Page last modified 11:16, 22 May 2011 by Lia Rikugun

*The Guardian for this meeting was Lia Rikugun. The comments are by Lia Rikugun.*

Eherim Infinity: Hi folks.

Wol Euler: hello lia, eherim

Wol Euler: nice to see you again, eherim

Lia Rikugun: hi wol and eherim

Eherim Infinity: Same.

Lia Rikugun: nice to meet you eherim

Eherim Infinity: I am glad to be here.

Lia Rikugun: you also have a fish like bruce

Eherim Infinity: Yes, fishing is fun.

Lia Rikugun: :)

Wol Euler: at least a flying nametag :) I see only your wings and a cloud

Wol Euler: ah! just rezzed

Eherim Infinity: This is a mermaid, named aftr a best SL friend.

Wol Euler: ah, sweet

Lia Rikugun: ah mermaid :) nice

Eherim Infinity: She is. :-)

Wol Euler smiles.

Eherim Infinity: Will someone turn up in a short while or don't we expect anyone els?

Lia Rikugun: maybe and maybe not :)

Wol Euler: hard to say :) people tend to drift in as they have time

Wol Euler: but we can certainly start in, if you have a topic to suggest?

*coincidences and unlikelynesses*

Eherim Infinity: Hmm. I'd like to dicsuss coincidences and unlikelynesses.

Lia Rikugun: ok listening :)

Wol Euler: okay :)

Eherim Infinity: And what to do when something that's just to unlikely to happen happens.

Wol Euler: perhaps we adjust our ideas of probability?

Wol Euler: reconsider how we made that evaluation?

Eherim Infinity: Yes, or dismiss the term.

Wol Euler: perhaps there was a factor we left out, when considering how unlikely X was

Wol Euler: or perhaps just the timescale: when we say something is a "once in a hundred years" event, that does NOT mean that it can't happen tomorrow.

Eherim Infinity: Well - you know people with skitzofrenia seldomly know they are sick. They don't realize that what they experience is a hallucination. Perhaps unlikeliness is a sign of something fundamental being twisted?

Eherim Infinity: The aktualization of the world being more concious than usually.

Wol Euler: I'm not sure. Do you suggest that the improbable event means that reality is "twisted", or that we are misunderstanding reality?

Eherim Infinity: The latter.

Wol Euler: well, we probably do that constantly :) even in cases where nothing "unlikely" happens

Eherim Infinity: The interpretaion of reality, that I am a big fan of, states that reality is partly created by our brains, so that we can cope with it, and partly created by the general idea of the world - consensus - what we agree uppon.

Eherim Infinity: Skitzofrenic people lack the consensus part and create a world of their own.

--BELL--

Eherim Infinity: I guess that unlike events could be explained by something in between those twoe extremes.

Eherim Infinity: - If they are so unlike, people wouldn't believe in it.

Wol Euler: the thing to remember is that what we call "reality" is a map of what exists, not the existing stuff itself

Eherim Infinity: Very true.

Wol Euler: it's necessarily incomplete,and parts of it are certainly wrong

Wol Euler: so basically, I agree wiht your last statement :)

Eherim Infinity: Thanks. Some very unlikely events happend to me lately, and talking it through makes it easier to comprehend.

Lia Rikugun: bad or good unlikely?

Eherim Infinity: Very good. :-)

Lia Rikugun: oh hey great

Wol Euler: ah :)

Eherim Infinity: Yes, I guess I should just enjoy it.

Lia Rikugun: what is it if I jay ask?

Lia Rikugun: *may

Lia Rikugun: haha curious me

Eherim Infinity: Hmmm - One thing is that I have a collegue who claim to be psychic claivoyant.

Lia Rikugun: sorry no need to answer the question

Lia Rikugun: oh wow interesting

Wol Euler listens.

Lia Rikugun: and is he?

*suddenly Eherim left but as it turned out, he only had internet problems :)*

Lia Rikugun: ups

Wol Euler: a bridge too far, perhaps :)

Lia Rikugun: did i say something wrong?

Wol Euler smiles and shrugs. We may never know.

Lia Rikugun: oh i am sorry, maybe i should not have asked

Wol Euler: but poofing is a bit drastic as a reaction

Wol Euler: he could just have said "sorry, dan't ciscuss that"

Wol Euler: *can't discuss

Lia Rikugun: wellwell

Wol Euler: wb

Lia Rikugun: oh hey you are back

Lia Rikugun: we thought you left us :)

Eherim Infinity: Hehe. Connection problem.

Lia Rikugun: hey just to let you know i am asking because i am so curious of course you dont need to answer if you dont feel like it

*psychic claivoyant*

Eherim Infinity: Well My collegue - I never really beleived in her gifts untill this week, where she asked if she could use them on this SL friend of mine, who I named this mermaid after.

Eherim Infinity: She said 5 or so statements and EVERYTHIG was dead spot on.

Lia Rikugun: dead spot on means correct

Wol Euler: huh

Lia Rikugun: yes?

Wol Euler: yes

Eherim Infinity: And not typical things but very specific stuff.

Eherim Infinity: Yes.

Lia Rikugun: wow interesting

Lia Rikugun: maybe she is a hacker and hacked the linden server to see the acht logs :)

Lia Rikugun: ok just kidding

Lia Rikugun: *chat

Eherim Infinity: :-D

Lia Rikugun: i guess there are things we cant understand

Lia Rikugun: but this doesnt mean we should not be open to it

Eherim Infinity: Then yestoday, when I was on my way back from town, riding my bicyckle I got so conviced, that when I came home and logged on, she would log on the moment after. I cind of just knew it, with a sensation of comfort. And of course it happend.

Lia Rikugun: giving it the possibility to be true will let you be open towards it

Lia Rikugun: wow thats great

Eherim Infinity: Yes, great and baffeling.

Lia Rikugun: i had similar experiences

Lia Rikugun: but with things I wanted to say in a group

--BELL--

Lia Rikugun: and then someone else just says it

Eherim Infinity: :-)

*being open *

Eherim Infinity: I think, it's important that we enjoy those moments, and not just reject them as nonsense.

Lia Rikugun: as if there was a thought exchange

Wol Euler nods.

Eherim Infinity: And have them be a hint of what the world is build of.

Lia Rikugun: yes

Lia Rikugun: and in the end you dont know if this is just coincidence or maybe something else

Eherim Infinity: Also true.

Lia Rikugun: but having this open I think is good

Wol Euler: perhaps coincidence is just the modern word for "miracle"

Eherim Infinity: I nod to that.

Wol Euler: calling something a coincidence basically says "I can't explain it"

Lia Rikugun: yes :)

*seeing into the future*

Eherim Infinity: Yes. About being certain of something is going to happen with a sensation of relaxed comfortness - do you know that feeling?

Eherim Infinity: And then it happends?

Lia Rikugun: i want to say yes, but i cant remember anything :)

Lia Rikugun: so maybe no

Lia Rikugun: or maybe you just forget because it does not fit into the structure

Eherim Infinity: OK, cause I have tried it a few times before too.

Eherim Infinity: When it happens, it's the most thrilling experience. It makes you feel quite close to reality.

Lia Rikugun: can you control that? or does this happen suddenly?

Lia Rikugun: when does this happen?

Eherim Infinity: I can't decide for it to happen at all.

Eherim Infinity: I don't know if there is a pattern.

Eherim Infinity: Mayby it helps to be in a relaxed comforting state.

Eherim Infinity: THere was this bowling tournament an evening with my colleagus at a workplace I used to work for a few years ago.

Eherim Infinity: And they had this competition of guessing the scores of all the games added together.

Eherim Infinity: With a prize to it.

Eherim Infinity: And when I had wrote my guess, I sort of tried to feel what to write, while relaxing.

Lia Rikugun: ah

Lia Rikugun: and?

Eherim Infinity: And then I just knew I would win, in a comforting relaxing way, and it happend.

Lia Rikugun: wow thats amazing

Wol Euler: yeah, wow

Lia Rikugun: so by relaxing you find reality

Eherim Infinity: It's not something that happens very often, sadly. :-)

Lia Rikugun: or well at least the future... :)

Lia Rikugun: nice, i wish i had this super power

Eherim Infinity: Once every three years or so.

Wol Euler smiles.

Lia Rikugun: ah tahts the pattern eherim

Wol Euler: yeah, it could be useful if you could do it at will :)

Eherim Infinity: Yes, really.

Lia Rikugun: for the lottery

Lia Rikugun: ;)

Eherim Infinity: So true. :-)

Eherim Infinity: lols

Lia Rikugun: with a friend of mine we tried thought exchange :)

Lia Rikugun: she would think of a word

Lia Rikugun: and I should concentrate very hard and see it

Lia Rikugun: this was a while back and we only tried it out once

Lia Rikugun: HAHA, and it didnt work

Eherim Infinity: Well, see if you can do it. I think most people can, but I also think that when moste people experiece it, it is rejected as coincidence or imagination.

Lia Rikugun: yes

Lia Rikugun: i see it

Lia Rikugun: but it could be coincidence

Eherim Infinity: It could.

Lia Rikugun: but it doesnt matter it is still interesting

Lia Rikugun: when this happens

Lia Rikugun: of course if you can read your friends minds

Lia Rikugun: there is always a logical explanation

Eherim Infinity: Only thing, I haven't felt the compforting certainty when it didn't come true. But still that could also be a coincidence, that's true.

--BELL--

Lia Rikugun: you know each other better, you have the same thought patterns

Eherim Infinity: OK, thanks for listening to this. :-)

Wol Euler smiles.

Wol Euler: thank you for telling us

Lia Rikugun: sure very interesting

Lia Rikugun: thanks

Eherim Infinity: I don't really have anything more to ad, so now is the time to put on the silly hats. :-)

Lia Rikugun: hehe

*wearing silly hats :)*

Eherim Infinity: Anyone got a silly hat?

Lia Rikugun: i dont

Lia Rikugun: :(

Lia Rikugun: but a silly tail

Eherim Infinity: Niiiice. :-)

Wol Euler: it's a demo, but it is quite silly

Lia Rikugun: wow thats huge wol

Wol Euler: yeah

Eherim Infinity: I got one, that removes my hair, when I wear it.

Wol Euler: other than this I have only serious hats

Wol Euler: you could try attaching it to your chin instaed of hte default positoin

Eherim Infinity: OK, thanks.

Lia Rikugun: hehe cute

Wol Euler: heheh

Lia Rikugun: outchy

Wol Euler: now edit that

Wol Euler: move it up and back a bitz

Wol Euler: then you can re-attach your hair normally

Wol Euler: right :)

Wol Euler: back a bit

Wol Euler: beteter :)

Wol Euler: *better

Eherim Infinity: :-D

Eherim Infinity: OK, any other subject to talk about?

Lia Rikugun: i only have the default stuff

Wol Euler: we'll go shopping some day, lia :)

Wol Euler: but you know, all the standard avatars' bits and pieces are available free to you

Wol Euler: scroll down to the very bottom of your inventory window, then open "Library"

Lia Rikugun: yes yes thats where i am looking ;)

Wol Euler: :)

Eherim Infinity: A have a set of maracas.

Wol Euler: manbo!

Eherim Infinity: One never know when you need maracas.

Lia Rikugun: hehe cool

Eherim Infinity: Hahaha.

Eherim Infinity: And you just NEVER get tired of this tune.

Wol Euler: :)

Wol Euler: alreayd got them, thanks :)

Lia Rikugun: i have this

Eherim Infinity: Ahhh, good.

Lia Rikugun: :)

Lia Rikugun: yeay

Eherim Infinity: Then you are well off.

Lia Rikugun: haha

Eherim Infinity: Aaah, you can change position by clicking the pillow. Why didn't you say so?

Eherim Infinity: :-)

Wol Euler: eveyrone knows that :)

--BELL--

Wol Euler: this probably counts as a silly hat

Lia Rikugun: oh wow

Eherim Infinity: Did you hear Lars Von Triers press conference in Cannes?

Wol Euler: no?

Eherim Infinity: Uh, nice silly hat.

Lia Rikugun: ok i think its time for me to go to bed

Eherim Infinity: OK, He just got kicked out of there, for telling a weird joke about understanding hitler and being more of a nazi than a jew.

Lia Rikugun: was nice to see you

Wol Euler: huh

Eherim Infinity: I guess the irony got lost in translation.

Wol Euler: goodnight, lia, sleep well

Lia Rikugun: good night

Wol Euler: do we assume that there was any irony in it?

Eherim Infinity: Oh yes. Being a Dane I could tell it was written all over it.

Wol Euler: ah.

Eherim Infinity: But anyway. That's not so important. He was just being clunpsy and now the whole world thinks of him as a nazi. It even made NY Times Headlines.

Wol Euler nods.

Eherim Infinity: Makes one want to be a bit more carefull when speaking a forreign language.

Eherim Infinity: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LayW8aq4GLw

Wol Euler: ty

Eherim Infinity: He always want's to provoke but this time he went to far out of a line.

Wol Euler nods.

Wol Euler: clever guy being stupid :)

Wol Euler: funny how often that happens

Eherim Infinity: :-)

Eherim Infinity: OK, I'll leave now. Thanks for you company. Has been a pleasure.

Wol Euler: likewise, eherim.

Wol Euler: take care

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