2011.05.20 07:00 - Friday Views

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Lucinda Lavender. The comments are by Lucinda Lavender.Attending were Alfred, Bleu, Darren, Dash, Eliza, Malinson,  Xirana, Yaku....and visible as a halo Stevenaia.


    Darren Islar: bye everyone leaving
    Pema Pera: bye everybody!
    Bleu Oleander: bye Pema :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Where will you be, Luci?
    Lucinda Lavender: I will be looking for someone to step in....Graduation in DE and then new york
    Eliza Madrigal: Sounds wonderful
    Eliza Madrigal: Off hand, I think I can do it

    Eliza Madrigal: yay :D
    Lucinda Lavender: yes ! Yay!
    Bleu Oleander: sounds fun Luci
    Lucinda Lavender: intern
    Bleu Oleander: intern at the Met?
    Lucinda Lavender: yes
    Darren Islar: (is not really here, I'm afraid)
    Lucinda Lavender: American Wing
    Bleu Oleander: wonderful
    Lucinda Lavender: yes!
    Bleu Oleander: oh how nice is that!
    Darren Islar: met?
    Lucinda Lavender: the Museum yes
    Bleu Oleander: metmuseum .org
    Bleu Oleander: I love their American wing
    Lucinda Lavender: so many things in process
    Lucinda Lavender: Cool Bleu:)
    Lucinda Lavender: what have you seen?
    Bleu Oleander: don't forget to check out the roof exhibition
    Lucinda Lavender: ok...
    Bleu Oleander: wonderful view up there
    Darren Islar doesnt' understand the discussion
    Lucinda Lavender: DArren...there is this museum in NYC The Metropolitain Museum of Art...
    Eliza Madrigal: Darren, Luci's grown daughter will be an intern at the Met museum in NY
    Lucinda Lavender:  will be an intern for the next year after she graduates
    Eliza Madrigal: wonderful opportunity (oh, sorry to step on chat toes)
    Bleu Oleander: Anthony Caro on the roof
    Lucinda Lavender: is ok:)
    Lucinda Lavender: who is anthony?
    Darren Islar: thanks )
    Xirana Oximoxi: oh! thanks for asking panther!! I also didn't understand well... congratulations Luci!! sounds fantastic!
    Bleu Oleander: will have to stop in to see her when in NYC this fall Luci
    Darren Islar: and in it are Wings?
    Lucinda Lavender: Luci is a preschool teacher so does not know her artists so much:)
    Darren Islar: (sorry, will stop my stupid questions :))
    Eliza Madrigal: I've covered such a small section of the Met... missed almost all of it, proportionally
    Lucinda Lavender: please do Bleu:)
    Eliza Madrigal: :) though I have wandered for horus
    Eliza Madrigal: *hours
    Eliza Madrigal: Not Horus, hehe
    Lucinda Lavender: 3.5 million objects?
    Xirana Oximoxi: no no... keep asking!!! :))
    Bleu Oleander: Met is "home" to me :))
    Darren Islar: but I'm happy for you and your daughter
    Eliza Madrigal smiles
    Lucinda Lavender: wow...Bleu...thank you Darren
    Lucinda Lavender: it is way outside my experience
    Lucinda Lavender: so am gearing up...dream of cockroaches:)
    Bleu Oleander: hahaha
    Bleu Oleander: bedbugs too
    Lucinda Lavender: yes:)
    Eliza Madrigal: It was after returning from the first Met trip that I made my 'infinite possibilities' board at home, that the kids love... was so inspired. It tells why I'm not an 'artist' because I'd need to go to the museum before each creation
    Lucinda Lavender: :)))
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Lucinda Lavender: wow
    Bleu Oleander: that is being an artist Eliza :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)) well, it is nice to know the pool is there to draw from
    Lucinda Lavender: so watershed experience...with everything seeming different after?
    Xirana Oximoxi: it exist no artist born from the nothing
    Eliza Madrigal: in a way I think it does 'reset' one to nothing, when another artists sort of hm....
    Eliza Madrigal: flips your perspective
    Lucinda Lavender: I imagine that too
    Eliza Madrigal: like a pallate cleanser?
    Eliza Madrigal: you get knocked around, in a museum, sometimes, hahah... especially in a modern section
    Lucinda Lavender: beauty, view, the shifting from one object to another
    Eliza Madrigal: mmm, nods
    Darren Islar nods
    Eliza Madrigal: and all those simultaneous views
    Lucinda Lavender: are there any specific things that you viewed that did the flip?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey boxy
    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i wonder how virtual reality will have an impact on rl museums as well, maybe regular virtual trips through all museums of the word for a fee ?
    Bleu Oleander: hi boxy
    Alfred Kelberry: hi :)
    Xirana Oximoxi: hi Boxy:)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i like the google art project
    Alfred Kelberry: wuff!
    http://www.googleartproject.com/museums/met said Yaku whose name I accidentally included in the link and wanted to undo from the link:)
    Eliza Madrigal: hard to say, for me it was something more 'through and through' that taking in many views shows up
    Lucinda Lavender: thanks Yaku!
    Alfred Kelberry: oh, cool, yaku
    Eliza Madrigal: thanks Ya!
    Alfred Kelberry: i didn't know about this one
    Bleu Oleander: http://www.googleartproject.com/
    Lucinda Lavender: I was able to look at it one day too...great way to get ready


    Lucinda Lavender: whispering hi to boxy
    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    Alfred Kelberry: *wiggles his tail*
    Xirana Oximoxi: Yaku, in my view it will never be the same to see works of art in RL...it's like going to a live concert in RL or in SL.. interesting and some thiing similar, but the light, feelings ...are different
    Darren Islar: hey boxy
    Lucinda Lavender: being with the art...
    Eliza Madrigal nods.. direct experience Xirana, texture
    Xirana Oximoxi: sorry
    Eliza Madrigal: though....
    Eliza Madrigal: I was thinking, when I saw Bleu's picture in her time report, that it was 'RL wall worthy'... made the wall between SL/RL almost ridiculous seeming
    Yakuzza Lethecus: yes, but in for example a virtual world you can even do it together with someone at any time, so virtual words can provide shared experiences
    Alfred Kelberry: xir, never say never :)
    Bleu Oleander: great to have options for those that can't directly experience though
    Eliza Madrigal: yes, and the options will become better
    Bleu Oleander: :)) Eliza
    Eliza Madrigal: we'll be able to 'feel' at some point
    Alfred Kelberry: i think it will match rl experiences one day
    Eliza Madrigal: yes
    Lucinda Lavender: whe the art speaks to you...
    Xirana Oximoxi: I must go... nice weekend to all and see you soon!
    Bleu Oleander: was fun to "get in the movie"
    Eliza Madrigal: Nice to see you too Xirana
    Yakuzza Lethecus: bye xirana
    Lucinda Lavender: thanks Xirana:) same for you...
    Bleu Oleander: bye Xirana
    Eliza Madrigal: :) Bleu... that showed!
    Alfred Kelberry: fiesta, xir? :)
    Bleu Oleander: haha
    Lucinda Lavender: is it available for me to see Bleu?
    Darren Islar: need to go too
    Bleu Oleander: yes, on my time report
    Lucinda Lavender: happy weekend Darren:)
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye Darren
    Lucinda Lavender: ok
    Yakuzza Lethecus: bye darren
    Darren Islar: sorry I wasn't really here, but I will be next time :)
    Eliza Madrigal: I'll find the link Luci... might be tricky if not familiar
    Alfred Kelberry: oh, bleu
    Alfred Kelberry: nice hat :)
    Xirana Oximoxi: family coming now.. must go to say hello.. but I will discuss this 'never say never' about rl art next time!!! bye to all!!
    Xirana Oximoxi: :)
    Lucinda Lavender: :)))
    Bleu Oleander: thx boxy :)
    Lucinda Lavender: thanks Eliza
    Bleu Oleander: http://wiki.playasbeing.org/PaB_Books/Magic_of_Time/Time_Sessions/Weekly_Reports/2011%2f%2f05%2f%2f20%3a_Reports/2011%2f%2f05%2f%2f18%3a_Bleu_Oleander
    Alfred Kelberry: oops, i only see stev's head
    Bleu Oleander: there'a link to the movie there too
    Eliza Madrigal: ah, thanks Bleu
    Eliza Madrigal: Boxy, that's normal :)
    Bleu Oleander: very short film ... lovely
    Alfred Kelberry: is it?
    Eliza Madrigal: It is Stevie's current puzzle
    Bleu Oleander: won lots of awards
    Alfred Kelberry: hehe
    Alfred Kelberry: was it riddle's idea? :)
    Lucinda Lavender: wonderful report Bleu..
    Bleu Oleander: ty!
    Eliza Madrigal: it is an SL oddity Boxy
    Bleu Oleander: you can watch the movie on line
    Eliza Madrigal: Stevenaia may have to make a new av to fix it, not sure
    Alfred Kelberry: thank you, blue. i'll watch it.
    stevenaia Michinaga: no, it;s just this internet connection at my office, it;s fine at home, no explanation
    Eliza Madrigal: hm
    Lucinda Lavender: hmmmand have just been singing in my mind...I see the moon..the moon sees me...
    Bleu Oleander: are you using the same viewer in both places?
    Alfred Kelberry: stev, you still have your halo though :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: same computer
    Eliza Madrigal: I love the moon and the moon sees me
    Bleu Oleander: oh how weird
    Eliza Madrigal: s/o reversal...
    stevenaia Michinaga: when I go home and plug in I'm "normal"
    stevenaia Michinaga: hehe
    Bleu Oleander: not the moon ... steve's computer :)
    Lucinda Lavender: oh! I wondered where steve was:)
    stevenaia Michinaga: lol
    Eliza Madrigal: Hey Dash
    Bleu Oleander: have you tried putting on different skin/clothes?
    Lucinda Lavender: hi Dash!
    stevenaia Michinaga: so did I , I was actually distracted by work but here intermittancetly (like when I see my name flash across the screen)
    Dash Earthboy: hey y'all
    Alfred Kelberry: dashing through the snow :)
    Dash Earthboy: what snow alf?
    Alfred Kelberry: um... just a song. sorry :)
    Dash Earthboy: hehe
    Eliza Madrigal: I have to dash, actually....
    Dash Earthboy: awww
    Eliza Madrigal: but nice to linger a bit today :) Congrats again Luci
    Eliza Madrigal: and thanks everyone
    Alfred Kelberry: thank you for your emails, eliza :)
    Bleu Oleander: me too
    Lucinda Lavender: thanks Eliza...
    Bleu Oleander: take care everyone
    Dash Earthboy: bye Bleu
    Dash Earthboy: bye Eliza
    Alfred Kelberry: congrats luci? what happened?
    Bleu Oleander: bye :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)) Bye for now
    Lucinda Lavender: If you cannot do Friday am please let me know:)
    Alfred Kelberry: luci, you got promoted? :)
    Dash Earthboy: wow, did I forget to shower?
    Alfred Kelberry: jump in, dash :)
    Lucinda Lavender: no I get to visit my daughter for her graduation and help her move to NYC
    Dash Earthboy: hehe
    Lucinda Lavender: to do an internship at the MEt
    Dash Earthboy: sounds wonderful Luc!
    Alfred Kelberry: oh, big day, luci - congrats, indeed :)
    Lucinda Lavender: yes...and I am in awe
    Alfred Kelberry: hehe
    Lucinda Lavender: how was the water Boxy?
    Alfred Kelberry: cold
    Lucinda Lavender: nodding
    Alfred Kelberry: but refreshing :)
    Lucinda Lavender: sunny day for you?
    Alfred Kelberry: yep
    Lucinda Lavender: finally we are having a sunny day or two
    Alfred Kelberry: so good outside
    Dash Earthboy: i've been up for 6 hours
    Dash Earthboy: got outside for awhile before the heat
    Lucinda Lavender: early rising...ah!
    Dash Earthboy: seriously
    Dash Earthboy: 4:30 AM
    Lucinda Lavender: we all have such different weather...
    Dash Earthboy: Code Orange day here for air quality
    Lucinda Lavender: ah...
    Dash Earthboy: hi Lieble
    Dash Earthboy: who
    Lucinda Lavender: how do you do Lieble:)
    Dash Earthboy: who's recording this morning?
    Lucinda Lavender: it is I
    Dash Earthboy: ah!
    Lucinda Lavender: or me...
    Dash Earthboy: which of you is it?
    Dash Earthboy: :)
    Lucinda Lavender: I am a little distracted...thinking about so many things
    Lucinda Lavender: well both I and me
    Lucinda Lavender: :)
    Lieble Cuttita: I'm welll thank you, I didn't wanted to interrupt, plaese pardon me
    Dash Earthboy: ya, i got another conference IM going and am finishing an email right now too
    Lucinda Lavender: I see Dash...busy too:)
    Lucinda Lavender: and Lieble have you been here before?
    Dash Earthboy: multi-tasking as usual
    Lucinda Lavender: we have a recorder going...
    Lucinda Lavender: which then puts the conversation on a website
    Lieble Cuttita: I passed by once, as I am now
    Lucinda Lavender: was thinking I could send you a link to view it:)
    Dash Earthboy: bye Lieble
    Dash Earthboy: well, you tried Luc
    Lucinda Lavender: :)...I could not see here so I was slow to send:)
    Dash Earthboy: Alf maybe you could have given her a lovebite?
    Lucinda Lavender: you know...I think I should go...must get my brain ready for work
    Dash Earthboy: Whaddya think Yaku?
    Dash Earthboy: awww, okay Luc...gtsy
    Lucinda Lavender: Dash...hope the weather cools for you
    stevenaia Michinaga: time to go, thanks for being (here)
    Dash Earthboy: thanks but not likely
    Dash Earthboy: bye Stev
    Lucinda Lavender: bye steve:)
    Dash Earthboy: whew, and my other IM conference is done too
    Lucinda Lavender: simplifying then...
    Dash Earthboy: hope I don't get bored ;)
    Dash Earthboy: yes, Luc I'm always simplifying
    Lucinda Lavender: well I hope so too
    Lucinda Lavender: I am rarely bored but occassionally restless
    Dash Earthboy: i'm amazed how complex my life is for one who only wants simplicity
    Dash Earthboy: haha...yeah, I was kidding Luc...i'm never bored
    Lucinda Lavender: perhaps it reflects your brains abilities
    Lucinda Lavender: I figured...:)
    Dash Earthboy: oh? do you know about my Mensa interests?
    Lucinda Lavender: remember someone saying that children could be reassured about bordom...it happens just before something new can be tried
    Lucinda Lavender: no did not know...:) really?
    Dash Earthboy: yah, I always told my son that if he's bored it's because he's boring
    Dash Earthboy: and he has over 800 Facebook friends now
    Lucinda Lavender: hmmm keeps one busy I notice
    Dash Earthboy: he still has the gall sometimes to write on his wall about being lonely or bored
    Dash Earthboy: poor guy is making as much in his first post-grad job as I made at my best job since we moved here
    Lucinda Lavender: well feeling separate...
    Dash Earthboy: his g/f is awesome and he spends very little time alone
    Lucinda Lavender: was going to say feeling separate can happen even when with others...
    Dash Earthboy: i spent the night with them a couple weeks ago before a job interview up their way about 70 miles from here
    Dash Earthboy: their apartment is actually more modest than the one I had at his age when I came to Atlanta for school & work
    Dash Earthboy: but they have 3G wifi and a 50" HD
    Dash Earthboy: I slept on the futon couch I let them have for half what it cost me
    Lucinda Lavender: hope you had a nice time...it is nice to get together and connect.
    Dash Earthboy: and her cats really were a pleasure to be around
    Dash Earthboy: for sure
    Lucinda Lavender: cats can be such fun...
    Lucinda Lavender: well I better go. I will post the log later today so continue
    Dash Earthboy: hers remind me of the cats my NYC g/f had who introduced me to Lincoln Center and the Met and all
    Lucinda Lavender: grandfather's cats?
    Lucinda Lavender: nice
    Dash Earthboy: okay, Luc farewell and have a good one
    Lucinda Lavender: remember the names?
    Dash Earthboy: g/f is girlfriend ;)
    Lucinda Lavender: oh:)
    Lucinda Lavender: sorry:)
    Lucinda Lavender: good to know:)
    Dash Earthboy: makes a little difference y'know :)
    Lucinda Lavender: right
    Lucinda Lavender: will head out now tho:) good day and weekend to all:)
    Dash Earthboy: best to you Luc
    Lucinda Lavender: thanks:)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: bye luci
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hi dash
    Dash Earthboy: lessee, Alf is away
    Lucinda Lavender: bye Yaku, boxy too>
    Dash Earthboy: oh, good you are there Yaku!
    Yakuzza Lethecus: thx, just had some dinner
    Dash Earthboy: care to tell?
    Dash Earthboy: i'm having some tea late morning here
    Yakuzza Lethecus: nah, some gulasch with spätzle and green salad
    Dash Earthboy: yummy!
    Dash Earthboy: i like all that
    Yakuzza Lethecus: yes, except i eat a pack of cashew core´s 30 minutes before and still have of the dish in the fridge now :)
    Dash Earthboy: closest place for any decent spatzle or gulasch is way up in the mtns of N GA
    Dash Earthboy: it's great you can eat cashews like that
    Yakuzza Lethecus: you have an disability concerning those ?
    Dash Earthboy: i have problems with nuts, even some like cashew butter
    Yakuzza Lethecus now has to think of wol´s tag, *may contain nuts*
    Dash Earthboy: i love peanut butter
    Yakuzza Lethecus: yes, me too
    Dash Earthboy: and I used to love cashews and almonds and their nut butters too
    Dash Earthboy: but started having trouble with regular pieces or whole nuts
    Yakuzza Lethecus: do you have some german ancestry ?
    Dash Earthboy: i miss my pistachios
    Dash Earthboy: yah
    Dash Earthboy: i come from swiss-german stock who mingled with Native Americans
    Dash Earthboy: settled in West VA and became farmers & miners
    Alfred Kelberry: nice mix :)
    Dash Earthboy: my maternal grandfather moved up into Ohio and pursued farming while also working at a steel mill
    Yakuzza Lethecus: VA = virginia ?
    Dash Earthboy: yep
    Yakuzza Lethecus: thx :)
    Alfred Kelberry: i like hazelnuts, btw
    Yakuzza Lethecus: we used to have a hazelnut tree
    Dash Earthboy: and my uncles moved to Pittsburgh and opened a big dry cleaning chain
    Dash Earthboy: my paternal uncles
    Yakuzza Lethecus: *well more like bush
    Dash Earthboy: the Cherokee mix is on my father's side
    Dash Earthboy: ah, I really enjoy hazelnut creamer in my coffee these days
    Alfred Kelberry: "hazelnut" dry cleaning - sounds good
    Dash Earthboy: sure would smell better than regular dry cleaning fluids!
    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    Dash Earthboy: my father worked at a dry cleaner in Ohio for awhile
    Dash Earthboy: but he didn't like to be inside so much
    Dash Earthboy: I don't either
    Dash Earthboy: did Lucinda retain the recording position?
    Alfred Kelberry: not sure
    Dash Earthboy: wow this day is flying by
    Yakuzza Lethecus: yes, she´s recieving the log
    Dash Earthboy: i'm trying to figure out how to overcome an obstacle...the mower donated to me in 2007 stopped working after 5 minutes on May 07 and I haven't been able to start it ssince
    Yakuzza Lethecus: we could turn the recording off if you wish
    Dash Earthboy: up to y'all Yaku
    Dash Earthboy: we could voice chat if you'd rather as well
    Yakuzza Lethecus: nah, just wanted to mention it
    Yakuzza Lethecus: at noon i have my voice session again btw
    Alfred Kelberry: dash, have you seen "the straight story"? :)
    Dash Earthboy: so on Sunday, I emptied out the gas & oil and cleaned the spark plug and air filter, replaced the oil and gas, and still can't get it started
    Yakuzza Lethecus: good that you mentioned voice, i have to change all my settings
    Dash Earthboy: no alf I haven't
    Alfred Kelberry: you could do what alvin did in the movie with his mower :)
    Dash Earthboy: really I'd rather have a goat
    Alfred Kelberry: yes, nice milk
    Dash Earthboy: save money on milk for sure
    Dash Earthboy: i got goat's milk in Nashville for my lactose-intolerant host
    Dash Earthboy: sometimes my grocery here puts it on special too
    Dash Earthboy: i like getting $4 goats milk for 79 cents!
    Dash Earthboy: but having my own goat would solve the lawn mowing problem as well ;)
    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    Dash Earthboy: and be much more environmentally friendly
    Yakuzza Lethecus: if there wouldn´t be all those tiny mines on the lawn then
    Dash Earthboy: remember I have neighbors who cut down healthy trees to run their off-roaders around illegally
    Dash Earthboy: the man brought his 18-wheeler flat bed into the culd-de-sac and parked it to block the outbound lane in front of his house all day Sunday
    Dash Earthboy: cops wouldn't do a thing about it
    Yakuzza Lethecus: here it´s forbidden too, ppl go up to fill acid to the core´s in order to make the tree´s valid for cutting, it´s so disgusting sometimes
    Dash Earthboy: Yaku the mines just help the flowers grow y'know?
    Dash Earthboy: or I could put it on the blackberry bushes I've allowed to remain...i cut many of them out years ago
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i don´t mind those either, still some ppl actually like to walk on the lawn or lie there in the sunshine, we ain´t use our lawn in that way
    Dash Earthboy: or rather, a rescuee did that cutting "to help" without letting me know
    Yakuzza Lethecus: actually my father used to have 4 pieces of cattle last year
    Alfred Kelberry: moos?
    Dash Earthboy: no i don't have a lay-around lawn either
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i am in germany :9
    Dash Earthboy: from your meal, I kinda gathered that
    Alfred Kelberry: cows are neat
    Dash Earthboy: no my 2+ acre lot is mostly tree-covered with sweet gums
    Yakuzza Lethecus: limosine blonde aquitaine mix
    Dash Earthboy: and sweet gums have those spiny pods they drop all over
    Yakuzza Lethecus: sounds fancy, wasn´t fancy at all :)
    Dash Earthboy: :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: those were on the fields around the ouse of course and not on the lawn :D
    Yakuzza Lethecus: haha
    Yakuzza Lethecus: http://www.flickr.com/photos/yakuzza...in/photostream
    Dash Earthboy: milk cows?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: http://www.flickr.com/photos/yakuzza...in/photostream
    Yakuzza Lethecus: those were the pieces of cattle
    Yakuzza Lethecus: well only 2 of em
    Dash Earthboy: ah yes!
    Yakuzza Lethecus: no cows, female yes, but without baby´s
    Dash Earthboy: nice pic!
    Dash Earthboy: reminds me a little of my farm in Tennessee
    Dash Earthboy: neighbors had 1-2 cows I helped them take care of when they were away from home
    Dash Earthboy: i helped the neighbors with horses, cows and chickens...only had dogs myself
    Yakuzza Lethecus: well, it´s neat when they ascape and you have to get em back :)
    Dash Earthboy: yep
    Dash Earthboy: happened alot with the horses
    Dash Earthboy: and remember, I was the only guy in the 'hood with a computer in his house
    Dash Earthboy: some of my neighbors still had party lines
    Yakuzza Lethecus: party lines ?
    Dash Earthboy: i started out with a party line but they didn't like me tying it up with modem fo be on Compuserve
    Yakuzza Lethecus: *reading wiki article of party lines
    Dash Earthboy: party lines were actually shared addresses on the phone line where each of our numbers had its own distinctive ring
    Dash Earthboy: but we'd get the rings for their callers and they'd get ours
    Dash Earthboy: and only one of us could use the line at a time (like a neighborhood street in some ways)
    Dash Earthboy: kinda like my neighbor blocking the outbound lane with his truck
    Dash Earthboy: of course, the parties who shared party lines were not necessarily side-by-side
    Yakuzza Lethecus: right now i am glad to have at least a 3g connection with around 3-5 mbit´s considering when i started 33,6 modem´s where brand new, i never experiences 9,6 or worse telefoncoupling
    Dash Earthboy: I hear ya...my modem at the farm was 150 baud....period
    Dash Earthboy: my son has the 3G wifi at his place...blew me away considering I'm on 500kps now
    Dash Earthboy: between that and my Intel graphics, Second Life doesn't really like me
    Dash Earthboy: it does seem to perform better on Linux than on Windows tho
    Dash Earthboy: different drivers
    Yakuzza Lethecus: exactly i have or had a very slow dsl line
    Yakuzza Lethecus: about the same as yours
    Dash Earthboy: i'm on 64-bit Ubuntu 11 now
    Yakuzza Lethecus: yes, without a proper graphics card it´s a problem
    Dash Earthboy: yah
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i have only integrated on the laptop
    Yakuzza Lethecus: so sl crashes a lot for me there
    Dash Earthboy: I hear ya
    Dash Earthboy: that's what mine is
    Yakuzza Lethecus: practice patience :)
    Dash Earthboy: for sure
    Dash Earthboy: funny, SL doesn't work well on the 64-bit SUSE i have on this laptop
    Dash Earthboy: not as well as on its 32-bit Vista
    Dash Earthboy: but this Ubuntu is the best
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i have to give it a try
    Yakuzza Lethecus: everyone talks about it, i only know that it´s south african and debian based
    Yakuzza Lethecus: never given a try
    Dash Earthboy: yah
    Dash Earthboy: I have each as main OS's to work in different development environments
    Dash Earthboy: SUSE is for my IBM (Informix & DB2) projects
    Dash Earthboy: Vista is for my SQL Server and Vis Studio projects
    Dash Earthboy: and Ubuntu is for my Oracle and MySQL projects
    Dash Earthboy: I also use Vista and Ubuntu as virtual machine servers
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i use vista here
    Yakuzza Lethecus: everyone complained about it from start
    Dash Earthboy: yep
    Yakuzza Lethecus: but it still runs
    Yakuzza Lethecus: never had issues with it
    Dash Earthboy: my main issue was the way HP packaged it with the laptop
    Yakuzza Lethecus: what kind of soundcard do you use :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: haha :)
    Alfred Kelberry: you're a dba dash?
    Dash Earthboy: consultant
    Dash Earthboy: dba, programmer, analyst...jack of all, master of none
    Dash Earthboy: like the music instruments I play
    Dash Earthboy: i'm kinda a "utility" player...if you know the baseball analogy
    Yakuzza Lethecus: also reminds me of storm
    Dash Earthboy: and self-taught on almost everything
    Dash Earthboy: COBOL, BASIC, SQL, C++, Delphi, F#, etc
    Dash Earthboy: when I consulted at AT&T -- brought in to train their people on Wordstar 2000, I programmed some Informix apps for them
    Yakuzza Lethecus: ah, i am a bit jealous on you guys for being able to code
    Yakuzza Lethecus: have to check for F# tho
    Dash Earthboy: first time ever on unix let alone playing with Informix
    Dash Earthboy: so AT&T rewarded me by sending me to a training center and getting certified as an Informix developer
    Dash Earthboy: nice bonus huh?
    Dash Earthboy: I think that kind of recognition is what attracted my ex to me
    Dash Earthboy: she was a low level mgr then
    Dash Earthboy: I trained her people in Wordstar 2000
    Dash Earthboy: an upper mgr then had me, after seeing the Informix apps, develop contract management software for them, using Informix and Enable for interfacing
    Dash Earthboy: I was allowed to choose the networkable interface and at the time Windows 286/386 just wasn't worth it
    Dash Earthboy: even then I chose DR-DOS and Concurrent DOS over MS DOS
    Dash Earthboy: but Microsoft knows how to market
    Yakuzza Lethecus: oh, yes
    Dash Earthboy: they make the best second-class software in the world
    Yakuzza Lethecus: and how to buy new companys
    Dash Earthboy: yep
    Dash Earthboy: that's how they got Access
    Dash Earthboy: and MS Money
    Yakuzza Lethecus: like apple too, all prosperous technology got bought
    Dash Earthboy: i'm not sales-oriented in my work...I'm service-oriented
    Dash Earthboy: I look for what works best, not what looks best
    Dash Earthboy: but I thought Informix was going to defeat Oracle in market share back in the late 80s...what do I know about popularity huh?
    Dash Earthboy: now IBM owns Informix
    Dash Earthboy: And Lotus
    Dash Earthboy: IBM is like the Ford of technology
    Yakuzza Lethecus memory´s of referrential integrety are passing my mind
    Dash Earthboy: integrity?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: right :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: ah, boxy is gone
    Dash Earthboy: ooops, alf???
    Dash Earthboy: without a word?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: that´s sad, i am not good in talking about technologie when it goes in depth
    Dash Earthboy: np
    Yakuzza Lethecus: guess he just lost the connection
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i know the words
    Dash Earthboy: that's cool
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i can cathegorize most you said
    Yakuzza Lethecus: but i have issues when it goes to application of those, i actually have pretty bad memory´s
    Dash Earthboy: good enough for jazz huh?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: nah, i still would like to improve my logic and computerscience sills
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i used to be on a computerscience highschool and in the and and big issues in mathematics and programming as well
    Yakuzza Lethecus: well, i was always interested and it´s my main nemisis
    Dash Earthboy: well, back in 1967 my math teacher (i was taking 11th grade math in 10th grade) allowed her star pupils to take a break from studies
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i am a metalworker now
    Dash Earthboy: metalwork is a fine trade!
    Dash Earthboy: anyhow, the math teacher introduced 10 of us to a game called WFF N PROOF
    Dash Earthboy: it was supposed to raise IQ (non-verbal)
    Dash Earthboy: and it emphasized cultivating logic
    Yakuzza Lethecus: *googling
    Dash Earthboy: it is still out there
    Yakuzza Lethecus: http://wffnproof.com/
    Yakuzza Lethecus: oh yes
    Dash Earthboy: one makes WFFs (well-formed formulas) out of letters on dice one roles to establish a pool of options
    Dash Earthboy: and you can time the game too
    Dash Earthboy: like chess
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i still struggle on logic and alike, i wonder how to jsut dissassociate the patterns that create some fear and confusion in me
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i used to have the concept when i was a teenager that i would be programming later, but i was never good in logic and structured
    Dash Earthboy: as I suffer from anxiety and depression, I'd recommend playing chess or similar strategic games to help overcome the fear and confusion
    Dash Earthboy: it helps you see logic and goals as being steps
    Dash Earthboy: not big bang stuff
    Yakuzza Lethecus: issues are how to structure and focus
    Dash Earthboy: yes
    Yakuzza Lethecus: yesterday i had one of my classic experiences on logic
    Dash Earthboy: so in chess one learns to dwell on each move as a step with ever-increasing result options
    Dash Earthboy: hey Malinson
    Malinson Bloobury: hello
    Malinson Bloobury: may I sit before your fountain?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: of course
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hello
    Yakuzza Lethecus: everything here is going to get recorded
    Dash Earthboy: be sure to crank up your ambient sound volume Malinson
    Dash Earthboy: the fountain sounds very soothing
    Malinson Bloobury: I do not have that enabled at the moment
    Dash Earthboy: i figured
    Dash Earthboy: i do the same thing
    Malinson Bloobury: How did you figure?
    Dash Earthboy: many I meet with such manners have disabled ambient and gesture sounds because of all the noise in SL
    Dash Earthboy: so as not to be annoyed or distracted
    Malinson Bloobury: I see.
    Dash Earthboy: on my! I just realized it's noon where I am!
    Dash Earthboy: this day is getting away from me without me making any progress
    Yakuzza Lethecus: yes, time is passing bye
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i am also here for 3 hrs by now
    Dash Earthboy: I better hush and head on out
    Yakuzza Lethecus: actually starting from the time session
    Dash Earthboy: yah, Yaku you were here even before session weren't you?
    Dash Earthboy: I came from a morning meditation group
    Yakuzza Lethecus: yes
    Dash Earthboy: anywho, I best be off and grab some lunch and...
    Dash Earthboy: gtsy Malinson and Yaku, a pleasure as always :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: take care dash
    Malinson Bloobury: Good day to you.
    Dash Earthboy: peace and good wishes!
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i also have to go malinson, we meet again here at noon
    Yakuzza Lethecus: for my voice session
    Malinson Bloobury: Fairwell Yakuzza
    Yakuzza Lethecus: the next meeting after that will be my guardianslot at 1pm slt
    Yakuzza Lethecus: take care
    Yakuzza Lethecus: sry ccan´t stay longer

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