2011.05.26 07:00 - Flow, sorting thoughts and some unexpected sadness

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Storm Nordwind. The comments are by Storm Nordwind.

    SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Storm :)
    Storm Nordwind: Good morning Sharon. Nice to see you. :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia sits on the soft grass
    SophiaSharon Larnia: nice to see you too
    Storm Nordwind: How is your home by the sea? Settled in? Pleasant new neighbors?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I haven't been there very much lately, haven't even seen what's on the ground yet.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I'm not on my home computer but a friends, which has poor graphics
    Storm Nordwind: Oh dear. Well it's probably an improvement if you're looking at me! ;)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ive have been curious about the dots on the minimap converging on a certain place in Bieup tho :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: haha Storm
    Storm Nordwind: Then let your curiosity keep itself to itself for just another couple of weeks! :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :D
    Storm Nordwind: And read its emails, and perhaps put 2 and 2 together (and make 22).
    Storm Nordwind keeps his mouth firmly shut after that :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)

    A new job opportunity for Sharon, and a surprise about sadness.

    SophiaSharon Larnia: Im thinking of taking a job that will limit my play as being attendance considerably, will only be available for the 7am session
    SophiaSharon Larnia: (andmaybe 1 am)
    Storm Nordwind: Oh! How many days a week?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i dont know why id be so sad about that :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: 5
    SophiaSharon Larnia: certainly not a reason to not take it or anything, just surprised at the sadness
    Storm Nordwind: Is the job definitely on offer to you?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: sort of
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Observerm
    Storm Nordwind smiles at the juxtaposition of "definitely" and "sort of" :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: long story, could make it short but not very interesting on the log :D
    Storm Nordwind listens if Sharon wants to tell the long one - and if it's not too private
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Its with children ages 6 -18, with developmental and behaviorial issues, neither of which ive done
    SophiaSharon Larnia: but a good friend works there
    SophiaSharon Larnia: never hurts to do something different i guess
    Storm Nordwind: I admire people who take that sort of things on, but it's not something I would voluntarily do.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: right
    --BELL--
    Storm Nordwind: Sounds like a calling - otherwise it might be very stressful

    Going with the flow.

    SophiaSharon Larnia: been thinking alot of the oft quoted term "go with the flow" :D
    Storm Nordwind: What has been happening to make you believe the flow might be going in that direction?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ive been bored for a really long time
    SophiaSharon Larnia: thats not a reason
    SophiaSharon Larnia: there is a reason but its pretty personal :)
    Storm Nordwind: OK!
    Storm Nordwind: The reason I asked is that "the flow" does often reveal itself in tangible ways
    SophiaSharon Larnia: the flow goes in the direction it goes, i dont really question that, i question most everything else :)

    An old workshop on flow and synchronicity.

    Storm Nordwind used to give talks and workshops on this stuff 15 years ago
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oh! listens :)))
    Storm Nordwind: Don't get your hopes up. I have a memory like a... er... you know... one of those things with holes in them... er... ;)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hehe
    Storm Nordwind: However, one of the things that reveals the flow to someone is synchronicity
    SophiaSharon Larnia: going with the flow assumes a basic trust in it
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes indeed
    Storm Nordwind: Sure it does. Yes whether to trust something like that is an important question.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: nods
    Storm Nordwind: But you may find that an increase in synchronicity shows you're in the right place at the right time doing the right thing
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i find an increase in synchronicity all the time tho

    What is synchronicity?

    Storm Nordwind: Though it remains to say that many people are not sure what synchronicity is :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: you know it when you see it :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: (ok an assumption, but my humble opinion anyway)
    Storm Nordwind: Yes! "Synchronicity is meaningful coincidence that cannot be explained by cause and effect." Meaningful to whom? Meaningful to you!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: its present all the time, sometimes I have the right "glasses" to see it, sometimes I dont

    Weird and Wyrd.

    SophiaSharon Larnia: but if you say this sort of thing to people, they think youre weird
    Storm Nordwind is quite used to that!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Storm Nordwind: And here's another coincidence for you...
    Storm Nordwind: The word "weird" originally comes from the ancient concept of "wyrd", and...
    Storm Nordwind: the title of my workshop was "Working with Wyrd: how to shape your life with synchronicity" :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: looks like old english to me
    Storm Nordwind: But if I lived my life in constant consciousness of how many people thought I was weird, I'd never know what to do!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes, i disregard it mostly (my own, not yours :) ), but do like to fly under the radar nonetheless
    --BELL--
    Storm Nordwind smiles at the idea of his flying constantly under other people's radar :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hahah

    Learning and equanimity.

    Storm Nordwind: But Being is big, always there, all encompassing, and will surely accommodate your having to miss some of your accustomed sessions here. :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oh i know hahah
    SophiaSharon Larnia: just surprised at how i felt about it
    Storm Nordwind: That surprise is good (in my humble opinion). It shows both learning and equanimity.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)

    How the workshop was born.

    SophiaSharon Larnia: how did it come about, that you gave workshops on synchronicity?
    Storm Nordwind: Good question... let me see if I can remember...
    Storm Nordwind: I used to do talks and workshops at conference anyway
    Storm Nordwind: And got some kind of reputation I guess, and was invited to speak at a major one - maybe it was in 1998 - without even having to specify a subject in advance.
    Storm Nordwind: I'd recently been involved personally with that work and I remember doing some runic divination about the potentional subject for the conference.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Storm Nordwind: The divination was unambiguous. So I constructed the workshop and it became a kind of trademark for a few years
    Yakuzza Lethecus: good morning
    SophiaSharon Larnia: interesting
    Storm Nordwind: Hi there Yaku
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Yakuzza :)

    Does flow go anywhere?

    Storm Nordwind: The flow has moved on - I don't do that sort of thing much anymore! ;)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)) the flow has a way of doing that
    SophiaSharon Larnia: carrying you to different topography
    Storm Nordwind: But it's odd in a way - once I had a definite feel of the flow as a movement I could immerse myself in. Now I rather feeling that it does not "go" anywhere at all: that is just is. My going with the flow nowadays is more a sense of being as Being, with What Is.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: if you dont stay in the moment, you can look up one day and not know where you are
    Storm Nordwind: The Law of Location: "Wherever you go, there you are!"
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes STorm, like you said, learning and equanimity
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hehe
    Storm Nordwind: A young man's rushing has maybe been replaced by an old man's poise :)
    --BELL--
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)) Strom
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Strom*
    SophiaSharon Larnia: grr
    Storm Nordwind chuckles
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Storm even
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I hope you have a great rest of your day Storm and Yakuzza, have to go for now
    Yakuzza Lethecus: bye sophia
    Storm Nordwind: Lovely to see you. Bye for now!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: have fun !

    Chopping wood and carrying water.

    Yakuzza Lethecus: chopping wood and carrying water
    Storm Nordwind smiles
    Storm Nordwind: And because of that, there is no external measure of another person's enlightenment :)

    Thoughts on net neutrality.

    Storm Nordwind: How is your day treating you Yaku?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hmm, i am very habitual, nothing fancy happened, eating, googling
    Yakuzza Lethecus: just read an article about net neutrality
    Storm Nordwind: Oh?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: the german telekom had the thought of using QoS and make customers paying for the quality of their network and special services
    Yakuzza Lethecus: to make ppl pay twice for the internetconnectivity
    Yakuzza Lethecus: at least recent events made some bloggers very suspicous about that
    Yakuzza Lethecus: well those are just the news i let closer to myself out of my habits
    Storm Nordwind smiles
    Storm Nordwind: Well their raison d'être is to make money. Providing a service is just a means to an end. Fancy clothes to dress up the service can't disguise that it's all about money. But in that motivation, there will always be the potential to lose touch with the public and commit great gaffes

    How to sort thoughts.

    Yakuzza Lethecus: i wonder a bit how to sort thoughts, how to leave and put down thoughts i can´t change at the moment, while not trying to repress those
    Yakuzza Lethecus: a lot of the thoughts are very much unelaborated tho
    Yakuzza Lethecus: like thinking about ressource distribution and a fair society
    --BELL--
    Yakuzza Lethecus: or of course much more trivial better an android or an iOS tablet
    Storm Nordwind: Maybe write your thoughts down, put them in a box - physical or electronic - and sort them later. Then you won't have to carry them around, or the sorting, in your head all the time! :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: actually sometimes it´s a bit strange, i feel like i put things too simple to too big but don´t find a limit, hard to express and to put thoughts down in a way that they feel fitting in written form
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i think a lot about how expressable things actually are in words and how often we just feel a tention when we or i don´t think to be able to fully communiate thoughts
    Storm Nordwind: The secret is not to judge them as they go in the box. It doesn't matter how well you feel they are expressed.. It's like brainstorming: all thoughts are of equal value and you put them on the board without judgment. Later - maybe much later - you can turn them over and assess them. :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: well, it´s an issue that i will carry further, but i think about these things for ages, no solution seeked for today :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: see you around
    Storm Nordwind: ok!
    Storm Nordwind gets up and leaves the meadow

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