2011.06.23 13:00 - scooter - weeeeh

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Lia Rikugun. The comments are by Lia Rikugun.

    FcSeeker Resident: Hello Lia
    Lia Rikugun: Hi FcSeeker :)
    Lia Rikugun: how are you doing?
    FcSeeker Resident: still listening
    FcSeeker Resident: how are you ?
    Lia Rikugun: listening to what?
    Lia Rikugun: hi Qt
    FcSeeker Resident: Hello Qt
    Qt Core: Hi all!
    Lia Rikugun: hi dash
    Dash Earthboy: hey y'all
    FcSeeker Resident: Hello Dash
    Lia Rikugun: FcSeeker sorry if I ask, but have you been here before, or should I introduce you to PaB?
    Dash Earthboy: 's up?
    FcSeeker Resident: many things around here Lia
    FcSeeker Resident: yes I have
    Lia Rikugun: sorry, I am bad with names :)
    Dash Earthboy: Fc's a vet at PaB
    Dash Earthboy: :)
    FcSeeker Resident: :)


    dogs as guardians in a dream?

    Lia Rikugun: may I tell you something which fascinated me
    Dash Earthboy: yes pls
    FcSeeker Resident: please
    Qt Core: sure
    Lia Rikugun: a friend of mine had a surjery recently
    Lia Rikugun: and she told me today
    Lia Rikugun: that during the anestisia she was playing with a lot of dogs
    Lia Rikugun: when she woke up after 5 hours
    Lia Rikugun: shestill had this good feeling with her
    FcSeeker Resident: so nice experience
    Lia Rikugun: this fascinated me
    FcSeeker Resident: thank you for sharing
    Dash Earthboy: i'm a firm believer in pet therapy :)
    FcSeeker Resident: never thought that as the therapy
    Lia Rikugun: somehow I think the unconscious wants to distract her
    FcSeeker Resident: but now that you said so
    Lia Rikugun: *wanted
    FcSeeker Resident: I agree completely
    Lia Rikugun: but then what is the unconscious
    FcSeeker Resident: may I say how I saw her experience ?
    Lia Rikugun: yes please
    FcSeeker Resident: that she's got many genuine friends who was helping her during the surjery
    Lia Rikugun: hm
    Dash Earthboy: so if i'm your friend you say "You're my dog"?
    FcSeeker Resident: and they appeared in the form of the dog that she wouldn't get quilty feelings that she'd bothered her friends
    Lia Rikugun: friends in reality?
    FcSeeker Resident: when one is under anestesia, it's kind of the dream phrase
    Lia Rikugun: like I am her friend?
    FcSeeker Resident: and loyalty appears in the form of the dog
    Lia Rikugun: or dream friends?
    Dash Earthboy: lots of assumptions there huh?
    Dash Earthboy: but dream interpretation isn't a science now is it?
    FcSeeker Resident: so it dont tell anybody to be the dog to her but true friend
    Lia Rikugun: I think the idea is interesting
    FcSeeker Resident: I think that it is an opinion if it is science or not...
    Dash Earthboy: especially since we know so little of your friend Lia :)
    Lia Rikugun: thats true maybe we shouldnt start to interpret
    Lia Rikugun: just a nice experience
    Lia Rikugun: but I definitly need to think about what you said FcSeeker
    FcSeeker Resident: Hello Wol
    Lia Rikugun: hello wol
    Dash Earthboy: hey wol!
    Wol Euler: hello lia, dash, fc, qt
    Qt Core: Hi Wol


    the healing feeling friends can give you

    Lia Rikugun: it is crazy how a day with your friends can change your feelings
    Dash Earthboy: :)
    Wol Euler: how so?
    Dash Earthboy: how do you feel now Lia?
    Lia Rikugun: i somehow feel much more in the middle of myself
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Wol Euler: good.
    Lia Rikugun: after having been with them
    Lia Rikugun: much more connected to me
    Lia Rikugun: it sounds weird
    Lia Rikugun: but no better explanation :)
    FcSeeker Resident: maybe her love for you and your love for her strengthened you also
    FcSeeker Resident: to feel more what you need to feel
    Lia Rikugun: yes i think its fascinating
    Wol Euler nods.
    Wol Euler: sounds in any case as thought it was very good for you
    Wol Euler: for whatever reason
    Lia Rikugun: yes definitely :)
    Lia Rikugun: sorry what would you like to talk about?
    Dash Earthboy: Fc may have something for us to discuss?
    FcSeeker Resident: have no idea


    words having different meanigs for different cultures

    Dash Earthboy: about finding words to say what one means?
    Lia Rikugun: haha
    Lia Rikugun: maybe there are no words just feelings
    Dash Earthboy: i just had a event where i tried to describe how confusing "horse's ass" might be
    Lia Rikugun: what does it mean?
    Wol Euler chuckles.
    Dash Earthboy: well it's a label i often receive...
    Wol Euler: oh dear :)
    Dash Earthboy: and i was thinking about verbatim translations being confusing
    Lia Rikugun: the ass of a horse?
    Lia Rikugun: or is there another meaning?
    Wol Euler: literally, yes; a deliberate insult
    Dash Earthboy: when a culture doesn't have conceptual synchronicity
    Wol Euler: Trottel is close
    Dash Earthboy: hang on friends
    Wol Euler nods.
    Lia Rikugun: horse's ass means being dumb?
    Dash Earthboy: so what if your culture, like the one Jesus was in, only knew of horses and asses as beasts of burden?
    Wol Euler: to me it always has a flavour of "dumb" yes,
    Dash Earthboy: a verbatim translation of "horse's ass" to them wouldn't make much sense
    Wol Euler: interesting...
    Dash Earthboy: so they might translate "horse's ass" as "horse's sservant"
    Lia Rikugun: ah
    Dash Earthboy: which is not what people mean about me
    Dash Earthboy: :)
    Lia Rikugun: why would someone call you horses ass?
    Qt Core: i'm thinking about the awful translation of technical manuals i saw in the years... i never buy translated manuals anymore)
    FcSeeker Resident: please exuse me
    Lia Rikugun: welcome back fcseeker
    Dash Earthboy: we seriously need cultural reference points to understand translations of ancient texts (ie, more than 10 years old) :)
    FcSeeker Resident: sorry I had to drop by somewhere
    FcSeeker Resident: ty
    Qt Core: speaking tp from euro adopters, how many of us stil say something like "i have no one " to say i have no money ? children wopuld not really get it anymore
    Dash Earthboy: good example Qt
    Qt Core: (but i'm rich in spelling errors)
    Wol Euler: hehehe
    Lia Rikugun: hehe
    Dash Earthboy: i'm in that club too
    Lia Rikugun: hi electraSerrano
    ElectraSerrano Resident: hi all
    Lia Rikugun: nice to meet you
    Wol Euler: welcome back, electra, nice to see you again
    Qt Core: hi electraSerrano
    Dash Earthboy: hi electra
    FcSeeker Resident: Hello Electra


    8 exercises for our brains...

    Dash Earthboy: i hear there are 8 really good exercises for our brains :)
    Lia Rikugun: exercises for what?
    Wol Euler: mm?
    Dash Earthboy: number 2 is "talk to others"
    Lia Rikugun: what do you exercise with these?
    Qt Core: (hoping number 1 is listen others ;-)
    Dash Earthboy: your Brain
    Lia Rikugun: yes but what?
    FcSeeker Resident: would you like to share the whole list ?
    Dash Earthboy: exercise for brain may help prevent old age forgetfulness
    Lia Rikugun: (yes sorry, :)
    FcSeeker Resident: Hello arabella
    Qt Core: hi Ara!
    Lia Rikugun: so exercise against alzheimers for example ok
    Dash Earthboy: yah Qt I think they meant "talk with others"
    Lia Rikugun: hello ara
    arabella Ella: Hiya!
    Dash Earthboy: hey ara
    Lia Rikugun: ok what are the other 9 dash?
    Dash Earthboy: number 8 is "smile"
    arabella Ella smiles
    Lia Rikugun: haha you directly set it into practice ara
    Dash Earthboy: number 7 is practice reasoning
    arabella Ella: that was my intntion :)
    Dash Earthboy: number 6 is "consciously relax"
    arabella Ella: sorry to say this but brain exercise does not help against dementia
    Dash Earthboy: heheh ara
    arabella Ella: it is a myth
    Dash Earthboy: does anything?
    arabella Ella: no nothing helps except avoidance of trauma
    Dash Earthboy: bubble wrap your life?
    arabella Ella: imposs
    Dash Earthboy: number 5 is "yawning"
    Lia Rikugun: but now what do I exercise with this list of 10 things?
    arabella Ella: /m is yawning over and over again
    Lia Rikugun: mindfulness?
    Dash Earthboy: number 4 is "meditating"
    Dash Earthboy: only 8 things on the list Lia
    Lia Rikugun: oh 8 ok
    Dash Earthboy: exeercises for the brain
    Dash Earthboy: it's from a doctor Andrew Newberg
    Lia Rikugun: sorry but can you explain more, I dont understand what the exercises do to the brain
    Dash Earthboy: number 3 is "physical exercise"
    arabella Ella: the probably regulate the neurons and electric and chemical impulses in the brain the way i understand it
    arabella Ella: both relax and activate
    Dash Earthboy: my notes on the list is that it helps keep brains healthier
    arabella Ella: aristotle's golden mean
    arabella Ella: balance
    arabella Ella: moderation
    Dash Earthboy: those are good principles to live by :)
    Lia Rikugun: yes definitely
    arabella Ella: who is yawning here?
    Dash Earthboy: somebody practicing these brain exercises?
    arabella Ella: possibly i definitly heard a loud yawn
    Lia Rikugun: do you do these exercises dash?
    Lia Rikugun: I mean actively?
    Dash Earthboy: pretty much altho i just came across this article
    arabella Ella: do u find any one in particular more effective?
    Lia Rikugun: Neurotheology, thats interesting
    Dash Earthboy: i've dealt with Alzheimers patients and other such mental disabilities for years now
    Lia Rikugun: Thats andrew newbeergs book
    Dash Earthboy: yes Lia
    arabella Ella: do you find that anything works for alzheimers?
    Dash Earthboy: the 36 hour day
    arabella Ella: ?
    FcSeeker Resident: love and forgiveness


    oddities of language...

    Dash Earthboy: that's the title of a book for caretakers ara :)
    arabella Ella: oh
    Dash Earthboy: or should i say "care givers"?
    Wol Euler: :)
    Lia Rikugun: :)
    Wol Euler: back to oddities of language :)
    arabella Ella: as long as it is understood :)
    Dash Earthboy: yes!
    Lia Rikugun: the opposite of the real meaning :)
    Wol Euler: I suspect many caregivers would be offended to be called caretakers :)
    Lia Rikugun: how would this look like?
    Dash Earthboy: isn't it strange for morticians to be called "caretakers" when the original term is "undertakers"?
    Wol Euler: (caretaker in institutionen liegt etwa zwischen hausmeister und putzfrau :)
    Wol Euler: oh, are they? that is new to me
    Wol Euler: I knew it as a euphemism for janitor
    Lia Rikugun: (oh wol thank you)
    arabella Ella: yes Wol me too
    Lia Rikugun: to me it sounded like someone talking the care away instead of giving it
    Dash Earthboy: bulding & grounds maintenance?
    Lia Rikugun: *taking
    arabella Ella nos
    Dash Earthboy: building*
    arabella Ella: nods
    arabella Ella: also security to some extent
    Dash Earthboy: did you imagine this discussion an hour ago Lia?
    Lia Rikugun: no why?
    Dash Earthboy: just wondered if you were disappointed?
    Lia Rikugun: I knew i would be online
    Lia Rikugun: oh, i didnt expect anything :)
    Lia Rikugun: fresh and open :)
    Dash Earthboy: ah yes, the "low expectations" approach
    Lia Rikugun: nono
    Lia Rikugun: this is a misunderstanding
    Lia Rikugun: not "low"
    Lia Rikugun: just "no"
    Lia Rikugun: ;) haha this sounds so funny
    Lia Rikugun: no expectations is different to low expectations
    Dash Earthboy: should be an interesting read later on :)
    Lia Rikugun: ;)
    Lia Rikugun: confusing confusing


    Aphrodite arrives and brings a scooter with her :)

    FcSeeker Resident: Hello Aphrodite
    Dash Earthboy: hey aph
    Lia Rikugun: hi aphrodite
    Qt Core: Hi Aphro
    arabella Ella: Hiya Aphr
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hello everyone. I've been looking for greek statues
    Wol Euler: heheheh
    Dash Earthboy: hehe
    Aphrodite Macbain: on my scooter
    Wol Euler: sounds like fun
    arabella Ella: what will u do with them?
    Dash Earthboy: or at least an Adonis?
    Aphrodite Macbain: make a performance!
    arabella Ella: cool
    Aphrodite Macbain: I'm looking for Zeus. Has anyone seen him?
    Wol Euler: he went that way.
    arabella Ella: not yet
    Dash Earthboy: he's standing behind me :)
    Dash Earthboy: looking over my shoulder :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: yikes
    Aphrodite Macbain: Pema as Zeus?
    Dash Earthboy: sometimes people forget
    Aphrodite Macbain: :-) he he
    arabella Ella waits for Dash to continue ...
    Dash Earthboy: oh! me ara?
    arabella Ella: :)
    Dash Earthboy: (nice vespa aph)
    Qt Core: i need to be elsewhere, bye all
    Wol Euler: bye qt, take care
    Dash Earthboy: bye Qt
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bye
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bye! Qt
    arabella Ella: notte Qt
    Aphrodite Macbain: want a ride on my vespa?
    FcSeeker Resident: bye Qt
    Dash Earthboy: yes aph
    Lia Rikugun: who did you mean by zeus by the way?
    Aphrodite Macbain: hop on!
    Dash Earthboy: it will take me back to riding behind my older sis :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: whoever I can find to act his role
    Dash Earthboy: you drive aph!
    Lia Rikugun: byebye
    arabella Ella: LOL
    FcSeeker Resident: lol
    Dash Earthboy: whee!
    Lia Rikugun: oh wow
    Wol Euler chuckles.
    Dash Earthboy: thanks Aph !
    Aphrodite Macbain: sorry I still have to take lessons
    Lia Rikugun: ah just in time to make a quick snapshot

    Dash Earthboy: you done good Aph
    arabella Ella: gtg good night all!
    Aphrodite Macbain: sorry about all the exhaust
    Lia Rikugun: bye ara
    Wol Euler: be ara, take care
    Wol Euler: *bye
    Dash Earthboy: g'nite Ara
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bye
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bye! ara
    Lia Rikugun: i think i will go to bed too
    FcSeeker Resident: bye ara
    Wol Euler: bye lia, sleep well
    Lia Rikugun: good night
    Dash Earthboy: g'nite Lia
    FcSeeker Resident: bye Lia
    Aphrodite Macbain: nit nite. I think I'll go and lie down in ths sun for a while.
    Dash Earthboy: sounds good Aph
    Wol Euler: and I shall go to WoK
    Dash Earthboy: i guess i should go rustle up some supper
    Wol Euler: goodnight, dash; bye fc
    Wol Euler: take care
    FcSeeker Resident: wishes good time to you too
    Dash Earthboy: g'nite all
    FcSeeker Resident: bye

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