2011.03.06 19:00 - Some of Our Favorite Things

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Calvino Rabeni. The comments are by Calvino Rabeni.

    Archmage Atlantis: Hello Calvino
    Archmage Atlantis: Pardon me, still baking
    Calvino Rabeni: Good evening, Archmage :)
    Archmage Atlantis: May I ask you a thought, Cal?
    Calvino Rabeni: Yes?
    Archmage Atlantis: What is the meaning of life?
    Calvino Rabeni: hmmm ...
    Calvino Rabeni is thinking
    Archmage Atlantis: hears
    Archmage Atlantis: Tis your session to claim, Cal
    Calvino Rabeni: Yes! That's life!
    Archmage Atlantis: Hello, Paradise
    Paradise Tennant: smiles ..hello cal .. arch :) gtsy you two :)
    Archmage Atlantis: I was just being bitchy with Cal

    Paradise Tennant: listens :)
    Archmage Atlantis: Well, I asked Cal the meaning of life
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi everyone :)
    Calvino Rabeni: Good evening SSL :)
    Paradise Tennant: hiya sophia ..gtsy :)
    Archmage Atlantis: That is sorta chy
    SophiaSharon Larnia: gtsy 2 :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: listens with great interest :)
    Paradise Tennant: smiles and the meaning of life is ???
    Calvino Rabeni: Just sitting there in a pool waiting to be claimed
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Samuo
    oO0Oo Resident sorry I'm late hello everyone :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Calvino Rabeni: Hi Sam
    Paradise Tennant: smiles hiya O :) we are diving for the meaning of life :))
    oO0Oo Resident: Ok ty
    Archmage Atlantis: To me, it is when someone asks me where the symble of man on earth holding heaven originates
    Paradise Tennant: to give appreciation .. for this complex web of beauty :) would be my bet :)
    Calvino Rabeni: I like that symbol ... I'm considering either contemplating it or googling it :)
    Paradise Tennant: or tapestry of .. wonder ..
    Archmage Atlantis: A bettter way would be to say, for me, when reason is tempered by belief, ......and when belief is tempered by reason.
    Calvino Rabeni: mmmm, I like those friendly classic meanings of Reason and Belief
    SophiaSharon Larnia: brb
    Archmage Atlantis: Pardon me.....I need to change into comforable prims
    oO0Oo Resident: meaning in, or of life: I iknow it when I feel it, but can't describe it
    Archmage Atlantis: To me, knowing I can describe it does not mean I feel it
    SophiaSharon Larnia: back, the question is so big, and too many thoughts to verbalize, had to get a glass of water :)
    oO0Oo Resident: hehe me too brb
    Calvino Rabeni takes a sip of green tea
    SophiaSharon Larnia: the idea of chatting here what eons of humans have pondered, hmm, easier for me to narrow it down a bit <3
    Archmage Atlantis: Pls do SS
    Paradise Tennant: hmmm... can define meaning in many ways ..how it relates .. how it is important .. what it does .. think maybe the best is how it translates .. how does life translate - we are each a little language lab :)))
    SophiaSharon Larnia: first thought of categories, evolutionary need to procreate to sustain life
    SophiaSharon Larnia: spiritual being at the end of the catorgory spectrum
    SophiaSharon Larnia: or at least, the end, here

    Paradise Tennant: smiles at lucinda .. and stev .. quietly :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Luci, hi Steve
    stevenaia Michinaga: wwaves
    Lucinda Lavender: HI Sophia Sharon, Arch, Calvino, Stevenai, Paradise:)
    Paradise Tennant: we are exploring the meaning of life :) :) :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: giggles
    Archmage Atlantis: _/\_
    Lucinda Lavender: and Samuo:)
    stevenaia Michinaga: meaning? to whom?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ah
    Paradise Tennant: good question :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: smiles
    SophiaSharon Larnia: surely not little ol me
    oO0Oo Resident: back Hi Luci
    Lucinda Lavender: :)
    Calvino Rabeni:

    Raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens
    Bright copper kettles and warm woolen mittens
    Brown paper packages tied up with strings
    These are a few of my favorite things

    Cream colored ponies and crisp apple streudels
    Doorbells and sleigh bells and schnitzel with noodles
    Wild geese that fly with the moon on their wings
    These are a few of my favorite things

    Girls in white dresses with blue satin sashes
    Snowflakes that stay on my nose and eyelashes
    Silver white winters that melt into springs
    These are a few of my favorite things

    SophiaSharon Larnia: laughs
    oO0Oo Resident: lol
    Paradise Tennant: huge smile here :)))
    Archmage Atlantis: In the best fairnes, I questioned Cal
    Lucinda Lavender: beauty
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i want to say without proof, to experience
    Calvino Rabeni: I was thinking,  if I made a "meaning of life" list ... and was rather thorough about it .. for a very long time .. probably I'd forget and leave something off the list
    SophiaSharon Larnia: is that like a bucket list cal?
    Paradise Tennant: hiya lila :)
    Lucinda Lavender: HI Lila:)
    Paradise Tennant: lila this is play as being :)
    Lila Utu: hi everyone ???
    Rhiannon Dragoone: hi lila
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Rhiannon, hi Lila
    Archmage Atlantis: Reading the im log this week was inspiring and difficult this am
    oO0Oo Resident: Hi Lila
    Lucinda Lavender: HI Rhiannon
    Paradise Tennant: if you click on the little box if will give you a notecard with the info for this group :)
    oO0Oo Resident: Rhi! long time. ntsy!
    Calvino Rabeni: Hi, Lila .. there's an information box behind us about the group here
    Rhiannon Dragoone: hi Lucinda; thanks for noticing me
    Calvino Rabeni: The conversations are recorded
    Paradise Tennant: hiya rhi gtsy :))
    Calvino Rabeni: Are you comfortable with that, Lila?
    Lila Utu: yes
    Lucinda Lavender: was not looking that direction:)
    Calvino Rabeni: You can find our conversations on the wiki
    Rhiannon Dragoone: hiya, Paradise.
    Calvino Rabeni: http://wiki.playasbeing.org/
    Rhiannon Dragoone: Lucinda, well, at least you said hi. :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: waves to Rhi
    Paradise Tennant: we have been talking of the meaning of life ..kind of a big topic :))
    Calvino Rabeni regards Rhiannon -
    Calvino Rabeni: waves across the pool
    Rhiannon Dragoone waves at Cal
    Rhiannon Dragoone waves at steve
    Calvino Rabeni: It's funny, someone could say the word meaning in that context, without it being plural
    Lila Utu: Rhi - is that invitation for this group?
    Rhiannon Dragoone: The meaning of life is connected with how we live it; it's not like the meaning of a phrase or concept; it's more connected with the purpose of life
    Paradise Tennant: what is the purpose of life
    Archmage Atlantis: You are saying, Cal, that life has multiple meanings?
    stevenaia Michinaga: was to a museum this weekend with thousand of years of statues w/ stories that are still with us, buddist and hindu stories, winders if they know their meaning would have relivance so so many eos into the future
    Rhiannon Dragoone: steve, I think they did; they were universalistic in their perspective
    Lucinda Lavender: amazing
    SophiaSharon Larnia: meaning formed by the creators
    Archmage Atlantis: I wonder if our electronic communication will have that
    Calvino Rabeni: Multiple meanings... I'd suggest the meaning of life is no simpler than the totality of life itself
    stevenaia Michinaga: not if they forget the switch
    Rhiannon Dragoone: Meaning in this context means purpose; as in what is the purpose of life.
    Rhiannon Dragoone: The toality of loife itself wouldn't be meaningful apart from life's purpose
    Calvino Rabeni: It seems to have its own purpose coincident with its existence
    Archmage Atlantis: not sure I agree Rhi
    Archmage Atlantis: The purpose of life is to continue to life
    stevenaia Michinaga: so each of us exist to move things forward one step
    Rhiannon Dragoone: What else can it mean, Arch?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: move to where
    stevenaia Michinaga: ahead :)
    Lila Utu: purpose can be to share a legacy
    SophiaSharon Larnia: laughs
    Rhiannon Dragoone: It could have it's own purpose; i'm not suggesting it has to be assigned by some supernatural agency.
    Archmage Atlantis: Perhaps there is something beyond life
    Rhiannon Dragoone: Sophia, Cleveland
    Lila Utu: leave something that will survive you
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ok
    stevenaia Michinaga: memories
    Paradise Tennant: children - our message to a time we will not see ? ?
    Calvino Rabeni: Purpose is to share a legacy ... yes

    Archmage Atlantis: Something beyond children, beyond what we can create and see
    Rhiannon Dragoone: That would be one purpose--like in Erikson's generative stage of life
    Rhiannon Dragoone: Arch, something transcendent, perhaps?
    Archmage Atlantis: We would likely see it as transcendent
    SophiaSharon Larnia: gtg, have fun everyone :)
    Rhiannon Dragoone: tc Sophia
    oO0Oo Resident: bye SSL :)
    Rhiannon Dragoone: Then it could aim at a supernatural focus, if not be rooted in it
    Archmage Atlantis: Yes Rhi,.....but it would still be us
    Calvino Rabeni: I suppose we call something transcendent when we have a hard time understanding it
    Paradise Tennant: waves at ssl :) nite nite
    Lucinda Lavender: But perhaps we can observe them...maybe that is all there is to do..observe them
    Lucinda Lavender: by SSL:)
    Calvino Rabeni: Observation is a name for a certain type of interaction, is it not?
    Lucinda Lavender: :)
    Rhiannon Dragoone: gtg Sorry; feels like I just got here
    Lucinda Lavender: Luci is just back from yoga where observing was mentioned
    Calvino Rabeni: Leaving so soon ?
    Archmage Atlantis: in some meanings, yes, Cal
    Paradise Tennant: smiles good nite rhia nice to have you join us ..even if briefly:) namaste
    Calvino Rabeni: Take care Rhia.. fly well
    Rhiannon Dragoone: 'fraid so; Roslayn need mse
    Archmage Atlantis: Sheshall, Cal, Sheshall
    Rhiannon Dragoone wavesa and poofs
    oO0Oo Resident: ntsy Rhi :)
    Lucinda Lavender: Rhi...nice to see you...
    Paradise Tennant: maybe we are each a little meaning of life .. a kind of subjective translation of energy motion :)
    Archmage Atlantis: Parden me....I may need to exit with a flourish....or a dud......we shall see......but I do need to exit
    Calvino Rabeni: Cinda, what came up in the Yoga class?
    stevenaia Michinaga: bye Arch
    Calvino Rabeni: Arch, you're good at that
    Calvino Rabeni: Looking poised to fly to heaven
    Paradise Tennant: good nite arch sweet dreams ..namaste my friend:)
    oO0Oo Resident: tc Arch, ntsy :)
    Calvino Rabeni: Take care
    Lucinda Lavender: that when images and memories come up they can be oberved:)with the movement of energy this happens I guess
    oO0Oo Resident looks heavenward
    Lucinda Lavender: happy travels Arch:)
    Paradise Tennant: smiles nice wings arch :)))
    stevenaia Michinaga: nice exit
    Lucinda Lavender: sitting back and observing
    Calvino Rabeni: That must help somehow with the meaning of life question, otherwise it would not be recommended so frequently in yoga schools and other places
    Lila Utu nods
    Calvino Rabeni: but I think there are some extra ingredients that come into play in the yoga schools
    Calvino Rabeni: that people don't understand at first
    Calvino Rabeni: and maybe at some point there is an "aha" type of thing
    Lila Utu: we use mantra in kundalini yoga
    Lucinda Lavender: curious about what the other things are...
    Lila Utu: it isn't about arriving at a point after X hours of practice
    Lila Utu: it is the realization it was already there
    Paradise Tennant: yes !
    Calvino Rabeni: What in the yoga class seems a little out of the ordinary, Cinda?
    Lucinda Lavender: the deep quietness...
    Lucinda Lavender: the warm energy moving through the body is what is newly pointed out and most interesting
    Lucinda Lavender: like warm water

    Calvino Rabeni: It's a practice too .. the instructions give some hints or how-to's, is that true?
    Lucinda Lavender: yes...we were given the direction not to focus on the image we have of the pose...
    Lucinda Lavender: or what our neighbor is doing
    Lucinda Lavender: but to allow winds to move up through ourselves like a hollow bamboo
    Calvino Rabeni nods
    Calvino Rabeni: poetic
    Lucinda Lavender: quiet lovely...
    Calvino Rabeni: yes
    Paradise Tennant: well opening up to the flow of life .. its joy ... like how digging a tennis ball from under a couch can bring joy to a dog's face :))) a joy that suffuses his whole body in riggling spasms of happy :)))
    Calvino Rabeni: being reminded to embody a certain quality
    oO0Oo Resident: lol
    Lucinda Lavender: :)))joyful ...
    Lila Utu: friend asked today why can't we always stay at the high plateau instead of riding waves up and down?
    oO0Oo Resident: what do you think Lila?
    Lila Utu: if we didn't have the valley we'd get bored by the peaks
    Lila Utu: you know how you drive toward the mountains
    Paradise Tennant: yes .. too many peaks very very dull :)
    Lila Utu: they look so big
    Paradise Tennant: smiles
    Lila Utu: then once on top it seems different
    Paradise Tennant: the valleys are the dramatic bits
    Lila Utu: yes!
    oO0Oo Resident remembers the feeling of being on a mountaintop
    Lila Utu: like we have a packet of anti-matter in our pockets ???
    oO0Oo Resident: lol
    Lucinda Lavender: The hills are alive...
    stevenaia Michinaga: are we breaking into song?
    Calvino Rabeni: We did earlier :)
    oO0Oo Resident: la lala la
    Paradise Tennant: most certainly laughter :))
    Lucinda Lavender: what is anti matter tho?
    oO0Oo Resident: the songs we have sung.... for a thousand years
    Lila Utu: the word "alive" often brings me to "Young Frankenstein" memories
    Calvino Rabeni: :)
    Lila Utu: a different sort of movie
    oO0Oo Resident: hehe
    Calvino Rabeni: That echoes the heaven, earth, and man idea from earlier
    Lila Utu: indeed - I've wondered - anti-matter
    Lila Utu: a question for a physicist
    Lucinda Lavender: has a catchy name...
    stevenaia Michinaga: matter/antimater, yin/yang
    Lila Utu: I don't think those are equivalent
    Lila Utu: the yin yang indicate that one is contained in the other
    Lila Utu: is that also true of matter/antimatter?
    stevenaia Michinaga: no, they are compliments
    stevenaia Michinaga: you can;t have one w/o the other
    Lila Utu: but with yin yang each carries inside it the dot/seed of the other within itself
    Calvino Rabeni: antimatter is matter that is wound in the opposite direction .. if you bring it together with matter, the windings cancel and you have free energy
    Lucinda Lavender: :)
    Paradise Tennant: :)
    Lucinda Lavender: free energy...sounds interesting as well
    Paradise Tennant: yes !
    Paradise Tennant: unfettered !
    Lila Utu: holding the space for that free energy to empower my automobile so I don't have to buy gas
    Paradise Tennant: smiles :)))
    oO0Oo Resident: lol

    Lila Utu: thanks for including me, Paradise, and everyone ???
    Lila Utu: must go
    Lucinda Lavender: yes...nice to meet you Lila:)
    Paradise Tennant: smiles good nite lila always nice to see you :))
    Calvino Rabeni: I'd like my neighborhood rearranged so whatever I like is near enough for a me-powered vehicle to reach easily
    Lila Utu: you too!
    Calvino Rabeni: Yes Lila, thanks for stopping by
    oO0Oo Resident: Nice to meet you Lila, tc
    Paradise Tennant: sigh I should go too.. or I will start my week squinty eyed :)) thank you all for the company ..the conversation .. the taste of free energy :)))
    Paradise Tennant: waves all round .. namaste my friends :))
    Calvino Rabeni waves
    Calvino Rabeni: _/!\_
    Lucinda Lavender: namaste Paradise:)
    Lucinda Lavender: Cal I like the idea too...
    stevenaia Michinaga: night paradise
    Lucinda Lavender: taking the bus involves 2 buses
    oO0Oo Resident: all the best para :)
    Calvino Rabeni: Or, another alternative is for the things one needs to travel and come to where one is ..
    Lucinda Lavender: yes:)
    Calvino Rabeni: Which works well in some economies
    stevenaia Michinaga: time for me to leave too, thanks for a lovely evening Cal, and luci and 0
    Calvino Rabeni: expecially if one has a love for simple traditional things
    Lucinda Lavender: night Stevenaia:)
    Calvino Rabeni: YW, be well Stevenaia
    oO0Oo Resident: goodnight Stevenaia... rest soundly, dream well
    Lucinda Lavender: Any dreams of late?
    Lucinda Lavender: I am not remembering them...
    oO0Oo Resident: to love this planet we live on is to seek a simpler life
    Calvino Rabeni: I had too much sleep deficit to easily remember the dreams
    Lucinda Lavender: yes
    Alfred Kelberry: meep!
    Lucinda Lavender: Hi Boxy?
    oO0Oo Resident: Hiya boxy :)
    Alfred Kelberry: way past the session time :)
    Calvino Rabeni: Hello Alfred
    oO0Oo Resident: brbr
    Alfred Kelberry: eager pabers are still here :)
    Calvino Rabeni: I was thinking .. it's not exactly a "simpler life" scenario, but what if we could
    Calvino Rabeni: What if we could dis-aggregate the consumer supply chain (sorry for the jargon) such that anyone could operate a mom & pop business and supply goods to ones neighbors
    Lucinda Lavender: Luci likes that idea
    Lucinda Lavender: we can make bread and eggs
    Calvino Rabeni: like Amazon did for small book stores and other businesses, handling the ordering and payments but not the sourcing and delivery
    Calvino Rabeni: so I could ask for "full ripe mangos" and someone in my neighborhood would bring them
    Lucinda Lavender: that would bee nice

    Here's a different take on the same idea .. the "gift economy" that could be enabled by reusing the consumer economy technology:  http://www.justfortheloveofit.org/thedeal#video

    Alfred Kelberry: it'll be more expensive
    Calvino Rabeni: Yes expenses are relative to a lot of factors
    Calvino Rabeni: if you want quantity, drive miles to Costco
    Calvino Rabeni: and the unit price is lower
    Calvino Rabeni: but not the quality per price
    Calvino Rabeni: this is where "simplicity" comes in
    Calvino Rabeni: wanting fewer things of higher quality
    Calvino Rabeni: life used to be that way
    oO0Oo Resident: back
    Lucinda Lavender: I am part of a coop for chicken feed
    Calvino Rabeni: that's a good example Cinda
    Calvino Rabeni: And, once I helped in the delivery :)
    Lucinda Lavender: and there were chicks for sale today...and books...
    Alfred Kelberry: cal, i agree that we have too much stuff in our homes
    Lucinda Lavender: :)
    Alfred Kelberry: half of them not being used
    Calvino Rabeni: the technical machinery of Amazon e.g. could enable lots of co-op-ing
    Lucinda Lavender: true...
    oO0Oo Resident: sounds lovely Luci

    Lucinda Lavender: I need to go soon...but hope you all have sweet dreams...
    Calvino Rabeni: Or some other infrastructure to make the connections
    Alfred Kelberry: luci goes to dream :)
    Calvino Rabeni: And I, go to seek a full ripe mango
    Lucinda Lavender: :)
    Lucinda Lavender: nice
    Alfred Kelberry: meep!
    Calvino Rabeni: which came from some tropical place .. not a case of "eat local" :)
    Lucinda Lavender: meep
    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    Calvino Rabeni: I'd like it if the produce came with its travel stories
    Lucinda Lavender: that would be a learning experience then
    Calvino Rabeni: I need to depart also
    Calvino Rabeni: Good evening everyone
    oO0Oo Resident: energy to those departing, free energy to all
    Calvino Rabeni: dream of learning journeys
    Lucinda Lavender: nice
    Calvino Rabeni: Bye :)
    Lucinda Lavender: yes
    Alfred Kelberry: cal, i actually sometimes imagine how a fruit that i'm about to nibble was gathered
    oO0Oo Resident: is that a nibble or a bit Boxy ;)
    Alfred Kelberry: then how it was traveled in a box on a ship or plane maybe
    oO0Oo Resident: or a byte? lol
    Alfred Kelberry: nom nom :P
    oO0Oo Resident smiles
    oO0Oo Resident: smash dem bugs
    Alfred Kelberry: aww, cute bunny :) http://nomnomtruck.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/nom-nom-nom.jpg
    Alfred Kelberry: reminds me of gaya :)
    oO0Oo Resident: OMG, so cute
    oO0Oo Resident: we could talk about emotions
    oO0Oo Resident: or, even feel them
    Alfred Kelberry: ok... i want honey
    oO0Oo Resident: honey was the name of a rabbit that lived with me once. house trained. I loved her.
    Alfred Kelberry: cute :)
    oO0Oo Resident: and her mate was named moon
    oO0Oo Resident: i was sad when they died
    Alfred Kelberry: :(
    Alfred Kelberry: bunnies don't live long
    oO0Oo Resident: fortunately sadness also passes
    Alfred Kelberry: otherwise the world would be full of grief
    oO0Oo Resident: then we'd all be griefers ;)
    Alfred Kelberry: i think we are for some people
    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    oO0Oo Resident: :)

    oO0Oo Resident: ntsy Alred
    Alfred Kelberry: night :)
    oO0Oo Resident: night
    oO0Oo Resident: tc

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