic parabola
    Qt Core: got it Aph
    Eliza Madrigal: excellent email Aph, thanks for that
    Agatha Macbeth: Can't beat a good parabola
    Aphrodite Macbain: yw Storm gave me the facts and I shaped and tweeked them
    Eliza Madrigal: that's what I always say
    Eliza Madrigal: ah, yes it read very clearly and simply...
    Aphrodite Macbain: especially a hyperbolic one
    Eliza Madrigal: does seem basic...would be nice to have the group be self-sustaining
    Agatha Macbeth: Hypothetical hyerbolic paabola?
    Agatha Macbeth: r
    Eliza Madrigal: hehe
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes- for less than 2 lattes
    Aphrodite Macbain: a month
    Agatha Macbeth: Whatever happened to the latte guy?
    Qt Core: with imaginary roots obviously ;-)
    Agatha Macbeth: The one who used to come to PaB
    Aphrodite Macbain: Is that what his name is?
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi cybersufi, cute name
    Eliza Madrigal: imaginary roots and wings
    Agatha Macbeth: Can't remember his name
    Eliza Madrigal: parabola in the sky
    Wol Euler: oh, hmmmmmmmm
    Wol Euler: damn, yes, latteman
    cybersufi Resident: hello everyone
    Agatha Macbeth: Isen somebodyorother?
    Eliza Madrigal: Enzo?
    Agatha Macbeth: Yes!
    Aphrodite Macbain: ah. Hello cyberstuff
    Qt Core: hi cybersufi
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, yes I miss seeing Isen around
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh, hello
    Wol Euler: welcome to SL, cybersufi. 14 days old :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: oops cybersufi
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Wol Euler: have you been here before?
    Aphrodite Macbain: please take a cushion Cyber
    Agatha Macbeth: He has :)
    Wol Euler: ok, good :)
    cybersufi Resident: young again, different incarnation
    Wol Euler: ah :)))))
    Aphrodite Macbain: how doesthis incarnation feel?
    Agatha Macbeth: It's probably Zen again! ;-)
    Eliza Madrigal: curioser and curioser
    Eliza Madrigal: hahahahah Ag
    cybersufi Resident: been about 3 years since last one so well rested
    Eliza Madrigal: Do you have sufi stories for us Cyber?
    cybersufi Resident: many if you like
    Eliza Madrigal: Ohhh yes we like those!
    Agatha Macbeth: Yeah, how's Idris Shah?
    Aphrodite Macbain: Please tell us one
    cybersufi Resident: still dead I here
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh dear
    cybersufi Resident: I knew him well only inderectly, some contact with his brothers group Omar before he passed on
    Aphrodite Macbain: Who was he
    cybersufi Resident: but my linage is more from the western hermetic branch, witha bit of Chan Zen, and Taoism
    cybersufi Resident: thin tick
    Agatha Macbeth: Thought you'd gone Arch
    Eliza Madrigal: oh very interesting cyber...
    cybersufi Resident: excellent program
    Wol Euler: wb arch
    Aphrodite Macbain: what program?
    Eliza Madrigal: so now you are a puzzle... chan zen piece over here, tao over there, sufi in another spot...
    Archmage Atlantis: I am with you always
    Archmage Atlantis: Always wanted to say that
    Agatha Macbeth: Someone else said that once...
    Eliza Madrigal: will be an interesting story you tell Cyber :)
    Archmage Atlantis: Cheap theatrics
    Eliza Madrigal: haah Arch and Ag...
    Agatha Macbeth: Naaw
    Wol Euler nods to aggs
    Eliza Madrigal: you forgot the "lo"
    Agatha Macbeth: Io isn't here ;-)
    Archmage Atlantis: I know the lo
    Eliza Madrigal: hehehe
    Aphrodite Macbain: But fun and silliness
    Agatha Macbeth: Io Silver
    Aphrodite Macbain: awayyyy
    Agatha Macbeth hears William Tell
    Aphrodite Macbain: and I wil follow...
    Agatha Macbeth: onigokko
    Archmage Atlantis: oft the first, there 3 they be, the man , the girl and the snake is he
    Wol Euler: stop
    Wol Euler: onigokko
    Aphrodite Macbain: onigokko
    Agatha Macbeth: Too late
    Wol Euler: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: gosh you're tall Aph
    Archmage Atlantis: Oh ook
    Wol Euler: wow, yes.
    Aphrodite Macbain: hhh and it isn't even friday!
    Agatha Macbeth: She's a beeeeg beeeeetch
    Aphrodite Macbain: stop
    Agatha Macbeth: Ooops
    Eliza Madrigal: stop
    Agatha Macbeth: Aphro's in orbit
    Eliza Madrigal: off the chain...
    Aphrodite Macbain: stop
    Eliza Madrigal: please stop?
    Eliza Madrigal: hehe
    Eliza Madrigal: STOP
    Agatha Macbeth: Halten bitte
    Archmage Atlantis: onigokko
    Wol Euler: eeep
    Agatha Macbeth: Arette s'il vous plait
    Archmage Atlantis: 
    Eliza Madrigal: stop
    Wol Euler: stop
    Eliza Madrigal: hmmm
    Wol Euler: meh
    cybersufi Resident: Well Eliza not as much of a puzzle as it seems , generally there is cross pollenation after all Idries Shah's family where the custodians of a buddish temple
    Archmage Atlantis: ONIGOKKO
    Archmage Atlantis: onigokko
    Agatha Macbeth: They were?
    Eliza Madrigal: I'm interested to hear more Cyber... it only looks like Im being distracted...
    cybersufi Resident: I see we have a high percentage of whirlers here lol
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Archmage Atlantis: tHE SNAKES ARE OUT OF THE BOX
    Eliza Madrigal: haha
    Archmage Atlantis: STOP
    Agatha Macbeth: Is it Friday?
    Wol Euler: stop
    Wol Euler: must be friday somewhere.
    Archmage Atlantis: lollipop
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Honolulu?
    Agatha Macbeth wonders where Aphro went
    Archmage Atlantis: lolli
    cybersufi Resident: there is a saying in sufi circles that people percieve the different traditions as being in competition with each other when in fact they are fingers of the one hand
    Eliza Madrigal: ah, nice...
    Agatha Macbeth: Did someone drop an onigokko?
    Archmage Atlantis: The sufi have wisdom
    Agatha Macbeth: Cos i still hear one
    Archmage Atlantis: stop
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah
    cybersufi Resident: so would you like a story then
    Eliza Madrigal: yes it really can't be otherwise...
    Eliza Madrigal: yes very much so
    Agatha Macbeth: Yes please
    cybersufi Resident: any particular theme
    Qt Core: sleeptime for me, bye all
    Eliza Madrigal: mmmm
    Agatha Macbeth: Ciao Qt
    Eliza Madrigal: Night Qt
    Wol Euler: ciao qt
    Qt Core: Ciao
    Eliza Madrigal: Perhaps generosity or humility
    cybersufi Resident: ok I will see what I can pull out the hat for you
    Zon Kwan: ''''
    Zon Kwan: .
    Agatha Macbeth waits for the rabbit
    Eliza Madrigal perks up
    Agatha Macbeth: (not the rabbi)
    Archmage Atlantis: A rabbit has more to teach than a rabbi?
    buxar Shamen: good morning ...good night
    Eliza Madrigal: Hello buxar, cybersufi is going to tell us a story :)
    Wol Euler: hello buxar
    Eliza Madrigal: we are all at the edge of our cushions
    buxar Shamen: uwww :D
    buxar Shamen: yey!
    Agatha Macbeth: Who said that?
    Wol Euler: have you been here before?
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    buxar Shamen: im lugh
    Wol Euler: ah! ok
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh hello
    buxar Shamen: ling stpry dont ask
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh it's you Lugh
    buxar Shamen: hehe :) hey agatha :D
    Agatha Macbeth: I've got a bag like that
    Archmage Atlantis: I do not beleive it is Lugh....l.only an imposter
    Agatha Macbeth: Or his sister
    Wol Euler sniffs. Smells like Lugh.
    buxar Shamen: :P
    Agatha Macbeth: Ask him something in Maltese
    buxar Shamen: im running from responsibility
    Agatha Macbeth: You too?
    Wol Euler: snap
    Archmage Atlantis: As a desendent of Dracul, I can smell what he is
    buxar Shamen: no shame in taking the easy way out
    Agatha Macbeth: Good old Vlad
    Eliza Madrigal: uh oh.... must be a big hat
    Wol Euler: oh dear, we bored cybersufi to sleep
    Agatha Macbeth: Poor dear
    buxar Shamen: hehee now where that story!!
    Eliza Madrigal: we mezmerized him with our onigokkos
    Agatha Macbeth: Looks like we'll never hear it
    buxar Shamen: is he new?
    Wol Euler: once upon a time, there was a rabbit who wanted more than anything else, to be a rabbi.
    Eliza Madrigal: hehehehe
    Wol Euler: (we take turns, one line at a time)
    Archmage Atlantis: lolli
    Agatha Macbeth: Not so much the neverending story as the never beginning one
    buxar Shamen: :P hehe
    Eliza Madrigal laughing hard
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh, hello
    cybersufi Resident: patience
    buxar Shamen: yeeeyy!!
    Agatha Macbeth: Doctors
    Wol Euler: boom boom
    Agatha Macbeth: Basil
    buxar Shamen: sory mate nice name bdw i like sufis pls to meet you an di shut up now
    cybersufi Resident: The Rich Man's State
    Eliza Madrigal smiles
    Agatha Macbeth: Johnathan?
    cybersufi Resident: A Millionaire decided to vist a sufi, to obtain his blessing,
    cybersufi Resident: He made a long journey, accompanied by a glittering retinue,
    cybersufi Resident: and arrived at last at the sage's home.
    cybersufi Resident: 'O illuminated one!'
    Archmage Atlantis: Pla, pls.. update this to Billionaire......Millionaires are a diamond a dozen
    Eliza Madrigal listening...
    cybersufi Resident: The rich man cried as he entered the presence, 'Teacher whose invocations are always answered
    cybersufi Resident: say a prayer for me!"
    cybersufi Resident: The sufi asked, 'What prayer would you have me say?"
    cybersufi Resident: 'Ask', requested the man of wealth, 'that I should never fall to a lower state than I am right now in'
    cybersufi Resident: The Sufi agreed, and the prayer was said.
    cybersufi Resident: some years later, the Sufi entered a miserable caravanserai to find a begger, dressed in rags, who at once attacked him.
    cybersufi Resident: I'I am the Magnate who you prayed for, you false and villainous so-called Sufi!' he screamed.
    Eliza Madrigal: hmm...
    cybersufi Resident: The Sufi said, 'What , more preciesly, is your complaint?'
    cybersufi Resident: 'Complaint? Look at me, begging and unhappy...'
    cybersufi Resident: 'Your pryer,' the sufi told him, 'was indeed answered. Your state was greed and insecurity, and you are still powerfully in its grasp.
    Wol Euler: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: ah, so a story of seeing the way things are...both humility and generosity (in showing its lack) THANK YOU!
    Agatha Macbeth: ***** APPPPPPPLLLLAAAUUUSSSSeeee***********
    Agatha Macbeth: clap
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    cybersufi Resident: your most welcome
    buxar Shamen: clap clap calp butiful story
    cybersufi Resident: worth a little wait was it not lol
    Eliza Madrigal: also 'dropping what we have to see what we are'
    Eliza Madrigal: yes, haha
    Agatha Macbeth: All comesto he who waits
    Eliza Madrigal: Patience is something we (I) need many stories about :)
    buxar Shamen: have you ever meat a real live sufi?
    cybersufi Resident: many times but most do not call themself sufi
    buxar Shamen: cool
    Eliza Madrigal: I think I will have to go... eyes are crossing at the keyboard ...
    cybersufi Resident: sleep well eliza
    buxar Shamen: good ight eliza
    buxar Shamen: :)
    Wol Euler: goodnight eliza, take care.
    Agatha Macbeth: Better than crossing at a green light
    Wol Euler: it's good to have you back
    Agatha Macbeth: C ya Liz
    Eliza Madrigal: but thanks for the story Cyber, for the session Aggers, for the company...
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah, the company
    Eliza Madrigal: Thanks :) Nice to be back
    Wol Euler: I'm going to leave too, I've been struggling against drowsiness all evening
    Wol Euler: goodngiht all, take care, be happy
    Eliza Madrigal: be well and happy
    Agatha Macbeth: Hit the hay Wol, schlaf gut
    Wol Euler: ty u2
    Agatha Macbeth waves
    buxar Shamen: what i find funny about sufis is that they try very hard not to say that all is god and they them selfs are the godhead like in hindu thought ... i thinck becouse of their cultural background state
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah well, back to it...
    Agatha Macbeth: Have fun all
    buxar Shamen: byebye agatha nice seeing you :)
    buxar Shamen: ciaw pupa hii!
    cybersufi Resident: Well there is good reason, words reduce the infinite to the finite
    buxar Shamen: heelow yashmen
    cybersufi Resident: people often confuse the word concepts with the reality behind the words
    buxar Shamen: thats tvery rue and can lead you very fast out of this world in some occestions
    buxar Shamen: wher you from csufi?
    Archmage Atlantis: Words are only symbols, and symbols are less than being
    cybersufi Resident: It is like Bruce lee said to his student in enter the dragon "it is like a finger pointing to the moon... don't look at the finger or you will miss all the hevenly glory"
    buxar Shamen: symbols in them self must rapresent something
    buxar Shamen: hehee nice qoute
    Archmage Atlantis: Life twirls
    buxar Shamen: hehee you look nice arch whit your bed hair :P
    cybersufi Resident: thats weird I appear to be levatating lol
    buxar Shamen: all in the magic of the mokment
    buxar Shamen: moment*
    cybersufi Resident: shocking distraction lol
    Archmage Atlantis: Descartes was close....the thought that he thought therefore he was.......
    Archmage Atlantis: I am without thought or other
    Archmage Atlantis: Namaste, Blessings, Shalom

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