2011.06.30 13:00 - me and I - who is 'I'?

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Lia Rikugun. The comments are by Lia Rikugun.

    [2011/06/30 13:03]  Lia Rikugun: hi FcSeeker
    [2011/06/30 13:03]  FcSeeker Resident: Hello Lia
    [2011/06/30 13:04]  Lia Rikugun: how are you doing?
    [2011/06/30 13:04]  FcSeeker Resident: I'm quite o.k.
    [2011/06/30 13:04]  FcSeeker Resident: how are you ?
    [2011/06/30 13:05]  Lia Rikugun: i am doing good
    [2011/06/30 13:05]  Lia Rikugun: thank you
    [2011/06/30 13:05]  FcSeeker Resident: good :)


    copying your body... (I had watched en episode from the outer limits. Here a link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Outer_Limits_%281995_TV_series%29 )

    [2011/06/30 13:05]  Lia Rikugun: i just watched an interesting episode of "the outer limits"
    [2011/06/30 13:05]  FcSeeker Resident: aha
    [2011/06/30 13:05]  Lia Rikugun: a scifi series from 10 years ago and longer :)
    [2011/06/30 13:06]  Lia Rikugun: do you know?
    [2011/06/30 13:06]  FcSeeker Resident: I sadly dont
    [2011/06/30 13:06]  Lia Rikugun: this episode was about the new technology of jumping
    [2011/06/30 13:06]  FcSeeker Resident: aha
    [2011/06/30 13:06]  Lia Rikugun: jumping from one point to another inbto a far galaxy
    [2011/06/30 13:06]  FcSeeker Resident: kk
    [2011/06/30 13:06]  Lia Rikugun: and that you create a copy of the body
    [2011/06/30 13:07]  Lia Rikugun: and when the body is copied at the goal location
    [2011/06/30 13:07]  Lia Rikugun: you destroy the original one
    [2011/06/30 13:07]  FcSeeker Resident: aha
    [2011/06/30 13:08]  Lia Rikugun: in the episode the original one was not destroyed because there was no message that the transition succeeded
    [2011/06/30 13:08]  FcSeeker Resident: ok
    [2011/06/30 13:08]  Lia Rikugun: but it wokrd out
    [2011/06/30 13:08]  Lia Rikugun: so there were two bodies
    [2011/06/30 13:08]  Flight Band: All Go
    [2011/06/30 13:08]  Lia Rikugun: one here and another in the other galaxy
    [2011/06/30 13:08]  FcSeeker Resident: Hello Chi
    [2011/06/30 13:08]  Lia Rikugun: hello


    where is the 'I'?

    [2011/06/30 13:09]  Lia Rikugun: it is interesting because then the question arises where the "I" is?
    [2011/06/30 13:09]  FcSeeker Resident: that is interesting question
    [2011/06/30 13:09]  Chi Aho: Hi, Seeker, Lia
    [2011/06/30 13:10]  FcSeeker Resident: I also was thinking about the Universe before the meeting
    [2011/06/30 13:10]  Lia Rikugun: it seems that any copy will just be a copy
    [2011/06/30 13:10]  Lia Rikugun: so the "I" is a new one but not the same as the old
    [2011/06/30 13:10]  Lia Rikugun: chi i was telling FcSeeker about an episode of "the outer limits"
    [2011/06/30 13:10]  FcSeeker Resident: so there is some difference
    [2011/06/30 13:11]  Lia Rikugun: where a body can be transfered to a different location by copying it and then destroying the original one
    [2011/06/30 13:11]  Lia Rikugun: if you dont destroy the original one, who is then "you"?
    [2011/06/30 13:11]  FcSeeker Resident: then there is 'we'
    [2011/06/30 13:12]  FcSeeker Resident: yet also 'I'
    [2011/06/30 13:12]  Lia Rikugun: but every individual will have the opinion of being "I"
    [2011/06/30 13:12]  FcSeeker Resident: could be
    [2011/06/30 13:12]  Lia Rikugun: and will be certain to be the true one
    [2011/06/30 13:13]  Lia Rikugun: (most probably there is much more to it than just copying the body information)
    [2011/06/30 13:13]  FcSeeker Resident: so what makes the difference ?
    [2011/06/30 13:14]  Lia Rikugun: well I am just wondering
    [2011/06/30 13:14]  Lia Rikugun: because both person will be certain to be the true one
    [2011/06/30 13:14]  FcSeeker Resident: aha
    [2011/06/30 13:14]  FcSeeker Resident: o.k.
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    What is the difference between 'new I' and 'old I'?

    [2011/06/30 13:15]  FcSeeker Resident: I just dont know the reason that there would be the difference between new 'I' and the old one if the body is copied also
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    [2011/06/30 13:16]  Qt Core: Hi all

    [2011/06/30 13:16]  Lia Rikugun: so fcseeker you think that new I and old I are the same?
    [2011/06/30 13:16]  FcSeeker Resident: Hello Qt
    [2011/06/30 13:16]  Lia Rikugun: Hi qt

    [2011/06/30 13:16]  FcSeeker Resident: I think so yes
    [2011/06/30 13:17]  Chi Aho: hi, QT
    [2011/06/30 13:17]  Lia Rikugun: we are taling about what happens if you copy a body and you suddenly have two people standing there
    [2011/06/30 13:17]  FcSeeker Resident: because I do not see any reason to the change
    [2011/06/30 13:17]  Lia Rikugun: but this is only from the outside perspective fcseeker
    [2011/06/30 13:17]  Wol Euler: evening all
    [2011/06/30 13:17]  FcSeeker Resident: well...as in a way I have inside perspective
    [2011/06/30 13:17]  Lia Rikugun: if you were copied and there would stand a person next to you who looks like you and acty like you, would you think thats you?
    [2011/06/30 13:17]  Chi Aho: Hello, Wol
    [2011/06/30 13:17]  Qt Core: letting out practical and physics difficoulties ?
    [2011/06/30 13:17]  FcSeeker Resident: Hello Wol
    [2011/06/30 13:17]  Lia Rikugun: hi wol

    [2011/06/30 13:18]  Lia Rikugun: yes just a thought experiment


    my "me-ness" is my consciousness not my body

    [2011/06/30 13:18]  Wol Euler: no, because my "me-ness" is my consciousness not ,my body
    [2011/06/30 13:18]  Lia Rikugun: maybe we can find out more about the "I"
    [2011/06/30 13:18]  Lia Rikugun: yes thats what I am saying
    [2011/06/30 13:19]  Lia Rikugun: so both yous will think they are you, and think that the other you is not-you
    [2011/06/30 13:19]  Wol Euler: right
    [2011/06/30 13:19]  Qt Core: they would start being different in fractions of a seconds just watching one another against different backgrounds, so probably the copy wpuld ever recognize its being a copy
    [2011/06/30 13:20]  Wol Euler: how would anyone know, though?
    [2011/06/30 13:20]  Qt Core: *even
    [2011/06/30 13:20]  Lia Rikugun: yes think so too
    [2011/06/30 13:20]  Wol Euler: and how would both of you decide which should be "deleted" when the experiment is over?
    [2011/06/30 13:20]  Qt Core: both knew what direction were facing when the copy started
    [2011/06/30 13:20]  Qt Core: and its position n the "room"
    [2011/06/30 13:21]  Qt Core: and then the copy would see the made in china logo in its buttock ;-)
    [2011/06/30 13:21]  Lia Rikugun: HAHA
    [2011/06/30 13:21]  Wol Euler: I'm pretty sure that my copy would not be willing to be deleted, even knowing that it was a copy
    [2011/06/30 13:23]  Lia Rikugun: so i want to find a little summary for me
    [2011/06/30 13:24]  Lia Rikugun: "I am not my body"
    [2011/06/30 13:24]  Lia Rikugun: right?
    [2011/06/30 13:24]  Wol Euler: /me nods.
    [2011/06/30 13:24]  Lia Rikugun: :)
    [2011/06/30 13:24]  Lia Rikugun: "I am not my thinking pattern"


    who am I?

    [2011/06/30 13:24]  Lia Rikugun: who am I?
    [2011/06/30 13:24]  Chi Aho: pure spirit
    [2011/06/30 13:25]  Lia Rikugun: what does that mean?
    [2011/06/30 13:25]  Qt Core: but mostly incapacitated without a body that we end up considering being ourselves
    [2011/06/30 13:25]  Wol Euler: you are your awareness
    [2011/06/30 13:26]  Lia Rikugun: I dont have an understanding of what that means
    [2011/06/30 13:26]  Lia Rikugun: can we go deeper?
    [2011/06/30 13:26]  Wol Euler: neither do I, to be honest, I'm thinking as I go, trying to answer your question
    [2011/06/30 13:26]  Chi Aho: When you say "Who am I" you are really pondering your own identity, aren't you?
    [2011/06/30 13:26]  Chi Aho: So my answer is....
    [2011/06/30 13:27]  Chi Aho: i am not my body, name, role, age, gender, etc.
    [2011/06/30 13:27]  Wol Euler: /me nods.
    [2011/06/30 13:27]  Chi Aho: in meditation i identify with the spirit that pervades the entire universe
    [2011/06/30 13:27]  Chi Aho: it is all in and through us
    [2011/06/30 13:27]  Chi Aho: we are merely outward manifestations of this spirit
    [2011/06/30 13:28]  Chi Aho: So I am not James (rl name)
    [2011/06/30 13:28]  Chi Aho: See?
    [2011/06/30 13:28]  Chi Aho: or do you see it another way?
    [2011/06/30 13:28]  Wol Euler: /me ponders
    [2011/06/30 13:28]  Lia Rikugun: not not my identity
    [2011/06/30 13:28]  Lia Rikugun: the assumptions here are "Iam not my body, I am not my thinking"
    [2011/06/30 13:28]  Wol Euler: let's say perhaps "not solely"
    [2011/06/30 13:29]  Lia Rikugun: yes maybe this is misunderstandable
    [2011/06/30 13:29]  Wol Euler: my identity in the world at large is prettty closely associated wiht "me"
    [2011/06/30 13:29]  Lia Rikugun: my body belongs to me and my thinking
    [2011/06/30 13:29]  Lia Rikugun: but I am not defined my them
    [2011/06/30 13:29]  Wol Euler: however, there are people who know me well by sight, even to talk to, over many years here in town, who do not know my identity
    [2011/06/30 13:29]  Wol Euler: they know me but not my identity
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    [2011/06/30 13:30]  Wol Euler: (thinking out loud)
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    "awareness" versus "awareness in someone/someone"?

    [2011/06/30 13:32]  Lia Rikugun: ok so lets assume again we have you and your copy standing next to each other, both have the same body, the same thoughts, the same identities
    [2011/06/30 13:32]  Lia Rikugun: but your copy is not you
    [2011/06/30 13:32]  Lia Rikugun: so what defines you?
    [2011/06/30 13:32]  Wol Euler: me is my awareness
    [2011/06/30 13:32]  Lia Rikugun: is there anything that defines you in particular or is there not?
    [2011/06/30 13:32]  Wol Euler: hello dash
    [2011/06/30 13:33]  Qt Core: Hi Dash
    [2011/06/30 13:33]  Dash Earthboy: hey y'all
    [2011/06/30 13:33]  FcSeeker Resident: Hello Dash

    [2011/06/30 13:33]  Wol Euler: what makes me say that the copy is not "me" is that I have no awareness "in" it.
    [2011/06/30 13:33]  Lia Rikugun: hi dash
    [2011/06/30 13:33]  Dash Earthboy: did I miss anything exciting?
    [2011/06/30 13:33]  Wol Euler: my awareness is here, looking out of this shell at that one
    [2011/06/30 13:33]  Wol Euler: unless "I" can make "its" fingers move, it is not me
    [2011/06/30 13:34]  FcSeeker Resident: if you have split yourself to exist in both bodies, you sure have awareness aslo in both
    [2011/06/30 13:34]  Lia Rikugun: so now we have two things: "my awareness" and "awareness"
    [2011/06/30 13:34]  Wol Euler: hello xxxxx, have you been here before?
    [2011/06/30 13:34]  xxxxx: hello wol noo i havent
    [2011/06/30 13:34]  xxxxx: in fact i cant stay too long

    [2011/06/30 13:34]  FcSeeker Resident: as well you now make 'it's' = your body to use 'it's' fingers
    [2011/06/30 13:34]  Lia Rikugun: is it possible for me to ever feel "awareness" or will it always just be "my awareness"
    [2011/06/30 13:35]  Wol Euler: xxxxx,I'll give you a brief introduction in IM then
    [2011/06/30 13:36]  Lia Rikugun: thanks wol

    [2011/06/30 13:37]  Qt Core: if we weren't able to separate the original from the copy are there both copy or both original both we'll say i'm me, i'm the original
    [2011/06/30 13:38]  Qt Core: or not ?
    [2011/06/30 13:38]  Qt Core: *are them
    [2011/06/30 13:38]  Wol Euler: would the copy-you accept that subordinate status?
    [2011/06/30 13:38]  Wol Euler: or would it not rather race for your apartment to grab the passport and drivers license, etc?
    [2011/06/30 13:38]  Wol Euler: /me grins.
    [2011/06/30 13:38]  Lia Rikugun: :)
    [2011/06/30 13:39]  Qt Core: and tax form
    [2011/06/30 13:39]  xxxxx: /me whispers good by to everyone
    [2011/06/30 13:39]  Dash Earthboy: waves
    [2011/06/30 13:39]  Wol Euler: bye xxxxx, enjoy your ice cream
    [2011/06/30 13:40]  FcSeeker Resident: waves
    [2011/06/30 13:40]  xxxxx: lol .. ask chi !
    [2011/06/30 13:40]  Qt Core: bye xxxxx

    [2011/06/30 13:40]  Wol Euler: /me smiles.
    [2011/06/30 13:40]  Lia Rikugun: byebye xxxxx
    [2011/06/30 13:41]  Dash Earthboy: wait ... where am I? :)
    [2011/06/30 13:41]  Lia Rikugun: haha
    [2011/06/30 13:41]  Dash Earthboy: Ask not what the Self can do for you; ask what you can do for your Self.
    [2011/06/30 13:41]  Lia Rikugun: on a server in san fransisco?
    [2011/06/30 13:41]  Wol Euler: /me smiles.
    [2011/06/30 13:41]  Qt Core: today where are you is easy, while who are you... :-)
    [2011/06/30 13:42]  Dash Earthboy: :)
    [2011/06/30 13:42]  Dash Earthboy: lag for me today
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    [2011/06/30 13:45]  Dash Earthboy: *a hush fell over the crowd
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    [2011/06/30 13:46]  Dash Earthboy: *There's a kind of hush all over the world tonight. Tonight you can hear the sound of lovers in love. :)
    [2011/06/30 13:46]  Wol Euler: heheh
    [2011/06/30 13:47]  Wol Euler: the songs of my childhood
    [2011/06/30 13:48]  Dash Earthboy: Sea Cruise?
    [2011/06/30 13:48]  Dash Earthboy: oooWEEE baby !
    [2011/06/30 13:49]  Dash Earthboy: think there's a song for every occasion?
    [2011/06/30 13:49]  Qt Core: yes
    [2011/06/30 13:50]  Wol Euler: /me nods.
    [2011/06/30 13:50]  Dash Earthboy: what song fits this occasion? c'mon now !
    [2011/06/30 13:50]  Lia Rikugun: "all by myself"
    [2011/06/30 13:50]  Lia Rikugun: :D
    [2011/06/30 13:50]  Chi Aho: Excuse me folks; I must go
    [2011/06/30 13:50]  Lia Rikugun: bye chi
    [2011/06/30 13:50]  Dash Earthboy: waves to Chi
    [2011/06/30 13:50]  Qt Core: Bye Chi
    [2011/06/30 13:50]  FcSeeker Resident: enjoy your time Chi
    [2011/06/30 13:50]  Wol Euler: bye chi

    [2011/06/30 13:51]  Dash Earthboy: Sometimes when I go to write a song it starts with just a single thought.
    [2011/06/30 13:51]  Dash Earthboy: here's a recent thought:
    [2011/06/30 13:51]  Dash Earthboy: So as luck would have it, the world's tenderest lover continued to live amongst those who were only into S-M.
    [2011/06/30 13:51]  Wol Euler: hehehe
    [2011/06/30 13:52]  Qt Core: poor guy/girl
    [2011/06/30 13:52]  Dash Earthboy: what can they do huh?
    [2011/06/30 13:53]  Dash Earthboy: that's how I want to write the song
    [2011/06/30 13:53]  Qt Core: use whipped cream whips ?
    [2011/06/30 13:53]  Wol Euler: :)
    [2011/06/30 13:53]  Dash Earthboy: ah so... play along?
    [2011/06/30 13:54]  Qt Core: if one like sm it would not be so tender to deny her/him that ?
    [2011/06/30 13:54]  Qt Core: too many negation...
    [2011/06/30 13:55]  Dash Earthboy: can one find positives contained within negatives?
    [2011/06/30 13:55]  Wol Euler: surely
    [2011/06/30 13:55]  Dash Earthboy: i've heard every problem contains its own solution
    [2011/06/30 13:55]  Dash Earthboy: everything contains its opposite
    [2011/06/30 13:56]  Dash Earthboy: duality
    [2011/06/30 13:56]  Dash Earthboy: and so we look for what? balance?
    [2011/06/30 13:57]  Wol Euler: perhaps we wait for, rather than looking for
    [2011/06/30 13:57]  Wol Euler: wu wei
    [2011/06/30 13:57]  Dash Earthboy: look or maybe observe would be more accurate?
    [2011/06/30 13:58]  Wol Euler: /me nods.
    [2011/06/30 13:58]  Dash Earthboy: good point for discussion tho Wol
    [2011/06/30 13:58]  Dash Earthboy: is one seeking if one only waits in place?
    [2011/06/30 13:59]  Qt Core: time to go, bye
    [2011/06/30 13:59]  Dash Earthboy: bye Qt
    [2011/06/30 13:59]  Wol Euler: bye qt, take care
    [2011/06/30 13:59]  FcSeeker Resident: waves
    [2011/06/30 13:59]  Lia Rikugun: bye qt

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    [2011/06/30 14:02]  Dash Earthboy: i guess i should for the record state that part of my emphasis on meanings of words stems from my work on teaching computers to understand spoken words, let alone other programming
    [2011/06/30 14:02]  Dash Earthboy: and my believe that each of us is subtly "programmed" by external sources and the information they feed us
    [2011/06/30 14:02]  Dash Earthboy: *belief
    [2011/06/30 14:03]  Wol Euler: I doubt that you'll find any disagreement here on the importance of the meanings of words :)
    [2011/06/30 14:03]  Dash Earthboy: guess you've missed that Wol
    [2011/06/30 14:03]  Wol Euler: ?
    [2011/06/30 14:04]  Dash Earthboy: i've even been told some human things can't be defined in words :)
    [2011/06/30 14:04]  Wol Euler: /me shrugs
    [2011/06/30 14:04]  Wol Euler: that doesn't mean that the attempt is withzout value
    [2011/06/30 14:04]  Dash Earthboy: true as well
    [2011/06/30 14:05]  Dash Earthboy: the earlier session's discussion on "perfection" is based on that concept you just stated
    [2011/06/30 14:06]  Dash Earthboy: since ancient times "perfect" was a process toward being "thoroughly worked"
    [2011/06/30 14:06]  Dash Earthboy: or as the Buddha would have it "thoroughly examined"
    [2011/06/30 14:06]  Wol Euler: /me nods.
    [2011/06/30 14:06]  Dash Earthboy: somewhere along the line people started to use perfect to mean flawless
    [2011/06/30 14:07]  Dash Earthboy: especially in the "I'm not perfect" statements
    [2011/06/30 14:08]  Dash Earthboy: so i try to get more accurate words whenever possible
    [2011/06/30 14:08]  Dash Earthboy: but much PC discussion uses generic PC buzzwords/phrases
    [2011/06/30 14:09]  Dash Earthboy: btw I think Fc stated a good definition of perfect too :)
    [2011/06/30 14:09]  Wol Euler: all the more reason to insist on proper meanings
    [2011/06/30 14:09]  Dash Earthboy: yay here is HOKON !
    [2011/06/30 14:09]  Hokon Cazalet: Yaaaaayyyyyyyy!
    [2011/06/30 14:09]  Hokon Cazalet: Weeee! ^.^
    [2011/06/30 14:09]  Wol Euler: hello hokon
    [2011/06/30 14:09]  Hokon Cazalet: hiya =)
    [2011/06/30 14:09]  Lia Rikugun: hi hokon

    [2011/06/30 14:09]  Dash Earthboy: please sit beside Fc hokon :)
    [2011/06/30 14:09]  Hokon Cazalet: hehe
    [2011/06/30 14:10]  Dash Earthboy: now more is right with the world again :)
    [2011/06/30 14:10]  Wol Euler: /me smiles.
    [2011/06/30 14:10]  FcSeeker Resident: Hello Hokon
    [2011/06/30 14:10]  Hokon Cazalet: hi =)
    [2011/06/30 14:10]  Hokon Cazalet: brb

    [2011/06/30 14:10]  Lia Rikugun: I think I will go to bed now
    [2011/06/30 14:10]  FcSeeker Resident: do you have any idea when my gf could come to meet me ?
    [2011/06/30 14:10]  Lia Rikugun: you all have a good nightor day :)
    [2011/06/30 14:10]  Dash Earthboy: sleep well Lia :)
    [2011/06/30 14:11]  Lia Rikugun: byebye
    [2011/06/30 14:11]  FcSeeker Resident: Hokon ?
    [2011/06/30 14:11]  FcSeeker Resident: sleep well Lia
    [2011/06/30 14:11]  Wol Euler: bye lia, take care


    The autologger had some problems and didnt record everything. The text above is what I saved locally on my computer, the text below is what Wol gave me. Maybe there is still a little missing.


    Dash (dash.earthboy): Fc your g/f is back !
    FcSeeker: awwww
    Wol Euler: the bear!
    Hokon Cazalet: Yaaaaayyyyyyyy!
    FcSeeker: Hello my dear :)))))))))))))))))
    Hokon Cazalet: hi =)
    FcSeeker: soooooooooooooo wonderfull to see you :))))))))
    Hokon Cazalet: you too =)
    Hokon Cazalet walks over and gives Fc a hug
    FcSeeker: so how have you been ?
    FcSeeker: blushes
    FcSeeker: your fur is so nice
    Hokon Cazalet: ty =) i got it super wahsed
    FcSeeker: I was told that you needed to work with it :)
    Dash (dash.earthboy): somebody take a picture :)
    Wol Euler smiles.
    FcSeeker: so sorry my dear
    Hokon Cazalet: awww
    FcSeeker: was so surprised you to come that I went crazy
    Hokon Cazalet: dont be sorry =)
    Hokon Cazalet: hehe thats ok =())
    Hokon Cazalet: =)
    FcSeeker: and forgot to offer my pillow for you to sit
    FcSeeker: please have the sit my dear
    FcSeeker: ahhhh
    Hokon Cazalet: =)
    Hokon Cazalet: ty!!!
    FcSeeker: now the world is perfect :)))))))))))
    Dash (dash.earthboy): :)
    Hokon Cazalet: Yaaaaayyyyyyyy!
    Wol Euler: awwwwww <3
    Hokon Cazalet: ❤
    Hokon Cazalet: ❤
    Hokon Cazalet: ❤
    -- BELL --
    Dash (dash.earthboy): Wol, kudos on your logging the other day :)
    Wol Euler: ? aggers posted it, I just sent her the text
    FcSeeker: <3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3
    Dash (dash.earthboy): :)
    Hokon Cazalet: ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥
    Dash (dash.earthboy): Hokon, I can't get the heart symbol when I'm using Linux, only in Windows
    Hokon Cazalet: =(
    Dash (dash.earthboy): probably a font thing :(
    Hokon Cazalet: yup
    Dash (dash.earthboy): nice shot :)
    FcSeeker Resident gave you tinies with special guardians.
    Dash (dash.earthboy): has panda seen his pic in the log?
    Wol Euler: awwww, sweet :)
    FcSeeker: ah no...
    Hokon Cazalet: =)
    Wol Euler: oh, *that* log :) hehehe
    FcSeeker: can you give me such address that I could see ?
    Dash (dash.earthboy): Wol, can you provide that wiki address?
    Wol Euler: looking for it ...
    Wol Euler: http://wiki.playasbeing.org/Chat_Logs/2011/06/2011.06.19_13%3a00_-_Animal_antics
    FcSeeker: awwwww
    FcSeeker: feels so special
    Hokon Cazalet: hehe
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Dash (dash.earthboy): :)
    Dash (dash.earthboy): ty Wol
    Hokon Cazalet: =)
    FcSeeker: thinking that there cannot be happier panda in the whole wide world
    Wol Euler: awwwww
    Hokon Cazalet: =)
    Hokon Cazalet snuggles near Fc
    FcSeeker whispers: gives a kiss onto his gf's cheek :)
    Dash (dash.earthboy): we've all missed ya Hokon :)
    Wol Euler: true
    Hokon Cazalet collapses from happiness
    FcSeeker: and many others also who are not present now
    Dash (dash.earthboy): well, Wol, shall we give the lovebirds oops, bears some privacy?
    Dash (dash.earthboy): oh hi XXXXX
    XXXXX: hi
    Hokon Cazalet: hi =)
    FcSeeker: Hello XXXXX
    Wol Euler: hello XXXXX, have you been here before?
    FcSeeker whispers: seems that I cannot get closer
    XXXXX: no
    Hokon Cazalet: aw
    Wol Euler: ok, I'll give you an introduction in IM
    XXXXX: ok
    Dash (dash.earthboy): i'll bet we look quite the strange family to our visitor :)
    FcSeeker: lol
    FcSeeker: well; how do you see us to be Julia ?
    FcSeeker: this Hokon is my gf :))))))))))))
    Hokon Cazalet: Yaaaaayyyyyyyy!
    FcSeeker: and Wol and Dash are special friends to us
    Hokon Cazalet: =)
    FcSeeker: my dear; I have told to many people how lucky I am that you appeared
    FcSeeker: nobody has told me that any other panda would have a gf
    Dash (dash.earthboy): XXXXX unfortunately you've missed the regular session
    Dash (dash.earthboy): another will be along in about 4 and a half hours
    Wol Euler: yes, they run for an hour, typically
    -- BELL --
    Wol Euler: 1am 7am 1pm 7pm SL time
    XXXXX: wait a second, i have to read the notecard to the end
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Hokon Cazalet: aww Fc
    Hokon Cazalet: thats sad, in my world, everyone has a friend =)
    FcSeeker: maybe you ddnt' know what a great thing you created :)))))
    Hokon Cazalet: =)
    Wol Euler: my dears, I am too tired, I have to go to bed
    Wol Euler: goodnight, enjoy the rest of the day/evening
    Hokon Cazalet: goodnighty Wol
    Wol Euler: be happy bears
    Hokon Cazalet: hehe
    FcSeeker: wishes very good night to you Wol

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