2011.06.20 07:00 - More or Less Foggy Beings of Light

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Eden Haiku. The comments are by Eden Haiku. Joining her this morning: Eliza, Yakuzza, Bruce, SophiaSharon, Bleu, Observerm, Zen and , a bit later, Aphrodite looking very serene in her zen robes.
     
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    Aphrodite in her zen robes
     
    First day of Summer tomorrow
     
    Eliza Madrigal: Morning Eden! :)
     
    --BELL--
     
    Eden Haiku: Morning Eliza:-)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: good morning the two of you
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Yaku :)
    Eden Haiku: hello Yaku;-)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey bruce
    Eden Haiku: Midsummer is tomorrow ;-)
    Eliza Madrigal: Morning Bruce :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: it´s friday
    Eden Haiku: Good morning Bruce
    Eliza Madrigal: ah, my calendar says "First day of Summer" tomorrow
    Bruce Mowbray: Good morning, Yaku and Eden!
    Eden Haiku: Friday? I thought it was the 21st at 1h16 pm EST time?
    Bruce Mowbray: Good morning, Eliza!
    Yakuzza Lethecus: well, ur right
    Eliza Madrigal: Interesting shirt, Bruce "emergence"
    Yakuzza Lethecus: somehow in sweden it´s celebrated friday
    Eden Haiku: You were thinking of St-John maybe Yaku?
    Bruce Mowbray: Thanks -- I made it months ago --
    Bruce Mowbray: Now I wish I'd written, "Emergence happens."
    Eden Haiku: St-John-the-Baptist day is our "national" holiday in Quebec
    Eliza Madrigal: ;-) Bruce
    Yakuzza Lethecus: well on friday there is a holiday in sweden for midsommar so i will fly on thursday
    Eliza Madrigal: Yaku is synched with Sweden :))
    Eden Haiku: Ah, you are going to meet your girlfriend, how nice Yak!
    Eliza Madrigal: yes very nice
    Eden Haiku: synched with Sweden, yes, a nice way
    Yakuzza Lethecus: that´s why i was initially so sure about friday, but never actually checked if it was meteologically true
    Eden Haiku: way to see that ;-)
     
    Midnight moon dances
     
    Eden Haiku: I think solstice day and St-John (Midsummer) are closed but different.
    Eden Haiku: It all goes back to pagan solar practices
    Eden Haiku: But tomorrow is the longest day of the year ;-)
    Eliza Madrigal: Will you attend midnight moon dances Eden?
    Eden Haiku: hehe
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eden Haiku: I might...
    Eden Haiku: You?
    Eliza Madrigal: you know, I actually have friends who do such wild things...
    Eden Haiku: I will be in Tadoussac then and we have night meditations on the dunes.
    Eden Haiku: With traditional bonfires I guess ;-)
    Eliza Madrigal: but I've not joined them yet, some day.... have danced in a circle in a living room before
    Eliza Madrigal: hehe
    Bruce Mowbray: I have a friend in Anchorage, Alaksa who attend a midnight baseball game (with no outdoor lighting except the sun) every June 21st.
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, sounds *marvelous*
    Eden Haiku: a circle in a living room is a start ;-)
    Eliza Madrigal: ooooo Bruce
    Eden Haiku: Yes, looking forward to this short trip ;-)
    Eliza Madrigal: very field of dreams :)
    Eliza Madrigal: both images, actually
    Eden Haiku: Midnight sun in Alaska, wow, I didn't know that.
    Eliza Madrigal: sounds like a novel title
    Eden Haiku: "Midnight sun in Alaska", yes it does have a ring to it...
    Bruce Mowbray: Alaska's slogan is "The Land of the Midnight Sun"
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: good morning :) long time no see
    Eliza Madrigal: Morning Sharon :))
    Eden Haiku: Really Bruce, how nice ;-)
    Bruce Mowbray: Hey, Sharon -- good to see you again.
    Eden Haiku: Morning Sharon!
    Eliza Madrigal: you are very sleek this morning Sharon, nice look
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ha thanks :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey sophia
     
    Focusing on light
     
    Eden Haiku: Does anyone have an image to focus on for the upcoming 90 seconds pause?
    Eliza Madrigal: nice idea
    Eden Haiku: Maybe "light" in all forms, in our experience?
    Eliza Madrigal: Sure!
    Eden Haiku: Woke up early this morning and the sun was golden through the curtains.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Bleu Oleander: hi everyone :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Bleu
    Eden Haiku: Hi Bleu! We are going to focus on "light" at the pause.
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Bleu :)
    Bleu Oleander: nice
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Bruce Mowbray: "light" is excellent -- especially on the day preceding the longest "day" of the year.
    Bruce Mowbray: Hey, Bleu.
    Eden Haiku: ;-)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: morning bleu
     
    --BELL--
     
    Eden Haiku: Anyone would like to share what came up?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Observerm
    Eliza Madrigal waves to Obs :)
    Eden Haiku: Hello Observerm
    observerm Resident waves
    Eden Haiku: He's standing in the light ;-)
    Eliza Madrigal: hmm, that there is a soft light in my living room this morning, and a funny conversation I had with someone in which I said the days were getting shorter (because here in the afternoon it gets dark w storms or threats of storms)
    Eden Haiku: Welcome at the fountain Observerm ;-)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Eliza :) why funny?
    Bruce Mowbray: Welcome, Observerm!
    Eden Haiku: Oh, how interesting Eliza: your perception shifted with the storms...
    Eliza Madrigal: Well, because I was talking just from my perspective, which was wrong, but right in its way, hah
    Eliza Madrigal: an artistic view perhaps
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Bleu Oleander: that happens in Arizona too in the monsoon season
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Eden Haiku: Exactly: both right and wrong ;)
    Eliza Madrigal: which way do you light it?
    Eden Haiku: You have monsoon in Arizona? Wow!
    Bleu Oleander: yes!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I was thinking the same thing Eden!
    Eliza Madrigal: you and I endure similar Summers Bleu, with regard to unbearable heat
    Bleu Oleander: dark skys give the appearance of shortening the day
    Eliza Madrigal: yes
     
    Monsoon in Arizona and drippings of light
     
    Eden Haiku: Wow: midnight sun in Alaska, monsoon in Arizona and shorter days at the solstice in Florida...
    Eliza Madrigal: What a world!
    Bleu Oleander: here it's in August
    Bleu Oleander: love that time of year
    Eden Haiku: USA is a land of unexpected marvels ;-)
    Eliza Madrigal: yes?
    Bleu Oleander: beautiful skys and sunsets
    Eliza Madrigal: ah :)
    Bleu Oleander: tres dramatique!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: can imagine the dryness sucking up the moisture
    Eden Haiku: How hot does it get in Arizona and Florida during the summer?
    Bleu Oleander: we get to 115
    SophiaSharon Larnia: gah
    Eden Haiku: NO!!!
    Eliza Madrigal: "don't want to walk to the mailbox" hot... but not *115!
    Bleu Oleander: exactly
    Eden Haiku: Desert heat!!!
    Eliza Madrigal: We usually have a breeze, thankfully
    Eden Haiku: And the ocean...
    Bleu Oleander: no ocean breeze here
    Bleu Oleander: breeze off the pool maybe hehe
    Eliza Madrigal: yes, though due to ways of construction in some areas it is hotter than it should be.
    Eliza Madrigal: little shelter wide highways
    Eden Haiku: Ah too many cars...
    Bleu Oleander: too much concrete and too many cars/pavement
    Eden Haiku: We need trees, flowers and rivers!!!
    Eden Haiku: Was walking my Dad's dog this morning in the alley
    Eliza Madrigal: yes, the thing about waking up from dreams like 'endless growth' is that it takes a while to undo :)
    Eliza Madrigal listens
    Eden Haiku: Contempalting the light dripping in the gardens of my neighbors
    Eliza Madrigal: mmmm light dripping.... mmmm
    Eden Haiku: On the flower beds and the little bird baths
    Eden Haiku: and then the blue light in the eyes of the baby next door
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hypnotizing image :)
    Eden Haiku: 9 months old, so cute!!!
     
     
    Using light & water to create a painting
     
    Bleu Oleander: has anyone seen The Tree of Life movie?
    Bleu Oleander: beautiful use of light
    Eden Haiku: Not yet, but I want to see it!
    Eliza Madrigal: I wanted to see it this weekend Bleu... have to do a bit of driving
    Eliza Madrigal: would be great if it opens closer
    Bleu Oleander: uses light and water to create a beautiful painting
    Eliza Madrigal: 'blue light in the eyes of the baby next door'
    Eden Haiku: you are working on that piece now Bleu?
    Bleu Oleander: me?
    Bleu Oleander: would be nice
    Eden Haiku: Oh no, you meant the movie I see...
    Bleu Oleander: yes, the film's director
    Eden Haiku: Would love to see a painting with light and water ;-)
    Bleu Oleander: but might be a good "being performance" piece
    Eden Haiku: yepp!!!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Zen :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: (speaking of which, can someone drop the landmark for the molecular theater on me?)
    Bleu Oleander: hi Zen
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Zen
    Eden Haiku: Not sure I will have one ready for July 31st Bleu,. That seems so close ;-)
    Eliza Madrigal: Sure, and also the balloon will take you right there :))
    Eden Haiku: Hi Bleu ;-)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oh yes I forgot, thank you Eliza
    Eden Haiku: Hi Zen I meant ;-)
    Eliza Madrigal: ah, wait I don't have a current LM
    Bleu Oleander: take the small balloon ride
    SophiaSharon Larnia: thank you !
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oh
    Bruce Mowbray: Hey, Zen.
    Bleu Oleander: really nice
    Zen Arado: Hi All :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ok :))
     
    --BELL--
     
    Eliza Madrigal: Storm made a new one with nice pic
    Eliza Madrigal: Thanks, Bleu!
    Bleu Oleander: yw!
    Bleu Oleander: anyone else need a LM?
    Eden Haiku: Yes please;-)
    Eden Haiku: Thank you @Bleu
    Bleu Oleander: yw!
     
    A chrysalis of fog
     
    Eliza Madrigal: Woke this morning with a feeling to 'rededicate' myself
    Eden Haiku: Observerm is falling asleep ;-)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: question, is the theater open to everyone, or just guardians (landmark wise)
    Eliza Madrigal: suppose that is a kind of light
    Bleu Oleander listens to Eliza
    Eliza Madrigal: :) Obs fell asleep and Bruce blinked out of existence
    Bleu Oleander: theater is open for all to tour
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ok thx Bleu
    Bleu Oleander: headset tour there
    Eden Haiku: Oh Eliza "rededicate", seeing your task in a new light?
    Eliza Madrigal: yes, I've been in a kind of strange place for a few months
    Eden Haiku: tell us more?
    Eliza Madrigal: with routines all knocked around, and not quite as clear
    Bleu Oleander is always in a stange place, but feels comfortable there :)
    Eliza Madrigal: hehhe
    Eliza Madrigal: yes I wouldn't want to shake it entirely
    Eliza Madrigal: it is creative
    Eden Haiku: listens
    Zen Arado: nothing is stranger than SL
    SophiaSharon Larnia feels uncomfortable in routines
    Eliza Madrigal: but at the same time, I've not been taking very good care of myself in some ways
    Eliza Madrigal: due to that sort of fog
    Bleu Oleander: SL seems normal compared to RL
    Eliza Madrigal: less walking and eating well, etc
    Eliza Madrigal: less longer meditations, which I actually love
    SophiaSharon Larnia: haha Bleu, that it does sometimes, oddly enough
    Zen Arado: 'normal' hmm
    Eliza Madrigal: SO true Bleu! :D
    Eden Haiku: ah, so easy to slip back to taking better care of others than oneself isn'it Eliza?
    Eliza Madrigal: indeed
    Eliza Madrigal: that is part of it
    Bleu Oleander: so much control in SL .... not so in RL
    Eden Haiku: I do that too ;-)
    Eliza Madrigal: and also part of it is just not having a kind of gift of clearness
    Eliza Madrigal: can't 'make that up'
    Eliza Madrigal: so have been sort of waiting/allowing
    Eden Haiku: And then one day, the light clears it all up!
    Eliza Madrigal: this morning felt, hm, yes! Light
    Eden Haiku: Great!
    Eliza Madrigal: thanks, nice to share, you all and PaB are a big aspect of that
    Eden Haiku: It happened to me too, right before I decided to go to Egypt.
    Eliza Madrigal: yes? and now?
    Eden Haiku: After having been in a fog for almost a year ;-)
    Bleu Oleander: Egypt ... there's a place that will jumpstart a rededication!
    Eliza Madrigal: mmmmm
    Eden Haiku: Now, the fog has vanished ;-)
    Eliza Madrigal: wonderful wonderful
    Eden Haiku: Yes, it confirmed the rededication yes!
    Eliza Madrigal: the fog has its own gifts too
    Bleu Oleander: I feel it's effects even now .. more than 20 years later
    Eden Haiku: Yes, it's wonderful isn't Eliza. And it happens to you right before the solstice?
    Eden Haiku: Yes, true, the fog is like a chrysalis maybe?
    Eden Haiku: Nurturing the future butterfly?
     
    Natural shifts and undercurrents
     
    Eliza Madrigal: I do wonder how much of this sort of thing is due to natural shifts and undercurrents
    Eliza Madrigal: mm, yes nice way of seeing Eden
    Eden Haiku: And collective energies and cosmic rays and telluric moves...
    Zen Arado: I'm in a perpetual fog
    Eden Haiku: You are Zen ?
    Eden Haiku: With such a sharp mind?
    Zen Arado: you think?
    Zen Arado: ppl are so nice here
    Eden Haiku: I'm sure
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Zen Arado: I looked at Storm's 'easy' instructions this morning
    Eden Haiku: But sharp minds can experience fogs once in a while, I wonder what makes you think it's perpetual?
    Zen Arado: felt so incompetent
    SophiaSharon Larnia: sometimes all one can do is make peace with your foggy self
    Eliza Madrigal: hmmm
    Eliza Madrigal: indeed
    Eden Haiku: It did that to me too Zen ;-( Felt incompetent...
    Eliza Madrigal: Hello Aphrodite, you look wonderful :)
    Bleu Oleander: yes, me too!
    Eliza Madrigal: I knew it would, so haven't looked yet
     
    Aphrodite arrives, wearing beautiful zen robes in which she looks as serene as she would like to be
     
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Aphrodite
    Eliza Madrigal: hehehe
    Bleu Oleander: hey Aph
    Yakuzza Lethecus: morning aph
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hello
     
    --BELL--
     
    Aphrodite Macbain: Thank you.
    Aphrodite Macbain: I bought this at the tour of costumes yesterday
    Bleu Oleander: ah nice Aph
    Aphrodite Macbain: makes me feel very spiritual!
    Aphrodite Macbain: calm
    Bleu Oleander: your presence makes the group feel that way also
    Aphrodite Macbain: awww
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eden Haiku: It's lovely Aph!
    Zen Arado: it's a zen robe?
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes
    Aphrodite Macbain: I believe so
    Eliza Madrigal: Will the links be posted in the Art History wiki? I would have loved to attend
    Zen Arado: never seen one like that
    Eliza Madrigal: the blue is very peaceful
    Bleu Oleander partial to blue
    Eliza Madrigal: When I wear my zen robes I feel different for sure
    Zen Arado: they wear all black robes for novices where I go
    Zen Arado: brown for teacher
    Eliza Madrigal: hehe Bleu ;-) We are partial to bleu too
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: I dont know but ask Adams, he/she'll know
    Bleu Oleander: hehe
     
    Foggy and ponderous beings of light
     
    Zen Arado: I got lost on that tour
    Zen Arado: cos I'm too foggy
    Eliza Madrigal: hehehe
    Eden Haiku: Oh you did, what happened Zen?
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes, you have to move quickly and not stand and ponder
    Zen Arado: I lost the notecard he gave us
    Eden Haiku: Ah yes..
    Aphrodite Macbain: that would make all the difference
    Eliza Madrigal: foggy and ponderous
    Aphrodite Macbain: hehe
    SophiaSharon Larnia: what a combination
    Eden Haiku: Would have like to go but had to walk the dog in RL...
    Aphrodite Macbain: is that how you feel today?
    Zen Arado: didn't say ponderous
    Eden Haiku: "Foggy and ponderous" hehe @Eliza
    Zen Arado: light and foggy
    Aphrodite Macbain: sounds like the weather in Vancouver
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :) haha
    Eden Haiku: "light and foggy..."
    Zen Arado: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: feel 'light of heart' ala Eden, today, in part due to accepting the fog ala Sharon ;-)
    Eden Haiku: sounds like a possible haiku...
    Aphrodite Macbain: alalalala
    Eliza Madrigal giggles
    Eden Haiku: alalaalala
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :D
    Eden Haiku: giggles too
    Aphrodite Macbain smiles serenely
    SophiaSharon Larnia: grins
    Eden Haiku: very spiritual indeed Aph ;-)
    Zen Arado: you have to face the wall and meditate now Aph
    Bleu Oleander: have to leave all you beings of light ... foggy or otherwise .... take care :)
    Zen Arado: bye Bleu
    SophiaSharon Larnia: or gaze at your navel
    Bleu Oleander: bye bye
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Bleu :)
    Eden Haiku: Bye Bleu :-)
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye Bleu :)
    Zen Arado: no no Sharon...
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bye
    Aphrodite Macbain: oh dear, Bye! blue, good to see you briefly
    Zen Arado: :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: no?
    Zen Arado: the wall
    Aphrodite Macbain: nonosharon?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: smiles
    Eden Haiku: I like being called "being of light" like Bleu just did, don't you?
    Aphrodite Macbain: why the wall Zen?
    Eliza Madrigal: loves the word for navel gazing: Omphaloskepsis 
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i was joking, but I think that expression is funny
    Zen Arado: takes away distractions
    Aphrodite Macbain: something to do with a belly button
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oh look, lint
    Aphrodite Macbain: ah. I just face downward
    Eliza Madrigal: I do like that @ Eden :) light being
    Aphrodite Macbain: being light
    Eden Haiku: lint in belly buttons?
    Aphrodite Macbain: /h
    SophiaSharon Larnia: shrugs :)
    Eliza Madrigal: may be easier to gaze if you have an outie
    Aphrodite Macbain: hahahsharon
    Zen Arado: well it can be a bit pejorative ...how ppl who don't meditate see it..as a waste of time....I think
     
    Despite her new serene looks, Aph starts losing her composure...( she emits a bubbly baby laugh!!!) 
     
    Eden Haiku: Foggy and ponderous beings of light facing the wall and looking at the lint in their belly buttons...
    Aphrodite Macbain giggles
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes Zen
    Eliza Madrigal: hahah
    Aphrodite Macbain: oops lost my composure
    Zen Arado: you have to set an example now Aph
    Aphrodite Macbain: wasn't focussing on the lint enough
    Eden Haiku: not a zen laugh Aph ;-( You are getting chastised with the rod!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: haha
    SophiaSharon Larnia: to Aph)
    Aphrodite Macbain: OMG not the rod!
    Zen Arado: no a big stick
    Eden Haiku: Yes, the rod!!!
    Aphrodite Macbain: always carry one+a smile
    Eliza Madrigal: It is to keep one 'alert'
    Eden Haiku: Did you ever get that Zen?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: welcome back Bruce
    Zen Arado: no but seen it used
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hello dear Bruce
    Zen Arado: you have to ask for it
    Zen Arado: wb Bruce
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes, why is it used zen?
    Zen Arado: it is for waking you up
    Eden Haiku: In India, once, a swami gave us a taste of it during meditation... It was not zen meditation though...
    Bruce Mowbray: ty -- I got knock off-line for a few minutes...
    Eden Haiku: but we were all falling asleep...
    Aphrodite Macbain: is it to wake you up into the moment?
    Bruce Mowbray: afk -- phone in RL ringing.
    Zen Arado: when you get drowsy meditating
    Eliza Madrigal: Tibetan meditators have a similar idea, because one can get to a place in meditation where they are happily 'away'
    Eliza Madrigal: but it isn't a physical stick
    Aphrodite Macbain: ah. there must be better ways - like bells
    SophiaSharon Larnia: what is it, Eliza?
    Aphrodite Macbain: oh it isn't physical?
    Eliza Madrigal: sometimes it is a syllable
    Eden Haiku: like bells yes ;-)
    Zen Arado: it doesn't hurt
    Eliza Madrigal: yes or bell
    Aphrodite Macbain: ah. that sounds less draconian
    Zen Arado: they hit you between the shoulder blades
    Aphrodite Macbain: with the bell?
    Zen Arado: it energizes you
    Eden Haiku: Right, it doesn't hurt.
    Eliza Madrigal: the thing is the meditator doesn't notice they are 'away'
    Aphrodite Macbain: does it make a "thwach"
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I'm beaten down enough, I couldnt tolerate that well
    Aphrodite Macbain: thwak
    Eden Haiku: Hurts only the ego because you have been caught getting "away",,,
    Eliza Madrigal: yes I don't think I'd like that either
    Eliza Madrigal: physically hit, etc
    Zen Arado: you don't get unless you ask
    Eliza Madrigal: but that someone else helps enough to wake you is a gift
    Aphrodite Macbain: awww (((Sophia)))
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes, but there are many ways of doing that, i hope
    Eliza Madrigal: yes indeed
    Eden Haiku: gentle bells
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I didnt mean for the sympathy, just saying :)
    Eden Haiku: syllables...
    Aphrodite Macbain: If you ask it means you're awake enough to ask
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Well at different times in our lives we may ask for different things
    Zen Arado: yeh it's easy to space out
    Eden Haiku: I'm amazed at the curves the topics can take in our conversations...
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes. I need cheer right now
    Eden Haiku: Meandering from light to zen...
    Eliza Madrigal: :::Tickles Aph:::::
     
    --BELL--
     
    Facing a wall
     
    Aphrodite Macbain: cheer to rise above the foggy drift
    Aphrodite Macbain giggles
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ~~Aphrodite~~ :)
    Eliza Madrigal: I was inspired by the way, post-retreat, Zen talked about the light on the wall changing.... how it sounds so mundane to sit facing a wall... but there are infinite distintions
    Zen Arado: 
              A foggy Zen/
              in Play as being/
              has got me thwacked
     
    Eden Haiku: Would you like to share about what makes you sad Aph?
    Eliza Madrigal: hahah sharp Zen
    Eden Haiku: **********Applause!!**********
    Eden Haiku: **********Applause!!**********
    Zen Arado: bows humbly
    SophiaSharon Larnia: great, Zen
    Eden Haiku: Great haiku Zen!
    Aphrodite Macbain: not sure. Perhaps just that I've encountered a loss of a dear friend'
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oh Aphrodite, I'm so sorry
    Eliza Madrigal: :(
    Eden Haiku: Oh, sorry to hear that..
    Aphrodite Macbain: trying to find something to fill that hole.
    Zen Arado: one of the curses of old age
    Zen Arado: (older age)
    Aphrodite Macbain: the person hasn't died, just left
    Eliza Madrigal: very hard, Aph
    Zen Arado: oh
     
    Filling a hole
     
    Eliza Madrigal: one thing I realized recently in a situation is that by trying to fill a hole left in my life by someone, I did a disservice to someone else... trying to put them in there
    Zen Arado: yeh
    Zen Arado: rebound effect?
    Bruce Mowbray: Good point, Eliza.
    Eliza Madrigal: how strange that I couldnt see it
    Aphrodite Macbain: hmmm interesting. person would be impossible to replace anyway
    Eliza Madrigal: yes I think so, we're amazing creatures the way we hide things from ourselves
    Eden Haiku: Love is blind...
    Eliza Madrigal: yes exactly
    Eliza Madrigal: everyone is precious and unique
    Zen Arado: is there really a hole or do we make it?
    Aphrodite Macbain: and very permanent feeling -
    Aphrodite Macbain: another attachment I guess
    Eliza Madrigal: well we can celebrate that we have encountered the closeness that allows us feel loss
    Eliza Madrigal: not to sound too lofty
     
    Gates 
     
    Bruce Mowbray: There are "gates" in every experience -- happy or sad - through which we can pass into greater appreciation and awareness.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i agree with that Bruce
    Eliza Madrigal: mmmmm, yes
    Zen Arado: yes...nothing is permanent
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes, a gate that moves inwards and outwards
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh, aph, beautiful!
    Aphrodite Macbain: I find that being with you helps enormously
    Bruce Mowbray: gates that move infinitely in all directions.
    Eliza Madrigal: 'swinging door'
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes
    Zen Arado: we think we control the gate
    Aphrodite Macbain: breathe in breathe out
    Zen Arado: should leave it open
    Eden Haiku: Lovely images; gates, swinging door...
    Bruce Mowbray: and all the while, treat YOURSELF with tenderness and loving-kindness.
    Eliza Madrigal: and light pouring through windows and over gardens
    Zen Arado: yes Bruce
    Aphrodite Macbain: right Zen. but change is the only constant
    Zen Arado: funny how we forget that one
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Bruce Mowbray: Change can be our best friend ----
    Eden Haiku: nice wrap Eliza:-) light, fog, zen, gates, swinging door ;-))
    Aphrodite Macbain: letting go is hard when one lets go of a loved one
    Zen Arado: the gateless gate..
    Bruce Mowbray: as Time continually offers new opportunities for appreciation. . .
    Eliza Madrigal smiles
    Bruce Mowbray smiles back at everyone.
    Aphrodite Macbain tries to smile serenely
     
    Eliza gives the departure signal: one by one, the more or less foggy "beings of light" leave the foutain...
     
    Eliza Madrigal: beautiful morning, thank you Eden and everyone
    Bruce Mowbray: Your grief -- and all the other so-called "negative" emotions related to this "loss" -- are also gates, every one of them.
    Eden Haiku: You avatar seems pretty serene in her zen robes Aph. ;-)
    Eden Haiku: Thanks to you Eliza ;-)
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes, thanks. she tries her best!
    Zen Arado: I wear a rakusu at retreats
    Aphrodite Macbain: Thanks Eliza for your kind words
    Eliza Madrigal: Bruce, we need that on a banner please ;-)
    Eden Haiku: Have a great wonderful before-the-solstice day Eliza :-))
    Aphrodite Macbain: what's a rakusu
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bye
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bye! Eliza
    Eden Haiku: Bye dearest Eliza ;-)))
    Eliza Madrigal: Appreciate you all, be well and happy
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Eliza
    Eliza Madrigal waves
    Zen Arado: bye Eliza
    Zen Arado: you have to sew it yourself
    Zen Arado: takes ages
    Bruce Mowbray: Bye, Eliza.
    Eden Haiku: Oh, it's beautiful!
    Zen Arado: and then the teacher writes your Japanese names on the back
    SophiaSharon Larnia: looks the web
    Zen Arado: you receive it in a ceremony called Jukai
    Zen Arado: and you 'take the precepts'
    Eden Haiku: reading on Wikipedia...
    Eden Haiku: but I like it when it's told by you Zen.
    Eden Haiku: Does it mean you are ordained?
    Bruce Mowbray: Thanks everyone.
    Zen Arado: it's a kind of lay ordination
    Aphrodite Macbain: must be off to face the ponderous grey! Love to all
    Eden Haiku: Bye Bruce;-)
    Zen Arado: bye Aph
    Bruce Mowbray: Gotta move along now.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Zen, how wonderful
    Zen Arado: bye Bruce
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Bruce
     
    --BELL--
     
    Eden Haiku: Bye Aph, take care ;-)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Aphrodite
    Zen Arado: better go too
    Zen Arado: bye all
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Zen
    Eden Haiku: Bye Zen:_) Have a good day/evening!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I have to go too, have a great rest of the day Eden And Yaku :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: bye
    Eden Haiku: You too Sharon ;-)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i am also logging out, was more in skype then here
    Yakuzza Lethecus: cya soon eden
    Eden Haiku: Wishing you a wonderful Midsummer in Sweden Yaku
    Yakuzza Lethecus: thx, i will
    Eden Haiku: Bye!
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