2011.01.31 19:00 - Sadness, Sanity in People, or, Wake up!!

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    The Guardian for this meeting was SophiaSharon Larnia. The comments are by SophiaSharon Larnia. This session was attended by Aphrodite, Druth, some random griefers, Eos, oO0Oo, and Storm. A common thread does run through it, but it's hard to see it from the way this session curves around on itself. Some griefers interupted what Aphrodite was sharing, which was picked up later (in the colors of the conversation, if not the actual written content). As far as the griefers go, you will not see much text to impress you, however they were waving guns and walking all over our avatars and I'm afraid my trigger finger just clicked (In my defense, it was the first time in almost 2 years at PaB that I've done it). To "drop" at that point to get a fresh perspective seemed to disrespect my fellow play-as-being friends. I still have a lot of personal work to do on that.

    Aphrodite Macbain: Hiya druth
    druth Vlodovic: hi aph
    druth Vlodovic: are we expecting a big crowd today?
    Aphrodite Macbain: what's happening in your world?
    druth Vlodovic: not much
    druth Vlodovic: you?
    Aphrodite Macbain: dunno. It's a theme session
    druth Vlodovic: ah, what's the question today?
    Aphrodite Macbain: I'm out in vancouver enjoying a cold but summy day
    Aphrodite Macbain: sunny!
    druth Vlodovic: nice
    Aphrodite Macbain: (not any moreactually)
    druth Vlodovic: any snow out there?
    Aphrodite Macbain: The theme will be the same- play as being
    Aphrodite Macbain: No, it always disappears quickly
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Aphrodite hi Druth :)
    druth Vlodovic: hi sophia
    Aphrodite Macbain: You're in Onrario, aren't you?
    Aphrodite Macbain: Ontario
    druth Vlodovic: yes, near ottawa
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hagia Sophia
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :))
    Aphrodite Macbain: My sister lives in Carp!
    druth Vlodovic: we have snow, but lately we've mainly been getting lots of cold
    Aphrodite Macbain: Holy Wisdom
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hagia Sophia
    druth Vlodovic: ah, from the rootword "haggis"
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes, ive read a bit about that int he past, it s been a while since I have
    Aphrodite Macbain giggles
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ;p
    Aphrodite Macbain: it is a mosque in Istanbul
    Aphrodite Macbain: formerly a basilica
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes
    druth Vlodovic: ok, I was watching an architecture show on it
    Aphrodite Macbain: Haggisophia
    SophiaSharon Larnia: imho one of the last places who worshiped the divine feminine (I was seriously distracted here and missed much of this text, sorry!! Maybe we can talk about this later?)
    Aphrodite Macbain: where? there?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: sounds like me haaysophi lolol
    SophiaSharon Larnia: haggy*
    Aphrodite Macbain: not true Sophia
    Aphrodite Macbain: How's the teaching?
    druth Vlodovic: a masque seems an odd place to worship the divine feminine
    Aphrodite Macbain: Yes. Islam rarely worships anything female
    SophiaSharon Larnia: afk one sec sorry
    Aphrodite Macbain: I wonder if this IS a theme session, I thought it was.
    Aphrodite Macbain: this is
    druth Vlodovic: well, it will be if we start the theme
    druth Vlodovic: though I'm not sure I have anything to say about it
    druth Vlodovic: would you like to start?
    Aphrodite Macbain: a PaB theme. Are you the Guardian for tonight?
    Aphrodite Macbain: Sure
    druth Vlodovic: no, sophia is
    Aphrodite Macbain: Oh. I don't think she has claimed it ye.
    druth Vlodovic: she did a bit ago
    SophiaSharon Larnia: back sorry
    SophiaSharon Larnia: theme session? I think the peoplrty session was last night?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: poetry*
    druth Vlodovic: aph was just going to start with the theme
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I did clain this session :D
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yay

    Aphrodite Macbain: all that I can offer right now is that if I have a being it is an unfamiliar one - so much is changing around me
    Aphrodite Macbain: and I am responding in unexpected ways. I feel like I'm reinventing who I am to deal with new challenges
    Aphrodite Macbain: Like yet another friend dying
    Aphrodite Macbain: Not sure what theme that raises - perhaps changing and appreciating that change

    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: (tho not necessarily enjoying it)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: what is unfamiliar?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: thanks Aph, you stated that so well
    Aphrodite Macbain: How depressed I get about it. I'm usually much more resilient
    Aphrodite Macbain: I don't have the quick solutions any more.
    Aphrodite Macbain: Tx Sophia
    SophiaSharon Larnia: maybe quick solutions were an illusion too
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes, perhaps. They helped me feel like I was doing SOMETHING


    SophiaSharon Larnia: ("felt" like you were looking at my "back" so I moved :D)
    Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
    Aphrodite Macbain: Nice back

    SophiaSharon Larnia: Its very hard Aph Im still looking for the way
    Aphrodite Macbain: The way to ...?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: all I can do each day is my small part and keep doing that
    SophiaSharon Larnia: the way to walk past the sadness I think you may be refering to

    Aphrodite Macbain: Yes, you have been having some difficult times, haven't you?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: we all are :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: People tell me we should not resist sadness
    Aphrodite Macbain: and simply enter into it and experience it.
    Aphrodite Macbain: Not sure about that. Too scary
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i had an idea like that, and fell into it too
    Aphrodite Macbain: druth? how about you?
    druth Vlodovic: I find expriencing emotions actually tempers their effect over time, keeping it in amplifies it
    Aphrodite Macbain: Yes, the emotions often pass, that's true. Except when yu're feeling really depressed
    druth Vlodovic: but the body and mind has an idea of what we can take, if we let them decide
    SophiaSharon Larnia: things do get better over time, i dont know if its the talking or just being around positive people, that really helps a lot
    druth Vlodovic: yes, depression is a bit of an exception
    SophiaSharon Larnia: positive minded people spreading good cheer
    druth Vlodovic: but sadness isn't depression until you supress it
    Aphrodite Macbain: Sunshine makes me happy though and the sounds of bird singing. Amazing how those things can affect you subliminally

    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Newcomer
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oops
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Newcomer
    Aphrodite Macbain giggles. Cute name
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :D
    druth Vlodovic: can I call you mom for short?
    Aphrodite Macbain: ? where is new
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: he left
    Aphrodite Macbain: that was fast
    SophiaSharon Larnia: guess he was feeling rather dyspeptic
    Aphrodite Macbain giggles. Great word, dyspeptic
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I guess that wouldnt have been funny if he was in hearing range, bad sharon

    Aphrodite Macbain: Are either of you doing something for Art as Being?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: *sighs*                     (At this point, there was random shouting aross the Bieup sim)
    Aphrodite Macbain groans
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I made a male alt
    druth Vlodovic: we are part of our environment, and vice versa, my friend was always noticing the temperature and light

    and telling me when they were having emotional impacts :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: giggles
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes indeed
    druth Vlodovic: oh, I'm going to miss it, can I see?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i tried to make my male alt look like a being I see in my head sometimes
    Aphrodite Macbain: Vancouverites get SAD
    SophiaSharon Larnia: a tall pale man with long black hair and blue eyes
    Aphrodite Macbain: Why are you going tom miss it. It will be up for a while
    druth Vlodovic: I meant the get together
    druth Vlodovic: the opening?
    Aphrodite Macbain: Oh. Too bad
    SophiaSharon Larnia: the theme session i beleive you mean?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes too bad!
    Aphrodite Macbain: the opening of the exhibition?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: when we discuss our photos
    Aphrodite Macbain: I have made a collage of all my avis and ats
    SophiaSharon Larnia: what they mean
    druth Vlodovic: yes,
    SophiaSharon Larnia: cool :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i still havent taken a pciture
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i cant get the alt right without spending money lol
    Aphrodite Macbain: I just hae to figure out how I import the image into a texture
    druth Vlodovic: that must be something aph, do you have a lot?

    Griefer1: OY!!!!                  
    Griefer2: OY!!!!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hello Griefer 1 and Griefer2
    Greifer1: Salam
    Griefer1: i
    Griefer2: MY name is not really Griefer2
    Aphrodite Macbain: When I realized I can buy 1200 L$ for $5. I decied to lash out and be a big spender
    Griefer1: these are not muslims man
    SophiaSharon Larnia: this is a group called play as being
    Greifer3: ### ### #### EMPIRE
    Griefer1: there all jews


    Griefer1: jewish bitches
    SophiaSharon Larnia: we discuss topics such as the nature of reality and other topics here
    Griefer2: double jews
    Griefer3: reality is real
    Griefer1: dam thats lame
    Griefer2 WHAT IS REAL?
    Griefer1: talk about dieing babies
    Griefer2: *dying, fgt
    Griefer1: death babiews

    SophiaSharon Larnia: buh bye
    SophiaSharon Larnia: sorry i have very little patience for that sort of thing         
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I can change the log, not sure if I will
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hello Eos

    Aphrodite Macbain: OK Griefer1, Griefer2. If you speak like that again, we will have to eject you
    druth Vlodovic: odd, I still see the one guy, but he shows as not here on my radar
    Aphrodite Macbain: Otherwise, please join ur discussion
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes, that would be the proper way to do it Aph

    Eos Amaterasu: HI Sophia, Aph, druth
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Eos I just kicked out a couple avatars from the pavilion
    druth Vlodovic: funny
    SophiaSharon Larnia: and hi btw
    druth Vlodovic: hi eos
    Aphrodite Macbain: You did it! Great
    Eos Amaterasu: hmm, I've only had to do that once as a giuardian
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hello Eos
    SophiaSharon Larnia: carring guns and calling my friends jewish bitches
    Eos Amaterasu: How did it feel?
    Aphrodite Macbain: Must be late 4 U
    Eos Amaterasu: yikes!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: no conversation tyvm
    Eos Amaterasu: Um, yes
    SophiaSharon Larnia: buh bye
    Aphrodite Macbain: and killing jewish babies
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i didnt hear that part
    druth Vlodovic: "She's got the powah!"
    Aphrodite Macbain: they miust be 16 year olds
    SophiaSharon Larnia: was putting on my tag and preparing to eject

    SophiaSharon Larnia: I thought Aph, that you were reprimanding me gently :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: which i may have deserved           (I did deserve that)

    SophiaSharon Larnia: i dont have the power, any guardian has the power
    Eos Amaterasu: there was a group of 6 or so I had to eject once, one by one
    SophiaSharon Larnia: it is in your guardian role rights eject, eject and ban
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i ejected, the one came right back
    SophiaSharon Larnia: so ejected and banned
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yuck Eos :)
    Eos Amaterasu: social software
    druth Vlodovic: I've heard of a bunch who call themselves islamic greifing islamic sims
    Aphrodite Macbain: Nasty stuff, all of it :-) Eos
    druth Vlodovic: no way to tell who these guys were though
    Eos Amaterasu: doesn't sound very real, druth
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i know, thats wheat im thinking
    SophiaSharon Larnia: what*
    Eos Amaterasu: provocateurs....
    Aphrodite Macbain: It was real all right
    SophiaSharon Larnia: back with alts or something
    druth Vlodovic: more funny than anything else

    Eos Amaterasu: I say this having just watched some Egyptians, direct - it's so refreshing to hear their truth directly
    druth Vlodovic: odd, I mean
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i dont like how it disrupted what you were saying Aph
    Aphrodite Macbain: can't laugh at that. even tho it was pthetic
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i was listening lol

    Eos Amaterasu: Egypt is having a marvelous moment, with potential to continue that way
    Aphrodite Macbain: What did you see Eos, I haven't looked a the news todayay
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes, ive been looking at it with one eye
    Eos Amaterasu: people can rise to their highest potential and goodness - you can see it in their eyes, their faces, their voice
    Aphrodite Macbain: I'm nervous how unstable it is becoming. Who will come into fill the gap?
    Eos Amaterasu: something very recognizable
    Eos Amaterasu: cuts through all the bullshit

    Aphrodite Macbain: Bit like Iraq
    Eos Amaterasu: there's a lot of sanity there
    Eos Amaterasu: if it's just allowed to be

    SophiaSharon Larnia: i see it too
    Aphrodite Macbain: Easy to destroy who's on top but a lot harder to set up a democratic system Takes time
    SophiaSharon Larnia: and hoping
    Eos Amaterasu: takes no time at all: that's what the people realized
    Aphrodite Macbain: I fear one dictator will take over from the other
    Eos Amaterasu: even the people in the army realize that

    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Samuo :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hello Samuo!
    Eos Amaterasu: that's often the case, Aph, but we can hope it's not: and it doesn't have to be
    druth Vlodovic: hi oOOOo
    oO0Oo Resident: hi everyone :)))
    Eos Amaterasu: Mubarak could actually do the right thing - why not?
    Eos Amaterasu: Hi oO0Oo
    Aphrodite Macbain: But who would take over? What government? What system?
    Aphrodite Macbain: Like Russia, they have to start from the beginning
    SophiaSharon Larnia: some much money and power in very few hands, thats how i understand it
    Eos Amaterasu: there is sanity in people
    Eos Amaterasu: they can see through the bullshit

    Aphrodite Macbain: also insanity
    Eos Amaterasu: in a way that people here in North Am have forgotten how to, at least in collective expression
    Aphrodite Macbain: If they could all stop for 9 seconds...
    SophiaSharon Larnia: people want their famiies to be fed
    Eos Amaterasu: that is what that is: a giant 9 seconds
    druth Vlodovic: we just haven't been pushed far enough in a while
    Aphrodite Macbain: Yes, poverty is at the core of it, poverty and powerlessness
    Eos Amaterasu: just like for New Yorkers 9/11 was a giant 9 hours
    Eos Amaterasu: of mostly sanity and mutual help
    Aphrodite Macbain: 9 hours?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: a wake up call , possibly


    Eos Amaterasu: yes, wake up!
    Aphrodite Macbain: for what Sophia?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: to the world
    Eos Amaterasu: for the 90 secs!
    Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
    Aphrodite Macbain: Sober second thoughts rather than wild emotions.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: smiles
    Aphrodite Macbain: Where can we find that?
    druth Vlodovic: ever have a stop forced on you?
    Eos Amaterasu: It's a magical time in Egypt. I can recognize that having been in similar magical times.
    Aphrodite Macbain: a stop druth?
    Eos Amaterasu: A time when you can forget the "If"s
    SophiaSharon Larnia: the fertile crescent
    Eos Amaterasu: Some of the crowd pictures really convey that.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: all young
    Eos Amaterasu: They are a civilized people
    Aphrodite Macbain: Yes- I remember it was like that in the 80s in Nicaragua. For the flash of a moment you are best of what you are
    Eos Amaterasu: let's do that now!

    SophiaSharon Larnia: what to do with the anxiety Eos?
    Aphrodite Macbain: Change CAN happen!
    Eos Amaterasu: anxiety - be directly with it
    Eos Amaterasu: it has intelligence too

    SophiaSharon Larnia: in a vital sense i want to believe that everyhting is perfect
    Eos Amaterasu: but let it be so it doesn't do curlicues around itself
    Aphrodite Macbain: anxiety? it is a warning that should be heeded but not necessarily obeyed
    Eos Amaterasu: everything is perfect, so we have to work hard :-)
    Aphrodite Macbain: to keep it perfect?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: if perfect, why work?
    Aphrodite Macbain: because things hange constantly
    Aphrodite Macbain: change
    SophiaSharon Larnia: (looks at the moon and asked if its made of cheese)
    Eos Amaterasu: perfection is also in work. It's like water flowing, or a plant growing
    Eos Amaterasu: moon is yummy
    SophiaSharon Larnia: laughs
    Aphrodite Macbain: being in the moment is a perfect place to be
    Aphrodite Macbain: cream cheese or blue cheese?                       (sorry Aph, missed your text!)
    Eos Amaterasu: and what if a whole country could be momentarily in the moment?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hmm
    Eos Amaterasu: it can and does happen
    Aphrodite Macbain: For the flash of this moment we are the best of what we are"
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bruce Cockburn
    Eos Amaterasu: best not to try to recreate it :-)
    Eos Amaterasu: statues don't cut it
    Aphrodite Macbain: just recognize it?
    Eos Amaterasu: yes
    Aphrodite Macbain: statues get pulled down
    Eos Amaterasu: I have a few statues I relate to: they can also convey
    Aphrodite Macbain: funny the power of those symbols
    Eos Amaterasu: language
    Aphrodite Macbain: which ones Eos?
    Eos Amaterasu: doesn't so much matter which ones: it's that they are like static AVs, so to speak
    SophiaSharon Larnia: speaking to what we were talkign about earlier
    Eos Amaterasu listens
    Aphrodite Macbain: how so?
    Eos Amaterasu: hi storm
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Storm :D
    Aphrodite Macbain: Storm!!
    druth Vlodovic: hi storm
    oO0Oo Resident: storm :)
    Storm Nordwind: Hi guys. Sorry to interrupt. :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: so nice to see you at night Storm, i dont think I ever have!
    Storm Nordwind blushes
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :D
    Aphrodite Macbain: Storm at night...
    Aphrodite Macbain: a blushing storm at night
    Aphrodite Macbain: a dust storm in the Gobi desert
    Eos Amaterasu listens for more re [07:53 PM] SophiaSharon Larnia: speaking to what we were talkign about earlier
    SophiaSharon Larnia: we were talking about whats going on in Egypt, in part, and understanding what perfection is (in

    Aphrodite Macbain: and monuments as symbols
    Aphrodite Macbain: OO what did you do Storm?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oh and i booted 3 people from the pavilion which im still shaky about :/
    Storm Nordwind: Oh dear
    druth Vlodovic: oh? I think you should feel good about it
    Aphrodite Macbain: Is that rain. All I see is blue rectangles
    Eos Amaterasu: Oooohhhhhhh (sound of long samurai voice)
    druth Vlodovic: you did well in a situation
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oh not about kicking someone out no
    Storm Nordwind whispers to Aphrodite: give it a little while and you will see rain
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hahah
    Aphrodite Macbain sighs in relief
    SophiaSharon Larnia: sticks out her tongue :)
    Aphrodite Macbain thinks, as long as it's not snow
    Eos Amaterasu: people all over the Mid and Eastern US are on the lookout for you, storm
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes!!
    Storm Nordwind chuckles
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes, rumours of cyclones
    Storm Nordwind: are greatly exaggerated
    SophiaSharon Larnia: funny how we're all on the out ring
    SophiaSharon Larnia: outer


    Storm Nordwind: I wondered whether there was something mystical going on, so followed suit
    Aphrodite Macbain: Gotta go now. I want to see what it's like to fly through rain.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Aprodite!
    Storm Nordwind waves
    druth Vlodovic: have fun aphrodite :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bye
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bye! al
    oO0Oo Resident: :) Aphrodite
    Eos Amaterasu: bye aph
    Eos Amaterasu: I didn't want to break the spell
    SophiaSharon Larnia: did you go to New Orleas Eos???
    Eos Amaterasu: oh yes, and thank you so much for helping set that up!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Ive been dying to hear about it
    Eos Amaterasu: Theme session about it is Thursday 1 pm
    SophiaSharon Larnia: wanted to email every day or call Eliza :D
    Eos Amaterasu: Eliza put up a sound bite at the retreat page on the wiki
    SophiaSharon Larnia: were you too close to bourbon st?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i worried about the noise
    Eos Amaterasu: Caroline Fourmy singing "Non Je Ne Regrette Rien" (it's in Inception)
    Eos Amaterasu: at the BMC bar off Frenchmen Street
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :) ill check it out, i love!! Frenchmans street
    SophiaSharon Larnia: better than biurbon
    Eos Amaterasu: We were a half-block from Bourbon Street
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes too close?
    Eos Amaterasu: I was on side facing away, so it was quiet
    Eos Amaterasu: for others, though :-)
    Storm Nordwind recalls that the Kira Cafe is now on land owned by the Regrette Rien group
    Eos Amaterasu: :-)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Eos Amaterasu: the music scene is so open and warm - I've seen many, but this is exceptional
    Eos Amaterasu: freedom and intensity
    SophiaSharon Larnia: prob because most are drinking?
    Eos Amaterasu: I listen to the music play
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i know what you mean though :)
    Eos Amaterasu: but yes, Pema and I quaffed a few
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i didnt remember it being that close
    Eos Amaterasu: in one restaurant I inquired about the draft beer,and was told they had a "Knowledge Beer"
    Eos Amaterasu: so had to go for that
    SophiaSharon Larnia: lol
    Eos Amaterasu: but then discovered it was actually "N'awlins"
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oh that is funny
    Eos Amaterasu: It wasn't what taxi drivers drink in London
    Storm Nordwind: And what happened? Did all your knowledge evaporate in a rosy glow? ;)
    Eos Amaterasu: it became N.O.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ive been telling people n'awlins isnt pronounced like people in the east think it is no one beleives

    druth Vlodovic: 'night all
    Eos Amaterasu: good night, druth
    SophiaSharon Larnia: anyone, i hope it was condusive to a good retreat
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Druth :)
    oO0Oo Resident: :) Druth
    SophiaSharon Larnia: an urban retreat
    Eos Amaterasu: yes, it had its own intensity
    Eos Amaterasu: will you do the upcoming SLretreat, SS?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: this feb? yes
    Eos Amaterasu: cool!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :) hopefully can get there the first meeting in time
    SophiaSharon Larnia: im technically "working" then
    SophiaSharon Larnia: but work at home charting at that time :)
    Eos Amaterasu: I think setting aside the time, and having intention about the retreat time, helps give it its power
    Eos Amaterasu: special container
    Eos Amaterasu: or bus
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: setting the time after that is no problem :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: have to go and finish up some things, good night all!!
    Eos Amaterasu: late here for me too, good night!
    Eos Amaterasu: all!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye for now
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :D
    SophiaSharon Larnia: night Storn and Samuo :))
    Storm Nordwind: I shall wend my way too
    oO0Oo Resident: :) SSL
    Storm Nordwind waves
    oO0Oo Resident: :) Eos

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