2011.06.26 07:00 - Friendly or Unfriendly Universe?

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Adams Rubble. The comments are by Adams Rubble.

     FcSeeker was there when  arrived and we began talking about my computer which turned into a discussion of Being in a round about way although the word Being was mention only once, I think, and that by me.

    Adams Rubble: Hello FcSeeker
    FcSeeker Resident: Hello Adams
    Adams Rubble: Nice to see you again :)
    FcSeeker Resident: nice to see you 2
    Adams Rubble: Sorry, I was distracted. My computer is being funny this morning
    FcSeeker Resident: welcome to the club :)
    Adams Rubble: It loaded Firefox5 and messed up all kinds of things I need
    FcSeeker Resident: kk
    Adams Rubble: it didn't even ask
    FcSeeker Resident: aha
    FcSeeker Resident: I have heared about pc problems around the world
    Adams Rubble: oh my

    Solar Storms

    FcSeeker Resident: I myself have not lately followed sun's sent energies, but she's had much special activity lately
    FcSeeker Resident: got information about thast
    FcSeeker Resident: that from my friend
    Adams Rubble: Ohh, is that hitting already
    Adams Rubble: my problems started with Firefox loading though
    FcSeeker Resident: heared about that ab a week ago already and I think that to continue
    Adams Rubble: it loaded a new Java too
    Adams Rubble: now websites I need will not run
    FcSeeker Resident: their systems can have problems also and continue the trouble to private pc's
    Adams Rubble: I went back and undid the java and loaded a new Firefox
    Adams Rubble: ohhhh, hmmmmm
    Adams Rubble: maybe some coincidences then
    Adams Rubble: It is good to talk about these things :)
    FcSeeker Resident: ah yes
    Adams Rubble: better then jumping up and down on one's computer
    Adams Rubble: at least Second Lide is working. hehe
    Adams Rubble: Life
    Adams Rubble: If I can't to any work work at least I can play
    Adams Rubble: :)
    FcSeeker Resident: there was even such 'prediction' that the whole i-net shall crash, but that was told to happen already ---was it last year or even a year before
    Adams Rubble: yes, I have read a little and they are not sure when the big one is going to hit
    Adams Rubble: It happened sometime in the 19th century last time and knocked out the telegraphs
    FcSeeker Resident: may I ask what do you think about that 'big one' ?
    FcSeeker Resident: Hello Eliza
    Adams Rubble: what do I think? I hope it doesn't happen. hehe
    Adams Rubble: Hello Eliza :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi FcS, Adams :)
    Adams Rubble: we are talking about computer problems
    Adams Rubble: I have some :)
    Eliza Madrigal: ah, okay, sorry to hear that
    Adams Rubble: and FC brought up the burst of energy from the sun
    FcSeeker Resident: would you share your thoughts ?
    Adams Rubble: Well, if there is a danger that it will burn up our electrical grids, I hope we get some preventive measures before it hits
    Eliza Madrigal: sounds serious
    FcSeeker Resident: I have thought that those 'predicions' are just for that people shall improve things concerning i-net and such
    FcSeeker Resident: not meaning to ignore what happenes in the nature
    FcSeeker Resident: specially by sun
    FcSeeker Resident: yet, I dont think them to be so global as said, like it might be with all of the predicitions
    Adams Rubble: of course we won;t know until it happens
    Adams Rubble: I guess it depends which side is facing the sun
    FcSeeker Resident: true
    FcSeeker Resident: sure all is related with several phenomenas
    Eliza Madrigal: Is Adams on a solar computer?
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Adams Rubble giggles
    Adams Rubble: right now a wounded computer :)
    Eliza Madrigal: aw

    Does our energy affect our computers

    FcSeeker Resident: or might the better question be that if Adams IS like sun to his pc :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :))
    Adams Rubble: Firefox5 automatically loaded without asking and it also loaded a java and now the sites I need for work are not working
    Eliza Madrigal: can pull the plug at any time?
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh, ack
    FcSeeker Resident: are you aware of the option that you may effect to the pc yourself also ?
    Adams Rubble: I know my pc affects me. hehe
    Eliza Madrigal laughs
    FcSeeker Resident: ah; I mean the energy level
    FcSeeker Resident: no reason for me to laugh
    FcSeeker Resident: have seen too much of such
    Eliza Madrigal: I've heard of that... where appliances go awry at same time, etc
    FcSeeker Resident: not only concerning myself
    Eliza Madrigal: have suspected it at times... think it is why people come up with formulas ie 'things in 3s, etc'
    Eliza Madrigal: heh
    Adams Rubble: I have experienced things breaking at work when certain people were in the building
    Eliza Madrigal: hmmm
    Eliza Madrigal: like our 'objects' help us out or are talking to us, very fairy tale
    FcSeeker Resident: I still dont see/feel that your problems now Adams was caused by yourself, but prefere thinking those problems of also big companies
    Eliza Madrigal: when someone else uses my car there seem to be issues
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Adams Rubble: yes, thank you for pointing that out Fc
    Adams Rubble: Hello Dash :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Dash
    FcSeeker Resident: Hello Dash
    FcSeeker Resident: so your car's spirit dont like anybody else to drive your car Eliza
    Eliza Madrigal: Yesterday Bleu sent some of us on quite a labrynth.... have the LM if that sounds interesting (it was)
    Adams Rubble: I am no longer the prime user of our car but I'll defend my bicycle until the end
    Eliza Madrigal: well... sometimes it does feel like our 'things' get used to collaborating with us in a certain way...
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    FcSeeker Resident: that is more than familiar thing to me also
    Adams Rubble: Hello Susan :)
    FcSeeker Resident: so that I'de say it to be obvious
    FcSeeker Resident: Hello Susan
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Susan :)
    FcSeeker Resident: in case anything can be obvious
    iwandertoo Resident: waves :)
    Dash Earthboy: hey Susan :)
    FcSeeker Resident: so shall we now interview Susan ?
    Eliza Madrigal: :) maybe we live in a magical world
    Adams Rubble: this could lead us right into a discussion of appearances and reality :)
    iwandertoo Resident: ?
    Eliza Madrigal: ya think? hahah
    FcSeeker Resident: or maybe there's created too much 'magical' thinking around simple nature phenomenas
    Eliza Madrigal: sure, I don't necessarily separate the two
    Adams Rubble still successfully resisting jumping up and down on the computer
    Dash Earthboy: heheh
    FcSeeker Resident: and this magical thinking may effect among so called scientists as much as anybody else
    Eliza Madrigal: ther was an Einstein quote I found last week, that said basically 'the biggest decision you will ever make is whether you live in a friendly or unfriendly universe' (not exact quote)
    FcSeeker Resident: at least I have been surprised so many times how much that has happened
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Adams Rubble: sort of like waking up and remembering to be grateful rather than remembering all the things that are wrong
    Dash Earthboy: so the universe isn't neutral?
    Eliza Madrigal: mmm, nods
    Adams Rubble 's computer breathes a sigh of relief
    iwandertoo Resident: nods w/Adams
    Eliza Madrigal: hahah
    FcSeeker Resident: which decision each one makes before entering any life form
    Eliza Madrigal: I find it difficult to relate to neutral as a concept, actually
    FcSeeker Resident: imo Universe is very neutral concerning good and bad
    Eliza Madrigal: though I can relate to many things being many things, haha
    FcSeeker Resident: may I speak out what tries to come out my mind right now ?
    Eliza Madrigal: ie not good/bad
    Adams Rubble: of course universe is neutral but we are not
    Dash Earthboy: how about apathetic then?
    Dash Earthboy: *looks up word "apathetic"
    Eliza Madrigal: you weren't doing that before FcS?
    FcSeeker Resident: well...there's somthing 'shouting' to me which relate I dont ---at least yet---clearly see with the topic...
    Eliza Madrigal: "Computer gets reprieve, news at 11"
    Adams Rubble listening

    An Eensy Teensy Spider...

    Dash Earthboy: up to this point in the discussion i've been distracted by a small black furry spider moving around my keyboard
    FcSeeker Resident: smiles gently
    FcSeeker Resident: wise spider
    Dash Earthboy: it appears neither friendly nor unfriendly to me
    Dash Earthboy: neither wise nor unwise
    Dash Earthboy: it is what it is
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: sure FcS, of course
    Adams Rubble: as long as one is not a fly :)
    Dash Earthboy: what is wrong with flies?
    FcSeeker Resident: little panda's mind likes spiders and plays with the thought that she's learning via you :)
    Adams Rubble: flies may see spiders differently
    FcSeeker Resident: ok...this thought came to my mind;
    FcSeeker Resident: I thought long ago about those people who makes bad fires
    Dash Earthboy: flies see everything different from human beings
    FcSeeker Resident: makes bad with fires
    Dash Earthboy: from what i've heard
    Dash Earthboy: pyromaniacs Fc?
    FcSeeker Resident: untill I read about such life form who's food is fire
    FcSeeker Resident: yes
    FcSeeker Resident: so I just thought that pyromaniacs have just been living that life form before birth to be a human
    FcSeeker Resident: ah yes; Univers dont punish such people
    FcSeeker Resident: but other people sure punish them if finds who's done such fire
    FcSeeker Resident: yet, in the end, humen are also part of the Universe...so....
    Adams Rubble thinks could lead right into a discussion of Being
    Adams Rubble: :)
    FcSeeker Resident: but when we think Universe as the outsider of human world...all such all dont see at all about...nor feel much so that would be aware of why...
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Dash Earthboy: Fc I like the thought you started about things being part of
    Dash Earthboy: rather than inside or outside separateness
    Dash Earthboy: all too often I've seen people claiming to be God which is like a drop of water claiming to be the ocean :)
    FcSeeker Resident: ah ...as the most common way is to think that 'outsider' 'separateness' way when dont see much more than own human body and only feel the rest what there do exist
    FcSeeker Resident: ah yes; who can tell if one is the drop in the ocean or the ocean itself....
    Eliza Madrigal: as though mind is inside 'our' heads/bodies
    FcSeeker Resident: is it ?
    Eliza Madrigal: well, re common way to think
    FcSeeker Resident: this baby panda do not believe that way
    Eliza Madrigal: I was speaking to your point... think it is a shift in journey to consider 'where is mind' and not point to one's head
    FcSeeker Resident: for example; my mind is now very strongly connected with your mind, so; we both are in our own body and existence...and not only the body...
    FcSeeker Resident: ah sorry
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Adams Rubble: all of our minds seem to be connected this morning :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Dash Earthboy: perhaps as panda matures it will develop ability to discern when it is a drop of water or the whole ocean
    Eliza Madrigal: can it be both and neither yet not neutral? hehe
    FcSeeker Resident: that I mean; to be both yet not ...
    FcSeeker Resident: that is the connection
    Dash Earthboy: another comparison would be a toenail claiming to be the whole body
    Dash Earthboy: water is just a more universal comparison :)
    FcSeeker Resident: but like now I cannot separate clearly the feeling of other's mind body within my human body that I could know where one starts and the other ends
    Eliza Madrigal imagines toenail trying to stake claim
    Dash Earthboy: getting a run in one's stockings
    FcSeeker Resident: toenail has her own mission so she has own mind in a way also, but is so strongly part of the body that might not know where she starts and ends herself
    FcSeeker Resident: thinking the toy way; so many people touches the toy and leave from their thoughts
    FcSeeker Resident: so who/what the toy is...himself still or not ?
    FcSeeker Resident: the next question in my mind is that does it matter...
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Dash Earthboy: or does anything matter? :)
    FcSeeker Resident: all what you give the worthy matters
    Dash Earthboy: that was my point about the toenail Eliza
    Dash Earthboy: think of how a hangnail draws attention to itself in your life
    Dash Earthboy: that is what people who claim to be God are like
    Eliza Madrigal: seems a generalization Dash... we don't know what they mean
    Dash Earthboy: a small part claiming to be the whole
    Eliza Madrigal: maybe they mean that in their own lives they take responsibility
    Dash Earthboy: each part is whole unto itself
    Eliza Madrigal: each person is a unique creature could mean a million things
    FcSeeker Resident: people whom I've met and said that they are God, are willing to live by own laws and rule ower other people to obey them
    Dash Earthboy: yet each part is also a combination of parts
    iwandertoo Resident: what do you mean by those who claim to be god?
    Dash Earthboy: yes Fc, such claims are often controlling devices
    Adams Rubble: I don;t think I ever met anyone claiming to be God
    FcSeeker Resident: such people who truly has said to me that ---notice the marks that I quote their exact words; "I am God"
    Dash Earthboy: Susan, one example who comes to mind is the "Conversations With God" guy
    FcSeeker Resident: I've met few
    iwandertoo Resident: thank you
    FcSeeker Resident: one of them even wrote to a little girl's memory book that she tries to remember always that she is a God
    Dash Earthboy: from personal discussion with him, my opinion is the book should be titled "Conversations With Myself" :)
    Eliza Madrigal considers the infinite interpretations of what 'a' god is much less 'God'
    milakel Resident: hi :)
    Dash Earthboy: hey mila
    Adams Rubble: Hello Mila :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Mila :)
    FcSeeker Resident: Hello milakel
    iwandertoo Resident: waves
    Eliza Madrigal: Speaking of Gods... I do recommend the "Angry Gods" site....
    Eliza Madrigal: it was great fun :)
    milakel Resident: dash-ing through the snow ;)
    Dash Earthboy: yes Eliza, infinite interpretations are one way to be disagreeable :)
    milakel Resident: ha! i first read it as "angry birds", eliza :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :))
    Dash Earthboy: birds have been categorized as gods in some cultures
    Eliza Madrigal: would anyone like a landmark?
    Dash Earthboy: sacred cows so to speak
    Adams Rubble: Is that in SL Eliza?
    Eliza Madrigal: yes, really wonderful
    Adams Rubble: thank you
    FcSeeker Resident: thank you Eliza
    Eliza Madrigal: Bleu enjoys torturing people
    Eliza Madrigal: hah
    Dash Earthboy: thanks Eliza
    Eliza Madrigal: be prepared to spend a little time :)
    FcSeeker Resident: so shall we now interview Susan and milakel ?
    Eliza Madrigal: and make sure to get your wings and instructions before going in
    FcSeeker Resident: Hello Zen
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Zen :)
    Dash Earthboy: hey Zen
    Eliza Madrigal: Actually, must go.... thanks for the discussion :) G'luck with computer Adams !
    Zen Arado: Hi All
    Dash Earthboy: bye Eliza
    Adams Rubble: thanks Eliza :)
    Adams Rubble: bye
    FcSeeker Resident: bye Eliza
    Eliza Madrigal waves :))
    milakel Resident: poof
    milakel Resident: she's fast :)
    Zen Arado: guardian's meeting
    iwandertoo Resident: best to everyone
    Dash Earthboy: ah so it is
    Dash Earthboy: be well all :)
    FcSeeker Resident: Hello Xirana
    FcSeeker Resident: you are the guardian also Adams....
    Adams Rubble: yes Fc
    FcSeeker Resident: but you dont need to go to that guardian meeting ?
    Adams Rubble: I don;t NEED to (giggles)
    milakel Resident: :)
    FcSeeker Resident: ah
    milakel Resident: ok, i'll go
    FcSeeker Resident: dont let me to keep you
    Adams Rubble: bye Mila :)
    milakel Resident: be good, fc :)
    FcSeeker Resident: sorry
    FcSeeker Resident: bye
    Adams Rubble: no need to be sorry
    Adams Rubble: bye Fc :)

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