2011.05.18 13:00 - Baby gaze and Wylie coyote

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    The guardian for that meeting was Fefonz. Comments are by Fefonz Quan.


    [13:10] Fefonz Quan: hello Eliza
    [13:10] Eliza Madrigal: Hi Fef!
    [13:10] Eliza Madrigal: I claimed the log but you can have it back :))
    [13:10] Eliza Madrigal: How are you doing??
    [13:10] Fefonz Quan: thanks :)
    [13:10] Fefonz Quan: I am good. and you?
    [13:11] Eliza Madrigal: Just fine. I'm more curious to hear from you because I don't get to see you much
    [13:11] Fefonz Quan: yes, the down side of parenting life...
    [13:12] Eliza Madrigal: :)) Still in a state of wonder?
    [13:12] Fefonz Quan: her - sure!
    [13:12] Fefonz Quan: just getting more and more curious
    [13:13] Eliza Madrigal: that really never goes away, thankfully :)
    [13:13] Eliza Madrigal: Nice to hear
    [13:13] Eliza Madrigal: What new developments? If you dont mind my prying :)
    [13:14] Fefonz Quan: well, rolling from back to stomache and the other wasy around
    [13:14] Fefonz Quan: and going to swimming leasson with daddy :)
    [13:14] Eliza Madrigal: awww
    [13:14] Eliza Madrigal: you're doing the baby swimming lessons? swim before walking?
    [13:15] Fefonz Quan: well, the main issue of the class is just to be in the water (with couple of other babies), having fun with it, and enjoying ourselves :)
    [13:16] Eliza Madrigal: Nice :)
    [13:16] Wol Euler: hello fef, eliza
    [13:16] Eliza Madrigal: Hi Wol !
    [13:16] Fefonz Quan: Hi Wol!
    [13:17] Fefonz Quan: haven't seen you in white for quite a while
    [13:17] Wol Euler smiles. I've been here...
    [13:18] Fefonz Quan: and it's lovely and suites you too :)
    [13:18] Wol Euler: ty :)
    [13:20] Fefonz Quan: lately i find myself very impatient, at work mostly. I wonder if it relates to the fact that i have very little time for practice
    [13:21] Wol Euler: very possibly :)
    [13:21] Eliza Madrigal: Have you lost the habit of practicing while working?
    [13:22] Fefonz Quan: well, yes in a way.
    [13:22] Wol Euler listens.
    [13:23] Fefonz Quan: and for me i also used to practice for longer times at least once a week
    [13:24] Fefonz Quan: which i found somehow easier to keep
    [13:24] Eliza Madrigal: hmm
    [13:24] Fefonz Quan: (and of course they both amplify each other)
    [13:24] Eliza Madrigal nods
    [13:24] Eliza Madrigal: what about reading and things?
    [13:26] Fefonz Quan: reading like - having some time when you don't have to do or take care of anything and anyone and you can just be with yourself and read ?
    [13:26] Eliza Madrigal: not really... I'm always grazing a book that reminds me to practice
    [13:26] Eliza Madrigal: right now I read two pages of a certain book every day
    [13:26] Wol Euler smiles.
    [13:27] Fefonz Quan: well i do that too.
    [13:27] Fefonz Quan: today it was "the power of now", which although may sound like popular new-age stuff, resonates quite well with our language here (at least in the first chapters aher i am)
    [13:28] Eliza Madrigal nods, agree with you
    [13:29] Wol Euler makes a note
    [13:29] Eliza Madrigal: I have an audio of Tolle's that has something to do with finding the purpose of one's life... so funny and practical
    [13:31] Eliza Madrigal: My favorite portion is where he says "you've never really experienced water"... how we are steps removed all the time
    [13:32] Fefonz Quan: intruigingly, we explicitly express the notion, that some of the paragraphs we writes are not meant toward mind, inderstanding and reasoning, but more toward putting you at(or letting you slide into) some state of intuitive grasping and relaziation
    [13:32] Wol Euler nods thoughtfully. Is that from Tolle?
    [13:33] Fefonz Quan: in fact i believe we experienced water quite a lot when we were babies
    [13:33] Eliza Madrigal: mmm
    [13:33] Fefonz Quan: (hence the baby swimming class!)
    [13:33] Eliza Madrigal smiles
    [13:33] Fefonz Quan: (yes Wol)
    [13:33] Wol Euler: heheheh
    [13:34] Fefonz Quan: and indeed she loves it, even the part you pour water over her head and face. maybe it's because we didn't tell her it's dangerous/unpleasant etc.
    [13:34] Wol Euler nods.
    [13:35] Eliza Madrigal: that's wonderful, yes you didn't get in the way with worries
    [13:35] Eliza Madrigal: I was terrified of bathing my oldest daughter when she was born :)
    [13:36] Eliza Madrigal: so tiny felt like she was going to slip from my hands, hah
    [13:36] Wol Euler nods.
    [13:36] Wol Euler: I can feel that fear, I had it too whenever I held friends' babies
    [13:36] Eliza Madrigal: I'm sure she soaked up some of my anxiety
    [13:36] Fefonz Quan: some friends of mine claim babies are born with the instinct to dive, and it goes away at a few months
    [13:36] Eliza Madrigal: yes I've heard that too
    [13:37] Fefonz Quan: in fact i almost don't feel that fear at all.
    [13:37] Eliza Madrigal: maybe we are naturally 'swimming' sorts of creatures, diving and emerging :::breath:::
    [13:38] Eliza Madrigal: :) like dolphins that switch gears between sleeping and waking all the time, if I understand right
    [13:38] Fefonz Quan: when i first took her from the birth (;abor?) room to the babies room at hospital, a young father-to-be saw me and told me that he is so nervous from the time he'll have to take his baby
    [13:38] Eliza Madrigal: hehe, yes that's how I felt
    [13:38] Eliza Madrigal: "What? You're letting me go?"
    [13:39] Wol Euler: :)
    [13:39] Wol Euler: feeling unready?
    [13:39] Eliza Madrigal: completely
    [13:39] Eliza Madrigal: but I was so young, too
    [13:39] Eliza Madrigal: actually hm, I still feel unready :)
    [13:40] Wol Euler smiles.
    [13:40] Fefonz Quan: yes, i guess that makes some difference. I told him he shouldn't be afraid, that she'll do just great knowing that her father holds her.
    [13:40] Eliza Madrigal: aw, yes
    [13:40] Eliza Madrigal: you seem a very gentle dad Fef
    [13:41] Fefonz Quan: it's getting harder when i am getting tired though :)
    [13:41] Eliza Madrigal: maybe she is your key to 'practice' too
    [13:41] Fefonz Quan: ty:)
    [13:41] Fefonz Quan: yes, there;s a lot of practice here, indeed
    [13:41] Eliza Madrigal: I read an article once, never forgot it... 'baby buddha'
    [13:42] Eliza Madrigal: about rocking and resting, not apologizing for that time
    [13:42] Eliza Madrigal: like today the cat came and layed on my chest so I had to stay resting longer :)
    [13:43] Wol Euler: :)
    [13:44] Fefonz Quan: then you have tp see the image i jsut sent you both (on email)
    [13:44] Wol Euler: ah :)
    [13:44] Eliza Madrigal goes to look...
    [13:45] Eliza Madrigal smiles big during the bell
    [13:45] Wol Euler: :)))
    [13:46] Fefonz Quan: (she is 4 days old there, getting out of hospital, looking at her mother's shirt)
    [13:47] Eliza Madrigal: yes can see the bracelet on mom's wrist.. so precious
    [13:47] Fefonz Quan: well, i couldn't help but send also more recent pictures
    [13:48] Wol Euler: :)
    [13:48] Eliza Madrigal: yay, runs again....
    [13:48] Wol Euler grins and goes to look
    [13:49] Eliza Madrigal: fantastic!
    [13:49] Eliza Madrigal: And you all were tenting??
    [13:49] Fefonz Quan: _/!\_
    [13:50] Fefonz Quan: well, we went too visit friends camping at passover, but we didn't stay overnight
    [13:50] Wol Euler: that's really sweet!
    [13:50] Eliza Madrigal: she already looks so different and growing up...
    [13:50] Eliza Madrigal: time flashing
    [13:51] Eliza Madrigal: Oh, I was going to marvel at how adventurous the two of you were tenting with a baby :)
    [13:51] Fefonz Quan: yes, so fast - i find this is one of tthe hardest things to 'practice'
    [13:51] Eliza Madrigal: :)
    [13:51] Fefonz Quan: well, we thought traveling for a day to the desert was adveturous enough :)
    [13:51] Eliza Madrigal: agree again :)
    [13:52] Eliza Madrigal: hehe
    [13:52] Eliza Madrigal: you look like you know how wonderful it is to be where you are, that moment
    [13:52] Fefonz Quan: this rapid growing feels like you meet a new person every day - but also loose the previous one again and again
    [13:52] Fefonz Quan: yes, i like the desert
    [13:53] Fefonz Quan: impermanence and no-(permanent)-self in it's best
    [13:53] Eliza Madrigal: :)
    [13:54] Wol Euler smiles.
    [13:55] Fefonz Quan: the urge to freeze time, comes up so many times. And though knowing it's not the right (==the way that will stop you from suffering), it seems like i can''t fight it.
    [13:56] Fefonz Quan: the right way*
    [13:56] Wol Euler nods.
    [13:56] Eliza Madrigal: mmm
    [13:56] Eliza Madrigal: you're meeting yourself new each time you notice she's new I guess, too
    [13:57] Fefonz Quan: yes, hence grasping at two old ones at once ;-)
    [13:57] Eliza Madrigal: quite amazing
    [13:57] Fefonz Quan: doesn't make it a bit easier
    [13:58] Eliza Madrigal: definitely not :)
    [13:58] Eliza Madrigal: so satisfying to baby gaze, yet I've certainly never lost the feeling that I'm missing almost all of everything
    [13:59] Fefonz Quan: that comfort illusion of 'cool, we managed to get to our safe steady comfort place and change, though existing, is slow and nice'
    [14:00] Fefonz Quan: has flown of the window
    [14:00] Fefonz Quan: off*
    [14:01] Eliza Madrigal: ah, well I never had that, hah, but what you describe simply sounds like not taking time for granted :)
    [14:01] Wol Euler: hello sam :)
    [14:01] Eliza Madrigal: Hi oO0Oo :D
    [14:02] oO0Oo Resident: hi iWol, Eliza, Fefonz, Bertram :)
    [14:02] Eliza Madrigal: Hi Bert :D
    [14:02] Eliza Madrigal: (though I don't see Bert yet)
    [14:02] Fefonz Quan: "the feeling that I'm missing almost all of everything" - Tolle emphsizes (not originally, but yet) that thoughts take us from the now (and Being) to the worries of the future and the sorrows of the past
    [14:02] oO0Oo Resident: sorry... saw bertram... but he is distant
    [14:03] Fefonz Quan: Hi oOOOo
    [14:03] Eliza Madrigal: ah :) Ty
    [14:03] Wol Euler: so many people rez here but then go elsewhere ...
    [14:03] Fefonz Quan: temporal rezidents? :)
    [14:03] Wol Euler smiles.
    [14:03] Eliza Madrigal: yes, like, while there thinking 'how amazing how amazing' there can be also, 'oh no it is going'
    [14:04] Wol Euler nods.
    [14:04] oO0Oo Resident: oh ya! oh no!
    [14:04] Fefonz Quan: yes!
    [14:04] Eliza Madrigal: yes yes :))
    [14:04] oO0Oo Resident: ;)
    [14:04] oO0Oo Resident: true
    [14:05] Eliza Madrigal thinks of the cartoon figure walking off the mountain and 'don't look down'
    [14:05] Wol Euler: mmhmm
    [14:05] Fefonz Quan: in that feeling i would say how amazing is this conversation with you friends, and let myself go to sleep
    [14:05] Fefonz Quan: :)
    [14:05] Wol Euler smiles.
    [14:05] Wol Euler: goodnight, fef, and hugs to the family
    [14:05] Eliza Madrigal: Sweet dreams Fef, snuggle happily with your family :))
    [14:05] Fefonz Quan: Thanks Wol, Eliza, bye all!
    [14:05] oO0Oo Resident: Cheers Fef :)
    [14:07] Eliza Madrigal: So how are you doing today Samúð ?
    [14:08] oO0Oo Resident: Just watched TED talk Wol recommended on issue of 'being right' or wrong and wxample was given just as you have described Eliza.. Wylie coyote in mid air off the cliff, and then.. he looks down. Uncanny you mention it now o.O :)))
    [14:08] Wol Euler: ah :
    [14:08] Wol Euler: :)
    [14:08] Eliza Madrigal: Oh? have a link?
    [14:08] Wol Euler: do yuo have it handy?
    [14:08] Eliza Madrigal: I haven't seen that one, but I relate to Coyote very much :))
    [14:08] oO0Oo Resident: yes... moment...
    [14:09] Eliza Madrigal: thank you
    [14:09] Wol Euler: http://www.ted.com/talks/kathryn_sch...ing_wrong.html
    [14:09] Eliza Madrigal: thanks :)) Saving this
    [14:09] Wol Euler: it's a good one :)
    [14:10] Eliza Madrigal: I get updates from TED but lately haven't followed many
    [14:10] oO0Oo Resident: this relates well to the geat article that Bleu brought to the guardian emails: http://blog.ted.com/2011/04/19/on-be...lz-on-ted-com/
    [14:11] Eliza Madrigal: thanks too :))
    [14:11] Eliza Madrigal: will watch it twice
    [14:11] oO0Oo Resident: 17 min.s for the log
    [14:11] oO0Oo Resident: Wylie
    [14:11] Wol Euler: :)
    [14:11] oO0Oo Resident: Why lie?
    [14:12] Eliza Madrigal: hmm
    [14:12] Eliza Madrigal: hes always so convinced of his 'super genius'....
    [14:12] Wol Euler: and he "buy into" the promise of capitalism!
    [14:13] Wol Euler: "there's a product for all of your needs!"
    [14:13] Eliza Madrigal: Oh yes!
    [14:13] Eliza Madrigal: usually involves an anvl
    [14:13] Eliza Madrigal: anvil
    [14:13] Wol Euler smiles.
    [14:13] Wol Euler: and always comes from Acme
    [14:13] Eliza Madrigal: hehehe
    [14:13] oO0Oo Resident: presnap snap preemptive
    [14:13] Wol Euler: I loved the inventiveness of that cartoon
    [14:14] Wol Euler: so many ways for things to go deliciously wrong
    [14:14] Eliza Madrigal: heheh
    [14:14] Wol Euler: the anticipation wasn'T to see if he'd succeed, but why he would fail
    [14:15] oO0Oo Resident: a good expose of habitual patterns
    [14:16] Eliza Madrigal nods nods nods... many loony tunes actually... like 'sam and ralph' who check in and out by timeclock every day, one to watch the sheep and the other to try to steal them.....
    [14:16] Wol Euler: oh, htey were great!
    [14:17] Wol Euler: "morning, sam" "morning, ralph" ... "night, sam" "night, ralph"
    [14:17] Wol Euler: and in between, mayhem
    [14:17] Eliza Madrigal: yes :))
    [14:17] Eliza Madrigal: 'this is what we do'
    [14:17] Wol Euler: just a job, y'knowe
    [14:17] Wol Euler: -e
    [14:17] Eliza Madrigal giggling
    [14:17] Wol Euler: me too
    [14:18] Wol Euler: they're on youtube, I think; certainly online somewhere, I found them fairly recently
    [14:18] Eliza Madrigal: maybe watching loony tunes would be as good practice as reading
    [14:18] Eliza Madrigal: :)
    [14:19] Eliza Madrigal: you were actually the one Wol, who informed me there was a 2nd Michegan Frog cartoon
    [14:19] Wol Euler: ah :)))))
    [14:19] Wol Euler laughs.
    [14:19] Wol Euler: my time on earth was not wasted.
    [14:19] Eliza Madrigal giggles
    [14:19] Eliza Madrigal: Are you familiar with that , O?
    [14:20] Eliza Madrigal: the frog that will only sing for one person? and he keeps trying to make something of it
    [14:20] oO0Oo Resident: wasting time on Earth :)? ... no i have not seen the cartoon, but now can look ino it
    [14:20] Eliza Madrigal: hehe
    [14:20] Wol Euler grins.
    [14:20] Wol Euler: I think you will be pleased.
    [14:21] Eliza Madrigal nods
    [14:21] Eliza Madrigal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRnX4quv5W4
    [14:21] Eliza Madrigal: I think this is the whole original cartoon
    [14:21] Wol Euler: aha!
    [14:22] Eliza Madrigal: heisenberg uncertainty principle...
    [14:23] Eliza Madrigal: or I always think of that, what it must be like to try to catch quantum phenomena 'in action'
    [14:23] oO0Oo Resident: I had a friend who had the symbolic representation of that tattooed on her upper arm... still holds as the most compelling tattoo i have ever seen
    [14:23] Wol Euler: huh
    [14:24] Wol Euler: I'd like to see that.
    [14:24] Eliza Madrigal: really!
    [14:25] Eliza Madrigal: Fef was sharing that feeling of wanting to freeze time with his baby :) funny how all these things overlap
    [14:25] oO0Oo Resident: the formula depicted n the upper right of this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncertainty_principle
    [14:26] Wol Euler: okaaaaaaay
    [14:26] Eliza Madrigal: mmmm, an interesting choice indeed
    [14:26] oO0Oo Resident awws inside thinking of Fef and baby...
    [14:26] Eliza Madrigal: :))
    [14:26] oO0Oo Resident: in aw of babies
    [14:27] Wol Euler smiles.
    [14:28] oO0Oo Resident: [pregnant pause]
    [14:28] Wol Euler: :)
    [14:28] Eliza Madrigal smiling and reflecting :)
    [14:29] Eliza Madrigal: spending the day with my 18 yo yesterday still felt like being with a baby in some ways...
    [14:29] Wol Euler: how so?
    [14:29] Eliza Madrigal: we were all in wonder, flitting about from place to place
    [14:29] Eliza Madrigal: in a store looking at everything and laughing, in gardens just appreciating life
    [14:30] oO0Oo Resident: ::all in wonder::
    [14:31] Eliza Madrigal: for whatever reason we didn't stray from that, a total gift
    [14:31] Wol Euler smiles.
    [14:31] Wol Euler: sounds like a wonderful way to spend a day
    [14:32] Eliza Madrigal: indeed :) Then I locked my keys in the car and couldn't do any more running around , hah
    [14:33] Eliza Madrigal: I felt like it was protected in that way strangely, we didn't push
    [14:33] Wol Euler: :)
    [14:33] Eliza Madrigal: when she was little I tried too too hard, buying stuff, going places...
    [14:33] Eliza Madrigal: 'making' fun
    [14:34] oO0Oo Resident: she?
    [14:34] Eliza Madrigal: guess we learn :) My oldest daughter
    [14:34] oO0Oo Resident: ah...
    [14:35] Eliza Madrigal: it was always enough just to go outside and take a walk but I didn't really *know* that when a young mom :)
    [14:36] Eliza Madrigal: :) Sappy today
    [14:36] Wol Euler smiles and nods
    [14:36] Eliza Madrigal: drip drip drip
    [14:36] Wol Euler: sappy is good
    [14:36] Wol Euler: it is Spring after all
    [14:36] oO0Oo Resident: ♥ ♥ ♥ Eliza ♥ ♥
    [14:36] Eliza Madrigal smiles
    [14:36] Eliza Madrigal: Spring saps smiling
    [14:37] oO0Oo Resident: ♥ ♥ ♥ Wol ♥ ♥
    [14:37] Eliza Madrigal: how do you do that??
    [14:37] Eliza Madrigal: special powers? :)
    [14:37] Wol Euler: heheheh
    [14:37] oO0Oo Resident: ♥ ♥ ♥ 0 ♥ ♥
    [14:37] Eliza Madrigal: yay <3
    [14:37] oO0Oo Resident: http://www.copypastecharacter.com/
    [14:38] Wol Euler: oooooooh.
    [14:38] Eliza Madrigal: Nice! thank you!
    [14:38] Wol Euler bookmarks that right away.
    [14:38] oO0Oo Resident: there goes never giving up your super powers
    [14:38] Wol Euler: ☝
    [14:38] oO0Oo Resident: weeee
    [14:38] Eliza Madrigal: just don't give up your supper supper powers
    [14:38] Wol Euler: ✎
    [14:38] Eliza Madrigal: super* hah
    [14:38] Wol Euler: ☃
    [14:38] Eliza Madrigal: that was freudian
    [14:38] Wol Euler: hungry?
    [14:39] oO0Oo Resident sups tea and blushes
    [14:39] oO0Oo Resident: shall we make a baby?
    [14:39] Eliza Madrigal: :)) am trying to figure out the trick... won't let me copy...
    [14:39] Wol Euler: just click on them :)
    [14:39] Wol Euler: then paste here
    [14:40] Wol Euler: °
    [14:40] oO0Oo Resident: ☹... can' find a baby on that page
    [14:40] Wol Euler: °OoO°
    [14:40] Eliza Madrigal grins
    [14:40] Eliza Madrigal: how cute!
    [14:40] Eliza Madrigal: hmmm....
    [14:40] oO0Oo Resident: freudian did you say?
    [14:40] Wol Euler: ※
    [14:40] oO0Oo Resident: weee
    [14:41] oO0Oo Resident: sap flows.. maybe being sappy is to flow
    [14:42] Eliza Madrigal: mmm and get gooey
    [14:42] Eliza Madrigal: haha
    [14:42] oO0Oo Resident iagines Wylie flowing off the cliff... and THEN looking down, and then getting 'gooey'
    [14:43] oO0Oo Resident: *imagines
    [14:43] Wol Euler giggles.
    [14:43] Eliza Madrigal: Oh. oh wow that is what it is like :)
    [14:44] oO0Oo Resident: GUI
    [14:44] Eliza Madrigal: ?
    [14:46] oO0Oo Resident: thank you polit listener
    [14:46] oO0Oo Resident: *polite
    [14:46] Wol Euler: :)
    [14:46] Eliza Madrigal: :)
    [14:47] oO0Oo Resident: is there too much immersion going on, when i start responding in chat to chat bots
    [14:47] oO0Oo Resident: :)
    [14:47] Wol Euler smiles.
    [14:47] Wol Euler: embodiment has its own rules
    [14:48] Eliza Madrigal: :)
    [14:48] oO0Oo Resident: :)
    [14:48] Wol Euler: and people talk to inanimate objects in RL too
    [14:48] Eliza Madrigal: yes
    [14:48] Eliza Madrigal: This morning Boxy rezzed a car and we had an accident, taking a walk during the morning session
    [14:49] Eliza Madrigal: the bumper said : 'Sorry"
    [14:49] Eliza Madrigal: :)
    [14:49] Wol Euler: :)
    [14:49] Eliza Madrigal: I love this about SL
    [14:49] Eliza Madrigal: friendly objects :)
    [14:49] Wol Euler nods.
    [14:50] Eliza Madrigal: the tea set in the tea hut, that checks in with you "don't you feel at one with nature?"
    [14:50] Eliza Madrigal: the end bell here that hits soooo softly
    [14:50] Wol Euler nods.
    [14:50] oO0Oo Resident nods
    [14:51] oO0Oo Resident thinks of copanion robots in Japan
    [14:51] Wol Euler: mmhmm
    [14:51] oO0Oo Resident: a lot of scope
    [14:51] oO0Oo Resident: *companion
    [14:51] Eliza Madrigal: how so? I have seen only the basics perhaps
    [14:51] oO0Oo Resident: for thoughtfulness and gentleness
    [14:52] oO0Oo Resident: there is intentionality to have the robots be as considerate as 'robiticaly' possible
    [14:52] oO0Oo Resident: some.. as pets.. some as aids
    [14:52] Wol Euler: programming compassion
    [14:52] Eliza Madrigal: yes that makes sense of Japan... hm....
    [14:52] Wol Euler: hello steve
    [14:53] stevenaia Michinaga: waves
    [14:53] Eliza Madrigal: high priority on manners and non-intrusiveness
    [14:53] Eliza Madrigal: Hi Stevenia :))
    [14:53] Wol Euler nods.
    [14:53] oO0Oo Resident: hi Stevenaia
    [14:53] stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    [14:53] stevenaia Michinaga: I assume you know me by my hair
    [14:53] Wol Euler: and your nametag :)
    [14:53] Eliza Madrigal: :))
    [14:53] stevenaia Michinaga: smiles, that too
    [14:53] Eliza Madrigal: and your manners :)
    [14:53] oO0Oo Resident: i could hear the grateful dead softly playing in your ear buds
    [14:54] Eliza Madrigal: hehehe
    [14:54] Wol Euler: ah :)
    [14:54] oO0Oo Resident: knew it was you
    [14:54] stevenaia Michinaga: I am prepping for a 6:30 meeting in RL, thought this would be a good place
    [14:54] oO0Oo Resident: Scarlet Begonias
    [14:54] Eliza Madrigal: it had to be youn.... it had to be you....
    [14:54] Eliza Madrigal: *you
    [14:54] stevenaia Michinaga: I should turn my earbuds down
    [14:55] stevenaia Michinaga: didn;r mean to interrupt, pls continue what sounded like a lovely conversation
    [14:55] Wol Euler: apropos the Dead, I'd like to introduce you to something quite lovely, playing IRL chez moi right now
    [14:55] Wol Euler: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6s0F6jTSnoI
    [14:55] Eliza Madrigal: no interruption Stevenaia but yes a lovely conversation :)
    [14:55] Wol Euler: (not the Dead :)
    [14:55] oO0Oo Resident: clicks
    [14:56] Eliza Madrigal clicks
    [14:57] oO0Oo Resident: nice use of left and right channels :))
    [14:57] Wol Euler smiles
    [14:57] stevenaia Michinaga: strange how my internet connection from work always does this to me (only all9ws my hair to appear)
    [14:58] stevenaia Michinaga: but the music is very nice
    [14:58] Eliza Madrigal: rough and clear at once, nods
    [14:58] Wol Euler nods.
    [14:58] Wol Euler: if you liked that, I can recommend the entire album, "trees outside the academy"
    [14:59] oO0Oo Resident lowers eyes softly and feels space in chest
    [14:59] Eliza Madrigal: ah, thanks :))
    [14:59] Wol Euler: yw
    [15:00] oO0Oo Resident: yes... this seems to be how the robots were designed to function... just so :)
    [15:01] Eliza Madrigal: (((((((((((((((((((Samúð Wol Stevenaia))))))))))))))))))))))
    [15:01] oO0Oo Resident names robot sappy
    [15:01] Eliza Madrigal smiles
    [15:01] oO0Oo Resident: (((Eliza)))
    [15:01] Wol Euler: bye eliza, be sappy
    [15:02] Wol Euler: and happy
    [15:02] Wol Euler: happy to be sappy
    [15:02] Eliza Madrigal: :::wishing sappiness for all beings:::::
    [15:02] Eliza Madrigal: :D
    [15:02] Eliza Madrigal: Bye for now
    [15:02] stevenaia Michinaga: bye Eliza
    [15:04] Wol Euler: my dears, It's midnight, I shall head to bed to dream of sap rising
    [15:04] Wol Euler: goodnight, take care, be happy
    [15:04] stevenaia Michinaga: sweet dreams Wol
    [15:05] oO0Oo Resident: [for the log] night Wol :)
    [15:07] oO0Oo Resident passes arms through the space under which Stevenaia's hair foats, seemingly disembodied
    [15:07] oO0Oo Resident: *floats
    [15:07] stevenaia Michinaga: trying to provoke myselfe into existance, harder than it looks
    [15:07] oO0Oo Resident: liberate even the wig?
    [15:07] stevenaia Michinaga: I notice my ear ring and flower are here too
    [15:08] stevenaia Michinaga: sometimes things don;t make sence
    [15:08] oO0Oo Resident: :)
    [15:08] stevenaia Michinaga: would be perfect on halloween
    [15:10] oO0Oo Resident: she wore rings on her ingers and bells on her toe
    [15:10] oO0Oo Resident: *fingers
    [15:10] oO0Oo Resident: *toes
    [15:10] stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    [15:12] oO0Oo Resident: can i check if the recorder has my email, without interfering with the present log claim Stevenaia?
    [15:12] stevenaia Michinaga: I think you need to do it after you claim a log
    [15:13] oO0Oo Resident: OK ty
    [15:13] stevenaia Michinaga: do you have a session, Samúð?
    [15:14] oO0Oo Resident: no assigned session.. but trying to be prepared to jup in and help on open slots should I get a chance
    [15:14] oO0Oo Resident: *jump
    [15:14] oO0Oo Resident: leap
    [15:14] oO0Oo Resident: take a chance
    [15:14] oO0Oo Resident: risk
    [15:14] stevenaia Michinaga: you can hop on my session tonight if you want to give it a try
    [15:14] oO0Oo Resident: give it a go
    [15:15] stevenaia Michinaga: I will be there to assist
    [15:15] oO0Oo Resident: will keep that in mind.. if i am near net access.. ty
    [15:15] stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    [15:19] stevenaia Michinaga: thought if I sat on your pillow you could wear my hair
    [15:23] oO0Oo Resident ponders.. to be really seen.. to see oneself as others might in observing me discretely.. to experience the having.. that others have.. when dropped, we all are.. this infinate uncertainty
    [15:24] stevenaia Michinaga: smiles, yes, yet other'ssometimes ahve a greater certainly about you than you do.
    [15:24] stevenaia Michinaga: I have come to appreciate that :)
    [15:24] oO0Oo Resident: ♥ ♥ ♥ Stevenaia ♥ ♥ ♥
    [15:26] stevenaia Michinaga: what others see about you is what is really seen....
    [15:27] oO0Oo Resident: ♥ ♥ ♥ heart of hearts without birth or death ♥ ♥ ♥
    [15:27] stevenaia Michinaga: looks for heart key
    [15:27] stevenaia Michinaga: <3
    [15:27] stevenaia Michinaga: ♥
    [15:27] stevenaia Michinaga: I borrowed yur heart
    [15:28] stevenaia Michinaga: a much more refined heart than mine
    [15:29] oO0Oo Resident: ♥ ♥ ♥ heart of hearts without birth or death ♥ ♥
    [15:32] stevenaia Michinaga: time for Rl meeting
    [15:32] stevenaia Michinaga: see you soon
    [15:33] oO0Oo Resident: Best wishes Stevenaia.. see you
    [15:33] oO0Oo Resident: within the heart of us
    [15:33] oO0Oo Resident: .
    [15:33] oO0Oo Resident: [for the log] GUI pronounced Gooey (graphical user interface)
    [15:35] oO0Oo Resident: ☂ ♥


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