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*Wol Euler was guardian for this session.*

eggsalad Ormstein: wos macht du?

Wol Euler: good morning, egg

eggsalad Ormstein: good evening, wol :)

Wol Euler: nicht viel, habe tee gekocht aber noch nicht vor mir im Glas :)

Wol Euler: nice outfit!

eggsalad Ormstein: nice av!

eggsalad Ormstein: and thank you

Wol Euler smiles.

Wol Euler: ty

eggsalad Ormstein: well, my Geman friend finally showed me his truck

eggsalad Ormstein: it was actually worse than he represented

Wol Euler: the one that is for sale too cheap?

Wol Euler: ah

Wol Euler: so not too cheap?

eggsalad Ormstein: too expensive... by almost double

Wol Euler: wow

Wol Euler chuckles

eggsalad Ormstein: I hated to have to make him such a low offer, but it was all I could do

Wol Euler nods.

eggsalad Ormstein: as of now, he is searching his files for some receipts of work he claims was done

Wol Euler: sounds a bit messy, friendship-wise

eggsalad Ormstein: more of a friendly co-worker, than an acutal friend. He's being in good spirits about it

Wol Euler: good

eggsalad Ormstein: musicians, even German musicians, are a different breed

Wol Euler: how so?

eggsalad Ormstein: they just don't take very much seriously, aside from music

Wol Euler: ah :)

Wol Euler: hence the qualification "even German musicians" :)

eggsalad Ormstein: the problem with the truck is that it is solid mechanically, but looks like poop.

Wol Euler: damage? or just neglect?

eggsalad Ormstein: yes, because most other Germans of my acquaintance take *everything* too seriously

Wol Euler: yep

eggsalad Ormstein: both :(

Wol Euler: hmmmm

Wol Euler: what will you do? go through wiht it at a much lower price?

Wol Euler: or is the condition so poor youdon't want it now?

--BELL--

eggsalad Ormstein: if he can find the receipts, I will. I told him, I believe he had the work done, but I would need the receipts to prove it to a future buyer

Wol Euler nods.

eggsalad Ormstein: I'm sorry. I'm suddenly very tired. I must go. Be well.

Wol Euler: goodnight, egg, sleep well

Wol Euler: hello rhi

Rhiannon Dragoone: all by your lonesome, Wol?

Wol Euler: yeah )

Rhiannon Dragoone: And oh, you're a cat? Want a scratch behind the ears?

Wol Euler: egg was here, but was suddenly overcome by tiredness and went off to bed

Wol Euler: cats always want earscritches :)

Rhiannon Dragoone reaches over and scratches Wol

Wol Euler closes her eyes, leans her head over and purrs

Rhiannon Dragoone: Oh, and you've taken your fur off. lol

Wol Euler: :)

Wol Euler: furries can be nude too

Rhiannon Dragoone: brb My dog just threw up

Wol Euler: eeeek

--BELL--

Rhiannon Dragoone: back

Wol Euler: wb

Rhiannon Dragoone: Did I ever tell you the story how I got my dog?

Wol Euler: not yet :)

Rhiannon Dragoone: Well, Rosalyn and I went to the pound to get a dog; she wanted one dog very badly and I wanted another; so we ended up getting both dogs. Only the one I got for me decided she wanted to be Rosalyn's dog, and the one Rosalyn wanted turned out to like me. So we ended up picking out the perfect dog--for the other person

Wol Euler: heheheheh

Wol Euler: sweet

Rhiannon Dragoone: Now that we all live together, it's like we're a perfectly functioning pack

Wol Euler smiles

Rhiannon Dragoone: All female lol

Wol Euler: of course

Wol Euler: sorry, I'm a little distracted today

Rhiannon Dragoone: oh, it's ok

Wol Euler: finding it hard to focus

Rhiannon Dragoone: I will probably be logging soon; i'm on holiday, but it's still alte for me

Wol Euler: ah, right, your summer holiday

Wol Euler: does it feel strange to have time to yourself?

Rhiannon Dragoone: Well, there's Rosalyn, who is very needy; my time to myself is very precious

Wol Euler: of course, yes

Wol Euler: I phrased that badly, I meant the sense of not having regular fixed working obligations outside the house

Rhiannon Dragoone: oh, right; yeah, it's strange; first real vacation I've had in I don't know how long.

Wol Euler: yeah, you mentioned that. I thought it might be strange :)

Wol Euler: take it as a chance to practice wu wei :) inactive but not passive, awareness

Wol Euler: accept what the days bringh

Rhiannon Dragoone: Good idea

Rhiannon Dragoone: I try to do that anyway

Wol Euler nods.

Rhiannon Dragoone: Ever since being on the streets; you sort of focus on getting through the day; never mind tomorrow

Wol Euler nods soberly

Rhiannon Dragoone: I'm a bit more long range focused now (lol) but I still try to maintain that 'one day at a time' attidue

Rhiannon Dragoone: Staves off anxiety

Wol Euler nods.

--BELL--

Rhiannon Dragoone: Hi Valhala!

Wol Euler: hello val

Wol Euler: have you been here before?

Valhala Vollmar: Hey! Rhi

Rhiannon Dragoone: Wol, this is my new friend, Valhala

Valhala Vollmar: Hey! Wol

Wol Euler: hi, pleased to meet you

Valhala Vollmar: nope

Wol Euler: okay, I'll give you the 9 second introduction

Valhala Vollmar: ok, thx

Wol Euler: this is a meeting of a meditation group called Play as Being, we gather here 4x daily to talk about meditation and life, and sometimes just to chat

Wol Euler: though the chat does tend to return to awareness and meditation and acceptance (non-judgement)

Wol Euler: as Rhi and I were just saying about letting holidays bring what they will

Wol Euler: we have a website, http://wiki.playasbeing.org/

Wol Euler: which has mountains of info about us and our practices

Wol Euler: we record and publish these sessions, so that absent members can read what was said.

Wol Euler: may we have your permission to include your SL name and your comments in the published log?

Valhala Vollmar: oh ... do i have to sign anything?

Valhala Vollmar: o.O

Wol Euler: not literally, a yes or no would do :)

Valhala Vollmar: may i invite Hana to join us?

Wol Euler: sure

Valhala Vollmar: yes, u may record me

Rhiannon Dragoone: Hi Hana!

Valhala Vollmar: *:·.✶ Hello Darling! *:·.♥

Haruka Flores: hello Rhiannon :)

Wol Euler: hello hana, welcome

Haruka Flores: hello Wol

Haruka Flores: Hey Val dear :)

Wol Euler: I'll give you the same short intro I just gave Val

Wol Euler: this is a meeting of a meditation group called Play as Being, we gather here 4x daily to talk about meditation and life, and sometimes just to chat

Valhala Vollmar: Wol is about 5 seconds into the 9 second tour

Wol Euler: though the chat does tend to return to awareness and meditation and acceptance (non-judgement)

Wol Euler: as Rhi and I were just saying about letting holidays bring what they will

Wol Euler: we have a website, http://wiki.playasbeing.org/

Wol Euler: which has mountains of info about us and our practices

Valhala Vollmar: letting holidays be what they will ....

Wol Euler: we record and publish these sessions, so that absent members can read what was said.

Valhala Vollmar: what is the next holiday coming up

Wol Euler: may we have your permission to include your SL name and your comments in the published log?

Valhala Vollmar: yes, u have my permission

Wol Euler: ty

Valhala Vollmar: love ur avie, Wol

Wol Euler smiles. Thank you

Valhala Vollmar: spots thrill me!

Wol Euler: :)

Valhala Vollmar: and antlers!

Valhala Vollmar: awesome!

Wol Euler: I'm a catelope

Valhala Vollmar: heehee

Wol Euler: and I need more tea. back in a sec

Haruka Flores: oh sorry, was reading the notecard. yes, you have my permission

Valhala Vollmar: as opposed to a CANTalope

Valhala Vollmar: cute

Haruka Flores: now i want tea too

Wol Euler: ty :)

Haruka Flores: (^ ^) maybe coffee doesn't suit the meditation mood

Rhiannon Dragoone: I like both--catalopes and cantalopes

Wol Euler smiles.

Haruka Flores: brb, running downstairs and back

Wol Euler: fun!

Wol Euler: I'm feeling too twitchy today for coffee

Rhiannon Dragoone: Well, i'd describe this as a contemplative place, not necessarily a meditative place

Wol Euler: don't know why

Rhiannon Dragoone: Full moon, maybe

Valhala Vollmar: i had coffee today before the test

Wol Euler: yeah, could be that; and the weather change, warming up after days of rain

Valhala Vollmar: ooh yeah, full moon

Rhiannon Dragoone: Blackenened had to ban three people today at Eternal Desires and Molly the Troll was in full blossom at Philosophy House

Valhala Vollmar: and a lunar eclipse too

Wol Euler: yeah! I missed that though, it was cloudy here that night

Valhala Vollmar: i'm in USA so we all missed it

Wol Euler nods.

Valhala Vollmar: had to watch it online

Valhala Vollmar: so ... holidays

Wol Euler: I have a cousin who's a nurse, works late shift in the ER. Her business doubles on full moon nights

Haruka Flores: back with tea :) *scrolls up to read what i missed*

Wol Euler: wb

Valhala Vollmar: i guess the next holiday coming in this part of the world is father's day

Valhala Vollmar: ooh, what kinda of tea?

Wol Euler: mine is milky darjeeling, not too strong

Valhala Vollmar: i guess father's day will have no meaning

Valhala Vollmar: i like darjeeling

Rhiannon Dragoone: yeah, the moon looked shiny and bright yesterday and today

Haruka Flores: just milk tea

Haruka Flores: :)

Valhala Vollmar: i should go out and look at it now

Valhala Vollmar: it's 4am here

Wol Euler: huh

Wol Euler: 11am for me, in Germany

Haruka Flores: i missed out on looking at the real moon :( i have to wait for tonight, and i hope it is still there and visible

Valhala Vollmar: im sure it will be almost full

Haruka Flores: it's 4.58pm friday in malaysia here

Valhala Vollmar: it was full at 3 something pm GMT today

Rhiannon Dragoone: Wow, so you know the future?

Wol Euler: heh, we cover half the world

Valhala Vollmar: heehee

Valhala Vollmar: where r u Rhi

Wol Euler chuckles.

Haruka Flores: (^_^)

Valhala Vollmar: i'm in texas

--BELL--

Rhiannon Dragoone: I hear the stars at night are big and bright there, Val

Valhala Vollmar: out in the country, yes

Valhala Vollmar: i'm out about 15 miles from the city

Rhiannon Dragoone: Oh, right, where seldom is heard a discouraging word and the sky is not cloudy all day

Valhala Vollmar: still get some "glow"

Valhala Vollmar: no, that's oklahoma

Valhala Vollmar: teehee

Haruka Flores: wait, does this 90 seconds of silence mean i should not type for 90 seconds or just meaning not talking by voice? (^ ^) sorry, i'm new to this

Wol Euler: no typing

Valhala Vollmar: oopsie

Valhala Vollmar: sorry

Rhiannon Dragoone: oh, that's where the wind comes whistling down the plains

Wol Euler: we use text chat here because of the recording

Wol Euler: can't record/publish voice

Wol Euler: at least not without an unreasonable amount of effort

Valhala Vollmar: so a no typing "silence" every 15 minutes?

Wol Euler: yep

Valhala Vollmar: eep, sorry

Haruka Flores: i see (^ ^) no worries val, we're forgiving folks

Valhala Vollmar: i'm flapping my fingers

Wol Euler: a pause to relax the thoughts, drop what we think we are about, and feel what is happening around us

Haruka Flores: i wish we have this in Philosophy House, lol

Wol Euler: no worries

Wol Euler: yeah, it is really useful to defuse tense conversations

Wol Euler: if people respect it

Valhala Vollmar: aaaaah, yes...

Valhala Vollmar: it gets a bit harsh and cruel at HP it seems

Wol Euler nods.

Valhala Vollmar: sorta stunned by the namecalling

Haruka Flores: yes, this place ooze calmness, that place *need* the 90 second break

Wol Euler: I find most "philosophical" discussion distressing these days

Wol Euler: so cruel

Valhala Vollmar: i think plato would jsut get up and leave

Wol Euler: as though truth were nothing but a blunt weapon

Rhiannon Dragoone: Hanna, well, PH is an anarchy, so it wouldn't work

Haruka Flores: but i guess those people who are mean won't like it if it's implemented and troll elsewhere

Valhala Vollmar: what's so philosophical about calling someone an idiot?

Wol Euler: exactly

Rhiannon Dragoone: Hana, they tried regulating PH, created Philosophy Island as a regulated version; the island got torn apart by bannings

Valhala Vollmar: but mebbe they are all the existencialists

Valhala Vollmar: lol

Valhala Vollmar: (sp)

Haruka Flores: you're right about that Rhiannon. as i said in PH, it reminds me of the people in the commune house i used to live in RL. lol Val

Haruka Flores: they won't like the 90 seconds break and would laugh at the very idea :P

Rhiannon Dragoone: Hana, yes, it reminds me of similr things

Rhiannon Dragoone: No, they 90 sec breaks would allow Molly and others to have tirades while everyone else were silent

Valhala Vollmar: sorry to be so random and digress, Wol

Wol Euler: no worries

Haruka Flores takes deep breath. noticing lots of anger in me

Wol Euler: mmhmm

Valhala Vollmar: i totally muted and even derendered her tonite

Wol Euler: it's good to note these things

Rhiannon Dragoone: There's of ten periods of silence actually there at PH, if you don't count the silloqueys; sometimes, one person will hold forth and everyone else will be silent. Does that count?

Wol Euler: to notice what is going on inside

Rhiannon Dragoone: lol

Haruka Flores: lol Rhiannon, maybe that could count. i can imagine people feeling insecure about the silence too

Valhala Vollmar: if a philosopher talks in the forest ...

Valhala Vollmar: teehee

Wol Euler: ... does anyone disagree?

Rhiannon Dragoone giggles

Wol Euler: probably yes

Wol Euler: without even hearing him/her

Rhiannon Dragoone: Wol, oh, always

Rhiannon Dragoone: But this morning, actually, I had a conversation with a woman who actually wanted to come to an agreement

Wol Euler: "I disagree, what did you say?" is the motto

Rhiannon Dragoone: We dovetailed our positions; so it does happen

Wol Euler: ah! nice

Valhala Vollmar: sweet!

Haruka Flores: that is good (^_^)

Rhiannon Dragoone: Yeah, she's a noob, [redacted], who I suspect has had at least some graduate training in philosophy.

Valhala Vollmar: i would think that at least arriving at an understanding of what the other means would be the assumed goal

Wol Euler: yeah, you'd think so, eh?

Wol Euler: it seems to be the opposite though; to beat the other person down to accepting your viewpoint

Rhiannon Dragoone: The thing is, *everyone* goes to Ph; unlike the other places, which have regulars or keep some people out, and there is a community but it's like the wild west

Valhala Vollmar: i don't have to agree to understand

Wol Euler: right

Wol Euler: and I can disagree without condemning

Valhala Vollmar: agree without being disagreeable

Rhiannon Dragoone: yeah, it's actually gotten better since I've been going to it. It used to be much worse

Valhala Vollmar: [redacted] was railing against someone when i arrived

Rhiannon Dragoone: [redacted] would.

Wol Euler: which is the essence of how we try to conduct our meetings here. Respectful, listening; always considering the possibility that we might just perhaps maybe be a tiny bit wrong

Valhala Vollmar: but later she IM'd and sort of apologized

Rhiannon Dragoone: lol

Haruka Flores: i find it hard to understand what other means through typing sometimes. and yes, people can disagree without condemning

Wol Euler nods.

Valhala Vollmar: well, that's what questions r for, hana

Wol Euler: the answer there, hana, is to ask for clarification, not to jump to conclusions about what was meant

Wol Euler: certainly not to conclude that the other meant to insult us

Valhala Vollmar: and i'll ask a million

Rhiannon Dragoone: It depends on who's there; there are people from the Govenring Council who really believe in the palce, they try to have a calming influence

Rhiannon Dragoone: Without being authoritarian about it

Valhala Vollmar: i hope i had a calming influence

Rhiannon Dragoone: And when there is an outsider who comes in and threatens somebody, the whole group rallies

Haruka Flores: you so Val :)

Valhala Vollmar: well, total outsider here i guess

Wol Euler smiles.

Rhiannon Dragoone: Val, you were one of the voices of calm and reason, and in that environment, everyone has to take responsibility to do that

Rhiannon Dragoone: Val, no, you fit right in

Valhala Vollmar: it's all so fresh in my mind being in the philosophy class at school right now and all

Rhiannon Dragoone: There was a Christian--may way or yougo to hell type--there a while ago, and everyone, including the resident, I'm a Christian and youwill go to hell type,' rallied against her. She tried to ge them to turn on me, and instead, they turned on her

Valhala Vollmar: it's amazing to actually talk about it outside of class

Wol Euler nods.

Valhala Vollmar: eep

Rhiannon Dragoone: Val, one of the reasons for Philosophy House

Wol Euler: people seem to go to philosophy places to expound, not to learn

Wol Euler: with some honourable exceptoins

Valhala Vollmar: well, i'm a christian but that means i need to be extra respectful

Rhiannon Dragoone: Wol, well,it depends on the person; a lot of egos involved

Valhala Vollmar: at least in my little mind

Wol Euler: of course :)

Rhiannon Dragoone: Val,yes,ican see you rallaying like the Christian in the group that day.

--BELL--

Valhala Vollmar: sshhhh

Wol Euler smiles.

Valhala Vollmar: sorry

Wol Euler: np

Valhala Vollmar: the teacher in me finds it too easy to shoosh ppl

Valhala Vollmar: lol

Wol Euler: :)

Rhiannon Dragoone: lol

Haruka Flores: (^ ^) no worries. you're a good teacher

Valhala Vollmar: thx, sweetie

Valhala Vollmar: ^.^

Haruka Flores: the most i've got in my childhood would be the spanking already, hehe

Rhiannon Dragoone: Well, it's something youhave to do.

Valhala Vollmar: i do it in public all the time

Rhiannon Dragoone: Well,here in sl,you only spank people for fun

Wol Euler: :)

Wol Euler: or for profit :-P

Valhala Vollmar: not spanking

Valhala Vollmar: shooshing

Haruka Flores: profit XD

Valhala Vollmar: so .... holidays, huh?

Valhala Vollmar: what's the next holiday for y'all?

Wol Euler: we just had three long weekends, religious holidays; the next is late summer I believe

Rhiannon Dragoone: Well, I am taking a break during June and July before going back towork

Rhiannon Dragoone: The next holiday,Iguess, is the 4thof July

Valhala Vollmar: i have june and july off too

Valhala Vollmar: but doing some master's classes during all of june

Haruka Flores: i feel more relaxed on my workdays because i freelance at the moment and feel not so relaxed during weekend social outings, lol. but it means less money than when i work full time

Rhiannon Dragoone: Only a month for me.

Valhala Vollmar: yeah, hana, i can imagine

Rhiannon Dragoone: Yeah, don't remind me of the thight money, Hana. Whew!

Valhala Vollmar: what were the holidays that just past, Wol?

Haruka Flores: sorry to remind you of it, Rhiannon >.<

Wol Euler: easter, pentecost, ascension

Valhala Vollmar: i'm glad they have us on a 12 month pay system at my school

Haruka Flores: the last 2 is something i never heard of, Wol

Haruka Flores: that is good Val :)

Valhala Vollmar: penticost is 50 days after easter

Wol Euler: pentecost is the 50th day after easter, ascension is Christ rising from the cross to Heaven

Valhala Vollmar: right?

Wol Euler: yep

Valhala Vollmar: and ascension day is the week before pentecost?

Valhala Vollmar: is that right?

Valhala Vollmar: they are all catholic holidays, hana

Haruka Flores: then what day is it call when everyone have to eat pancakes for one day or some days? forgot what it was called

Wol Euler: it's in the Apostles, I think, there was a meeting of the faithful and suddenly all could understand each other, as though they had a common language

Valhala Vollmar: mebbe lent

Wol Euler: shrove tuesday, in England

Haruka Flores: oh yeah, i made pancakes that day :D i was in england at that time

Wol Euler: I'm not particularly well infomred, I must admit

Valhala Vollmar: ooh yeah, i forgot about that one

Rhiannon Dragoone: Hana, I call that Sundays. lol

Haruka Flores: lol Rhiannon

Valhala Vollmar: do waffles count?

Wol Euler: I haven't made pancakes in ages ...

Wol Euler smiles.

Valhala Vollmar: i had a toaster waffle for breakfast yesterday

Rhiannon Dragoone: Well, it's getting late for me; I am heading out.

Valhala Vollmar: ok,

Wol Euler: goodnight rhi, sleep well

Valhala Vollmar: thx for the invite Rhi

Valhala Vollmar: have a wonderful night

Haruka Flores: have a good night Rhiannon

Wol Euler: actually I must go soon too, the working day is about to begin

Wol Euler: it was nice to meet you both

Valhala Vollmar: yes, wonderful day for u, Wol

Haruka Flores: thank you for the invite too, and see you soon :)

Valhala Vollmar: so nice to meet u!

Rhiannon Dragoone: goodnight,Wol, ty

Rhiannon Dragoone: ur welcome al

Valhala Vollmar: SMOOCH!

Wol Euler: we gahter here 4x daily, 1am 7am 1pm 7pm SL time

Wol Euler: feel free to drop in

Rhiannon Dragoone: See you real soon, Hana, Val

Valhala Vollmar: okies

Haruka Flores: see you soon Rhiannon. Nice to meet you too

Haruka Flores: it's nice making new friends here

Wol Euler nods.

Wol Euler: that is what SL is about, to me: people

Haruka Flores: despite in the midst of the bad, hehe

Valhala Vollmar: yes

Haruka Flores: i agree Wol :)

Wol Euler smiles and shrugs. There are bad people everywhere, just as there are good. It's your choice which you associate with

Wol Euler: whether you let your life be governed by the rude and angry, or let their words flow past you

Valhala Vollmar: wouldn't it be soo cool if u could mute in RL?

Wol Euler: yeah :)))

Valhala Vollmar: heehee

Haruka Flores: lol, that would be rad!

Wol Euler: and the inventory! I want a RL inventory

Valhala Vollmar: and derender too!

Wol Euler: just push everything into it

Valhala Vollmar: i'd settle for a tail!

Haruka Flores: i would pick the muslim extremist sexist first!

Haruka Flores: the whole bunch of them, and probably report them, lol. but too bad they are the authority in my country, lol

Valhala Vollmar: this place .... such possibilities

Valhala Vollmar: sorry, Hana

Wol Euler: :)

Haruka Flores: no worries, i learn to take it with a pinch of salt these days

Valhala Vollmar: i suppose i'd just sorta hide away

Valhala Vollmar: either that or get burned at the stake in the town square for mouthing off to them

Valhala Vollmar: teehee

Wol Euler nods.

Haruka Flores: why do you think i'm in second life AND planning to migrate to england, lol

Wol Euler: my dears, I must go. Take care, enjoy the day; and perhaps see you again.

Haruka Flores: take care Wol. it's great meeting you too :)

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