2011.05.06 01:00 - The active form of well-ness

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    Wol Euler was guardian for this session.


    Barcalona Rhapsody: i see
    Wol Euler: good morning, barca
    Barcalona Rhapsody: you was invisable
    Barcalona Rhapsody: thnx
    Wol Euler: sorry :)
    Wol Euler: how are you?
    Barcalona Rhapsody: i am ok
    Barcalona Rhapsody: i have a holiday today
    Wol Euler: ah! nice
    Wol Euler: what's the occasion?
    Barcalona Rhapsody: and u ?
    Barcalona Rhapsody: yesterday was freedomsday in netherlands
    Wol Euler: ah.
    Barcalona Rhapsody: and this day is the offices closed
    Barcalona Rhapsody: so its a free day that is not free
    Barcalona Rhapsody: we are obliged to take this day off
    Wol Euler: heh
    Barcalona Rhapsody: it saves energy for the office
    Wol Euler: still, you might say that you get a four-day weekend!
    Barcalona Rhapsody: sure
    Barcalona Rhapsody: i like it
    Barcalona Rhapsody: now i can talk here
    Barcalona Rhapsody: in my pyamas
    Wol Euler grins.
    Barcalona Rhapsody: it is 10.08 am here
    Barcalona Rhapsody: i am on the coffee
    Wol Euler smiles and nods
    Barcalona Rhapsody: and u ?
    Wol Euler: I got dressed about ten minutes ago, after breakfast
    Wol Euler: 10:09 am, coffee here too
    Barcalona Rhapsody: i just brushed my teeths
    Barcalona Rhapsody: i spoke to sorm Nordwind this morning early
    Barcalona Rhapsody: at about 7.00 o clock
    Barcalona Rhapsody: storm
    Barcalona Rhapsody: i had a dream
    Wol Euler listens.
    Barcalona Rhapsody: i wanted to tell him
    Barcalona Rhapsody: just before he went to sleep
    Barcalona Rhapsody: i have a new idea for PaB
    Wol Euler: oh?
    Barcalona Rhapsody: why not calling it PaWB ?
    Barcalona Rhapsody: WB for Well-Being
    Barcalona Rhapsody: and i like to see a museum for divine Design
    Barcalona Rhapsody: or in the museum for sacred art
    Barcalona Rhapsody: see: www.aldobakker.com
    Wol Euler: interesting ideas
    Barcalona Rhapsody: he is design teacher for well-being
    Barcalona Rhapsody: and he takes japanese craftmanship into his designs
    Barcalona Rhapsody: and now u can take it into the log of this discussion
    Barcalona Rhapsody: and Storm said we first have to work it out in a workshope here
    Barcalona Rhapsody: workshop
    Wol Euler: Meep Meep ;P :p:P :p :P
    Wol Euler: oops, sorry
    Wol Euler: that should have been a nod :)
    Wol Euler: mistyped my gesture
    Barcalona Rhapsody: but it all has to do with time experience
    Barcalona Rhapsody: thats what pema is looking for i thought
    Barcalona Rhapsody: i saw u was one of the first ppl in PaB ?
    Barcalona Rhapsody: on that screen
    Wol Euler: well, that's a matter of perspective :)
    Barcalona Rhapsody: ok
    Wol Euler: PaB was already pretty well established when I joined, there were maybe 25 or 30 guardians already
    Barcalona Rhapsody: maybe i have to change perspective
    Wol Euler: but I have been here longer than most
    Barcalona Rhapsody: ok
    Barcalona Rhapsody: i am not even a guardian
    Wol Euler: some of those original 2 dozen have dropped out since then, as always happens with groups, but most remain
    Wol Euler: what does "well being" mean to you?
    Barcalona Rhapsody: well thats all to me
    Barcalona Rhapsody: its the active form of well-ness
    Barcalona Rhapsody: well-ness
    Barcalona Rhapsody: and its what makes me and u happy
    Barcalona Rhapsody: not lucky
    Barcalona Rhapsody: but happy
    Barcalona Rhapsody: we can work on our own happiness
    Barcalona Rhapsody: by talking a bit here
    Barcalona Rhapsody: and feel that we are listend to
    Wol Euler nods.
    Barcalona Rhapsody: listened i mean
    Barcalona Rhapsody: not listed
    Barcalona Rhapsody: or even listed
    Barcalona Rhapsody: doesnot matter anymore
    Barcalona Rhapsody: logged
    Barcalona Rhapsody: when happy is not bad
    Barcalona Rhapsody: share happines doubles happiness
    Wol Euler nods.
    Barcalona Rhapsody: share worse makes it smaller
    Wol Euler: right
    Barcalona Rhapsody: so its also well-being here
    Wol Euler: so you are saying that we should recognize what we have, change the name to reflect that fact?
    Barcalona Rhapsody: sure
    Barcalona Rhapsody: maybe thats possible
    Barcalona Rhapsody: ?
    Wol Euler: I don't know.
    Barcalona Rhapsody: but not necesairy
    Wol Euler: well-being in English has a particular flavour which "being"does not
    Barcalona Rhapsody: its nore that i think that sacred art is more than buildings
    Wol Euler: it's associated with the health-food movement, and with regular exercise in fresh air :)
    Barcalona Rhapsody: so ?
    Barcalona Rhapsody: thats not bad i think ?
    Barcalona Rhapsody: its also a form of retreat
    Barcalona Rhapsody: like we have here
    Wol Euler: so that is perhaps a little too specific for the general philosophical "Being" that Pema had in mind
    Barcalona Rhapsody: and holiday
    Barcalona Rhapsody: maybe
    Barcalona Rhapsody: sure
    Barcalona Rhapsody: Being is broader
    Wol Euler: I don't know. I agree with Storm that we should have a workshop to discuss what that means
    Wol Euler: that's the best way to discuss it, I think
    Barcalona Rhapsody: i think so too
    Barcalona Rhapsody: or a special in the sacred art museum
    Wol Euler: or that :)
    Barcalona Rhapsody: there was a special of barcelona too
    Barcalona Rhapsody: so why not about dutch design ?
    Barcalona Rhapsody: who is the curator of that museum ?
    Wol Euler: Adams Rubble
    Barcalona Rhapsody: now there is a special about california
    Barcalona Rhapsody: i saw
    Barcalona Rhapsody: maybe i have to ask adams
    Wol Euler: but I'm confused now. What does Aldo Bakker have to do with renaming PaB?
    Barcalona Rhapsody: ok
    Barcalona Rhapsody: he is a design teacher for well-being
    Barcalona Rhapsody: and he makes timeless objects
    Barcalona Rhapsody: with japanes craftmanship
    Barcalona Rhapsody: so that could be fitting here
    Barcalona Rhapsody: first in the sacred art museum
    Barcalona Rhapsody: not only architecture but also design
    Barcalona Rhapsody: maybe
    Wol Euler: sure, I have no problem with displaying his work at the museum, that seems fine.
    Wol Euler: but what does that have to do with PaB?
    Wol Euler: the sacred art museum is not PaB
    Barcalona Rhapsody: oh ?
    Wol Euler: no
    Barcalona Rhapsody: ok
    Barcalona Rhapsody: i didnt know that
    Wol Euler: ah :)
    Wol Euler: no, it's just a museum.
    Barcalona Rhapsody: i thought it was a part of paB
    Barcalona Rhapsody: like all the buildings here
    Wol Euler: it grew out of PaB, sure, from discussions here, and created by Storm and Adams
    Wol Euler: but it has its own life independent of us
    Barcalona Rhapsody: thats nice
    Barcalona Rhapsody: all the objects of Aldo Bakker have their own independence too
    Barcalona Rhapsody: but are also part of a family
    Wol Euler nods.
    Dash Earthboy: hey Sophia
    Wol Euler: hello dash
    Barcalona Rhapsody: hi dash and sophia
    Dash Earthboy: hey y'all
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Barcalona Rhapsody: yeah
    Barcalona Rhapsody: looking for some well-being
    Wol Euler: aren't we all, always? :)
    Dash Earthboy: i see there's a few butterflies around here
    Barcalona Rhapsody: oh
    Wol Euler: yeah
    Dash Earthboy: cool
    Barcalona Rhapsody: i didnt see them yet
    Wol Euler: you must have particles turned off in graphics preferences
    Dash Earthboy: i'm just happy to be here
    Dash Earthboy: not playing nobody
    Barcalona Rhapsody: ok
    Barcalona Rhapsody: me too
    Barcalona Rhapsody: just myself
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Dash Earthboy: i'm showing on my screen as a cloud
    Dash Earthboy: do I appear ok to y'all?
    Wol Euler: rebake, perhaps? ctrl-alt-r
    Barcalona Rhapsody: u lok great
    Wol Euler: you look ruthed to me, as in that photo
    Barcalona Rhapsody: look
    Barcalona Rhapsody: great
    Dash Earthboy: i re-configured my laptop just before going 70 miles away to a job interview yesterday
    Wol Euler: oh, good luck.
    Dash Earthboy: my son fronted me the gas money and let me stay with him Wed night
    Wol Euler: I hope that works out!
    Dash Earthboy: so I tweaked the wireless there at his place w/3M download speeds!
    Wol Euler: :)
    Barcalona Rhapsody: ok
    Dash Earthboy: i'm back at my 650 kps home
    Wol Euler smiles and nods
    Barcalona Rhapsody: that is nice
    Dash Earthboy: the interview was kind grueling...for government job at juvenile detention center
    Barcalona Rhapsody: what time is it with u ?
    Dash Earthboy: here at the house it nearly 4:45 AM
    Barcalona Rhapsody: here is 10.42 am
    Wol Euler: you're up early, or very late
    Dash Earthboy: early
    Barcalona Rhapsody: so u are early bird
    Dash Earthboy: did not get good sleep at son's although they really did everything right
    Barcalona Rhapsody: did u sleep well ?
    Wol Euler: nervous about the job, perhaps
    Barcalona Rhapsody: oh
    Dash Earthboy: i'm mostly a nightowl to start with, making it good for me in music/technology work
    Dash Earthboy: but not good for regular banker's hours jobs
    Barcalona Rhapsody: well i have a gorvernment job
    Wol Euler nods.
    Barcalona Rhapsody: making it good
    Dash Earthboy: yes Wol nervous about the job for sure
    Barcalona Rhapsody: i am almost retiring
    Dash Earthboy: what's your job like Barcalona?
    Barcalona Rhapsody: so no nervous here
    Barcalona Rhapsody: ict-consultanat
    Dash Earthboy: ict?
    Barcalona Rhapsody: at ministry of education
    Sunshine Vayandar: hi Wol, Dash, Sharon ;)
    Dash Earthboy: hi Sunshine!
    Barcalona Rhapsody: information ans communication technology
    Barcalona Rhapsody: and
    Dash Earthboy: cool!
    Barcalona Rhapsody: yeah
    Wol Euler: hello sun
    Wol Euler: oops
    Barcalona Rhapsody: but after 30 years
    Barcalona Rhapsody: its not so cool anymore
    Dash Earthboy: aww
    Dash Earthboy: i still like helping people use the technology better
    Barcalona Rhapsody: sure
    Dash Earthboy: especially for communications & education
    Barcalona Rhapsody: thats social
    Barcalona Rhapsody: hi sun
    Sunshine Vayandar: hi Wol, Barca ;)
    Barcalona Rhapsody: i have a sun rise here
    Dash Earthboy: i've been at it for 25 years
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Dash Earthboy: 'sup Sun?
    Barcalona Rhapsody: now all ict is in the cloud
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
    Dash Earthboy: cloud is great for connected people...not so much for poorer 3rd worlders
    Barcalona Rhapsody: so helping with using is still a good job
    Barcalona Rhapsody: but in ten years Africa is a majority
    Dash Earthboy: i'm real fascinated by the outreach in Brazil and discuss that with friends there
    Barcalona Rhapsody: and not a 3rd country
    Dash Earthboy: they live in Rio
    Barcalona Rhapsody: sure
    Dash Earthboy: still remote places in Brazil to reach out to
    Barcalona Rhapsody: good work man !
    Dash Earthboy: yah but Portuguese is hard!
    Sunshine Vayandar: ty Barca ;)
    Barcalona Rhapsody: plesure is mine
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
    Barcalona Rhapsody: so thats also well-being
    Barcalona Rhapsody: helping 3rd world ppl with use of ict
    Dash Earthboy: so I just installed Imprudence in this 64-bit ver of Ubuntu 11 and thought I'd visit my fav SL site
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Barcalona Rhapsody: why do u smile Wol ?
    Wol Euler: at dash's comment
    Barcalona Rhapsody: ok
    Dash Earthboy: i haven't been on SL so much last couple months
    Dash Earthboy: this is one place I still feel good about
    Barcalona Rhapsody: me too
    Wol Euler: well, I'm glad of that, but sorry that the rest of SL is disappointing you
    Dash Earthboy: oh that's ok Wol
    Dash Earthboy: it's a big world :)
    Barcalona Rhapsody: that is after the hype
    Barcalona Rhapsody: there remains a usefull small part
    Barcalona Rhapsody: and PaB is such a usefull part of SL
    Barcalona Rhapsody: i think
    Dash Earthboy: yes!
    Sunshine Vayandar: PaB is great ;)
    Sunshine Vayandar: but one can do lots of great things in SL I think
    Wol Euler: definitely
    Dash Earthboy: i've rebaked several times and still am in a fog :(
    Sunshine Vayandar: I see you Dash
    Sunshine Vayandar: I don't see Barca
    Wol Euler: heheheh
    Dash Earthboy: i see Barca & you and Wol
    Dash Earthboy: So what did everyone do for Cinqo de Mayo?
    Barcalona Rhapsody: 5 may we had freedom day
    Wol Euler: stayed home, dozed, played in WoW and SL
    Sunshine Vayandar: what happens on Cinqo de Mayo?
    Dash Earthboy: any reason to party Barca!
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
    Barcalona Rhapsody: yes
    Barcalona Rhapsody: but just stayed at home
    Dash Earthboy: i had a grueling interview and got lost on the way home myself
    Dash Earthboy: developed a migraine and ended up taking to bed at 7 PM
    Barcalona Rhapsody: ok
    Barcalona Rhapsody: that was your cinco the mayo ?
    Dash Earthboy: yep
    Barcalona Rhapsody: now its 6 may
    Dash Earthboy: yep
    Barcalona Rhapsody: and you may have time to sleep
    Dash Earthboy: well, i'm trying to make up for lost time now...hate being sick y'know?
    Dash Earthboy: the cooling off of the weather has helped some
    Dash Earthboy: you leaving Sunshine?
    Barcalona Rhapsody: ok its getting waremer here
    Barcalona Rhapsody: warmer
    Sunshine Vayandar: no was just looking for the source of the butterflies
    Dash Earthboy: we've had many 80+F days
    Dash Earthboy: i'm glad to save the energy costs from the a/c to keep inside down to 78F
    Dash Earthboy: it's 55F here now
    Dash Earthboy: 62F inside
    Dash Earthboy: i may burn some junk mail in the fireplace to warm it a little
    Barcalona Rhapsody: ah
    Sunshine Vayandar: it's winter here in south africa
    Barcalona Rhapsody: its about 20 degrees celcius here
    Barcalona Rhapsody: in Holland
    Dash Earthboy: i've stopped processing the deadfall
    Barcalona Rhapsody: ok
    Barcalona Rhapsody: when do u start the live grow
    Dash Earthboy: yah Sun, ain't it great to have such different weather around this globe?
    Sunshine Vayandar: but today is about 15-20 degrees
    Sunshine Vayandar: it's only cold at night
    Dash Earthboy: Barca, I only burn deadfall and junk mail in my fireplace
    Barcalona Rhapsody: ok
    Dash Earthboy: lots of deadfall has been coming down now in our terrible storms
    Barcalona Rhapsody: oh
    Dash Earthboy: but it's been too warm to use
    Barcalona Rhapsody: i see
    Dash Earthboy: and too wet as well
    Dash Earthboy: we got flowers up and farmers are growing/harvesting already!
    Dash Earthboy: bees and everything have been very busy
    Dash Earthboy: i expect my blackberries will be in at least a month early
    Wol Euler: wow
    Dash Earthboy: yes, the early warmth has done a number on us...then the storms try to ruin it all
    Dash Earthboy: so much death & destruction here lately
    Wol Euler nods.
    Barcalona Rhapsody: ok i see
    Dash Earthboy: at least where I am the worst stuff seems to go around rather than hit us right on
    Barcalona Rhapsody: sounds heavy
    Dash Earthboy: i've tried to choose location wisely for decades
    Wol Euler: those storms last week were terrible
    Dash Earthboy: yah
    Wol Euler: (USA)
    Wol Euler: tornado warnings for nearly a third of the country
    Dash Earthboy: yah
    Barcalona Rhapsody: yah
    Barcalona Rhapsody: thats different wind than Storm nordwind
    Dash Earthboy: and now the Army Corps of Engineers is releasing water onto good crop land
    Barcalona Rhapsody: thants real storm
    Dash Earthboy: to avoid flooding cities like New Orleans
    Barcalona Rhapsody: so its realy sisky
    Barcalona Rhapsody: risky
    Dash Earthboy: pretty serious stuff we're dealing with
    Barcalona Rhapsody: that must be so
    A little light editing as requested.
    Barcalona Rhapsody: strip tha last sentences out of log
    Wol Euler: ok
    Barcalona Rhapsody: tnx
    Sunshine Vayandar: byebyeee all have to go again
    Wol Euler: bye sun, take care
    Alfred Kelberry: wuff!
    Dash Earthboy: bye Sunshine
    Sunshine Vayandar: have a great weekend
    Dash Earthboy: hi Alf
    Sunshine Vayandar: hi Wuffy ;)
    Wol Euler: hello boxdog
    Alfred Kelberry: butterfly removal team is on sight! :)
    Barcalona Rhapsody: me heve to go too
    Alfred Kelberry: hi :)
    Wol Euler: bye barca, enjoy your day off
    Barcalona Rhapsody: bye all
    Alfred Kelberry: *purrs*
    Wol Euler: a purring dog, what next?
    Alfred Kelberry: ah, good timing :)
    Wol Euler: must be genetically modified
    Alfred Kelberry: everyone leaves
    Alfred Kelberry: it's reaction on the nose clicking
    Dash Earthboy: oh alf, you would have enjoyed my son's place...two cute kitties to play with
    Dash Earthboy: lots of hair ;)
    Dash Earthboy: he warned me to keep my interview clothes away until the last minute before heading for it yesterday
    Wol Euler grins.
    Dash Earthboy: been awhile since I wore a tie, let alone suit jacket
    Wol Euler: I hope it works out, Dash.
    Alfred Kelberry: how did it go, dash?
    Dash Earthboy: thanks
    Dash Earthboy: well, i'm afraid I didn't make a great impression
    Dash Earthboy: i'm putting it all in my memoirs of course for the details
    Alfred Kelberry: wrong tie color?
    Alfred Kelberry: memoirs :)
    Alfred Kelberry: when is it time for memoirs?
    Dash Earthboy: but how about, within 5 minutes of sitting down to fill out paperwork, discovering ink or grease streaks on my hands
    Alfred Kelberry: ouch
    Dash Earthboy: and nobody could find the source
    Dash Earthboy: so i tried to wash it off but still have some residue even now
    Wol Euler: odd
    Alfred Kelberry: *peeks at woly's garters*
    Wol Euler: :-PPPPPP
    Alfred Kelberry: ah, i hope it's at least a nice pattern, dash :)
    Dash Earthboy: and then I come out of the bathroom and they push up the interview almost an hour early before I'm done with the paperwork
    Dash Earthboy: and that's just how it started!
    Wol Euler: :(
    Alfred Kelberry: it makes a good story though :)
    Dash Earthboy: then there's the extremely loud banging noise when they unlock the doors to let people in/out
    Dash Earthboy: it will make a good story, I believe
    Alfred Kelberry: when everyone goes as planned, memoirs turn out boring :)
    Dash Earthboy: i've continued to say: I can't make this stuff up...truth is stranger than fiction for me
    Alfred Kelberry: um, everything :)
    Alfred Kelberry: the door bang awareness
    Dash Earthboy: ah, that's another thing Alf...couldn't go as planned :(
    Alfred Kelberry: this is the title for you :)
    Wol Euler: :)
    Dash Earthboy: my son doesn't have any coffee...so no morning constitutional before leaving
    Dash Earthboy: let alone being difficult to wake up then and make a good showing
    Alfred Kelberry: how old is he?
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Dash Earthboy: so I hope I'll do okay, maybe get the job...but I was only male interviewing that I saw
    Wol Euler: interesting.
    Dash Earthboy: my son? he's a recent graduate w/engineering degree at 22
    Dash Earthboy: and his first real job, he makes what I made at my best job in this area after years of experience ;)
    Wol Euler: lucky
    Wol Euler: and/or inflation :)
    Alfred Kelberry: neat :)
    Dash Earthboy: he is smarter than me I know, and I'm in Mensa, but it doesn't show in his schoolwork
    Dash Earthboy: or lifestyle
    Dash Earthboy: he follows his mother's brand-centric, high-maintenance lifestyle
    Wol Euler: heh
    Wol Euler: just as well he has a high-paying job, then
    Dash Earthboy: like the 3M wireless service
    Dash Earthboy: yes, for sure Wol
    Dash Earthboy: by his age I had invested in land and made payments for 3 years already
    Dash Earthboy: and not got into debt by working to pay for my full class load
    Wol Euler: different generation ...
    Dash Earthboy: but he'll make enough his first year he could pay off what he owes his mother
    Dash Earthboy: on top of what he owes the state now
    Dash Earthboy: but he's got a new car...an HSR? HRS? something like that
    Dash Earthboy: yah Wol, but it's funny how much influence I have had...he does have similar tastes in furnishings to live with
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Dash Earthboy: and he has liked much of what I liked at his age
    Dash Earthboy: but he sets himself apart (since he looks like my twin at that age) by getting himself all tattooed
    Dash Earthboy: at least he didn't get too much pierced besides his ears :)
    Dash Earthboy: hey it has been good catching up w/y'all
    Wol Euler: likewise dash, nice to see you again
    Dash Earthboy: good to see you Alf and Wol you seem to be in a good place today too
    Wol Euler: I hope the job works out.
    Dash Earthboy: thanks
    Dash Earthboy: i'll look forward to when next we meet...peace y'all
    Alfred Kelberry: hi :)
    Wol Euler: hello boxy
    Alfred Kelberry: off you go?
    Wol Euler: not yet
    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    Alfred Kelberry: ok, i'll stay here with you for a while :)
    Wol Euler: how are you today?
    Alfred Kelberry: not bad
    Wol Euler: up really early
    Alfred Kelberry: cafh wiki is finally on
    Wol Euler: cafh?
    Alfred Kelberry: remember the workshop from last year?
    Wol Euler: give me a clue? there were a dozen
    Alfred Kelberry: um... i've only been there once :)
    Wol Euler: what does cafh stand for?
    Wol Euler: I assume it's an acronym
    Alfred Kelberry: but this will give you an idea: http://www.cafh.org/english/index.htm
    Wol Euler: "The word Cafh has ancient roots and several meanings. For example, it is the eleventh letter of the Hebrew alphabet. It also appears in the Tarot as the card Strength, symbolized by the image of a woman holding tight the jaws of a lion. "
    Wol Euler: so it's not an acronym.
    Wol Euler: "Cafh puts forward a universal way of thinking and a method of life which promote the unfolding of the human being. This unfolding consists in expanding one’s consciousness and cultivating a sense of responsibility in relation to one’s own life, one’s family, and the unfolding of humanity. In this way, Cafh fosters personal unfolding together with the advancement of humanity."
    Alfred Kelberry: it looks like a bridal dress :)
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Wol Euler: I should wear the furry scarf, just a mo
    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    Alfred Kelberry: furry girl :)
    Wol Euler: wearing fur feels a little odd now that I have a furry avatar too
    Wol Euler: feels like cannibalism ...
    Alfred Kelberry: ha!
    Alfred Kelberry: um, i have to go
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Alfred Kelberry: thank you for the company, woly :)
    Wol Euler: my pleasure, thank you boxy
    Wol Euler: take care
    Alfred Kelberry: fur well :)
    Wol Euler: :)
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