2011.04.17 13:00 - apprezzamento

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    The Guardian for this lovely meeting was Eliza Madrigal, filling in for traveling Maxine. :) The few comments are by Eliza Madrigal.

    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Susan, lovely to see you :)
    iwandertoo Resident: waves
    iwandertoo Resident: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: You mentioned a few weeks ago that PaB might help you get back into meditating... are we helping? :))
    iwandertoo Resident: yes, it is
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh, that's wonderful to hear
    iwandertoo Resident: i found it difficult to pay attention to the time...for the 9 second interval
    iwandertoo Resident: but have in general been better
    Eliza Madrigal smiles warmly at Samuo :)
    iwandertoo Resident: waves
    Eliza Madrigal: you know, I found that too... that I couldn't be strict about it but it did help me to think about it overall
    Eliza Madrigal: about pausing, that is
    Eliza Madrigal: and there are days I choose to set the timer
    iwandertoo Resident: i ordered a watch
    iwandertoo Resident: cheating a bit
    Eliza Madrigal: :) not at all
    iwandertoo Resident: one can set it to vibrate every 15 minutes
    oO0Oo Resident: that is such a good idea Susan!
    Eliza Madrigal: that's fantastic

    iwandertoo Resident: one day, perhaps, the pause will be fully integrated and no need for a watch

    Eliza Madrigal: I know iphones and some others have aps and features...
    Eliza Madrigal: yes
    oO0Oo Resident: hiya SSL :) gtsy!
    Eliza Madrigal: seems to be what happens... that one purposefully pays attention to it, then it sort of returns the favor :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Samuo, Eliza and Susan :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Sharon :)
    iwandertoo Resident: waves
    Eliza Madrigal: we've been talking about the pauses a bit, Sharon
    SophiaSharon Larnia: thanks :)
    oO0Oo Resident: attention is its own reward Eliza? ;)
    Eliza Madrigal: seems so!
    Eliza Madrigal: :))
    oO0Oo Resident: a virtue of sorts lol

    SophiaSharon Larnia: i just got an iphone
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i dont even know how to use it yet :)
    oO0Oo Resident: nice SSL
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Qt :)
    Qt Core: hi all
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Qt
    Eliza Madrigal: those with iphones are usually the ones keeping time for us on retreats
    Eliza Madrigal: lots of nice sounds :)
    oO0Oo Resident: hiya Qt.. good to see you :)
    iwandertoo Resident: waves

    oO0Oo Resident: if not building the retreat center ;)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)) Sharon keeps us centered
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ha! I haven't been up there lately to finish, sorry to say
    oO0Oo Resident: may your creativity never end SSL
    Eliza Madrigal: we may not have another retreat this month, and it is still very nice...
    Eliza Madrigal: like the new structure too

    SophiaSharon Larnia: :) ive been making a lot of 'sculptures' tho :)
    oO0Oo Resident: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: oh?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: and making my avatar part of them
    Eliza Madrigal: intriguing
    SophiaSharon Larnia: the tattoo layer makes it so much easier
    SophiaSharon Larnia: (anyway) :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :))

    Eliza Madrigal: We have a pause approaching. Would anyone like to suggest an exploration?
    Eliza Madrigal: or a phrase to ponder?

    oO0Oo Resident: how about
    oO0Oo Resident: happy birthday SSL ;)
    Eliza Madrigal: :D
    SophiaSharon Larnia: thank you Samuo <3
    oO0Oo Resident: hehe

    Eliza Madrigal: Happy Birthday Sharon is a good pause exploration, heh
    SophiaSharon Larnia: eep hahah
    iwandertoo Resident: happy b-day
    Eliza Madrigal: celebrating peace
    Qt Core: happy birthday ssl
    SophiaSharon Larnia: aww im flattered and somewhat embarrassed too *giggles*
    Eliza Madrigal: hehe, it is not cooperating with me
    SophiaSharon Larnia: <3


                       I was having an issue hanging a balloon drop object...

    Eliza Madrigal: :)) well, imagine that I just covered you with balloons SHaron
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hehe :D

    Eliza Madrigal: How do you like birthdays? days of reflections or partying or?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I like to meet friends and family at a restuarant and have a nice meal
    Eliza Madrigal: :))
    oO0Oo Resident: lovely
    Eliza Madrigal: warm company
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i feel like too old to be partying the night away :D
    Eliza Madrigal: hah
    Eliza Madrigal: remembering that you came to PaB around the anniversary time... and I guess around your birthday too :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: although my avatar is looks not a day over 21! :)
    Eliza Madrigal: hehe... what, you aren't 21?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :D
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes i remember that, i didnt tell anyone it was my birthday then
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: or last year, took me 2 yrs to do so LOL
    SophiaSharon Larnia: anyway...
    Eliza Madrigal: you didn't really tell us now...
    Eliza Madrigal giggles
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ha

    oO0Oo Resident: nice colourful sign
    Eliza Madrigal: next best thing to balloons
    SophiaSharon Larnia: the creator of that was in sl in 1/19/2004 dang
    Eliza Madrigal: wow... wonder what SL was like then

    oO0Oo Resident: beautiful... moments of colour and continuance... of appreciation and renewal... of attentions and wakings and (wonders if there is an i-phone app for that.. lol)

    SophiaSharon Larnia: a bell to remind you, maybe :)
    iwandertoo Resident: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: mmmm

    SophiaSharon Larnia: i got pocketmeteverse already on it, i dont know what ill use it for, i couldnt find sparkle
    Eliza Madrigal remembers Eden logging in from India on sparkle
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes!
    Eliza Madrigal: that was cute... she had to linger around the edges for some reason though
    Eliza Madrigal: so maybe a pocketmetaverse will work better :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i dont why either, i thought storm set up some kind of cushion for her
    Eliza Madrigal: yes :)
    Eliza Madrigal: appreciation seems a nice focus for the next pause as well...


    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Steve :)
    Qt Core: hi stevenaia
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Steve :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Hope your brunch was pleasant
    stevenaia Michinaga: hello
    iwandertoo Resident: waves
    Eliza Madrigal wonders if there might be topics on anyone's mind today
    Eliza Madrigal: or stories to share :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: who's birthday is it?
    Eliza Madrigal points to her left
    stevenaia Michinaga: SSL
    Eliza Madrigal: :)) though we're off beat by a day I think
    stevenaia Michinaga: ?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: im trying to tp my alt here on my iphone, turns out you cant do that lol
    oO0Oo Resident: hiya Stevenaia :)

                     Bit of a spontaneous pause...

    Eliza Madrigal: hm
    Eliza Madrigal: I was reading over some of the older sessions about dralas and thinking about forest practice...
    Eliza Madrigal: about how one sort of follows what seems to open up
    Eliza Madrigal: without having to arrive

    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Tara :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: giggle :) omg
    SophiaSharon Larnia: it actually works :)
    oO0Oo Resident: hi Tara :)
    Eliza Madrigal: heh
    Eliza Madrigal: are you able to turn around, etc?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hehe enough of that eh?
    Eliza Madrigal: a Tara sighting
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    oO0Oo Resident: :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i do try to keep her out of the logs i dont know why
    Eliza Madrigal: hope no one blinked
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh, sure... I'll edit that Sharon                      (Sharon specified in IM that it was okay not to :)
    oO0Oo Resident: hehe

             Were I able to read Italian I would have spaced the following properly...

    oO0Oo Resident:

    ritrova gli amici con la consapevolezza nei fenomeni gli universi metaversi all'interno di elementi di questo momento perfetto con lacrime di gioia amorevole occhi spazzato dal vento * * *


    finds friends with awareness
    in phenomena the universes
    metaverses within elements
    of this perfect moment
    with happy tears
    loving windswept eyes

    Eliza Madrigal: oooooh that's beautiful Samuo... moving!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :D samuo, did you write that??
    oO0Oo Resident: reflecting on appreciation.. yes ty
    SophiaSharon Larnia: wonderful
    Eliza Madrigal: happy tears :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: loving windswept eyes
    oO0Oo Resident: Oṃ Tāre Tuttāre Ture Svāhā
    iwandertoo Resident: this perfect moment
    SophiaSharon Larnia: smiles
    Eliza Madrigal: :)


    Alfred Kelberry: meep!
    Alfred Kelberry: woah
    Alfred Kelberry: *wonders whose birthday it is*
    Eliza Madrigal smiles at Boxy
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Boxy, HI Sun :)
    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Sharon :)
    iwandertoo Resident: waves
    stevenaia Michinaga: hello Sunny
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ty
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Sun :)
    oO0Oo Resident: hiya Boxy :).. hiya Sun :) gtsy
    Alfred Kelberry: eliza?
    Alfred Kelberry: your birthday?
    Eliza Madrigal: Sharon!
    Eliza Madrigal: :))
    SophiaSharon Larnia: laughs
    Alfred Kelberry: omg!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: and hides hehe
    Eliza Madrigal: Sharon laughs....
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Alfred Kelberry: neko girl is turning 20 again! :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i nos, right?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: or at least 39
    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: giggles
    Alfred Kelberry: my boxy wishes to you, sweet neko girl :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: thank you
    SophiaSharon Larnia: <3

    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Justine :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Justine

    Eliza Madrigal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVMTz...eature=related

    (but it isn't the 'correct' one for white tara, but still pretty)

    oO0Oo Resident: :)
    Sunshine Vayandar: this is my friend Justine ;)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: thanks Eliza :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Are you all recovered Sun? hard day dancing?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: nice to see you Justine
    Eliza Madrigal: :) Nice to meet you Justine
    Eliza Madrigal: Welcome to Play as Being :))
    Sunshine Vayandar: hehe relaxed a bit after all the jumping around
    Justine Millet: nice meeting you too
    Eliza Madrigal: come join us and I'll give you a note about the group
    SophiaSharon Larnia: lovely Eliza, thanks :)
    Justine Millet: thanks
    Eliza Madrigal: :)) Most welcome
    oO0Oo Resident: hi Justine.. nice to meet you :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: (youtbe video)
    Sunshine Vayandar: TY Eliza for coming ;))
    Eliza Madrigal: The note just gives you a little info and lets you know that we record our sessions and place them on a wiki
    Sunshine Vayandar: listening to White Tara
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: smiles
    Eliza Madrigal: (@ Justine) if you would like not to be included in the recording I can edit, no worries...
    Justine Millet: Ithanks..
    Eliza Madrigal: just let me know :)
    Eliza Madrigal: thanks! :)

    Justine Millet: I do not want to disturb your conversations
    Justine Millet: just carry on please
    Eliza Madrigal: Not at all!
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
    oO0Oo Resident: o.O disturb? not a chance
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hehe
    Eliza Madrigal: We love visitors
    Eliza Madrigal: :))
    Alfred Kelberry: i like disturbed conversations :)
    Eliza Madrigal: hehe
    Sunshine Vayandar: hehe
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ha!
    Justine Millet: but so I can learn in a fast way :)
    oO0Oo Resident: hehe Boxy
    Eliza Madrigal: yes

    Justine Millet: disturbed witha good question yes :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: is presently floating away listening :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Justine Millet: may I let go a first question?
    Eliza Madrigal: Do you have disturbing questions for us Justine? heh
    Eliza Madrigal: Sure!
    Justine Millet: maybe
    Eliza Madrigal leans in
    Sunshine Vayandar: yes Justine ;)
    oO0Oo Resident: "the multiple eyes symbolize the watchfulness of the compassionate mind" (from Eliza's linked Tara video)
    Justine Millet: thias is the question...:)
    Eliza Madrigal smiles

    Justine Millet: can a culture be stable without an Idea, that glue all together
    Eliza Madrigal: hmm
    Sunshine Vayandar: like a religion?
    Justine Millet: thats something thats keeps me ocupied at the moment
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;)) Liz
    Justine Millet: not neccessarly a religion
    Sunshine Vayandar: kk
    Justine Millet: it can be ethical
    Alfred Kelberry: sam, can be quite stressful when 500 pairs of eyes are being watchful on you :)
    Justine Millet: altruistic
    Eliza Madrigal: very curious about the context...
    Eliza Madrigal: of culture
    Justine Millet: philosphical
    Sunshine Vayandar: can u give an example Justine?
    Justine Millet: or also religios

    SophiaSharon Larnia: an idea such as life liberty and the pursuit of happiness (just to use one example)

    Justine Millet: hmm
    SophiaSharon Larnia: whoops sorry
    Sunshine Vayandar: ok
    Eliza Madrigal: that's a good one Sharon
    SophiaSharon Larnia: (hit enter before i read you question to Justin)
    Justine Millet: the first idea came from the gods
    Justine Millet: Plato had this definition of Idea
    Eliza Madrigal: can throw all ideas in the pool :)
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;))

    Justine Millet: I am so sorry and apollogy to you all..I have a chat lag
    Justine Millet: do not see what I type
    SophiaSharon Larnia: np Justine, we all do at times
    Sunshine Vayandar: np at all Justine
    Eliza Madrigal: yes
    Sunshine Vayandar: very interesting question
    Justine Millet: did you get about Platos defintion of ideas?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes

    oO0Oo Resident: @ Justine: what mind evaluates which culture, held together by no concept and when no mind is observed, is that not stability?

    Justine Millet: I am not sure..
    Justine Millet: no mind..

    oO0Oo Resident: me neither... must look into it

    Eliza Madrigal: cultures seem to grow ideas
    Justine Millet: I am born into this time together with millions around me
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;) sam - same here


    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Justine Millet: they are importnat to me
    Justine Millet: It seems that culture uis based on restrictions
    Sunshine Vayandar: yes it is limiting in a million ways ...
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: ideas though, change... and some have room for disturbances...
    Justine Millet: yes they do change, I agree
    oO0Oo Resident: millions of birthdays and disturbances to appreciate
    SophiaSharon Larnia: heh
    Eliza Madrigal: and eyes of compassion
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
    oO0Oo Resident: ;)
    oO0Oo Resident: snap
    Sunshine Vayandar: happy happy bday ;))
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ty :)
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
    Justine Millet: I like disturbances too :)
    Qt Core: have to go, bye all
    Sunshine Vayandar: take care Qt
    oO0Oo Resident: ntsy QT :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye qt, nice to see you
    oO0Oo Resident: ciao
    iwandertoo Resident: waves. best to everyone.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Susan :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye Susan, waves
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Qt
    oO0Oo Resident: thank you for sharing the present moment Susan
    Justine Millet: aaw its late for me too
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Sunshine Vayandar: take care Susan ;)

    Eliza Madrigal: I hope you['ll join us again Juliet
    Eliza Madrigal: we're here at 1,7,1,7 every day
    Justine Millet: thank you ..thats very kind
    oO0Oo Resident: ood to meet you Justin.. thanks for the interesting question :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :) a pleasure to have you visit
    Sunshine Vayandar: ty for coming Justine ;)
    Justine Millet: because My question is still not answered:):)
    Eliza Madrigal grins
    Justine Millet: maybe a good sleep will help :):)
    Sunshine Vayandar: I will explain later a bit more about this project
    Eliza Madrigal: well I should have warned you that we don't really answer questions...
    Sunshine Vayandar: true Justine ;)
    Eliza Madrigal: hah but open them more and more
    Justine Millet: good night
    Eliza Madrigal giggles
    Eliza Madrigal: Night :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Justine hope to see you here again
    Sunshine Vayandar: nitenitee ;)
    Justine Millet: bye
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye all, im off to dinner yay
    SophiaSharon Larnia: have fun :D
    Alfred Kelberry: neko girl :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Have a lovely dinner, Sharon :)
    Sunshine Vayandar: bon appetit ;)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: thanks :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye for now
    Sunshine Vayandar: take care Sharon ;))
    oO0Oo Resident: bye SSL :) gtsy
    stevenaia Michinaga: sorry some friends arrived in RL
    Alfred Kelberry: say hi, stev :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: hi stev
    Alfred Kelberry: :P
    stevenaia Michinaga: oh to them
    Eliza Madrigal: popular, Steve :))
    oO0Oo Resident: lol
    Eliza Madrigal: busy day
    Alfred Kelberry: huh?
    Sunshine Vayandar: sound test sound test
    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    Alfred Kelberry: meep!
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh, Steve had visitors and before was taking folks to brunch
    Sunshine Vayandar: ahh it works now ;)
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;p
    Sunshine Vayandar: didn't hear your nose Alfy
    Eliza Madrigal: :))

    Alfred Kelberry: lets talk about fobias
    Eliza Madrigal: phobias?
    Sunshine Vayandar: ok nose works
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes, brought them back after brunch, to other birthday girls
    Alfred Kelberry: um, ph
    stevenaia Michinaga: *two
    Eliza Madrigal: okay... do you have phobias Alf?
    stevenaia Michinaga: fobias? you ahve some, Eliza?
    Eliza Madrigal: I'm not sure
    Eliza Madrigal: I have at various points in life
    Eliza Madrigal: but now I don't know until something comes up :)
    Eliza Madrigal: others?
    Alfred Kelberry: a friend of mine can't stand onions in any state. could it be a phobia?
    Eliza Madrigal: I actually moved highschools for claustraphobia, and for chasing a terrible boyfriend, hehe
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
    Eliza Madrigal: Hm, phobia of onions...
    Eliza Madrigal: not sure
    stevenaia Michinaga: onions could ba an allergy
    Eliza Madrigal nods

    Sunshine Vayandar: i have opera fobia
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;p

    Eliza Madrigal: and I've locked up in public speeches
    Eliza Madrigal: run out of rooms...
    Eliza Madrigal: hehe, hm...

    Alfred Kelberry: opera?
    Sunshine Vayandar: I can't listen to opera
    Alfred Kelberry: oh
    Eliza Madrigal: the formality?
    stevenaia Michinaga: you do fine at the guardian meetings
    Alfred Kelberry: neat :)
    Sunshine Vayandar: not sure


    Eliza Madrigal: :) Steve, very different ... has to do with 'voice' and feeling exposed
    Eliza Madrigal: so Sunshine does not have to worry about my singing opera to her
    Eliza Madrigal: :))
    Sunshine Vayandar: lol

    Sunshine Vayandar: hmm what a long list here http://www.phobialist.com/
    Eliza Madrigal: but I wondered if the opera aversion is a kind of claustraphobia
    Sunshine Vayandar: hmm

    Eliza Madrigal: ... remember Bruce saying that he feeds his claustraphobia 'space'
    stevenaia Michinaga: quite a list
    Sunshine Vayandar: it's interesting how phobias can appear .... or they can just end .....

    Sunshine Vayandar: I remember when I was a kid I was afraid of that thing people dust with ...
    Eliza Madrigal: curious!
    Sunshine Vayandar: not sure the name lol
    Eliza Madrigal: feather duster?
    Sunshine Vayandar: it's a stick with feathers
    Sunshine Vayandar: loll
    stevenaia Michinaga: Pteronophobia- Fear of being tickled by feathers.
    Sunshine Vayandar: sorry my english went away hehe
    Eliza Madrigal: :)))
    Sunshine Vayandar: wow it has a name like that
    Eliza Madrigal: sounds like a fear of dinosaur of some sort
    stevenaia Michinaga: but no feather duster , perhaps yo should submit it
    Sunshine Vayandar: lol Liz
    Eliza Madrigal: the fear of palindromes is a palindrome (fun fact)
    Sunshine Vayandar: hehe Stevie
    Eliza Madrigal: aibohphobia

    oO0Oo Resident: feels more like Philias, than Phobias
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Sunshine Vayandar: and now I am ok ;) no fear of feather dusters
    Eliza Madrigal: I wonder what (made) boxy ask...
    Eliza Madrigal: then run away
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
    Eliza Madrigal: what is the fear of staying for an answer...heheh
    Sunshine Vayandar: lol
    oO0Oo Resident: unnatural fear of staying wthin a conversation?
    Sunshine Vayandar: answerophobia
    Eliza Madrigal grins
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
    oO0Oo Resident: or love of being 'away'
    Sunshine Vayandar: hmm so much fear on one page ...on the site
    Eliza Madrigal: :)))
    Eliza Madrigal: love of being away... I may have that
    oO0Oo Resident thinks Eliza has love for 'a way'
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;))
    Alfred Kelberry: hi :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Boxy :)
    Sunshine Vayandar: hi Alf ;)
    Sunshine Vayandar: hi Woly ;)
    Eliza Madrigal: Hello Wol :)
    Eliza Madrigal: (apologies, brb)
    Alfred Kelberry: woly girl!
    stevenaia Michinaga: waves to Wol
    Wol Euler: hello everyone
    Alfred Kelberry: eliza, sorry, i get distracted...
    Sunshine Vayandar: Eliza is away
    Sunshine Vayandar: hmm or Eliza is a way
    Alfred Kelberry: aha! :)
    Wol Euler: :)
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;) Elizaism

    oO0Oo Resident: we cultivated while you were away Boxy.. wb :)
    Alfred Kelberry: ok, eliza asks a question and then goes away...
    Sunshine Vayandar: Lizism
    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    Alfred Kelberry: sneakers!
    Wol Euler: :)
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;o)
    Wol Euler: sorry to disappoint
    oO0Oo Resident: hi Wol :)
    Alfred Kelberry: no, they're cute
    Sunshine Vayandar: byebyee all - have a great week
    Wol Euler: bye sun! take care
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
    stevenaia Michinaga: bye Sun
    Eliza Madrigal: ah, bye sun!!!
    Alfred Kelberry: um... a part of your shirt is transparent
    Eliza Madrigal: jsut in time
    Sunshine Vayandar: byebyee Liz ;) take care all
    oO0Oo Resident: bye Sun.. gtsy :)

    Wol Euler: I'm struggling a bit tonight, I left my reading glasses in the office :(
    Eliza Madrigal: oh :(
    Wol Euler: sitting with my nose almost on the monitor, so I can't really see what's happening
    oO0Oo Resident: you'll have to default to the third eye gain Wol ;)
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: I wonder if there is a way to magnify chat text
    Wol Euler: :)
    Alfred Kelberry: ah, it can be quite uncomfortable, woly
    Wol Euler: actually yes, the UI can be scaled! thanks for reminding me
    Wol Euler: yes! heheheh
    Wol Euler: works
    Eliza Madrigal: :))
    Alfred Kelberry: you're shortsighted?
    Wol Euler: yeah, very
    Alfred Kelberry: how much?
    Wol Euler: dunno


    Wol Euler: enough that it's bloody inconvenient
    oO0Oo Resident: in viewer 2 also preferences>chat>Large
    stevenaia Michinaga: we call it nearsighted here, shotrsighted is something else
    Wol Euler: heh
    stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    Wol Euler: that's better, the UI is normal sized but the text is larger. Thank you, sam!
    stevenaia Michinaga: I must be off, see you all alter
    Wol Euler: bye steve, take care
    oO0Oo Resident thinks Wow! Gave Wol a SL tip. 345 to go to pay her bck..;)
    oO0Oo Resident: bye Stevenaia :)
    Wol Euler: >(
    Alfred Kelberry: no lasik, woly?
    Wol Euler: no way
    Eliza Madrigal: suddenly some chaos here, hm... disturbances in the force...
    Alfred Kelberry: um, laser treatment
    Wol Euler: yeah, keyboard switched itself over to US :-/ god how I hate windows.
    Alfred Kelberry: eliza? :)

    oO0Oo Resident asks disturbances... "have you been to Play as Being before?
    Wol Euler: :)
    Eliza Madrigal giggles

    Alfred Kelberry: woly, it doesn't switch on its own :)
    Wol Euler shrugs
    Eliza Madrigal: we;re an inclusive group
    Wol Euler: okay, so there is some secret combinatoin of keystrokes that switches it.
    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: incantation?

    oO0Oo Resident: the nearsighted, the farsighted, the farsided, the shortsided, the insighted...
    Alfred Kelberry: so, they're not reading glasses, woly
    Wol Euler: yes, quite right. shortsighted is different :)
    Eliza Madrigal: blindsighted, oversighted...
    Wol Euler: second sighted
    oO0Oo Resident: hehe
    oO0Oo Resident: an destinct oversight on my part
    Eliza Madrigal: :))
    Wol Euler: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: ah, nearsighted
    Eliza Madrigal: that's why it sounded funny... shortsighted is more like what I think of near ancestors
    Alfred Kelberry: ok, myopic :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    oO0Oo Resident: a bazaar more than a cathedral Boxy?

    Wol Euler: how is assisi going? has anyone heard?
    Eliza Madrigal: I don't think we will hear
    Eliza Madrigal: as there is no internet
    Wol Euler: O.O
    Eliza Madrigal: yes!
    Wol Euler: there are places wihtout internet?
    Wol Euler: amazing.
    Eliza Madrigal: evidently
    Eliza Madrigal: but you have to go to Italy to find them
    Wol Euler: :)
    oO0Oo Resident grins at Wol
    Eliza Madrigal: :) I think it sounds grand
    Eliza Madrigal: though it is also fun to hear from retreaters during the time
    oO0Oo Resident: Biscotti, and good coffee Wol
    Wol Euler: listen, in Germany there is internet in trains, and your cellphone continues to work while the train plows through a 3 mile long tunnel
    Eliza Madrigal: @@
    Wol Euler: how can there be no internet?!°?!?!?!?
    oO0Oo Resident: hhe
    Eliza Madrigal: I'm not sure we'll be well wired in the different windhorse location
    Wol Euler: biscotti indeed, have one in my hand. but tea not coffee now
    oO0Oo Resident: me ears perk up
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Wol Euler: oh? where will we be?
    Eliza Madrigal: it is a different house... hm... let's see
    Alfred Kelberry: there is the net in the alps even :)
    Eliza Madrigal: hm it isn't on the site...
    Eliza Madrigal: maybe the yellow house near the lake
    Wol Euler: interesting ...
    Wol Euler: I suppose we could do without internet for a week ...
    Wol Euler: I wonder whether Anka and Roberto will be cooking ...
    Eliza Madrigal: can prob hook up occasionally and not sure... hmmm
    Wol Euler: *for us, I mean
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Eliza Madrigal: Eos said he saw them, wedding soon
    Eliza Madrigal: hah
    Wol Euler: nice :)
    oO0Oo Resident: :)
    Eliza Madrigal wonders if we're making things tempting enough to lure Samuo
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Eliza Madrigal: or Boxy
    oO0Oo Resident: i am here Eliza
    Alfred Kelberry: lure where?
    Eliza Madrigal: Windhorse :)
    Wol Euler: to the halifax retreat in july
    Alfred Kelberry: woly seems to be doing that
    Wol Euler: luring you?
    Eliza Madrigal: :))
    Alfred Kelberry: um...


    Wol Euler: or attending the retreat?
    Alfred Kelberry: *saved by the bell*
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: So Alf, why DID you raise the phobia question? :)
    Eliza Madrigal: curious...
    Alfred Kelberry: i heard an interesting discussion on a radio the other day
    Eliza Madrigal listens
    Alfred Kelberry: done :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :))
    Wol Euler frowns
    Wol Euler: and I had a bowl of cereal for breakfast. C'mon boxy, give us a little useful detail.
    Eliza Madrigal: :))
    Alfred Kelberry: um, i answered the question :)
    Wol Euler sighs.
    oO0Oo Resident: your friend with the aversion to onions Boxy?
    Alfred Kelberry: ah, yes
    Alfred Kelberry: just thought of him
    Eliza Madrigal: I'd guess that usually one thing comes to represent another
    Wol Euler: substitution?
    Eliza Madrigal: or a smell...
    Eliza Madrigal: smell of a memory?
    Eliza Madrigal: onions have particular meanings to graham greene, but that's probably not it
    Wol Euler: ?
    Eliza Madrigal: euphemism
    Wol Euler: ah
    oO0Oo Resident: i don't know what you said... but i lked it
    Eliza Madrigal grins
    oO0Oo Resident sometimes eats capsicums like an apple
    Wol Euler: wow
    Eliza Madrigal: hmmmm
    Wol Euler: careful with the matches aftterwards.
    oO0Oo Resident: aka bell peppers
    Eliza Madrigal: I almost don't want to google that... imagination is too much fun
    Eliza Madrigal: ah :D
    Eliza Madrigal: Samuo as Iron Chef
    Wol Euler: heheheh
    Wol Euler: Iron Diner at least
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    oO0Oo Resident: iron filing for the magnet of windhorse retreat
    Wol Euler grins.
    Eliza Madrigal: :))
    Alfred Kelberry: ha!

    Alfred Kelberry: this is funny
    Alfred Kelberry: someone told me: you are so funny! you are behaving like you're stoned on drugs
    Alfred Kelberry: i said why?
    Alfred Kelberry: "living in the moment" :)
    Alfred Kelberry: it must be so out of norm to do so
    oO0Oo Resident: :-D
    Eliza Madrigal: yes I think so!
    Eliza Madrigal: maybe it is hard to see how big a moment can be
    Alfred Kelberry: *pinches woly*
    Wol Euler: ow
    Alfred Kelberry: heh
    Alfred Kelberry: woly's funny too :)
    Eliza Madrigal: is that how you wake up, Boxy?
    Eliza Madrigal: pinching Wol?

    oO0Oo Resident: one person's disturbance, another person's... way of being
    Eliza Madrigal: indeed!
    Alfred Kelberry: no, she just looked pinchable to me for a second :)
    Wol Euler: :)
    oO0Oo Resident: wolphilia
    Alfred Kelberry: oh, another topic
    Eliza Madrigal grins!
    Wol Euler: awwwwww
    Wol Euler blushes and grins


    Eliza Madrigal: topic, Boxy?
    Alfred Kelberry: our philias :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :))
    Wol Euler: brb, strange noises offstage
    Alfred Kelberry: uh oh
    oO0Oo Resident: watch your step Wol
    oO0Oo Resident: go slow
    Eliza Madrigal: more disturbances
    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: we should be quiet
    Eliza Madrigal: :D
    Alfred Kelberry: ommm...
    Eliza Madrigal tries not to disturb the disturbances.... before she sneaks up on them

    oO0Oo Resident offers the disturbances a notecard
    Eliza Madrigal: !!
    oO0Oo Resident: and asks if they mind being on the record
    Alfred Kelberry: well?
    Eliza Madrigal: usually disturbances love being on the record

    Wol Euler: cellphone just died, though I *know* that I plugged it in to recharge last night
    Alfred Kelberry: spooky
    Eliza Madrigal: Well my dear and lovely friends, excellent company and all around bundles of happiness...
    Alfred Kelberry: eliza girl :)
    Eliza Madrigal: think I must peel myself away
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Alfred Kelberry: peel well
    Wol Euler: goodnight, eliza, enjoy the rest of your sunday
    Wol Euler: ooer
    oO0Oo Resident bundles Eliza into a shower of flower blossoms
    Alfred Kelberry: always a pleasure to see you :)
    oO0Oo Resident: ntsy
    Eliza Madrigal: :::inhales deeply and with appreciatin:::::
    Eliza Madrigal: Appreciation!
    Wol Euler: nice outfit :)
    oO0Oo Resident: yes
    Eliza Madrigal: :))Ty
    Eliza Madrigal: Namaste'
    Alfred Kelberry: leggy eliza :)
    Alfred Kelberry: so...
    oO0Oo Resident: namaste

    Alfred Kelberry: do you think that conservation of energy can be all wrong as all of it had to come from somewhere in the first place
    Wol Euler: no
    Wol Euler grins.
    Alfred Kelberry: um
    Alfred Kelberry: it's uncomfortable that you can't ask such questions
    Wol Euler: but you just did ask it
    oO0Oo Resident: of course you can... why not?
    Alfred Kelberry: you can only operate within established theories
    Alfred Kelberry: well, i can here
    Wol Euler: oh, so we don't count. charming :(
    Alfred Kelberry: :P
    Alfred Kelberry: *watches pouty woly* :)
    Wol Euler can't keep a straight (pouty) face, and cracks up
    Alfred Kelberry: :)

    oO0Oo Resident: OK.. asking all present in the circle... first thought... How can one best develop equanimity
    oO0Oo Resident: ?
    Wol Euler: detachment from an unrealistically high valuation of self
    Wol Euler: in my experience and belief what most conflicts with equanimity is the feeling that one is getting the short end of the stick
    Wol Euler: whatever "stick" might mean in the momentary context


    oO0Oo Resident: ty
    Wol Euler: don't take that as gospel though, sam, I am just speaking off the top of my head. Perhaps I am entirely wrong :)
    oO0Oo Resident: taken so with thanks Wol :)
    Alfred Kelberry: woly's dogmata
    oO0Oo Resident: and thanks too
    Wol Euler: :)
    oO0Oo Resident: now you might of said to try DropBox Boxy ;)
    Alfred Kelberry: i have an account
    oO0Oo Resident grins
    Wol Euler: me too, it's a great little invention
    Alfred Kelberry: "Dropbox - Simplify your life"
    oO0Oo Resident: SpiderOak is also nifty

    Alfred Kelberry: it's interesting to think how a simple rock under our feet may have a fascinating story
    Wol Euler nods.
    oO0Oo Resident: mmm... thinks of tree rings... stories of things which stay more or less in place... yet were not always there
    Alfred Kelberry: it has seen so much that we who pass it by are mere specks of dust :)
    Wol Euler: "they also server who only stand and wait" :)
    Alfred Kelberry: rocks dropped everything a long time ago :)
    Wol Euler: :)
    Alfred Kelberry: real beings
    Alfred Kelberry: we should invite some :)
    oO0Oo Resident: solid... equanimous :)
    oO0Oo Resident: rock steady
    oO0Oo Resident: yet transient
    Wol Euler smiles.

    Wol Euler: my dears, I have to go. too tired, and even with the large print this is straining my eyes (and neck)
    Wol Euler: goodnight, take care
    Wol Euler: and consider Halifax ,,., :)
    Alfred Kelberry: wee!
    Alfred Kelberry: the land of friendly people
    oO0Oo Resident: goodnight Wol...


    Alfred Kelberry: bye folks :)
    oO0Oo Resident: bye boxy :)
    oO0Oo Resident: gtsy
    oO0Oo Resident: remembering all as friends

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