2011.04.27 13:00 - Memory and desire stirring

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Fefonz Quan. The comments are by Fefonz Quan.


    Archmage Atlantis: Hmmmm....voices, but no one here
    Archmage Atlantis: Oh, there yawl er
    Aphrodite Macbain: Looking at the notice boards
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hiya Samuo
    oO0Oo Resident: hi Arch :) Hi Bruce.. good to see you both
    Bruce Mowbray: Oooopsss-- I need to go -- storm really moving in now -- and my brother just pulled into the driveway. . .
    oO0Oo Resident: hi Aph :)
    Archmage Atlantis: Hi Aph, hi Bruce, Hi Samuo
    Aphrodite Macbain: Take care Bruce batton the hatches
    Bruce Mowbray: It is also good to see you, but alas, the meteorologists have other ideas....
    oO0Oo Resident: kk Bruce.. have fun
    Bruce Mowbray: http://www.wunderground.com/radar/ra...=400&map.y=240¢erx=379¢ery=233&prevzoom=zoom&num=4&delay=50&scale=0.815&showlabels=1&smooth=0&noclutter=0&showstorms=0&rainsnow=0&lightning=0&remembersettings=on&setprefs.0.key=RADNUM&setprefs.0.val=4&setprefs.1.key=RADSPD&setprefs.1.val=50&setprefs.2.key=RADC&setprefs.2.val=0&setprefs.3.key=RADSTM&setprefs.3.val=0&setprefs.4.key=SLABS&setprefs.4.val=1&setprefs.5.key=RADRMS&setprefs.5.val=0&setprefs.6.key=RADLIT&setprefs.6.val=0&setprefs.7.key=RADSMO&setprefs.7.val=0
    Bruce Mowbray: Be well, everyone.
    Aphrodite Macbain: wqow. moving quickly
    Aphrodite Macbain: just as well its only yellow and green and not red
    Archmage Atlantis: Yes, I like hurricanes much better, much more predictable.
    Aphrodite Macbain: Are they?
    Archmage Atlantis: Yes
    Aphrodite Macbain: Is it b/c they are bigger?
    Archmage Atlantis: And less flooding, tornados and earthquakes, if any here in FL
    Archmage Atlantis: It is because they are more predictable, at least at this point in time
    Archmage Atlantis: And the building codes were toughened after Andrew
    Aphrodite Macbain: Good to look at the positive side
    oO0Oo Resident: hello Qt.. :)
    Archmage Atlantis: Well, we're used to them, and more prepared than than most other states
    Archmage Atlantis: Hello Qt
    Qt Core: hi all
    Aphrodite Macbain: Salve QT
    Archmage Atlantis: I really like the new calendar in the wiki druth initiated........I especially like knowing about the other activities
    Aphrodite Macbain: How are things in your part of the world Qt
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes- it's very handy. We're hoping to get it posted here too
    oO0Oo Resident nods a Arch.. yes a nicely implemented calendar
    Qt Core: quite good, arch, ty and on your side ?
    Archmage Atlantis: Yes, Qt, Bruce just had to go batten down the hatches for severe weather
    Aphrodite Macbain wonders who the GOC is for today
    Qt Core: ops, aphro
    Aphrodite Macbain: ti?
    Archmage Atlantis: Fefonz is on the schedule
    Aphrodite Macbain: OK well I'll claim this and send the log to Fefonz
    Archmage Atlantis: Ok, Aph :)
    oO0Oo Resident: ty Aph
    oO0Oo Resident: :)
    Qt Core: (i just responded to arch but the question was yours, aphro)
    Aphrodite Macbain: what goes around...
    oO0Oo Resident: who is 'be', in 'being' ;)
    oO0Oo Resident: me be we
    Aphrodite Macbain: we be
    oO0Oo Resident: :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: very becoming
    oO0Oo Resident: lol
    Aphrodite Macbain: like the flowers in your hair
    Aphrodite Macbain: I'd like to be a flower and wait for the be(e)s
    Archmage Atlantis: Mostly, I'm just befuddled, but once I give up asking why, I can usually live with being befuddled *g*
    oO0Oo Resident: when all labels drop... we all become a field of flowers, but even without the words 'field' or 'flowers'
    Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
    Fefonz Quan: hello all!
    Aphrodite Macbain: are we the flowers or the field?
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Fefonz
    Archmage Atlantis: Intersting you should mention that Aph, I saw my first bumblebee in the garden today.....Hello Fef :)
    oO0Oo Resident: resting with the question.. as perhaps Arch suggested.. hi Fefonz :)
    Qt Core: hi Fef
    Fefonz Quan: could you ellaborate about the flowers and the field Aph?
    Aphrodite Macbain: sure
    Aphrodite Macbain: I was aligning it with the metaphor of the water and the wave
    oO0Oo Resident: :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: The wave is part of the water, like the flower is part of the much larger all encompassing field
    Fefonz Quan: so we can be both, flowers and field alike
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes!
    Aphrodite Macbain: as one is part of the other
    Aphrodite Macbain: including the bess
    Aphrodite Macbain: bees
    Fefonz Quan: as both points of view have some reality , essence to them
    oO0Oo Resident inks at Arch... first bumblebee
    oO0Oo Resident: *winks
    Archmage Atlantis: :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: robins and bumblebees, first signs of approaching summer
    Fefonz Quan: herer we call it spring :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
    Aphrodite Macbain: How's the babe Fefonz?
    Fefonz Quan: enjoying the first spring ever :)
    oO0Oo Resident: it i wondrous how for half the world Spring, and for half Autumn
    oO0Oo Resident: first?
    Archmage Atlantis: New baby :)
    oO0Oo Resident: *is
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes a tuning up and a softening down
    oO0Oo Resident smiles at 'new baby'
    Aphrodite Macbain: spring must be brighter when you look at it thru the eyes of a baby
    Aphrodite Macbain: a biginner...
    Fefonz Quan loves the spring too
    Aphrodite Macbain: beginner
    oO0Oo Resident: BE the baby... BE he robin .. BE the bee lol the we, the me, the thee
    oO0Oo Resident: *the
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hee hee
    Fefonz Quan: :)
    Archmage Atlantis: I have to admit that seeing the "boy bands" on "Dancing with the Stars" who are now late 20s and 30s has given me another reminder of the passage of time :)
    oO0Oo Resident: babies smell so nice
    Archmage Atlantis: So many summers
    oO0Oo Resident: lol Arch
    oO0Oo Resident: a sober reminder
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes, like TV stars getting older and dying
    Aphrodite Macbain: and becoming one with the universe
    Archmage Atlantis: 10 years ago, I would have seen it as sober, Samuo, now I see it as joyous......the flow of being, as it were
    Fefonz Quan: So you become younger arch :)
    oO0Oo Resident: drunk on the present... the past and future are all contained.. yes Arch!
    Aphrodite Macbain: we're just in different states of becoming
    Archmage Atlantis: It is nice to see the stories passage
    Archmage Atlantis: Yes, to all of that
    Aphrodite Macbain: can someone remind me why April is the cruelest month
    Fefonz Quan: I visited my parents house last Saturday, after some years, and it was like taking a time tunnel to the eighties
    Fefonz Quan: (don't know Aph, is it?)
    Aphrodite Macbain: give an example of what you experinced Fefonz
    Archmage Atlantis: It has the promise of spring, yet can be winter again at a moment's notice, I thunk
    Aphrodite Macbain: experienced
    Fefonz Quan: it is so similar to how it waas when i grew up there as a boy, same furniture, same rooms, I even got one of my Vinil records frand played it on a phone
    Aphrodite Macbain: APRIL is the cruellest month, breeding Lilacs out of the dead land, mixing Memory and desire, stirring Dull roots with spring rain. TS Eliot. The Wasteland
    Aphrodite Macbain: memory and desire stirring...
    Fefonz Quan: (phonograph, not phone)
    Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
    Archmage Atlantis: You mean the RCA Victrola *g*
    Aphrodite Macbain: That sounds more like the 50s rathr than the 80s
    Fefonz Quan: For me April i the most joyous and vivid month, along with following May
    Archmage Atlantis: I had friends who restored play pianos and had a collection of piano rolls they played :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: Theirs must have been a fun place to walk into!
    Fefonz Quan: no, 80's since tha's when they stopped making records on vinil
    Aphrodite Macbain: Winter kept us warm, covering 5 Earth in forgetful snow, feeding A little life with dried tubers.
    Archmage Atlantis: If you mean my friends with the pianos, yes Aph, they were creative guys
    Aphrodite Macbain: Had no idea. In the 80s I was using the fax, the Internet and the Xerox machine
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes arch
    Fefonz Quan: nope, no internet, sorry
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes. I used it
    Fefonz Quan: (unless you are one of the founders)
    Aphrodite Macbain: I was in my 40s in the 80s
    Aphrodite Macbain: very basic
    Aphrodite Macbain: Interesting
    Fefonz Quan: (soory for the caps)
    Aphrodite Macbain: I was receiving email in 1984
    Fefonz Quan: yes, but email and internet are not the same
    Aphrodite Macbain: true
    Fefonz Quan: on the other hand, we only got color TV's here at 1980, so go figure ;-)
    Aphrodite Macbain tries to remember when she first used Altavista
    oO0Oo Resident: netscape navigator?
    Fefonz Quan: I still remember the first chapter of "love boat" I saw in color...
    Archmage Atlantis: Commercial Internet was introduced in the late 80s, TCP/IP was agreed upon in the early 80's
    Fefonz Quan: yes, i thought towards the Netscape too
    Aphrodite Macbain: anyway, I wonder whether we stopped "being in the present" so intensely when the
    Archmage Atlantis: And we got our first color tv for my birthday in the mid to late 60s
    Aphrodite Macbain: Internet came in to our lives
    Archmage Atlantis: Some time after the invention of the railroad *g*
    Aphrodite Macbain: The interenet takes us beyond the present place and moment
    Aphrodite Macbain: keeps logs, looks back and reflects
    Archmage Atlantis: And moveable type :)
    oO0Oo Resident: as with Television, movies, phones, radio,
    Aphrodite Macbain: true
    Fefonz Quan: true and not true
    oO0Oo Resident: depends on our state of mind?
    Aphrodite Macbain: I wonder whether our attention span shortened too
    Fefonz Quan: by orders of magnitude Aph, I would say
    Aphrodite Macbain: ??
    Aphrodite Macbain: could you elaborate Fef
    Fefonz Quan: (our attention span showtened)
    Qt Core: agree with Fef
    Fefonz Quan: today it's common for people to sit in front of 20 open windows, and whether something stops for 3 seconds in the window you are at, you just switch to another to see what's going on there
    Fefonz Quan: If you'lll watch movies rfom the 70's (not to say earlier), it will look like slow motion to you
    oO0Oo Resident: like outsourcing our brain's memory functions
    Qt Core: luckily i try to keep separate paper and monitor but often i find myself skipping aweay from web pages that can't grab my interest in the forst 30 seconds
    Qt Core: and i skip away from correct spelling too
    oO0Oo Resident: allowing information to be mapped online, instead of in our memories, it is compelling to then move through topics, or threads' with hyperlinks, similar to how the brain networks information paths. It is so open ended though, that a result can be 'short attention span'
    Archmage Atlantis: Spelling evolves......as does language
    Zon Kwan: hey alla
    oO0Oo Resident: hi Zon :)
    Fefonz Quan: hi Zon
    Archmage Atlantis: Hi, Zon
    Qt Core: hi Zon
    Aphrodite Macbain: hey zon
    Fefonz Quan: In a way we are bombarded by sensual stimulations, from the internet to the cellular phones culture
    Archmage Atlantis: Agree, Fef.....that is what makes PaB so special.
    Fefonz Quan: so our sensitivity to inputs increases and need more and more intensity to be provoked
    Fefonz Quan: it's like drug addiction in a way.
    Fefonz Quan: and yes, Arch, it does.
    oO0Oo Resident: agreed Fefonz.. interested in that as a possible call to human 'group intelligence'
    Aphrodite Macbain: I am feeling less and less that I want to be stimulated and more and mdore that I want peace
    Aphrodite Macbain: perhaps it's my great age
    Aphrodite Macbain: !
    oO0Oo Resident nods
    Aphrodite Macbain: There's a point when it becomes a surfet of stimulation
    Aphrodite Macbain: surfeit
    Fefonz Quan: yes, me too aph. Last Monday I happened to get an hour alone along the beach, and jsut set on a cup on tea and watched the sinset, and it was the most refreshing experience
    Aphrodite Macbain: and I want to crawl into a cave
    Fefonz Quan: sunset*
    Aphrodite Macbain: that sounds lovely Fefonz
    Aphrodite Macbain: maybe crawl into a sunset instead!
    Fefonz Quan: it was beautiful, i came out of a film, and the sunset image was like a movie scene
    Aphrodite Macbain smiles
    Fefonz Quan: more colourful than the movie i saw :)
    oO0Oo Resident: to fnd peace... in ways personal.. and potentially bring elements of it into the challenge of a 'stimulating' world... this feels a challenge for our times
    Fefonz Quan: I agree oOOOo. yet i find that for practicing this ability, i need a "Gym" that is at least a little peacefull
    oO0Oo Resident: lol.. agreed.. a 'container' is helpful.. thinking of the flavour of 'peace' in my mind, regarding Arch's seeing the bumblebee
    oO0Oo Resident: and your snset
    oO0Oo Resident: *sunset
    oO0Oo Resident: Ap's flowers
    Fefonz Quan: and then i am more able to merge this inner peace at the external turmoil, letting both of them be
    oO0Oo Resident: *Aph's
    Archmage Atlantis: :)
    oO0Oo Resident: a nice lead in to the break coming up?
    Aphrodite Macbain thinks thesounds of bumblebees is very pe/me thinks the drone of bumblebees is very peaceful. especially if you're a flower
    Aphrodite Macbain: I think I'll bumble my way home now.
    Fefonz Quan: yep, i'll go with oO
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bye
    Aphrodite Macbain: Lovely to talk with you. Bye!
    Archmage Atlantis: Yes, time to go for now...Blessings and Namaste, yawl:))
    Qt Core: bye
    oO0Oo Resident: tc Arch, Aph...:)
    Fefonz Quan: It was a pleasure, thanks all for this lovely spring session, and may we have peaceful days ahead.
    Fefonz Quan: good night.
    Fefonz Quan: (/me going to sleep :))
    oO0Oo Resident nods.. may it be.. yes.. night Fefonz :)
    Qt Core: sleep well
    oO0Oo Resident: also, i will go.. ty Qt, ty Zon, gtsy :)
    Qt Core: bye oOOOo
    Zon Kwan: ah..bye
    Zon Kwan: me too go must
    oO0Oo Resident: bye :)
    Zon Kwan: bye qt
    Qt Core: bye Zon

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