2011.06.07 13:00 - It is good to be seen

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    The Guardian for this meeting was oO0Oo Resident. The comments are by oO0Oo Resident.
    oO0Oo Resident: :) Mr. Mowbray
    oO0Oo Resident: ntsy
    Bruce Mowbray: Peace and blessings, oO0Oo.
    oO0Oo Resident: :)
    Bruce Mowbray: Dream Workshop today?
    oO0Oo Resident: that sounds right Bruce.. ::looks at mini-map for dots::
    oO0Oo Resident: hiya SSL :)
    Bruce Mowbray: Hey, Sharon.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Samúð, hi Bruce
    Bruce Mowbray: Hey, Dash.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Dash
    oO0Oo Resident: hi Dash.. gtsy :)
    Dash's response helps me freshly consider abbreviated forms of expression
    Dash Earthboy: g2bs
    Dash Earthboy: :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: (what is g2bs Dash?) :)
    oO0Oo Resident: good to be '?'
    Dash Earthboy: yep :)
    Bruce Mowbray listens.
    Dash Earthboy: it is good to be seen...sometimes I'm in a fog like ol' Bruce today
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ah i get it now, thx
    Dash Earthboy: i didn't get to sell my guitar today after all
    SophiaSharon Larnia: have you ever played at the pavilion Dash?
    Dash Earthboy: i drove it all the way to the store where he works and he'd forgot his wallet
    SophiaSharon Larnia: sorry to hear that
    Dash Earthboy: no, not here...not good connections/equipment for such streaming
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oh :(
    Dash Earthboy: yah
    Dash Earthboy: but he did inquire why I'm selling my instruction guitar so cheap
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I hope you've caught up on some of your sleep Bruce :)
    Dash Earthboy: and then said he wants to take some lessons from me and is gonna try to help me find other regular (ofc/industry) work around here
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :) Dash
    Dash Earthboy: so there's cause for hope
    oO0Oo Resident: :)

    Exploration of an article related to an initiative in USA-Florida to raise price of tomatoes to resellers and fast food companies..

    Dash Earthboy: meanwhile I see proponents for CIW in Florida are griefing Trader Joe

    Dash Earthboy: something about a Fair Food agreement that raises the price of tomatoes by $1/lb
    Dash Earthboy: http://zesterdaily.com/zester-soapbox-articles/944-trader-joes-says-no-to-increase-for-florida-tomato-farmworkers
    Dash Earthboy: oh crap...the facebook part got in that link
    Dash Earthboy: just start at the second "http"
    Dash Earthboy: was Yaku here earlier?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I cant say Dash
    oO0Oo Resident: I didn't see him when I arrived at a bit before the hour
    Dash Earthboy: ok
    Bruce Mowbray: I think Yaku's at the Dream workshop.
    Dash Earthboy: ah!
    oO0Oo Resident: unable to get this link to work dash
    Dash Earthboy: i was afraid of that
    Dash Earthboy: maybe this one will work better
    Dash Earthboy: http://zesterdaily.com/zester-soapbox-articles/944-trader-joes-says-no-to-increase-for-florida-tomato-farmworkers
    oO0Oo Resident: now i got it; http://zesterdaily.com/zester-soapbox-articles/944-trader-joes-says-no-to-increase-for-florida-tomato-farmworkers&h=2f417
    oO0Oo Resident: kk
    SophiaSharon Larnia: here it says one penny/lb
    Dash Earthboy: oops, i put a dollar instead of a penny didn't i?....blush
    oO0Oo Resident: no worries... interesting article.. will save this to read in more depth.. ty Dash
    SophiaSharon Larnia: no didnt mean for that :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I understand the article, but want to know why they refused, if there is another reason
    Dash Earthboy: thing is, I don't think a dollar a pound would solve the problem their trying to resolve: working conditions, slumlords, things that CIW doesn't have a viable solution for with their penny a pound approach
    Dash Earthboy: on Facebook I sided w/Trader Joe that the approach was not viable as presented
    Agatha Macbeth: Evening all
    Dash Earthboy: hey Agatha
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Aggers
    Bruce Mowbray: Hey, Aggers.
    oO0Oo Resident: hi Aggers :)
    Agatha Macbeth: How are you Bruce?
    Dash Earthboy: Bruce has resolved!
    Agatha Macbeth: Really, wow
    Agatha Macbeth: Resolved what?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: as one of the comments say, its not the responsibility of grocery stores to provide for the farm employees, but since i know so little about this, even saying that much is more than i should say
    Bruce Mowbray: still very weak and wobbly, I'm afraid -- but feeling a bit better than yesterday. Ty for asking.
    Agatha Macbeth: Aww
    Agatha Macbeth: *huggles*

    A fleeting appearance by an unknown passer through

    Dash Earthboy: hey ****
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi ****
    Agatha Macbeth looks for ****
    Dash Earthboy: oops
    SophiaSharon Larnia: and bye ****
    Agatha Macbeth: ???
    SophiaSharon Larnia: somebody just rezzed here and poofed
    Dash Earthboy: my eyes are burning and tearing from allergies
    Agatha Macbeth: Thought you said **** was here
    Dash Earthboy: hard to see sometimes
    Agatha Macbeth: Hay fever?
    Dash Earthboy: guess it was ****
    Agatha Macbeth: Who's ****?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: laughs and shakes her head
    Dash Earthboy: Who is she Soph?
    Agatha Macbeth: The invisible woman evidently
    Bruce Mowbray: **** came to check on Dash's tomatoes.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i dont know, some random person who rezzed here and disappeared
    Agatha Macbeth: That was kind of her
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Bruce! haha
    Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: sheesh
    oO0Oo Resident: hehehe **** rezzed briefly.. perhaps taken to be **** briefly, perhaps thought to be '****' briefly.... ;)
    Bruce Mowbray: Folks, it's time for me to get back in bed. .
    Dash Earthboy: i don't do tomatoes here...i only buy these days
    Bruce Mowbray: I will wish you each a happy and healty day.
    Agatha Macbeth: Aww, take care Brucie
    Dash Earthboy: best to you Bruce
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Bruce, nice to see you and rest why dont you :)
    oO0Oo Resident: A happy and rejuvenating day to you Bruce.. good to see you :)
    Bruce Mowbray: Bye for now.
    Dash: on the CIW effort, the agreement they had the growers & distributors sign sounds wonderful but has no real structure, no real overseeing, and no specified enforecement of all terms
    Aggers whispers: CIW?
        The Coalition of Immokalee Workers (CIW) at Wikipedia: http://is.gd/g4sBtH
    SophiaSharon Larnia: why is the dream workshop ending so soon, thats kind of a first
    Aggers reclines on her side briefly
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Aggers, you look so comfy :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Damn AO
    oO0Oo Resident: :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ;p
    Dash Earthboy: here Aggers... http://zesterdaily.com/zester-soapbo...to-farmworkers
    Agatha Macbeth looks
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah, I see
    Dash Earthboy: they're picking on trader joe
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i love trader joes, im still going to shop there
    Agatha Macbeth: Tell him to drive a tractor over em
    Dash Earthboy: i only have aldi close enough to me
    SophiaSharon Larnia: whos to say the penny would go to workers anyway
    Agatha Macbeth: Me too!
    Dash Earthboy: but I liked TJ in Nashville
    Dash Earthboy: yah Sharon that's a good point
    Dash Earthboy: i boycotted lettuce for a good plan
    SophiaSharon Larnia: whos regulating that? hmmm?
    Dash Earthboy: but CIW...all flash & shoeless immigrant pictures
    SophiaSharon Larnia: and I have to say this kind of convo irritates me, in the sense it makes me feel more helpless than I already do
    Dash Earthboy: how so Sharon?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: exactly how i said
    Dash Earthboy: how more helpless?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: do you think boycotting a tomato will solve poverty?
    Dash Earthboy: huh?
    oO0Oo Resident: the world moves fast.. all we can do sometimes is have impressions
    SophiaSharon Larnia: maybe I should go
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Just the one?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: haha
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i boycott, THAT tomato
    Agatha Macbeth: Mr Tomato...you are boycotted
    Agatha Macbeth: Take it like a vegetable
    Agatha Macbeth: ...fruit
    Agatha Macbeth: I mean
    oO0Oo Resident sees a boy in a hammock like cot, talking to a tomato
    SophiaSharon Larnia: give the families who need them the damn tomatoes
    Dash Earthboy: i think the leader of the movement i supported was Cesar Chavez
    Dash Earthboy: the workers asked us to boycott lettuce to help them negotiate better with the growers
    SophiaSharon Larnia tries to remove her self from the anger
    Dash Earthboy: CIW doesn't seem to have such worker support
    Agatha Macbeth hugs Shaz and strokes her hair
    oO0Oo Resident looks softly at Aggers
    SophiaSharon Larnia: grins thanks Aggers
    Agatha Macbeth: :)
    Dash Earthboy: good timing Aggers
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bah
    Agatha Macbeth nods
    Dash Earthboy: i've had a farm...harvested blueberries, black walnuts, and other things including ginseng
    SophiaSharon Larnia: nice Dash
    Dash Earthboy: i like working close to the ground
    Dash Earthboy: and i like to fly
    Dash Earthboy: i piloted planes in my teens
    SophiaSharon Larnia: a plane?
    Agatha Macbeth: Nothing in between? :p
    SophiaSharon Larnia: do you now?
    Dash Earthboy: yes but only single & dual-engine small aircraft then
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ooh take me
    Dash Earthboy: nothing now
    SophiaSharon Larnia: darn'
    Dash Earthboy: except here on SL
    Dash Earthboy: i can fly anywhere!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: actually i would be scared to death
    Agatha Macbeth: The Red Baron
    Dash Earthboy: barron
    Agatha Macbeth thinks of Snoopy flying his kennel
    Dash Earthboy: heheh
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i took a puddle jumper from delaware to pennsylvania and almost had an anxiety attack on the plane
    SophiaSharon Larnia: and it is not as small as all that
    SophiaSharon Larnia: eep
    Agatha Macbeth: What's a puddle jumper?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i dont know a little plane
    Dash Earthboy: yah, I made one instructor pee his pants
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Dash!
    Agatha Macbeth: Seems an odd name for something which flies
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i know right
    oO0Oo Resident has felt powerless in many ways... and the futility in seeing the simplicity of just wishing those that are hungry could be fed.. in a world not always set up to do that
    Dash Earthboy: well, if a whole ocean is "the pond"?
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah
    SophiaSharon Larnia: it's not?
    Agatha Macbeth: Could be
    Dash Earthboy: i saw an interesting show about finding food growing in the cracks of the sidewalks in NYC
    Agatha Macbeth: Good grief
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Samúð, yes the perceived futility in wishes is what makes me feel powerless, the idea that nothing I could do would make any difference
    Dash Earthboy: and I know there was good food in the vacant lot beside where I lived in Chicago near Wrigley Field
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ive seen those urban gardens
    oO0Oo Resident nods
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i like the ones on top of buildings
    Dash Earthboy: good food grows wild, like the herbs and ginseng and sassafras on my farm did
    Dash Earthboy: yes one can cultivate food too...almost anywhere
    Dash Earthboy: but my neighbors here won't let me grow/harvest anything outside
    SophiaSharon Larnia: boo
    Agatha Macbeth: Get a window box :p
    Dash Earthboy: the ones with the loose Doberman who cut down healthy trees to run their off-road vehicles in
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i have to say, its much easier to work at a job and buy the food than grow it
    Agatha Macbeth: (a big one)
    Dash Earthboy: yes those are good ideas Shar/Aga
    Agatha Macbeth: :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i try to buy local
    Dash Earthboy: my son thinks it's easier to buy Chik-FilA than to cook too :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i do too lololo;
    Dash Earthboy: but I like to cook
    SophiaSharon Larnia: just awful for you in the long run (and short run too)
    Dash Earthboy: oh there's healthy food out in those restaurants
    Dash Earthboy: just gotta look careful
    Dash Earthboy: and then afford it
    Agatha Macbeth looks careful
    SophiaSharon Larnia: the fast food here is cheaper than groceries
    Dash Earthboy: i heard that
    Agatha Macbeth: There's the rub
    SophiaSharon Larnia: the junk in bargain stores like save a lot is cheap cheap cheap
    Dash Earthboy: i've found that problem at some places
    Agatha Macbeth loves junk
    SophiaSharon Larnia: and to feed a family, a great deal
    SophiaSharon Larnia: blah
    Dash Earthboy: i used sav a lot in Ohio
    SophiaSharon Larnia: you get stuff there that isnt junk
    SophiaSharon Larnia: you can*
    Dash Earthboy: mainly I like to grow my food to cut down on all the packaging we use
    SophiaSharon Larnia: but the big family dinners are like, 2 bucks
    Dash Earthboy: for sure Shar
    SophiaSharon Larnia: gee what is wrong with me today
    Dash Earthboy: really good deals
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: The weather?
    oO0Oo Resident: the challenges of the world today require great courage to be seen clearly, and to work with.. the practical choices can be complex and time consuming.. the emotional stuff hard to experience
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i am so confused
    SophiaSharon Larnia: how can this be perfect
    Agatha Macbeth: Awww
    Dash Earthboy: what's perfect?
    oO0Oo Resident looks softly at SSL
    oO0Oo Resident: your kindness and compassion are so apparent
    Agatha Macbeth: She's a real sweetie our Sharon :)
    Dash Earthboy: :)
    oO0Oo Resident: yep
    SophiaSharon Larnia: “When you realize how perfect everything is you will tilt your head back and laugh at the sky”
    Dash Earthboy: maybe the question is "how can this be perfected"?
    oO0Oo Resident: all wisdom traditions combine paradox
    SophiaSharon Larnia: no it isnt, i am just an angry person
    Dash Earthboy: anger isn't always a bad thing
    SophiaSharon Larnia: anyway, this sort of convo rubs my fur the wrong way
    oO0Oo Resident: agreed Dash... there is great intelligence in it
    Dash Earthboy: against the grain, Sharon?
    oO0Oo Resident: brb.. washroom
    SophiaSharon Larnia: something like that
    Dash Earthboy: it's almost time for me to bow out too...anything I can do to brush out the knits, Sharon?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hahah
    SophiaSharon Larnia: no sorry to whine
    feel a shift in energy, as though ducking under the imaginary boom swung cross deck after some enigmatic wind hits an invisible sail
    SophiaSharon Larnia: and yes I would like some cheese with that whine
    Agatha Macbeth: I love cheese
    SophiaSharon Larnia: giggles
    Agatha Macbeth: Especially emmental
    SophiaSharon Larnia: huh? mental?
    Dash Earthboy: i'll leave with this meditation: how can one pay attention when one lives in denial?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i never claimed to liv in denial
    Agatha Macbeth: Depends how much you pay him I guess
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :D
    Dash Earthboy: :)
    Taking a washroom break, I missed what Dash switched on, but it seemed to freshen the sails further
    Dash Earthboy: on
    Dash Earthboy: off
    Agatha Macbeth: Good heavens
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ohh lord
    oO0Oo Resident: back
    Dash Earthboy: bye!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: wb
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Dash :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Take care dash
    Agatha Macbeth: Dance well
    oO0Oo Resident: bye Dash :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ok i think im just going to put my head in the freezers, maybe im just too hot
    oO0Oo Resident giggles
    SophiaSharon Larnia: better than then the oven
    SophiaSharon Larnia giggles
    Agatha Macbeth: How many heads and how many freezers?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: good lord
    oO0Oo Resident: :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: is feeling extraordinarily lazy
    Agatha Macbeth: Never mind: soon be Christmas
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hahahaha
    SophiaSharon Larnia: you can never start too early
    Aggers and SophiaSharon Onigokko in a small circle. I giggle, feeling lighter and lighter..
    Agatha Macbeth: onigokko
    oO0Oo Resident: shhhh... the shops will start stocking Christmas items
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ack!!!
    oO0Oo Resident giggles
    oO0Oo Resident giggles
    SophiaSharon Larnia: that will freak me out
    oO0Oo Resident giggles
    SophiaSharon Larnia: consumerism taken to a new level
    oO0Oo Resident giggles
    SophiaSharon Larnia: boing
    oO0Oo Resident giggles
    Agatha Macbeth: boing boing
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yay running rings around Samuo
    SophiaSharon Larnia: “When you realize how perfect everything is you will tilt your head back and laugh at the sky”
    Agatha Macbeth: Or onigokko
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ha!!!
    oO0Oo Resident giggles
    Agatha Macbeth: 0 will die laughing in a minute
    oO0Oo Resident: weeeee =)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: thanks again, i am always thanking someone
    Agatha Macbeth: Gratitude is good :p
    oO0Oo Resident: thanks for that SSL!
    oO0Oo Resident: thanks Aggers
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hey, i hope it was clear what i meant
    oO0Oo Resident: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: stop
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i sure get more than i give it seems
    oO0Oo Resident: yes, and thanks
    SophiaSharon Larnia: lol
    Agatha Macbeth smiles
    oO0Oo Resident: feel the same SSL
    Agatha Macbeth: That cured yer laziness
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hehhe it did a bit
    SophiaSharon Larnia: but now im hotter
    SophiaSharon Larnia: laughs
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye 4 now :))
    Agatha Macbeth: Hot stuff
    oO0Oo Resident: whooo... feel like a strong, sharp, salty, seabreeze just had its way with my head :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Bye Shaz
    SophiaSharon Larnia: cool
    Agatha Macbeth: Take care with the freezer
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    oO0Oo Resident: bye SSL.. thank you
    Agatha Macbeth: Bye 0, meditate well :)
    oO0Oo Resident: bye Aggers.. keep diaphanous gowns on hand ;) .. and thanks

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