2011.05.25 13:00 - Mind Like a Steel Trap - and Black Radishes

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    The Original Guardian for this meeting was Fefonz Quan. The Actual Guardian for this meeting was Aphrodite Macbain - and Fefonz is grateful for het stepping in for replacement in such short notice :). The posting and comments are by Fefonz Quan.

     

    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Aphrodite :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hi There!
    Aphrodite Macbain: You look very different
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I do?
    Qt Core: Hi all
    Aphrodite Macbain: no longer kttenish!
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Qt
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Qt
    SophiaSharon Larnia: kittenish?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hmm :D
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Zon
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I have been home off and on, do not stay there all of thetime, and am on a different computer at times. The one Im on now has poor graphics so I dont know what my avatar looks like atm
    Zon Kwan: hello
    Qt Core: Hi Zon
    Aphrodite Macbain: brown hair, blue top, black pants
    SophiaSharon Larnia: thx :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: looks great
    Aphrodite Macbain: where are you?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: aww as does yours :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: staying with a friend
    Aphrodite Macbain: tx
    Aphrodite Macbain: nice. Old friend?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes
    Aphrodite Macbain: they're the best!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes, old freinds know your secrets like no one else
    Aphrodite Macbain: and can forgive them!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: heh
    Aphrodite Macbain: are you building wonderful things Sophia?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i havent been logging into sl for anything other than pab for a while now
    Aphrodite Macbain: me neither
    Aphrodite Macbain: I'm a little stuck
    SophiaSharon Larnia: stuck?
    Aphrodite Macbain: in my habits
    Aphrodite Macbain: I'm no longer explprijg SL the way I used to when I first began
    Aphrodite Macbain: *exploring
    SophiaSharon Larnia: thats natural isnt it
    Aphrodite Macbain: I don't know- I guess it is.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ebbs and flows, you'll have a next big project and be in here all the time!
    Aphrodite Macbain: Qt, Zen do you get involved in other SL sims?
    Zon Kwan: yes
    Zon Kwan: now im going to dance
    Zon Kwan: se ya
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :) have fun Zon
    Qt Core: only with a cuople friend to chat
    Aphrodite Macbain: where Zon?
    Qt Core: bye Zon have fun
    Aphrodite Macbain: you look great
    Zon Kwan: dont know
    Zon Kwan: someone else chooses
    SophiaSharon Larnia: smiles
    Aphrodite Macbain: ah- lucky you!
    Zon Kwan: yes i am
    Qt Core: no shoes, Zon (or just lag)
    Zon Kwan: ty
    Qt Core: ?
    Zon Kwan: must fix that
    Aphrodite Macbain: hehe
    Aphrodite Macbain: watch out for slivers
    SophiaSharon Larnia: haha
    Zon Kwan: ther..waves
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ~~go with the flow~~ even is the flow seems like a still pond
    SophiaSharon Larnia: even if*
    Aphrodite Macbain smiles
    SophiaSharon Larnia: id do well to heed my own statement
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ;p
    --BELL--
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi invisible Wol :)
    Qt Core: hi clkoudy Wol
    Wol Euler: hello qt, sharon, aph
    Wol Euler: rebaking
    Wol Euler: but have been laggy all evening
    Aphrodite Macbain: perhaps you need more sleep
    Wol Euler: heheheh
    Wol Euler: that is definitely true
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Aphrodite Macbain smiles
    Aphrodite Macbain: too much work? too much play?
    Wol Euler: rather too much play, though hay fever is involv ed
    Qt Core: too many bytes
    Aphrodite Macbain: make hay while the sunshines but bring along the antihistamine
    Wol Euler: also I skipped breakfast this morning, unintentionally, and that really messed up my day, been confused and perma-hungry ever sinde
    Wol Euler: *since
    Aphrodite Macbain: perhaps a cheese sandwich?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: so thats what causes confusion and permahunger
    Wol Euler: well, I had a largeish lunch and a reasonably good dinner
    Wol Euler: now tea and biscuits
    Wol Euler: but still ... somehow ...
    Aphrodite Macbain chomps down on her ham sandwich
    Aphrodite Macbain thinks about how one's view off life is dependent on whether one is well fed or not
    Wol Euler: indeed!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yep
    Qt Core: so your av is only making your phisical confusion explicit Wol
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Wol Euler: and rebakes once more
    Aphrodite Macbain: put on sun tan lotion
    Qt Core: i can (and quite often do) lack in sleep hours and i can still be civil enough to be called human, make me miss food and i lose it all
    Aphrodite Macbain: so, what's new with anyone?
    Wol Euler: may is nearly over, how did that happen?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :) Qt. I often forget to eat until im aboput to faint, bad habit.
    Aphrodite Macbain: not sure - it feels like winter here
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :) wol
    Aphrodite Macbain: Qt- that IS a bad habit. Are you hyogrycemic?
    Wol Euler: hello eliza
    Aphrodite Macbain: hypoglycemic
    Qt Core: about 30C here and 31 at the office, AC can't be used yet (don't know why)... and productivity soars
    SophiaSharon Larnia: HI Eliza
    Qt Core: almost the opposite, just food addicted ;-)
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Aph, Sharon, Qt, Wol :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: I'd be useless at that temperature
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hiya Eliza!
    Qt Core: hi Eliza
    Qt Core: are you leaking awesomeness, Eliza ?
    Eliza Madrigal: haaha
    Wol Euler: heheheh
    SophiaSharon Larnia: laughs
    Aphrodite Macbain: her energy is boundless
    Wol Euler: woooooo
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i have those wings too but they dont usually work when you are standing or sitting, just flying
    Eliza Madrigal: am having quite a day actually so it does feel like I'm leaking things, dropping things through gaps
    SophiaSharon Larnia: aww
    Aphrodite Macbain: there are days like that
    Wol Euler: :(
    Eliza Madrigal: :) well, silly things, nothing too big but it does form a kind of pattern =/
    Wol Euler nods.
    Aphrodite Macbain: I've been feeling very productive today. Have cleaned my fridge and thrown out a lot of strange looking biology experiments
    Eliza Madrigal: just burnt these wonderful carrots I bought at a farmer's market, for instance, after preparing them just so
    Wol Euler: :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: haha Aph
    Wol Euler: do you make house calls?
    Eliza Madrigal: yeah, right!
    Aphrodite Macbain: their expiry date was before 2000!
    Wol Euler: O.O
    Eliza Madrigal: @@
    Aphrodite Macbain: hehe.
    Wol Euler: and I thought I was bad, pouring away a half-bottle of sesame oil from 2002
    Aphrodite Macbain: I hate throwing things away - I feel guilty about waste
    Qt Core: and hadn't evolved feet yet ?
    Wol Euler: :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: so it just sits there until it gets scary
    Eliza Madrigal smiles
    Aphrodite Macbain smiles at Qt. --and hands
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh, and I was so tickled to have bought black radishes, and was excited to put them in salad, but they were *horrible* tasting...
    Wol Euler: hmmmm
    Eliza Madrigal: now what do I do with those?!
    Aphrodite Macbain: really? what did they taste like? Black?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ohh Eliza lol
    Eliza Madrigal: spicy.. kids will not touch them
    Eliza Madrigal: yes I thought they were beautiful
    Aphrodite Macbain: spicy as in hot?
    Eliza Madrigal: but ack, terrible
    Eliza Madrigal: yes
    Qt Core: use them as kis repellant for places they should not be
    Wol Euler: huh
    Eliza Madrigal: but I like spicy food, so thought it would be ok
    Qt Core: kid
    Aphrodite Macbain: good for you for experimenting
    Eliza Madrigal: Well but now I'm going to be wasteful
    Aphrodite Macbain: now you are an expert of black radishes
    Eliza Madrigal: hahah Qt
    Aphrodite Macbain: *on
    --BELL--
    Aphrodite Macbain: Eliza- did yu go to Sun's music workshop this a.m.?
    Eliza Madrigal: We walked over to Bleu's house actually
    Aphrodite Macbain: and made music there?
    Eliza Madrigal: There are picures at the bottom of my session, since music follows
    Eliza Madrigal: well, sort of... music session turns into any number of things :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: those are really nice pictures Eliza :))
    Eliza Madrigal: So Sun did play sitar for a while
    Aphrodite Macbain: I'll check them out. You are good at posting things quickly
    Eliza Madrigal: (flipped sentences)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)) It was fun
    Eliza Madrigal: and Bleu's place is so beautiful, interesting
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: Yes, I like her artwork
    Eliza Madrigal: I try to post fast, because otherwise I may forget :)
    Eliza Madrigal: or lose the vibe, heh
    Aphrodite Macbain nods
    Aphrodite Macbain: I know what you mean
    Aphrodite Macbain: Has any one had any experience with Non-Violent communication?
    Eliza Madrigal: Hmmm
    Eliza Madrigal: in what context?
    Qt Core: ?
    Aphrodite Macbain: I've been listening to lectures on the subject
    SophiaSharon Larnia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonviolent_Communication
    Aphrodite Macbain: It's a way of communicating that assists people in coming to an agreement
    SophiaSharon Larnia: no and i hadnt heard ot it
    Wol Euler: I'd heard of it but not more than that
    Aphrodite Macbain: negotiators, coprporations and um couples benefit from it
    Eliza Madrigal: oh, so non-coercive?
    Wol Euler: a couple I know started with it, as a way of dealing with their problems, but AFAIK didn'T stay the course
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes. for instance, using "I" rather than you.
    Aphrodite Macbain: e.g. I feel very frustrated when you do X" rathr than you make me feel frustrated
    Eliza Madrigal: yes, it may have the same issues that other types of tools have, that it takes two :)
    Wol Euler: or even "you suck"
    Aphrodite Macbain: thinking about the other person's needs, speaking from the heart rather than the head
    SophiaSharon Larnia: many of the prinicples that im reading sound very familiar, taught the methods but I didnt know the phrase :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: he he Wol
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes, as much as you may want to
    SophiaSharon Larnia: speaking from the heart rather than the head?
    Eliza Madrigal: deactivating defensiveness...
    Aphrodite Macbain: It's hard to unlearn old ways of talking but I think it might become vry useful to me
    Wol Euler nods.
    Wol Euler: I'm certain that it is
    Wol Euler: it's similar to how we speak here :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: I'm attending a session tonight wth a group that "practises" NVC
    Aphrodite Macbain: Yes Eliza, I find great similarity
    Eliza Madrigal: how interesting, please let us know how it goes
    Aphrodite Macbain: I will
    Qt Core: (i find it a little too "sugary")
    Aphrodite Macbain: http://www.cnvc.org/ Here's the web site
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :) qt
    Eliza Madrigal: (that was Wol) :) one thing I notiice is that if one doesn't expect to come to a conclusion (deem a winner) a conversation can continue
    Aphrodite Macbain: It's not for anyone Qt
    Aphrodite Macbain: I mean to say "everyone"
    SophiaSharon Larnia: nods
    Wol Euler nods.
    Qt Core: agree, Aphro
    Aphrodite Macbain: I'm in a relationship right now where this kind of communicaton would work well
    Eliza Madrigal: it does sounds like something they do in some schools now...
    Eliza Madrigal: but I think I'm thrown by the term non-violent
    Aphrodite Macbain: Yes? Which schools?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: validation of a persons feelings and active listening could be helpful all of the time
    Aphrodite Macbain: one can do violence in just speaking unkindly
    Eliza Madrigal: that would be more 'constructive dialog' which some schools have peers conduct for conflict solving
    Eliza Madrigal: yes
    Aphrodite Macbain: it is a form of violence- shutting people dow, labelling them.
    Aphrodite Macbain: *down
    Wol Euler: I find it fitting, actually; there is violence in the style of discourse that certain philosophers practice (coughs)
    Eliza Madrigal: agree, but subtle
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hmm
    Aphrodite Macbain: can you say more Eliza?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: aagree Wol
    Aphrodite Macbain: I mean Wol
    Eliza Madrigal: :) yes agree
    Aphrodite Macbain: can you give an example?
    Wol Euler: I experienced that quite definitely a few days ago. I'd rather not give an example for the log :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: kk
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Wol Euler: but if the GoC will promise to take it out, I'll tell you that it was xxx-xxxx-xxx (taken out by GoC upon requenst)
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    Wol Euler: something I didn't want in the log
    Aphrodite Macbain: Non Violent Communcation helps us deal with people like that
    Eliza Madrigal: I have to drive to take my son to tae kwon do, and then try to make it back to check to see if cafh is going on
    Wol Euler: ty :)
    Alfred Kelberry: ah...
    Alfred Kelberry: too bad
    Aphrodite Macbain: It's easy to deal with people who are generous and open
    Alfred Kelberry: sometimes you have to punch people :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: the closed minded are the tough ones
    Eliza Madrigal: eliza will stay here so she doesn't have to re-rezz
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: bfn
    Aphrodite Macbain: no punching allowed- just touching
    Alfred Kelberry: mmm, yes... gentle touch :)
    Wol Euler: especially if they think their closed-mindedness is a sign of the quality of their thought
    Aphrodite Macbain: ha ha
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i can see a flip side to that, a very intelligent person enganging in violent-type communication, seeing that the other person is attempting non-violent communication techniques, and then feeling they are being manipulated. what then?
    Aphrodite Macbain: ...mind like a steel trap
    Wol Euler: exactly
    Aphrodite Macbain: Maybe I'll be able to answer that next week Sophia! :-P
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :) please
    Aphrodite Macbain: A lot of it is about not getting hooked and irritated by the other
    Wol Euler: indeed
    Wol Euler nods.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes
    SophiaSharon Larnia: very good point
    Alfred Kelberry: drama
    Aphrodite Macbain: so the response is not reactive
    Qt Core: (that often irritate even more the violent one)
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes, true Qt. It is easy to sound smug
    Alfred Kelberry: i find that focusing on finding a solution helps
    Aphrodite Macbain: I hate it when the other person is calm and I'm angry!
    Qt Core: (i'll end up like that many times especially when sparring with internet trolls) ;-)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i know what you mean Aph
    Wol Euler: "I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it. " G.B. Shaw
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hahahha
    Alfred Kelberry: aph :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes boxy - ultimately that's exactly it. and the solution is often to identify and acknowledge the other person's needs
    Wol Euler: applies well to trolls
    Aphrodite Macbain looks around for trolls
    Wol Euler points back 2 minutes at qt's line
    Qt Core: that's why i sit on the fence throw little stones at them ;-)
    Wol Euler grins at the delightful convenience of chat history
    Aphrodite Macbain: hehe
    Wol Euler: if only RL had that ...
    SophiaSharon Larnia: and google search
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes Wol. What a great way to win an argument or make your point!
    Wol Euler: or to prove that what you did was not a random non-sequitur: "but that is exactly what you asked for two days ago!"
    Wol Euler: if I had a dollar for every time I've said that ...
    Aphrodite Macbain: he he
    SophiaSharon Larnia: thats how threedee shephard convinced me to say ok with logging, long ago
    Aphrodite Macbain: theedee shephard?
    Alfred Kelberry: *frowns at the logger*
    SophiaSharon Larnia: was a guardian
    Aphrodite Macbain: Darn logger. Bet s/he stirs hi/her coffee with hi/her thumb
    SophiaSharon Larnia: lol
    Alfred Kelberry: aph, a wonderful lion av that liked to lay by the fire at the kira cafe
    Wol Euler nods.
    Aphrodite Macbain: a wise lion
    Alfred Kelberry: yes, didn't eat me
    Aphrodite Macbain: wonder where he/she is now
    SophiaSharon Larnia: boxes are too crunchy, not meaty enouhg
    Alfred Kelberry: last i heard he was involved in an opensim project
    Wol Euler nods.
    Alfred Kelberry: sophia, i had a different av back then :)
    Wol Euler: doing a lot of building work in opensims, I hear
    SophiaSharon Larnia: haha
    Alfred Kelberry: quite eatable :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: who were you back then boxy?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: chomp
    Wol Euler: a carrier of radioactive tulips
    Wol Euler: (he was)
    Eliza Madrigal: (back)
    Alfred Kelberry: um... sorry, i'll skip that, aph :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: wow :)
    Wol Euler: wb
    Aphrodite Macbain thinks about box cutters
    Wol Euler wincdes
    Wol Euler: *winces
    --BELL--
    Eliza Madrigal: ty... reading back...
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i didnt know the tulips were radioactive
    Aphrodite Macbain: violent communication sorry!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: eek
    Alfred Kelberry: wuff!
    Aphrodite Macbain: Must go grocery shopping now - I'll avoid the balck radishes
    Wol Euler: bye aph, take care
    Aphrodite Macbain: *black
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bye
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bye!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Aphrodite :)
    Qt Core: bye Aphrodite
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye Aph (and I'd like to see if cafh is happening)
    Wol Euler: bye eliza, take care
    Qt Core: wow, went by pretty fast this hour!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: have fun :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: am off too, take care all :)
    Qt Core: bye Sophia
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Qt Core: all in all all the day went pretty fast (bar the early afternoon trying to work at 30.5C
    Wol Euler: yeah, that's too hot
    Wol Euler: presumably there is a rule that hte AC is not needed before June 17th
    Wol Euler: or something like that
    Qt Core: (i hope it is June 1st around here or at least that was tv said about milan may tribunal having temp problems too last week
    Qt Core: may=main
    Alfred Kelberry: 30c...
    Alfred Kelberry: tough
    Wol Euler: people lose sight of the objective. Turning it on would cost 37 euros (whatever, doesn'T matter)
    Wol Euler: so they keep it off and waste the efforts of a hundred people for N hours
    Wol Euler: which costs easily a thousand times that
    Qt Core: but then we are green
    Wol Euler: heh
    Qt Core: ;-)
    Wol Euler: wasteful but green :)
    Wol Euler: wb eliza, no cafh?
    Eliza Madrigal: doesn't seem so
    Eliza Madrigal: just an 'afk' calvino there
    Eliza Madrigal: bummer...
    Alfred Kelberry: eliza is back :)
    Alfred Kelberry: ah, cafh was probably put on hold
    Eliza Madrigal: yes, I guess it had gone on two weeks and no one attended
    Eliza Madrigal: but I don't remember getting a notice during the week, maybe just too scattered
    Eliza Madrigal: (another thing through the gap today)
    Alfred Kelberry: i was on the first meeting. there were like 4-5 people.
    Eliza Madrigal: were there? Hm
    Alfred Kelberry: next week only 1 showed up
    Alfred Kelberry: yes, it hasn't been marketed much (if at all)
    Eliza Madrigal: don't know if I would have been able to attend regularly
    Eliza Madrigal: but I rememer enjoying it last time for a few weeks
    Qt Core: i'm having a forget it all moment, what is cafh ?
    Alfred Kelberry: cafh.kira.org
    Qt Core: ty
    Eliza Madrigal: Vector Marksman conducted the group for a while
    --BELL--
    Qt Core: it seem not too distant from pab
    Eliza Madrigal: yes... and Vector has a nice way of leading through meditations / explorations too
    Eliza Madrigal: in voice
    Qt Core: the official page has even an italian page... weird, i'm now used to english for certain topics and openess levels ;-)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: you are abundant with great phrases today Qt
    Eliza Madrigal: 'openness levels'
    Eliza Madrigal: :D
    Qt Core: :)
    Alfred Kelberry: wly is a cloud...
    Eliza Madrigal: yes, alas
    Wol Euler: now you say so, after over an hour?
    Alfred Kelberry: um...
    Eliza Madrigal: thought you knew....
    Eliza Madrigal: have seemed more so lately
    Alfred Kelberry: you've been busy :)
    Wol Euler has rebaked a dozen times now
    Eliza Madrigal: :(
    Eliza Madrigal: Is it Phoenix?
    Qt Core: yes, still cloudy, wol
    Alfred Kelberry: zoom-in doesn't help
    Eliza Madrigal: I had to upgrade to fix my continual cloudness
    Eliza Madrigal: and undoing
    Alfred Kelberry: eh... now we can't see what new fancy outfit woly has put on today
    Qt Core: my v2 just downloaded a new release... just to add voice to the "basic" mode
    Wol Euler: such a pity, because it was very fancy :)
    Wol Euler: and new
    Alfred Kelberry: *pouts*
    Eliza Madrigal: aw
    Eliza Madrigal: :(
    Eliza Madrigal: well you can describe it...
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Alfred Kelberry: mmm, yes, indeed :)
    Eliza Madrigal: we'll take an imaginative journey and when we see you next can compare
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Qt Core: sometimes i would lile a cloud outfit
    Qt Core: (just find so boring to search for it)
    Eliza Madrigal: I think Winnie the Pooh dressed up like a cloud once
    Eliza Madrigal: to get to honey
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: carried by balloon... or maybe he was a bee
    Alfred Kelberry: a cloud
    Wol Euler: any better?
    Alfred Kelberry: or so he thoguht
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Alfred Kelberry: nope
    Wol Euler gives up.
    Eliza Madrigal: aw, no
    Eliza Madrigal: pouts too
    Alfred Kelberry: i'm sure it's sexy
    Wol Euler: it is!
    Alfred Kelberry: and we can't see it...
    Wol Euler: heheheh
    Wol Euler: well,I could take a photo for you ...
    Alfred Kelberry: yay! :)
    Eliza Madrigal: that would work!
    Qt Core: noafter the initial shopping frenziness i almost feel glad i can not-shopping in sl while in rl sometimes i still have to ;-)
    Alfred Kelberry: yes, please
    Alfred Kelberry: don't be shy, woly :)
    Eliza Madrigal: I'd never used the marketplace to shop in SL before last week
    Eliza Madrigal: that was a revelation
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Alfred Kelberry: mmm... cutie :)
    Wol Euler: :)
    Alfred Kelberry: thank you, woly :)
    Wol Euler: yw
    Qt Core: nice
    Eliza Madrigal: not cloudy indeed
    Wol Euler: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: I love love that jacket...
    Wol Euler: demonstrating subjectivity, or some such
    Eliza Madrigal: or shirt... actually bit sheer... shirt
    Wol Euler: thanks! it's from LeeZu and not even too expensive, 300 or so I think
    Eliza Madrigal: beautiful, oh, thanks Alf....
    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    Wol Euler: erm, stretch that to square please :)
    Eliza Madrigal: now we can see you Wol :)
    Wol Euler: I hate being htat skinny
    Alfred Kelberry: why square?
    Wol Euler: because the original is square
    Wol Euler: it's distorted
    Alfred Kelberry: well, it's a portrait :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Wol Euler snorts
    Alfred Kelberry: good? :)
    Wol Euler: square
    Wol Euler: a == a
    Alfred Kelberry: i think it looks great
    Wol Euler: okay, whatever:)
    Alfred Kelberry: eliza, qt?
    Eliza Madrigal: yes, looks nice... but you may be particular if you were stretched Boxy
    Qt Core: from my pov it is even aligned with the background, nice effect
    Eliza Madrigal: what if we made you *not* a tiny? hehe
    Wol Euler: heheheh
    --BELL--
    Eliza Madrigal: SL playdough
    Eliza Madrigal: silly putty rather
    Wol Euler: huh, I hadn'T noticed the mistake :) I knew what you meant and read it as you thought it
    Eliza Madrigal: :)) yes, one remembers making the newspaper image and then distorting i
    Alfred Kelberry: woly girl :)
    Eliza Madrigal: *it
    Wol Euler: right :)
    Alfred Kelberry: hmm?
    Eliza Madrigal: back in the days of newspapers...
    Eliza Madrigal: heheh
    Wol Euler: kids probably can'T do that today, infringement of intellectual property rights
    Eliza Madrigal: didn't you do that Alf?
    Eliza Madrigal: hahah Wol
    Alfred Kelberry: do what? distort newspaper images? :)
    Eliza Madrigal: silly putty contraband
    Wol Euler: there was this stuff called silly putty, possibly still is, that was a gooey stretchjy substance
    Eliza Madrigal: subversive substance
    Wol Euler: which had the ability to pick up ink from paper
    Eliza Madrigal: and bounce!
    Alfred Kelberry: um...
    Wol Euler: so you could roll it over a newpaper photo and come up with a reverse image on the stuff
    Wol Euler: which you could then stretch ...
    Alfred Kelberry: oh
    Alfred Kelberry: neat
    Alfred Kelberry: like a science project :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :) yes
    Wol Euler: yeah, but fun
    Qt Core: yes is still around, you can find a lot of it in one of my fav website, thinkgeek.com
    Wol Euler: ah :)
    Alfred Kelberry: shameless plug :)
    Qt Core: multiple colors,, magnetic or even color changing
    Eliza Madrigal: great name
    Eliza Madrigal: magnetic?
    Eliza Madrigal: oooo
    Wol Euler: magnetic silly putty?
    Alfred Kelberry: qt, how many precious dollars have you spent on this site? :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Qt Core: i know the site since many years, made my first purchase two weeks ago ;-)
    Alfred Kelberry: haha
    Qt Core: (but no silly putty)
    Alfred Kelberry: master of patience :)
    Wol Euler: http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/warfare/
    Eliza Madrigal: ewww that site has something called 'canned unicorn meat'
    Wol Euler laughs.
    Qt Core: there is even baked spiders if i remember it right
    Eliza Madrigal: oh man, and actual marshmallow guns
    Wol Euler: http://petsorfood.com/
    Eliza Madrigal: whenever I flip back and forth from the browser there is Wol, and I begin to say "Bye" because you're standing up in the picture, haha
    Wol Euler: I fear this is turning into a friday
    Wol Euler: heheheh
    Alfred Kelberry: we should make a gift for sharon :) http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts-apparel/womens/e6eb/
    Alfred Kelberry: eliza! :)
    Wol Euler: :)
    Wol Euler: nice
    Qt Core: may i be cynic... if we get the fur or the skin of an animal at least we should eat it too, just to lessen the damage
    Wol Euler: oh, this is my favourite! http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts-apparel/womens/d415/
    Eliza Madrigal: the last two are still loading for me
    Wol Euler laughs.
    Eliza Madrigal: hahah, cute
    Eliza Madrigal: (or consider not gathering it for fur, qt, but in general I agree... have any idea how not to waste spicy radishes?)
    Wol Euler: slug bait?
    Qt Core: ;-)
    Eliza Madrigal: heeh
    Eliza Madrigal: because I need slugs?
    Qt Core: for obvious reason this is one of my fav: http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts-apparel/glennz/bc93/
    Eliza Madrigal: ten I'd have to figure out how not to waste the slugs...
    Eliza Madrigal: :)) Qt
    Wol Euler: heheheheh
    Wol Euler: as long as you don'T wear this one, qt: http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts-app...pculture/9722/
    Eliza Madrigal giggles
    Qt Core: ;-) dangerous workshirt that one is
    Wol Euler: http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts-app...ure/c339/#tabs
    Alfred Kelberry: i like standing woly poster
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Eliza Madrigal: :) Wol the poster girl
    Alfred Kelberry: she's watching us
    --BELL--
    Alfred Kelberry: like a big sister :)
    Qt Core: nice pink clouds too
    Wol Euler: I had the world set to "sunset" when I took it
    Alfred Kelberry: yes, good choice
    Qt Core: this between the many IT/math/science tshirt is nice too: http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts-app...partment/b2ae/
    Eliza Madrigal: :) ok..... peels self off cushion....
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Wol Euler: I should go too, almost midnight
    Wol Euler: goodnight eliza, take care
    Qt Core: same here, time and need to go
    Eliza Madrigal: Night Wol :) thanks u2
    Alfred Kelberry: ah
    Eliza Madrigal: Night Qt, Night Boxy :)
    Alfred Kelberry: auf
    Alfred Kelberry: i
    Qt Core: night all and have fun or sleep well
    Wol Euler: bye qt, bye boxy, be good
    Alfred Kelberry: do you think i should leave the poster woly? :)
    Wol Euler: no
    Alfred Kelberry: hehe
    Wol Euler: please tidy up :)
    Alfred Kelberry: i think it should be permanent
    Wol Euler: I'd hate people to think I put it there
    Wol Euler: well you can put it at your place
    Alfred Kelberry: hehe
    Alfred Kelberry: oh, true
    Alfred Kelberry: on the workshop platform
    Wol Euler: /sm
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Alfred Kelberry: ok, night :)
    Wol Euler: goodnight

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