2011.06.18 13:00 - Puzzles, peach stones and eagles

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Aphrodite Macbain. The comments are by Aphrodite Macbain.


    Bruce Mowbray: Hey, Druth!
    FcSeeker Resident: greetings
    druth Vlodovic: oops, hi FS
    druth Vlodovic: hi aph
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Druth
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hiya Fc
    FcSeeker Resident: greetings
    druth Vlodovic: wb seeker
    FcSeeker Resident: this seems to be a gathering place
    Aphrodite Macbain: quiet time right now. Yes it is FC, 4 times a day
    Aphrodite Macbain: 1pm, 7pm, 1am and 7am
    FcSeeker Resident: hmm
    FcSeeker Resident: there's three entities now...
    druth Vlodovic: we record chats on a special approach to ontology
    FcSeeker Resident: in the name of what the meeting is ?
    Aphrodite Macbain: This a group that is part of Play as being
    druth Vlodovic: would you like a notecard on it?
    FcSeeker Resident: yes I would
    Aphrodite Macbain: There you are (Hands Fc the card)
    FcSeeker Resident: thank you
    FcSeeker Resident: (reading)
    Aphrodite Macbain: This session is being recorded. Is that OK with you?
    FcSeeker Resident: ah sure
    FcSeeker Resident: no problem
    FcSeeker Resident: awww
    Aphrodite Macbain: every 15 minutes a bell goes off, like now, and we stop what we are doing and are silent for 90 seconds
    FcSeeker Resident: aha
    FcSeeker Resident: interesting text
    Aphrodite Macbain: Are you new to SL?
    FcSeeker Resident: may I ask something ?
    Aphrodite Macbain: please
    FcSeeker Resident: please see my profile
    Aphrodite Macbain: It says you are new to SL
    Aphrodite Macbain: not much more
    FcSeeker Resident: well...I would like to know that how that's possible that there's anything left if gives up of everything ?
    FcSeeker Resident: that I meant; my age in SL
    Aphrodite Macbain: that's all it says
    FcSeeker Resident: hmmm
    druth Vlodovic: some people have several accounts, so they can have a new "alt" but have been SLing for years
    Aphrodite Macbain: did you add more to it?
    FcSeeker Resident: ah yes
    FcSeeker Resident: dont know why the text is not there anymore
    FcSeeker Resident: but...that about that
    FcSeeker Resident: but how about my question ?
    druth Vlodovic: let's hear it
    FcSeeker Resident: (shall fix the profile a bit)
    Aphrodite Macbain: your real world is top secret
    FcSeeker Resident: ?
    Aphrodite Macbain: That's what it says

    Aphrodite Macbain: Druth, how did the rest of Pamala's session go?

    druth Vlodovic: about two minutes after you left they actually started, 15 minutes late
    Aphrodite Macbain: We're talking about the Roadside Philosophers Think Tank this morning at 8
    Aphrodite Macbain: with Pamala Clift
    druth Vlodovic: I had a hard time following since they use voice a lot

    druthVlodovic: oh I see

    Aphrodite Macbain: The subject was irony, criticism,

    druth Vlodovic: though everyone seems to get slightly different things out of it
    Aphrodite Macbain: I kinda gave up with the popguns
    Aphrodite Macbain: What have you been exploring in SL, FC?
    Aphrodite Macbain: found some interesting sites?
    FcSeeker Resident: few groups
    druth Vlodovic: lol, not giving up everything, just dropping everything, just preconceptions
    FcSeeker Resident: It's a thought experiment to see what is left if we let go of what we have.
    Aphrodite Macbain waves at Susan
    iwandertoo Resident: waves
    FcSeeker Resident: this is the text on the notecard...
    druth Vlodovic: yes, it is a matter of pausing perceptions and seeing what arises in the mind
    FcSeeker Resident: greetings iwandentoo
    iwandertoo Resident: waves

    FcSeeker Resident: well...to me to 'let go' is to let go...
    FcSeeker Resident: ah sorry
    FcSeeker Resident: I must go
    FcSeeker Resident: was nice to meet you
    iwandertoo Resident: waves
    druth Vlodovic: sorry we're kind of scattered today
    druth Vlodovic: I hope to see you again
    FcSeeker Resident: have nice time

    Aphrodite Macbain: Do you not hear voice druth>?
    FcSeeker Resident: me too
    druth Vlodovic: I find it extremely annoying
    Aphrodite Macbain: Susan, I did some retail therapy today which cheered me up a bit
    druth Vlodovic: to get the same effect I'll just listen to '80's "heavy metal" in a construction zone :(
    Aphrodite Macbain: same effect as what?
    druth Vlodovic: as SL voice communications
    druth Vlodovic: it's bad tech
    Aphrodite Macbain: I hear things fine I just cant speak


    Therapy for the blues

    druth Vlodovic: "retailtherapy" how much did you spend?
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hmm about $250. shoes, underwear, nightie...
    druth Vlodovic: sounds like an interesting costume
    Aphrodite Macbain: hehe
    Aphrodite Macbain: they do almost match!
    Aphrodite Macbain: This personal depression is going to cost me a lot
    druth Vlodovic: are you being treated for it?
    Aphrodite Macbain: Not really
    Aphrodite Macbain: I have some stuff which helps reduce some anxiety
    druth Vlodovic: I gave up on that stuff myself the 3rd time they doubled my dosage to no effect
    druth Vlodovic: then I read that suicide is one of the possible side effects of the medication
    Aphrodite Macbain: really? maybe it was the wrong family of drugs
    druth Vlodovic: lol
    druth Vlodovic: I could do that cheaper on my own
    Aphrodite Macbain: arggh
    druth Vlodovic: probably
    Aphrodite Macbain: how bizarre. I suppose some people respond to drugs in the exact opposite way they should react
    druth Vlodovic: something to do with getting your energy back before you actually feel better
    Aphrodite Macbain: sometimes it takes a while for the effect of the drug to kick in
    Aphrodite Macbain: My best therapy is walking - vigorously
    Aphrodite Macbain: preferably with a good friend
    druth Vlodovic: do you have vigorous walking friends?
    Aphrodite Macbain: hehe fortunately yes - but they aren't often available.
    Aphrodite Macbain: The seawall is a good route, 10k . It's good for me and it clears the brain and wakes up a few endorphins
    druth Vlodovic: sounds like fun
    Aphrodite Macbain: and the occasional dolphin
    Aphrodite Macbain: wanna join me?
    druth Vlodovic: "walking with dolphins" :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: hehe
    druth Vlodovic: might be a bit of a commute
    Aphrodite Macbain: Susan - what's your favourite way of dealing with the blues?


    iwandertoo Resident: thinking
    iwandertoo Resident: puzzles
    iwandertoo Resident: walking
    Aphrodite Macbain: interesting - engaging the brain does stimulate it
    iwandertoo Resident: pieces of things coming together
    Aphrodite Macbain: getting caught in a fascinating book can help me
    iwandertoo Resident: same way i deal with life...
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes?
    iwandertoo Resident: yes
    iwandertoo Resident: thinking, puzzles, walking
    druth Vlodovic: you're a detective!
    Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
    Aphrodite Macbain: problem solver
    iwandertoo Resident: never thought of it this way
    iwandertoo Resident: no sherlock here
    Aphrodite Macbain: just a couplea Watsons
    iwandertoo Resident: systems thinker, convergence points...discovering them....correcting...changing the path
    iwandertoo Resident: lol
    Aphrodite Macbain: do you do mathematical puzzles?
    iwandertoo Resident: i'm not very good at maths
    iwandertoo Resident: like learning
    iwandertoo Resident: if i have the basic knowledge - yes
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes. do you do that for a living?
    iwandertoo Resident: process - yes
    Aphrodite Macbain: problem solving?
    iwandertoo Resident: yes
    Aphrodite Macbain: in computers
    iwandertoo Resident: business process, computer infrastructure as a tool
    Aphrodite Macbain: wow - an alien world to me
    Aphrodite Macbain: as a tool for what?
    iwandertoo Resident: a means to complete a process
    Aphrodite Macbain: can you give me an example?
    iwandertoo Resident: you have to complete a form...you could hand write it or enter it directly into Word (computer application)
    iwandertoo Resident: if you handwrite it...someone else would have to key it
    Aphrodite Macbain: right
    iwandertoo Resident: word is a tool...but it is not the process
    iwandertoo Resident: (in this example)
    iwandertoo Resident: business process - engagement of people with systems
    Aphrodite Macbain: ok
    iwandertoo Resident: did i answer the question?
    Aphrodite Macbain: and making those systems communicate with each other?
    iwandertoo Resident: yes
    Aphrodite Macbain: I think I get some of it
    iwandertoo Resident: :)

    Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Arch with a soccer ball!
    Aphrodite Macbain: that's not a soccer ball, that's a carp called Hikari!
    Archmage Atlantis: Hiya druth, Aph, Susan
    iwandertoo Resident: waves
    Archmage Atlantis: Yes, a koi


    Prunestones and peach cores

    Aphrodite Macbain: If I drop what I have to see who I am, I think I'd find nothing but some dried up prunestones

    iwandertoo Resident: but then you'd readjust your eyes and realize you're a great deal more

    Aphrodite Macbain: Thanks susan

    druth Vlodovic: hi arch

    druth Vlodovic: eh I decided a while back that I'm not a peach, I'm an onion, a combination of all things I am, if I peel back the layers to see what is underneath I'd be throwing away the treasure
    Archmage Atlantis: I had to give up my rl koi to keep them safe
    druth Vlodovic: safe?
    Archmage Atlantis: Some of our layers are peaches, luv
    Archmage Atlantis: Yes
    Archmage Atlantis: Safe
    Archmage Atlantis: The water here became full of bacteria
    Aphrodite Macbain: druth what a great thing to say. You are a peach with a peachstone that can grow more peach trees
    Archmage Atlantis: Not the good kind
    druth Vlodovic: ah, poor things
    druth Vlodovic: I'm an onion that tastes like many things, I hope some of them are peachlike :)
    iwandertoo Resident: :)
    Archmage Atlantis: Try vidalia onions and peaches, pickled together.....My greataunt would approve
    Aphrodite Macbain: is she a pickeler?
    Archmage Atlantis: Yes Aph, she was. She would be 130 now

    Archmage Atlantis: Either join us, Storm, or go away......I'm cranky today
    Aphrodite Macbain: where's storm?
    Aphrodite Macbain: and why are you cranky Arch?
    druth Vlodovic: wow, everybody is in a good mood
    Archmage Atlantis: I must go and interfere with a meditation
    Archmage Atlantis: Namaste
    druth Vlodovic: have fun arch
    Aphrodite Macbain: you are being obstreperous Arch
    Aphrodite Macbain: Namaste!
    druth Vlodovic: maybe it's sunspots, a beautiful day and my kids have been hammer and tongs for most of it
    druth Vlodovic: speaking of a beautiful day...
    druth Vlodovic: have a good one yourselves
    druth Vlodovic: and I hope the best for you aph
    Aphrodite Macbain: thanks druth. Enjoy your Saturday

    Fly like an eagle

    Aphrodite Macbain: Hi storm
    Storm Nordwind: Hi Aph!
    Aphrodite Macbain: How good to see you
    Storm Nordwind: You too :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: I'm feeling a little blue
    Storm Nordwind: Oh dear. :(
    Storm Nordwind: I'm so sorry to hear that
    Aphrodite Macbain: Thanks
    Aphrodite Macbain: Feel I should probably  go for a good long walk
    Aphrodite Macbain: around the seawall
    Storm Nordwind: Fresh air often does help, it's true
    Aphrodite Macbain: and see if I can find some eagles
    Storm Nordwind: You have one sitting next to you here of course :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: are you an eagle?
    Storm Nordwind: My name - Storm - is also my name in RL. Actually in RL my full first name is Stormerne - which means storm eagle in Old English and various Scandinavian languages
    Storm Nordwind: The erne is a sea eagle - and even the US bald eagle is an erne
    Aphrodite Macbain imagines Aphrodute being carried on the back of an eagle
    Storm Nordwind: The erne flies the steadiest in stormy weather I'm told! :)
    Storm Nordwind smiles broadly
    Aphrodite Macbain: That's what I need a steady eagle who can take me everywhere safely
    Aphrodite Macbain: security/adverture wrapped up into one
    Storm Nordwind: Until you can fly again yourself - as strongly and as beautifully as you have in the past :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: :-) yes. I'm only temporarily grounded
    Storm Nordwind: I hope so. It's wonderful to see you soar!
    Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
    Storm Nordwind: (but not so wonderful to see you sore)
    Aphrodite Macbain rubs her sore head and heart
    Aphrodite Macbain: I want to congratulate you on your molecule theatre
    Aphrodite Macbain: I am so impressed
    Storm Nordwind: That's very kind - thank you!
    Aphrodite Macbain: a labour of love methinks
    Storm Nordwind: My aim is to inspire others to have a go themselves
    Aphrodite Macbain: Yes - I'm definitly going tomorrow at noon
    Storm Nordwind: Oh good!. And yes - it has been a huge amount of work!
    Aphrodite Macbain: Have you done things that you haven't done before?
    Storm Nordwind: I have a presentation ready ... and a little surprise too!
    Aphrodite Macbain: oh goody
    Storm Nordwind: :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: love surprises
    Storm Nordwind: Yes - I've been learning new things in the building of the theater
    Aphrodite Macbain: what are you up to today? Taking a break from work?
    Aphrodite Macbain: what new things have you been learning


    Prepping for the Theatre presentation

    Storm Nordwind: Just checking the presentation. Now taking a break. I am doing a second one next week too, and I have to finish preparations for that next
    Aphrodite Macbain: so it wont simply be a repeat of the first?
    Storm Nordwind: No. The second one is quite different
    Storm Nordwind: The first one is all about set design - things that need to be considered that many people don't think about
    Aphrodite Macbain: Perhaps if I get into doing something like this it will take my mind of other things
    Storm Nordwind: The second will be how to use a rezzer system that will allow people to rez the sets they've designed and built
    Aphrodite Macbain: yowza
    Aphrodite Macbain: There will be sample set forms to start with?
    Storm Nordwind: It will all be straightforward, yes. And there will be lots of help available should you feel you need it
    Storm Nordwind: I've no doubt you'll be proud of what you can do very quickly!
    Aphrodite Macbain: I'm trying to imagine what set I would build and what I would use it for.  Form following function and all
    Storm Nordwind: Ah yes... we'll cover that tomorrow too
    Aphrodite Macbain: I am imagining a piazza in Italy with a sculpture in the middle of a foundtain around which I might dance...
    Storm Nordwind: How wonderful!
    Storm Nordwind: Very achievable
    Storm Nordwind: (Though please talk to Sunshine about the dance animations - that's her speciality!)
    Aphrodite Macbain: Is it? How would I make the sculpture?
    Storm Nordwind: What do you think would be most appropriate for a sculpture?
    Aphrodite Macbain: a tall male warrior in a toga and a beard
    Storm Nordwind: Oh!
    Aphrodite Macbain:giggles
    Storm Nordwind: hehe!
    Aphrodite Macbain: perhaps carrying my severed head
    Storm Nordwind: Well I encourage beginners to start with something simple - for lots of reasons.
    Storm Nordwind: So even a 2D picture of your warrior would work
    Aphrodite Macbain: well maybe I can work up to that
    Storm Nordwind: I'm sure it's doable
    Aphrodite Macbain: Perhaps I could draw it, then photograph it
    Aphrodite Macbain: and then figure out what to do with the photograph
    Storm Nordwind: Or take a photo from real life
    Aphrodite Macbain: :-P
    Aphrodite Macbain: sorry, I'm being silly - I'm just searching for some kind of act of exorcism
    Storm Nordwind: I understand.
    Storm Nordwind: Talking of photos I LOVE your new 1st Life profile photo!
    Aphrodite Macbain: Oh thanks. That was me about 10 yrs ago
    Storm Nordwind: Quite delightful :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
    Aphrodite Macbain: that's the one I send to my students; I teach a course on-line
    Storm Nordwind nods
    Aphrodite Macbain: Are you going to the September retreat ?
    Storm Nordwind: Vashon Island? Most certainly
    Storm Nordwind: Maxine has asked me to work with her on it - and I'm greatly honored to do so
    Aphrodite Macbain: Great! Me too. I'm so looking forward to it and to meeting you and the others
    Aphrodite Macbain: What kind of work will you be doing?
    Storm Nordwind: Did you read her latest email about it... I think it was yesterday?
    Aphrodite Macbain: I just glanced at it. I was too distracted to pay attention then
    Storm Nordwind: (or was it the day before - losing track of time!)
    Aphrodite Macbain: I'll check it out storm
    Storm Nordwind: I recommend you read a little when you can. It has a few more details about what we're planning
    Aphrodite Macbain: OK I will, I should go now and tend to RL duties
    Storm Nordwind: Take care dear friend!



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