2011.06.28 19:00 - Play as Confidence

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Eos Amaterasu. The comments are by Eos Amaterasu.


    stevenaia Michinaga: waves
    Paradise Tennant: hiya stev
    stevenaia Michinaga: thought you were pretending to be observerm today
    stevenaia Michinaga: hello Eos
    Paradise Tennant: smiles I have had a long hectic day that started at 4.30 am today .. just finally finished sitting with a nice cold glass of proseco and waiting for my brother to arrive momentarily going to have to pouf when he does :)
    Paradise Tennant: hiya eos :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: sounds like a long day
    Eos Amaterasu: HI gals!
    stevenaia Michinaga: smiles
    stevenaia Michinaga: feel free to join us
    Eos Amaterasu: this is the best waiting room in the world


    stevenaia Michinaga: looks up Prosecco.. sounds refreshing
    stevenaia Michinaga: hi Druth
    druth Vlodovic: hi guys
    Eos Amaterasu: hi druth
    stevenaia Michinaga: hi Arch
    druth Vlodovic: hi arch
    Eos Amaterasu: Hi arch!
    Archmage Atlantis: Guten Abend, Eos, druth, Steve.....and most fair Paradise
    Paradise Tennant: hiya arch druth gtsy :)
    Eos Amaterasu: if paradise be not fair, what glimmer of hope may there be left?
    Paradise Tennant: lol you are full of light eos ..thank you :)
    Archmage Atlantis: I always read gtsy as gutsey, tho I know it means good to see you
    Eos Amaterasu: ha ha :-)
    Paradise Tennant: smiles at arch good to see you arch :)
    Archmage Atlantis: Namaste - or may my god recognize yours
    Eos Amaterasu: :-)
    Eos Amaterasu: nice way to put it
    Eos Amaterasu: may I hold you in the best intention that I may hold myself in
    stevenaia Michinaga: Waves to Caladonia, ltns
    Eos Amaterasu: Hi Ewan
    Eos Amaterasu: Cal
    Ewan Bonham: Hi Folks!
    Eos Amaterasu: wow, Cal's walking on air!
    stevenaia Michinaga: oops Caledonia
    Ewan Bonham: Just rezzing...:)
    stevenaia Michinaga: hi Ewan
    Archmage Atlantis: Follow the vector lines
    Eos Amaterasu: welcome to the Paradise's waiting room :-)
    Eos Amaterasu: exit "the" stage left
    stevenaia Michinaga: we will keep you company and try to keep you awake

    Archmage introduces a theme

    Archmage Atlantis: I have a topic
    Eos Amaterasu cups his ear
    Archmage Atlantis: The beginning of creation

    stevenaia has a backup theme

    stevenaia Michinaga: I have a backup :)
    Paradise Tennant: hiya ewan caledonaia :)
    Eos Amaterasu: (always good to have)
    Eos Amaterasu: and what was your backup, stevenaia
    Eos Amaterasu: ?
    Archmage Atlantis: Perhaps starting with the backup
    Eos Amaterasu: let the themes play

    stevenaia Michinaga: begins with a short sory
    stevenaia Michinaga: story
    Archmage Atlantis: would work better
    stevenaia Michinaga: I was at Tai CHi challs to day and the teacher was telling us to be confident in our practice
    stevenaia Michinaga: even if we were not
    Caledonia Heron: hi :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: although she didn;t say it.. what I heard was "Play as Confidence"
    Paradise Tennant: yes believe that .. confidence in your ability whether immediate or not is important almost confidence as faith
    Eos Amaterasu: play as if the "if" in "if I were confident" were not there....
    Paradise Tennant: the expertise the grace the skill will come
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes, practice with intent (no one watching will know)
    stevenaia Michinaga: reminded me of what we do here
    Eos Amaterasu: or play as if the watcher and holder backer of confidence were let go
    stevenaia Michinaga: practice with the intent of discovery
    Eos Amaterasu: then you're coming from nowhere
    Archmage Atlantis: Stevenaia, .....only you are watching
    Eos Amaterasu: so not leaning on anything
    Eos Amaterasu: so at the beginning of...
    Eos Amaterasu: ... creation
    Eos Amaterasu: :-)
    stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: not knowing what to do is the first step to Play
    Eos Amaterasu: Perhaps theme for upcoming 90 second pause: not knowing what to do is the first step of Play
    Eos Amaterasu: "give up all hope of fruition"
    Paradise Tennant: and you know rightness and perfection is such a subjective study :)
    Eos Amaterasu: then you don't hold back
    Archmage Atlantis: Sister-brother friend, there is no try, there is only do. (flicks grey wrinked ears)


    Eos Amaterasu: any experiences of reflections on Play as Confidence?
    Paradise Tennant: lol only that i know mine soars on good hair days :) loll and plumets when I should be wearing a hat :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: kept thinking of a baby'sfirst step.... it;s all in the first step
    Ewan Bonham: Lol...or feel like we should for some reason...:)
    stevenaia Michinaga: no looking back
    Archmage Atlantis: You have your first grandchild?
    stevenaia Michinaga: not for a long time in the future
    Ewan Bonham: To me, Play means a confidence in our own perfection, regardless of what and how we are doing..:)
    stevenaia Michinaga: Ewan, you mean everything is perfect?
    Ewan Bonham: I believe our true essence is perfect.
    Ewan Bonham: Young kids know this...
    Ewan Bonham: They do not feel self conscious...:)
    stevenaia Michinaga: smiles, yes it is that simple isn;t it
    Eos Amaterasu: and that can be expressed through mistakes as well as through 10 out of 10
    Eos Amaterasu: kids make lots of mistakes :-)
    Ewan Bonham: Yes...
    Eos Amaterasu: that's how they learn
    Eos Amaterasu: that's perfection grooming itself
    druth Vlodovic: they haven't learned to judge yet, be nice to forget how :)
    Ewan Bonham: And when they 'pretend', it is just as real for them...:)
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes, after all Edison only really made one lightbulb that workes
    Ewan Bonham: Yes, Eos..
    stevenaia Michinaga: he is not known for his failures
    Eos Amaterasu: yes, they see that our real is delightful pretense
    Ewan Bonham: Smile...Steve
    Paradise Tennant: smiles I agree ewan there is something profoundly appealing about the egalitarian nature of true perfection
    Paradise Tennant: sorry guys brother just arrived got to scoot
    stevenaia Michinaga: waves bye to Paradise
    Ewan Bonham: Smiling...I like that, Para...ega;itarian..
    Eos Amaterasu: bye Para, great to spend a bit of time here
    Caledonia Heron: excuse me
    druth Vlodovic: have fun paradise, and paradise's brother
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes Cal?
    stevenaia Michinaga: poofs
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hi
    Eos Amaterasu: hi Aphrodite
    stevenaia Michinaga: seems thre is perfection, everything else is judgement
    Ewan Bonham: Hi Aphro
    Aphrodite Macbain: sounded like an interesting discussion
    druth Vlodovic: hey aph
    stevenaia Michinaga: hi Aphodite
    Aphrodite Macbain: hey druth, tevenaia, arch, ewan, Eos
    stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: st
    Eos Amaterasu: Arch, can you say more about "beginning of creation"?
    Aphrodite Macbain: true perfection?
    stevenaia Michinaga: those who do, do it with perfection,
    stevenaia Michinaga: those who don't judge
    Aphrodite Macbain: do what?
    Aphrodite Macbain: then perfection is irrelevant
    stevenaia Michinaga: what ever it is you are doing Aphrodite
    stevenaia Michinaga: irrelevent to who?
    Aphrodite Macbain: is perfect?
    Aphrodite Macbain: judging implies evaluating
    Aphrodite Macbain: if people dont judge, the term perfect is meaningless
    druth Vlodovic: which is just about perfect
    Aphrodite Macbain: he he
    Eos Amaterasu: there's the imperfect to perfect continuum game
    Aphrodite Macbain: past and plus perfect
    Eos Amaterasu: and then there's the space or presence experiencing that continuum
    Eos Amaterasu: that space transcends the game
    Eos Amaterasu: within our continuum we call it, by analogy, perfection
    Aphrodite Macbain: like the ocean and the wave
    Eos Amaterasu: Nadia Comenici, 10 out 10 on the parallel bars
    Eos Amaterasu: that's perfection: at least relative perfection
    Aphrodite Macbain: good better best. who decides? who judges?


    Aphrodite Macbain: only my relatives think I'm perfect
    Archmage Atlantis: The beginning of creation is being, and in being there is not perfection, not is there a lack of perfection....there is only being
    Archmage Atlantis: I must go
    stevenaia Michinaga: aren't waves perfect as they can only be what they are. We are but another kind of wave
    Eos Amaterasu: thanks for the theme contribution, arch
    stevenaia Michinaga: bye Arch
    Eos Amaterasu waves
    Aphrodite Macbain: there is no beginning and end; it's a construct
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bye
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bye! Arch
    druth Vlodovic: I'm off as well, have fun all
    Eos Amaterasu: bye druth
    stevenaia Michinaga: bye druth
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bye
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bye! druth
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hi bertram
    Eos Amaterasu: constructs insist on having beginnings and ends
    Bertrum Resident: hi everyone.
    Aphrodite Macbain: sorry Bertrum
    Eos Amaterasu: Hi Bertrum
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes
    stevenaia Michinaga: hi Bertrum, ltns, many new and old faces this week
    Aphrodite Macbain: but in a Buddhist universe there are cycles, not beginnings and endings
    Eos Amaterasu: not particularly Buddhist, more an eastern meme
    Aphrodite Macbain: no better or worse
    stevenaia Michinaga: I thought the cycles eventully result in elightenment
    stevenaia Michinaga: seem ther eis a better
    Eos Amaterasu: enlightenment transcends the cycles
    Eos Amaterasu: it's like dropping: the cycles don't fall to the ground with a thud
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hmmm. Im reading " The Quantum and the Lotus" -conversations between Mattieu Ricard and Trin Xuan huan
    Aphrodite Macbain: discussing "where Buddhism and science meet"
    Eos Amaterasu: gad, I first read that as Tintin :-)
    Aphrodite Macbain: !?
    Aphrodite Macbain: published in 2000
    Eos Amaterasu: they meet at Play as Being :-)
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes!
    Aphrodite Macbain: brb
    Aphrodite Macbain: phone
    Eos Amaterasu: How would you describe the steps to confidence, stevenaia? Or are there steps?
    stevenaia Michinaga: that's just it, not steps, jsut a frame of mind, a choice from one moment to another
    Eos Amaterasu: "a choice from one moment to another"....
    Eos Amaterasu: what is that choice, or is there a choice?
    stevenaia Michinaga: you can choose to "Be" confident in what you do, even if you don;t know the dance moves... no one knows you don't know
    Eos Amaterasu: :-)
    Eos Amaterasu: we're all improvising
    Eos Amaterasu: playing
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes, the moves are all yours, the confidence is all yours, how could they be "untrue"
    Eos Amaterasu: perhaps we meet not in the right move, but in between the moves, in the making of the moves, imperfect though they may be


    stevenaia Michinaga: seems "lack of confidence" takes a lot more work (questioning, doubting, judging)
    Eos Amaterasu: takes lots of energy, occupies all our time
    Eos Amaterasu: frittering away from that openness, scary from the outside
    stevenaia Michinaga: draws you into the past
    stevenaia Michinaga: destroys the view ahead
    Eos Amaterasu: you're pre-occupied, so you don't attend right where you are
    stevenaia Michinaga: nod, there too :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: gets to" letting go"
    Eos Amaterasu: that's the "everyday practice": moment by moment to be let go
    Eos Amaterasu: then you are a child of the universe
    Eos Amaterasu: learning to be human
    stevenaia Michinaga: seems if you recognize that you will excel, human has that quality
    Eos Amaterasu: I guess Tai Chi is one practice of both letting go and having confidence in both space and intention
    stevenaia Michinaga: it creats an environement of open ended learning... some thing you can never complete, you can only get better each time you do it
    Eos Amaterasu: infinite game
    stevenaia Michinaga: infinite patience with yourself
    Eos Amaterasu: ∞
    Eos Amaterasu: oO∞Oo


    stevenaia Michinaga: sounds like a perfect ending
    stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: night all
    Eos Amaterasu: 'night
    Eos Amaterasu: Thank you all - I must go as well
    Bertrum Resident: night everyone.

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