2011.04.17 01:00 - Comfort zones

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    Wol Euler was guardian for this session.


    Wol Euler: hello qt
    Qt Core: 'morning Wol
    Wol Euler: how are you today?
    Qt Core: phisically well, a little angry at myself for not being in Assisi
    Wol Euler nods.
    Wol Euler: I can understand that feeling
    Wol Euler: why didn't you go?
    Qt Core: mainly as it felt too far from my confort area, not in phisical distance sense i mean
    Wol Euler nods.
    Qt Core: then, but after i deceded not to go several mundane things are happening these days ;-)
    Wol Euler: ah :)
    Wol Euler: life does tend to happen, doesn't it?
    Qt Core: yes, with incredible bad timing too
    Wol Euler smiles
    Qt Core: i often wonder if Murphy's Laws are some religious dogmas or scientific truths ;-)
    Wol Euler laughs.
    Wol Euler: they are definitely true.
    Qt Core: anyou, how are you today ?
    Wol Euler: pretty well thanks, working this afternoon but only a few hours
    Wol Euler: it's a sunny and warmish day
    Wol Euler: which always raises my spirits
    Qt Core: while i always say that weather hasn't a great meaning to me i found myself pretty happy about last week very warm (ver 25C) weather, past days back to more springtime standard 15/17C
    Wol Euler nods.
    Qt Core: ver=about... how i misspelled that ?)
    Wol Euler: ha, I hadn't noticed. I read it correctly
    Wol Euler: perhaps from french, vers
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Wol Euler: we read each other so tolerantly here :)
    Qt Core: improbable, my ugly french isn't lurking at my fingertips usually ;-)
    Wol Euler: a happy coincidence then
    Wol Euler: the thing about comfort zones is this:
    Wol Euler: they can come to feel tiny and constraining
    Wol Euler: like the peak of a very steeply rising mountain
    Wol Euler: so one feels that one will fall for miles if one steps out
    Qt Core: or the top room in the classic ivory tower
    Wol Euler: right


    Wol Euler: there is no "outside" to be had from the zone itself
    Wol Euler: but you can also see the comfort zone as a circle drawn with a stick in the sand of a wide and flat beach :)
    Wol Euler: stepping outside is much easier then
    Qt Core: like the image
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Wol Euler: I think of these images because I need them for myself, to help me understand
    Wol Euler: I too have troubles with my comfort zones :)
    Wol Euler: going to my first RL retreat was a real stretch
    Qt Core: i noticed a thing in the pause
    Qt Core: i find it easier to step out of my confort zone if the step is big, instead of just a peek out
    Wol Euler: hmmm :)
    Qt Core: and usually it resulted in something worth the effort :)
    Wol Euler: yep :)
    Wol Euler: so ... why not go to Assisi?
    Qt Core: too near ? still in Italy so the only real "weird" thing would be the retreat itself ?
    Wol Euler nods.
    Wol Euler: well, retreats are pretty wierd if you haven't done one before :)
    Qt Core: ni, never
    Qt Core: nothing that can be called a retreat
    Wol Euler: I was very apprehensive before going to Malta, I had no idea what would happen, and was worried about making a fool of myself in front of the group
    Qt Core: same here :-)
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Wol Euler: but it didn't happen. The retreat was just like a PaB session
    Qt Core: and making it a bad experience for others
    Wol Euler nods.
    Wol Euler: well, I think it's safe to say that I wasn't the only one who felt that way :)
    Wol Euler: but it went well. It was very familiar and comfortable, we are all nice people
    Qt Core: are we ?
    Wol Euler: it's not as though I had gone alone to a place like Plum Village, to be among strangers -- professional meditators!
    Wol Euler smiles. Yes, I think we are. All that I have met in person are very nice.
    Wol Euler: btw: I'm eating these with my coffee :) http://www.mulinobianco.it/colazione...cotti/abbracci
    Qt Core: professional meditators, interesting (and wrong) idea
    Wol Euler: yes, absolutely -- but that is partly what I feared
    Wol Euler: that there would be rituals and standards and secret handshakes, and I wouldn't know them
    Wol Euler: how embarrassing!
    Qt Core: ohh, i know them, quite good
    Wol Euler: there's a little corner shop near me that imports such things
    Qt Core: and then being unable to stay put, calm and composed during meditation times :-)
    Wol Euler: mmhmm
    Wol Euler: and again, if I had gone to a "professional" place like Plum Village or some ashram in India, htat might well have been true
    Wol Euler: but the PaB retreats have been very comfortable, encouraging, uplifting
    Qt Core: like Campagnole, Galletti and Ritornelli


    Wol Euler grins. those look good
    Qt Core: so i just need a pab retreat in a place way far from me phisically and culturally, somewhere in the thailand jungle maybe ?
    Wol Euler: heheheh
    Wol Euler: how about the one that Maxine is organizing on the US pacific coast?
    Wol Euler: it's a lovely area, very beautiful and rugged
    Wol Euler: http://wiki.playasbeing.org/Retreats/2011-09_Seattle_USA
    Qt Core: seaside and mountains ? for a plain's man it is culturally far away :-)
    Wol Euler: but that's what you wanted!?!?!?
    Wol Euler grins.
    Qt Core: i just had a "revelation", going to a retreat would make me travel alone, i not only rarely travel, but i never traveled alone (let say more than a couple hours by car)
    Wol Euler: ah :)
    Wol Euler: so there are several comfort zones to be stepped out of!
    Qt Core: i'm not (yet) fearing it, just surprised
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Qt Core: yes there are and be more aware about flight departures and such ;-)
    Wol Euler nods.
    Wol Euler: but an intercontinental flight is not *substantially* different to a local one, it just lasts far longer
    Wol Euler: you have the same security bullshit, the same drinks, the same not-quite-uncomfortable seats
    Qt Core: i have to go... trvelling a couple km alone by car ;-)
    Wol Euler: ok :)
    Wol Euler: enjoy the day, qt
    Wol Euler: and do think about the retreat....
    Qt Core: yes, you can miss them the same way ;-)
    Wol Euler: yep :)
    Qt Core: bye
    Wol Euler: bye for now

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