2011.04.06 13:00 - meanwhile, I wonder how many of us are still playing with the 9-sec pauses . .

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    The guardian for this session was Fefonz Quan, Eliza posted this session from the auto-logger...

     

    [13:13] Wol Euler: hello susan
    [13:13] iwandertoo Resident: waves
    [13:21] Wol Euler: hello brian
    [13:21] Brian Roop: hello
    [13:21] Brian Roop: well it doesn't look like much is happening hee
    [13:21] Wol Euler: it's a quiet day
    [13:22] Wol Euler: meditative
    [13:22] Brian Roop: i think i'll toddle on
    [13:22] Wol Euler: take care
    [13:22] Brian Roop: tc, bye
    [13:22] iwandertoo Resident: tc
    [13:27] Wol Euler chuckles.
    [13:27] Wol Euler: hello fef
    [13:27] Wol Euler: you're still doing the manbo
    [13:28] iwandertoo Resident: smiles
    [13:28] Wol Euler: boxy
    [13:28] iwandertoo Resident: waves
    [13:28] Wol Euler: stop
    [13:28] Alfred Kelberry: :)
    [13:28] Alfred Kelberry: hi girls :)
    [13:28] Fefonz Quan: Hi all :)
    [13:28] Alfred Kelberry: um, and fef! :)
    [13:28] Alfred Kelberry: wow! new hair, woly :)
    [13:28] Alfred Kelberry: very nice
    [13:29] Wol Euler grins.
    [13:29] Wol Euler: ty
    [13:29] Fefonz Quan: carre, is it called?
    [13:29] Alfred Kelberry: i can tell she's been shopping :)
    [13:29] Wol Euler: I've always been shopping
    [13:29] Wol Euler: that's too easy
    [13:29] Wol Euler: I'm not sure what hte proper name of htis style is, fef.
    [13:29] Alfred Kelberry: well, true
    [13:29] Alfred Kelberry: fef, i think you're close
    [13:31] Alfred Kelberry: ok, it's from french carré
    [13:32] Fefonz Quan: yes, that;s what i thought
    [13:32] Alfred Kelberry: which is a bob in english :)
    [13:32] Wol Euler: aha!
    [13:32] Alfred Kelberry: cute
    [13:32] Wol Euler: :)
    [13:32] Fefonz Quan: not that i would know how to type this apostroph even if i knew it should be there
    [13:33] Alfred Kelberry: :)
    [13:33] Wol Euler: huh
    [13:33] Alfred Kelberry: é <- this one, woly
    [13:33] Alfred Kelberry: accent
    [13:33] Wol Euler: é
    [13:33] Wol Euler: è
    [13:33] Fefonz Quan: e
    [13:33] Wol Euler: on my keyboard, it's a two-stroke operation, first the accent (left of the delete key) then the vowel that goes with it
    [13:33] Wol Euler: á
    [13:34] Wol Euler: ò
    [13:34] Wol Euler: ú
    [13:34] Alfred Kelberry: Ñ‘ :)
    [13:34] Fefonz Quan: `e
    [13:34] Wol Euler: nearly :)
    [13:34] Wol Euler: dunno why that doesn't work for you
    [13:34] Wol Euler: hello eliza!
    [13:35] Alfred Kelberry: eliza! :)
    [13:35] Wol Euler smiles warmly
    [13:35] Fefonz Quan: maybe because there is no key to the left of my delete
    [13:35] Eliza Madrigal: Hi Wol :)) wow, such a new look and hair... nice
    [13:35] Wol Euler: well, you clearly do have the accent, but it doesn't get added to the vowel
    [13:35] Alfred Kelberry: just a different keyboard layout
    [13:35] Wol Euler: ty :)
    [13:35] Eliza Madrigal: Hi Fef, Boxy, Susan :)
    [13:35] iwandertoo Resident: waves
    [13:35] iwandertoo Resident: brb
    [13:35] Fefonz Quan: hey liza
    [13:36] Wol Euler: hello pema
    [13:36] Alfred Kelberry: pema-san :)
    [13:36] Fefonz Quan: Hello Pema
    [13:36] Eliza Madrigal: HI Pema
    [13:36] Fefonz Quan: nice BUddha-eyes Eliza
    [13:36] Eliza Madrigal: TY Fef :)
    [13:36] Pema Pera: hi everybody!
    [13:37] Alfred Kelberry: btw, i've found out recently that the word "buddhism" was invented in the eary 19 century and there's no "ism" in asian languages :)
    [13:37] Wol Euler is surprised, and skeptical
    [13:37] Fefonz Quan: so it should work for hinduism as well :)
    [13:38] Alfred Kelberry: also, some pali canon scholars claim that "meditation" itself is a concept (as westerners understand it) not found in buddhism
    [13:39] Alfred Kelberry: we see it as introspection then the early text proposes awareness of the totally of what's going on right now
    [13:39] Fefonz Quan: as far as i know, the group of practices we call 'meditation' has different words for different types in buddhism
    [13:39] iwandertoo Resident: back
    [13:40] Fefonz Quan: Vipassanna, Shamata, are just a few i guess
    [13:40] Alfred Kelberry: yes
    [13:41] Fefonz Quan: and that may also differ for different languages of differnt people in south east asia
    [13:42] Alfred Kelberry: i think it's a matter of terms, but they come to grow and carry the meaning which may be skewed
    [13:43] Pema Pera: it's hard to believe we are now in our fourth year . . .
    [13:43] iwandertoo Resident: what is the impact - ref to "skewed"?
    [13:43] Wol Euler smiles.
    [13:43] Eliza Madrigal: Hi Arch :)
    [13:43] Fefonz Quan: yes, even Time flies when you're having fun :)
    [13:43] Wol Euler: hello arch
    [13:43] Pema Pera: hi Arch!
    [13:43] iwandertoo Resident: waves
    [13:43] Fefonz Quan: Hi Arch!
    [13:44] Archmage Atlantis: It's difficult to believe I'm in my 3rd year
    [13:44] Pema Pera waiting for boxy's skewedness answer :-)


    [13:44] Pema Pera: meanwhile, I wonder how many of us are still playing with the 9-sec pauses . . .
    [13:44] Alfred Kelberry: susan, early western scholars of buddhism saw it through the background of christian teaching
    [13:44] Pema Pera: whether it has become second nature or forgotten :)
    [13:44] Fefonz Quan: I sometimes play with them at work. i have a popup reminder
    [13:44] Wol Euler is going to try again, after a very long time-out from them
    [13:44] Alfred Kelberry: all the differences that i mentioned are the result of it
    [13:45] iwandertoo Resident: is there not similar states in hebraic and christian txts from centuries ago?
    [13:45] Alfred Kelberry: presumably
    [13:45] Archmage Atlantis: And the shamen saw there was good.
    [13:45] Archmage Atlantis: Yes, Susan......and from the stories of humanity
    [13:47] Alfred Kelberry: 9 sec...
    [13:47] Alfred Kelberry: i forgot, i confess :)
    [13:47] Pema Pera: Susan, if I may ask, have you tried the 9-sec breaks?
    [13:47] Archmage Atlantis: And all shamen believe the good will prevail
    [13:47] iwandertoo Resident: my understanding is that when one is going through seminary or rabbinical school - there a similar state of being from the depth of what they are reaching to understand...that moment of "clicking" without effort
    [13:47] iwandertoo Resident: "things make sense without sense"
    [13:48] Pema Pera: that's very interesting, Susan!
    [13:48] Archmage Atlantis: That Susan, is the 9
    [13:48] Fefonz Quan: (Suan?)
    [13:48] Eliza Madrigal: Hi yellow Bleu :)
    [13:48] Fefonz Quan: s
    [13:48] Alfred Kelberry: bleu :)
    [13:48] Eliza Madrigal: Hi Sharon :)
    [13:48] Pema Pera: did you have that kind of experience?
    [13:48] Bleu Oleander: hi everyone
    [13:48] iwandertoo Resident: not my way...nor can i say i understand beyond an intellectual understanding
    [13:48] Pema Pera: hi Bleu and Sharon!
    [13:48] Wol Euler: hello bleu, sharon
    [13:48] iwandertoo Resident: waves
    [13:48] Alfred Kelberry: neko girl :)
    [13:48] SophiaSharon Larnia: hi everyone :))
    [13:48] Fefonz Quan: Hi Bleu
    [13:49] Fefonz Quan: Hy Sharon
    [13:49] Pema Pera: but perhaps some incling (@ Susan)
    [13:49] iwandertoo Resident: i dont think so, pema. it's the process of seeing others think...that i have an affinity for. (if this makes sense)
    [13:49] Archmage Atlantis: Dang Fefonz
    [13:50] Archmage Atlantis: I was hoping for an orphan session
    [13:50] Fefonz Quan: (Dang?)
    [13:50] Pema Pera: sure, it does!
    [13:50] Pema Pera: at the same time, the affinity itself may already be part of the experience
    [13:50] Fefonz Quan: it can be reorphaned by your wish Arch ;-)
    [13:50] Pema Pera: and lead to further familiarity
    [13:50] iwandertoo Resident: yes, true.
    [13:51] Archmage Atlantis: No
    [13:51] Pema Pera: did you try the 9 second breaks (and have you heard about them)?
    [13:51] Archmage Atlantis: A child claimed is a child loved
    [13:51] SophiaSharon Larnia: hi eggsalad
    [13:51] Fefonz Quan: helo eggsalas
    [13:51] Wol Euler: hello egg, unusual to see you here at this time
    [13:51] eggsalad Ormstein: hi sophia
    [13:51] Pema Pera: hi Egg!
    [13:51] eggsalad Ormstein: hi fef
    [13:51] Archmage Atlantis: Hey Egg
    [13:51] eggsalad Ormstein: hi wol, same to you!
    [13:52] eggsalad Ormstein: hi pema!
    [13:52] eggsalad Ormstein: hi arch
    [13:52] Bleu Oleander: hi egg
    [13:52] eggsalad Ormstein: hi bleu!
    [13:52] Wol Euler: (we interrupted Susan, please continue)
    [13:52] iwandertoo Resident: please?
    [13:52] Eliza Madrigal: (Hi Eggsalad)
    [13:52] Pema Pera: the 9 seconds, Susan, have you heard of them?
    [13:53] Archmage Atlantis: The stars align, or if astrohysicts choose
    [13:53] iwandertoo Resident: i have. not quite there yet. just getting back into sitting.
    [13:53] Pema Pera: sure, whenever you feel like!
    [13:53] Pema Pera: it's not that hard though, just to try and so nothing (or less) for nine seconds :-)
    [13:53] Pema Pera: *do nothing
    [13:54] Pema Pera: hi Cris
    [13:54] Archmage Atlantis: 0
    [13:54] Archmage Atlantis: 1
    [13:54] Archmage Atlantis: 2
    [13:54] Archmage Atlantis: 3
    [13:54] Archmage Atlantis: 4
    [13:54] Archmage Atlantis: 5
    [13:54] Archmage Atlantis: 6
    [13:54] Archmage Atlantis: 7
    [13:54] Archmage Atlantis: 8
    [13:54] Archmage Atlantis: 9
    [13:54] SophiaSharon Larnia: hi cristaloune
    [13:54] Wol Euler: hello cristaloun, take a seat and join us
    [13:54] Alfred Kelberry: archy, that's 10
    [13:54] cristaloune Resident: hi all !
    [13:54] iwandertoo Resident: waves
    [13:54] Archmage Atlantis: i KNOW
    [13:54] Wol Euler: have you been here before?
    [13:54] eggsalad Ormstein: hi christa
    [13:54] Eliza Madrigal: Hi Christaloune, welcome
    [13:54] Alfred Kelberry: hi, cris
    [13:55] cristaloune Resident: thanks
    [13:55] cristaloune Resident: no
    [13:55] Wol Euler: ok, I'll give you an introduction in IM so we don'T disturb the others
    [13:55] cristaloune Resident: what is it ?
    [13:55] Eliza Madrigal: Hi Cal
    [13:55] SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Cal, and here is a full circle :)
    [13:55] Eliza Madrigal: :)
    [13:56] Pema Pera: hi Cal!
    [13:56] Calvino Rabeni: Hi everyone :)
    [13:56] iwandertoo Resident: waves
    [13:56] Alfred Kelberry: cal :)
    [13:56] SophiaSharon Larnia: (counting boxy, who isnt sitting) <3
    [13:56] Alfred Kelberry: huh?/
    [13:56] SophiaSharon Larnia: ah well...
    [13:57] Eliza Madrigal: I have to run already... but nice to sit with you all and this will remind me about the 9 seconds for the rest of the day :)
    [13:58] Wol Euler smiles.
    [13:58] SophiaSharon Larnia: :) bye Eliza
    [13:58] Bleu Oleander ⊱ smiles ⊰
    [13:58] Wol Euler: bye eliza, take care
    [13:58] iwandertoo Resident: waves
    [13:58] Eliza Madrigal: Thanks! Bye for now
    [13:58] Bleu Oleander: bye Eliza
    [13:58] cristaloune Resident: bye ;)
    [13:58] Pema Pera: bye Eliza!
    [13:58] Fefonz Quan: I'll have to go to sleep, had a very exhausting day
    [13:58] Archmage Atlantis: When does a robodog sit?
    [13:59] SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Fefonz :)
    [13:59] Fefonz Quan: Night all!
    [13:59] Wol Euler: bye fef, take care
    [13:59] Bleu Oleander: bye Fefonz
    [13:59] Archmage Atlantis: Are there robo commands?
    [13:59] cristaloune Resident: good night ;)
    [13:59] cristaloune Resident: byye
    [13:59] Fefonz Quan: /,e waves
    [13:59] Archmage Atlantis: Go to your baby Fef
    [13:59] Pema Pera: time for me to leave to
    [13:59] SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Pema :))
    [13:59] Pema Pera: nice seeing you all !
    [13:59] Bleu Oleander: bye Pema
    [13:59] iwandertoo Resident: waves. best to everyone.
    [13:59] cristaloune Resident: bye
    [13:59] SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Susan
    [14:00] Archmage Atlantis: Aloha Susan
    [14:01] Agatha Macbeth: Greetings
    [14:01] cristaloune Resident: hi
    [14:01] Bleu Oleander: hi Aggers
    [14:01] SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Aggers :)
    [14:01] Archmage Atlantis: Namaste, Aggers
    [14:01] Wol Euler: hello aggers
    [14:01] Alfred Kelberry: :)
    [14:01] Alfred Kelberry: aga girl :)
    [14:02] Agatha Macbeth: How's yer nose Boxy?
    [14:02] cristaloune Resident: I'm going to leave you too much but thank you for this moment. good night all
    [14:02] Wol Euler: bye crista, take care
    [14:02] Archmage Atlantis: Should we continue to record??
    [14:02] Wol Euler: yes
    [14:02] Wol Euler: IMHO
    [14:02] cristaloune Resident: thanks
    [14:02] SophiaSharon Larnia: bye cristaloune :)
    [14:02] cristaloune Resident: you too
    [14:02] cristaloune Resident: byyye ;)
    [14:02] Bleu Oleander: bye cristaloune
    [14:02] Agatha Macbeth: Bye
    [14:02] Alfred Kelberry: che aga :)
    [14:03] Agatha Macbeth: Not Guevara?
    [14:03] Alfred Kelberry: not manly enough :)
    [14:03] Agatha Macbeth: Don't cry for me...etc
    [14:03] Agatha Macbeth: Oh, ty:)
    [14:03] Alfred Kelberry: hehe
    [14:04] Bleu Oleander: sing it Aggers
    [14:04] Agatha Macbeth loves compliments
    [14:04] SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    [14:04] Archmage Atlantis: Che was an idealist.....idealists tend to breed dictators
    [14:04] Archmage Atlantis: As did Marx
    [14:05] Alfred Kelberry: the box is for you, aga :)
    [14:05] SophiaSharon Larnia: heh
    [14:05] Agatha Macbeth looks
    [14:06] Alfred Kelberry: hey! tantalizing 2 times?! :)
    [14:06] SophiaSharon Larnia: :DD
    [14:06] Wol Euler: preciousssssssssssssssss
    [14:06] Agatha Macbeth: Well, it certainly is oniscient :p
    [14:06] Archmage Atlantis: Aggers is a person
    [14:06] Agatha Macbeth: +m
    [14:06] Archmage Atlantis: Not an ideal
    [14:06] Alfred Kelberry: wee!
    [14:06] Agatha Macbeth: Eek
    [14:06] SophiaSharon Larnia: new statements boxy
    [14:07] Alfred Kelberry: yes, some :)
    [14:07] Wol Euler: oh, that's interesting. How does it know her gender, or was that a lucky guess?
    [14:07] Bleu Oleander: talk about dropping :)
    [14:07] Alfred Kelberry: but never enough for aga :)
    [14:07] Alfred Kelberry: she's a special customer :)
    [14:07] Agatha Macbeth: It's perceptive :)
    [14:07] SophiaSharon Larnia: hah
    [14:07] Archmage Atlantis: Remember Lord of the Rings, one to wear them
    [14:07] Archmage Atlantis: Tales are true
    [14:08] Agatha Macbeth: Ah, good old Sauron
    [14:08] Alfred Kelberry: i've only seen one movie
    [14:08] Wol Euler: you should get out more
    [14:08] Alfred Kelberry: :)
    [14:08] Agatha Macbeth: Read the book, it's way better
    [14:08] Wol Euler: there are dozens released every year, you know
    [14:08] Alfred Kelberry: aga, yes, it's trendy to say that a book is better :)
    [14:08] Archmage Atlantis: I started with Ivanhoe
    [14:08] Wol Euler: not trendy, just true
    [14:08] Agatha Macbeth: And true, usually
    [14:08] Agatha Macbeth: snap
    [14:08] Wol Euler: the book is almost always better than the film
    [14:08] Wol Euler: IMHO
    [14:08] Archmage Atlantis: It is true
    [14:09] Bleu Oleander: :)
    [14:09] Alfred Kelberry: if you read a book first, especially true :)
    [14:09] Agatha Macbeth: Films leave too much out owing to time constraints
    [14:09] Wol Euler: mmhmm
    [14:09] SophiaSharon Larnia: yes can be disappointing
    [14:09] Alfred Kelberry: which is... well, obvious
    [14:09] Agatha Macbeth: East of eden was only the last quarter of the book
    [14:09] Wol Euler: why aren't films 19 hours long?
    [14:09] Wol Euler: that way they could get in more of the story
    [14:09] Agatha Macbeth: Blade runner was similar
    [14:09] Archmage Atlantis: Till Avatar, no movie captured the moment
    [14:10] Agatha Macbeth: Well, time contraints on actors, producers, studios etc
    [14:10] Archmage Atlantis: The junction of time/space/life
    [14:10] Bleu Oleander: bye everyone :)
    [14:10] Bleu Oleander: take care
    [14:10] Wol Euler: bye bleu, take care
    [14:10] Agatha Macbeth: Plus everybody needs paying of course!
    [14:10] SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Belu :)
    [14:10] Agatha Macbeth: Bye bleu
    [14:10] Agatha Macbeth: Or Belu
    [14:10] Wol Euler: "Belu" would be a nice name
    [14:10] Agatha Macbeth: Belu lugosi's dead
    [14:10] Archmage Atlantis: Of course gges
    [14:10] Wol Euler: mmhmm
    [14:11] Alfred Kelberry: when you read a book, you're a tabula rasa so to speak. then when you come to see a movie you have all the baggage of judgment and expectations.
    [14:11] Agatha Macbeth: Undead, undead, undead
    [14:11] Wol Euler grins.
    [14:11] Archmage Atlantis: Bein Human
    [14:11] SophiaSharon Larnia: ive just started watching that
    [14:11] Agatha Macbeth: Isn't that a kind of drum?
    [14:12] Archmage Atlantis: UK or US version SS?
    [14:12] SophiaSharon Larnia: oh us version
    [14:12] SophiaSharon Larnia: i tried the uk version, didnt like it
    [14:12] Archmage Atlantis: It is darker
    [14:12] SophiaSharon Larnia: its rather insipid, but so am i sometimes
    [14:12] Archmage Atlantis: the UK version
    [14:13] Agatha Macbeth: Nonsense :p
    [14:13] SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    [14:13] Wol Euler: :)
    [14:13] Archmage Atlantis: My goodness, prejudgeness
    [14:14] SophiaSharon Larnia: i dont i just think the main character in it is hot
    [14:14] SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    [14:14] Wol Euler: heheh
    [14:14] Archmage Atlantis: That is an honest comment, ty
    [14:14] SophiaSharon Larnia: ;0
    [14:17] Alfred Kelberry: oh
    [14:17] Alfred Kelberry: isnt' it ways of knowing right now?
    [14:17] Wol Euler: thursady
    [14:17] Wol Euler: *thursday
    [14:17] Agatha Macbeth: Yep, tomorrow
    [14:17] Alfred Kelberry: um
    [14:17] Archmage Atlantis: Broken bells
    [14:17] Alfred Kelberry: ok
    [14:17] Archmage Atlantis: They see my shells
    [14:17] Wol Euler: one more sleep
    [14:17] Alfred Kelberry: right :)
    [14:17] Wol Euler giggles.
    [14:18] SophiaSharon Larnia: iterestong poem arch
    [14:18] SophiaSharon Larnia: interesting*
    [14:18] Archmage Atlantis: ty
    [14:19] SophiaSharon Larnia: bye everyone, off to make dinner :)
    [14:19] Alfred Kelberry: what's for dinner?
    [14:19] SophiaSharon Larnia: have fun <3
    [14:19] Agatha Macbeth: Enjoy Shaz :)
    [14:19] SophiaSharon Larnia: chicken stew i made int he crockpot
    [14:19] SophiaSharon Larnia: ha
    [14:19] Alfred Kelberry: neat :)
    [14:19] Wol Euler: bye sharon, bon appetit
    [14:19] Archmage Atlantis: Boxy reminds me of someone I once knew well
    [14:19] Agatha Macbeth: Hope the chicken was dead first
    [14:19] SophiaSharon Larnia: bye for now
    [14:20] SophiaSharon Larnia: :P
    [14:20] Alfred Kelberry: archy, you mentioned it once :)
    [14:20] Alfred Kelberry: deja vu
    [14:20] Archmage Atlantis: Notonly dead, but plucked
    [14:20] Wol Euler: and gutted
    [14:20] Agatha Macbeth: Birds of a feather
    [14:20] Wol Euler: as long as we're being accurate
    [14:20] Alfred Kelberry: and tasted
    [14:21] Archmage Atlantis: archy is a cc commings roach
    [14:21] Alfred Kelberry: and digested
    [14:21] Alfred Kelberry: and...
    [14:21] Alfred Kelberry: circle of life
    [14:21] Archmage Atlantis: Amd a bot persistet
    [14:22] Archmage Atlantis: Blessings, Namaste & Shalom
    [14:22] Alfred Kelberry: bye
    [14:22] Wol Euler: bye arch
    [14:22] Agatha Macbeth: Shalom Archie
    [14:22] Alfred Kelberry: cal is unusually quiet today
    [14:23] Agatha Macbeth: He's meditating :)
    [14:23] Alfred Kelberry: ah
    [14:23] Calvino Rabeni: Hey Boxy
    [14:23] Alfred Kelberry: practice mindfulness maybe?
    [14:23] Alfred Kelberry: hi :)
    [14:23] Wol Euler: my dears, I'm feeling pretty grim, and going to bed early. Goodnight, take care, be well
    [14:24] Alfred Kelberry: grim?
    [14:24] Alfred Kelberry: :(
    [14:24] Wol Euler: sick
    [14:24] Agatha Macbeth: One of the brothers
    [14:24] Alfred Kelberry: aww, still
    [14:24] Wol Euler: yeah
    [14:24] Wol Euler: goodnight :)
    [14:24] Alfred Kelberry: ok, lay down and get well
    [14:24] Calvino Rabeni: Bye Wol, take care
    [14:24] Wol Euler: ty
    [14:24] Agatha Macbeth: Bye for now
    [14:24] Alfred Kelberry: che girl!
    [14:24] Alfred Kelberry: bye
     

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