2011.07.03 19:00 - Roses by Other Names

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Calvino Rabeni. The comments are by Calvino Rabeni.

    iwandertoo Resident: waves
    Calvino Rabeni: Waves back hello over there
    iwandertoo Resident: :)
    Calvino Rabeni: A pleasant summery evening :)
    iwandertoo Resident: it is
    Calvino Rabeni: Good evening, Aphro :)
    iwandertoo Resident: waves
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Calvino. Hi Susan
    Calvino Rabeni: Has summer arrived where you live, too?
    Aphrodite Macbain: Nice to see you both here. Yes, Vancouver has been blissfully sunny and warm
    Aphrodite Macbain: Went for a three-hour walk
    Aphrodite Macbain: I hope you both took advantage of it
    Calvino Rabeni: that sounds wonderful
    iwandertoo Resident: that does sound like a great walk
    iwandertoo Resident: been indoors all day
    Aphrodite Macbain: Lunch with a friend, walk around the sea wall to Granville Island, tea with friend. Ferry home.
    Aphrodite Macbain: Packing Susan?
    Calvino Rabeni: I went to a rose garden and another hillside walk
    Aphrodite Macbain: A rolse garden. How lovely. Were they blooming already?
    Aphrodite Macbain: rose
    iwandertoo Resident: packing yes...rose gardens are wonderful
    Aphrodite Macbain: They smell so good!
    Calvino Rabeni: it's surprising there is so much difference and distinction between the different roses
    Calvino Rabeni: tell me, is it your impression that different colours have distinct scents?
    Aphrodite Macbain: I wish I had a little plot of land to grow roses on. Yes, it would be nice to understand the differences
    Calvino Rabeni: It seems to me to be so, year after year
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hmm. I find that the older the rose the more scent it has
    Calvino Rabeni: but others I asked - more expert than I perhaps, claimed not
    Calvino Rabeni: After sampling all the colors, I'd say there doesn't seem to be any specific "rose" scent I could find, that they have in common
    Aphrodite Macbain: that colour is not a determinant of scent?
    Calvino Rabeni: Yes
    Calvino Rabeni: somehow to me it seems that way
    Calvino Rabeni: if not a determinant, then a correspondance
    Aphrodite Macbain: The scent determines how many bees and butterflies visit the ros I would think
    Aphrodite Macbain: So the sweeter smelling s/b the hardiest
    Aphrodite Macbain: That's my theory and I'm sticking to it!
    Calvino Rabeni: Like little wild roses being the "fiercest" ? :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: :-) more thorns too I would think!
    Calvino Rabeni: Thinks of how savage seems the tiny chihuahua compared to the mellow laborador retriever
    Aphrodite Macbain: My favourite is the Peace rose
    Calvino Rabeni: What's that one like?

    Aphrodite Macbain: Perhaps it's the yappiness that makes them seem fierce
    Calvino Rabeni: ah yes, fierce, yappy, a more concentrated intensity
    Aphrodite Macbain: http://www.google.ca/search?q=peace+rose+pictures&hl=en&biw=1246&bih=800&prmd=ivns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=TyIRTrvRJ4bjiAKEtLnlDQ&ved=0CBoQsAQ
    iwandertoo Resident: those are lovely
    Calvino Rabeni: Very nice, I saw these today.
    Aphrodite Macbain: Ultimately rather irritating - exccept to the owner
    Calvino Rabeni: How so?
    Aphrodite Macbain: Where was the garden?
    Aphrodite Macbain: yap yap yap yap yap
    Calvino Rabeni: heheh
    Aphrodite Macbain: grr
    Calvino Rabeni: oh, I was thinking, I didn't see these peace roses misbehaving today
    Calvino Rabeni: in the rose garden at Woodland Park
    Aphrodite Macbain: Is Woodland Park in Portland?
    Aphrodite Macbain: I'll google map it!
    Calvino Rabeni: It is in Seattle
    Calvino Rabeni: Yes :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: Oh. I thought you lived in Oregon
    Aphrodite Macbain: But I suppose it's an hour's ride away
    Aphrodite Macbain: Are you both going to celebrate July 4 tomorrow?
    iwandertoo Resident: packing...
    iwandertoo Resident: you?
    Aphrodite Macbain: I dont celebrate July 4. I celebrate Canada Day on July 1. Except I dont except to hear the fieworks going off at 10;30
    Aphrodite Macbain: fireworks

    Editor's note:  I like that, as a freudian slip or found metaphor ... "fieworks" ... where people gather and say "fie!" on various things..

    Fie:  interjection

    1.(used to express mild disgust, disapprobation, annoyance, etc.)
    2.(used to express the humorous pretense of being shocked.)

    Calvino Rabeni: I think I may do - this - http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...
    Calvino Rabeni: (long link huh?)
    Aphrodite Macbain: Holey Moley!! Big fireworks!
    Aphrodite Macbain: where's that?
    Aphrodite Macbain: I feel uncomfortable about big patriotic demonstrations
    Aphrodite Macbain: but it was nice that we got a visit from "the Royals"
    Calvino Rabeni: Seattle Gas Works Park
    Calvino Rabeni: http://www.google.com/search?q=seattle+gasworks+fourth+of+july&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=niZ&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&prmd=ivnscm&source=lnms&tbm=isch&ei=pSMRTrrULfTYiAKE0eH7DQ&sa=X&oi=mode_link&ct=mode&cd=2&ved=0CA0Q_AUoAQ&biw=961&bih=757
    Calvino Rabeni: What / who are "Royals"
    Calvino Rabeni: Hi Paradise :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: Kate and William
    Paradise Tennant: smiles hiya cal aphrodite susan :))
    Aphrodite Macbain: England's future king...
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Paradise
    Aphrodite Macbain: brb. cooking dinner
    Paradise Tennant: smiles what is on the menu aph :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: chicken and cranberry sausages, corn, rice and a salad
    Paradise Tennant: wow sounds great :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: come on over!
    Paradise Tennant: smiles :) lol
    Aphrodite Macbain: and to all present

    Aphrodite Macbain: Are you celebrating July 4 Paradise?
    Paradise Tennant: smiles yes have family in town we have doing lots of the jazz concerts .. about towning stuff ..took two days of work so still on holiday tomorrow been serious fun :)
    Paradise Tennant: smiles what shall we talk of tonight :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: we've been taling about roses, holidays, fireworks
    Paradise Tennant: all good things :)
    Paradise Tennant: fireworks better at a distance .. once watched a fireworks display at a little town up north put on by the local fire department whole town was on the beach watching .. blankets chairs coolers .. they set their own barge on fire :)))
    Calvino Rabeni: that's the way to do it :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: lots of action then!
    Aphrodite Macbain: a night to remember
    Calvino Rabeni: fire department self-test
    Paradise Tennant: love .. the human pagentry of groups of people trying to figure things out .. have a collection of photos :) very entertaining the focused expressions and immediate intent of their body stances
    Paradise Tennant: lots of red faces :)
    Calvino Rabeni: ah nice, where did you collect those?
    Paradise Tennant: hmmm just over time ..
    Paradise Tennant: once was on a train in the middle of a very cold winter day minus 40 on a train broken down outside of huntsville ...
    Calvino Rabeni: that's a great idea
    Paradise Tennant: broke down in the middle of a forest
    Aphrodite Macbain: and you had a camera on the ready?
    Paradise Tennant: engineers standing around in circles .. holding up maps .. looking at the sun :))
    Aphrodite Macbain: at leas t there WAS sun
    Paradise Tennant: yes always carry either my phone which has a camera or a little digital
    Calvino Rabeni: I started doing that
    Aphrodite Macbain: what do you do with these pix?
    Calvino Rabeni: Got a few good ones that way, but have to be ready to react
    Aphrodite Macbain: I find they fill up my C drive
    Paradise Tennant: hmmm have not set up any particular order have lots of pics
    Paradise Tennant: like them .. a lot .. they take you back to the moment
    Paradise Tennant: make you smile
    Calvino Rabeni: I upload some of them to photo sharing
    Aphrodite Macbain: you never know when you might need one..
    stevenaia Michinaga: like a journal
    Calvino Rabeni: Yes
    Paradise Tennant: smiles hiya stev :))
    stevenaia Michinaga: image journal
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hiya Stevenaia
    stevenaia Michinaga: hehe
    stevenaia Michinaga: wave
    stevenaia Michinaga: ss
    Aphrodite Macbain: Does anyone keep photo albums any more?
    Calvino Rabeni: Online
    Aphrodite Macbain: I should try that. What do you recommend?
    Aphrodite Macbain: Facebook?
    Calvino Rabeni: I like picasa
    Calvino Rabeni: it is part of google
    stevenaia Michinaga: flickr
    Aphrodite Macbain: I'll look into it - a female pacasso?
    Aphrodite Macbain: Picasso
    Aphrodite Macbain: flicr is the same as picasa?
    stevenaia Michinaga: similar
    Aphrodite Macbain: has the same properties?
    Aphrodite Macbain: I suppose you dond't have the privacy
    Paradise Tennant: yes I have some old photo albums ..tin types even of family .. I put together a famly album for my brother one year that had portraits of all our family going back before there were even tin types just water colours :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: Lovely Paradise
    Paradise Tennant: nice to be able to look at the faces the eyes :)
    Paradise Tennant: he has always travelled a lot .. so nice to have something that holds your roots in one spot :)

    stevenaia Michinaga: now they have face recognition, not sure what to do with that
    Aphrodite Macbain: ??
    Calvino Rabeni: I noticed that too
    Calvino Rabeni: When I had a complicated photo of a shopping center
    stevenaia Michinaga: the computers tell you who people are, can;t say I used it, unless they can identify relatives I keep forgetting
    Calvino Rabeni: and the software wanted me to assign a name
    Calvino Rabeni: "who's this" ?
    Calvino Rabeni: turned out it was Colonel Sanders, the chicken magnate
    stevenaia Michinaga: I would want it to say... this is so and so
    Aphrodite Macbain: lol sounds like Facebook
    Calvino Rabeni: When Youtube first came out, I didn't see what might emerge from it ... like having a cross section index of a specific aspect of culture
    Calvino Rabeni: I thought - not so cool except for funny pet tricks
    Calvino Rabeni: but it turned out to afford lots of creative conversations as well as interesting studies
    Aphrodite Macbain: That sure has changed
    Aphrodite Macbain: -the funny pet tricks remain though
    Calvino Rabeni: For instance "Act 3, Scene 1"
    Calvino Rabeni: you can see all the versions of a famous soliloquy
    Aphrodite Macbain: ??
    Calvino Rabeni: and find out who puts the "Ham" in Hamlet
    Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
    Paradise Tennant: smiles
    Calvino Rabeni: "To be, or NOT to be... THAT is the QUESTION...."
    Aphrodite Macbain: being is better
    Aphrodite Macbain: than not being
    iwandertoo Resident: nods
    Calvino Rabeni: It takes one into cultural history a bit also, to see what passes as good acting since the start of cinema
    Paradise Tennant: love youtube it like a window into someone else's world plus I could not function anymore without access to all the self help videos last one I used was in chinese but worked if I watched it 13 times and just looked at what his hands were doing :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: where did you find this?
    stevenaia Michinaga: there is one by a relative of Paradise, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYZHb2xo0OI
    Aphrodite Macbain: I like the cooking videos
    stevenaia Michinaga: (same last name)
    Paradise Tennant: smiles
    Aphrodite Macbain: Tennant is very good! Thanks Stevenaia

    Paradise Tennant: sometimes it captures glimpses of the miracle of life .. that you would miss .. was in the park the other day and watched a little english bull dog bounce a soccer ball off his head 8 times in row.. if I had a video cameral with me and had been able to set up the shot .. it would have gone viral :))
    Calvino Rabeni: That shows an influence of cinema relative to stage I think ... puts one in the place of the eavesdroppers who were listening in on Hamlet, gives it a more internal feeling
    Paradise Tennant: what is wonderful .. is that is there is no threshold really to access so everyone can share their thoughts their work their understanding ..the poignant moments of their life that they think have appeal
    Calvino Rabeni: Yes, and expressive too
    Calvino Rabeni: like the one-person quartets
    Paradise Tennant: yes !
    Aphrodite Macbain: one-person quartets!
    Calvino Rabeni: yes, it takes some talent
    Calvino Rabeni: to sing the different harmony voices
    Calvino Rabeni: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlW5c4tInvY
    Calvino Rabeni: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Weo1abciQ9M
    Aphrodite Macbain: Nice!! very
    Calvino Rabeni: That one is a clearer quartet
    Paradise Tennant: big smiles here :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: I'm back in the 50s!
    Paradise Tennant: great voice :)))
    Calvino Rabeni: I was trying to update to the 70's but coudn't find a 1-person conver of Psycho Killer :)
    Paradise Tennant: smiles
    Calvino Rabeni: Make that early 80's ?
    Aphrodite Macbain: brb
    Paradise Tennant: is getting hungry at the thought of cranberry sausages :)) .. only thing cooking here at the moment is dog soup :))
    stevenaia Michinaga: you cooking your dog? (bath?)

    Paradise Tennant: lol no making him chicken soup
    Paradise Tennant: opps sorry bell
    Calvino Rabeni: Here it is ... not one-man, but it is acappella
    Calvino Rabeni: Hmm, dog soup ... I FEAR to google that one for videos
    Paradise Tennant: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eeX9rdmld0&feature=related
    Paradise Tennant: psycho killer talking heads 1973 ;))
    Calvino Rabeni: That's nice, thanks
    Calvino Rabeni: Talking Heads were cultural pioneers
    Paradise Tennant: they look so young :)))
    Paradise Tennant: so stev cal you have a holiday tomorrow :))) how are you celebrating :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: big backyard BBQ get together, friends from Montreal coming
    Calvino Rabeni: I plan to go to the mass fireworks celebration ... and get my fill of huge group energy for the entire year
    Aphrodite Macbain: Tres bien
    Calvino Rabeni: If I'm a bit careful it will last an entire year
    stevenaia Michinaga: local people, should be music, harpist, we may break out in song
    stevenaia Michinaga: will post videos if I can get them in tune
    Aphrodite Macbain: Yayy
    Calvino Rabeni: I will carry my cam if I go
    Paradise Tennant: smiles big smiles :) sounds lovely full of good food .. and sparks :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: spouse was baking pies today
    Aphrodite Macbain: I will expect some images on Tuesday
    stevenaia Michinaga: lots of beer and wine left from cousin's wedding a frew weeks ago as they couldn;t take it back to California with them...awwwww
    Calvino Rabeni: Did someone say pies?
    stevenaia Michinaga: blueberry and chocolate silk
    Aphrodite Macbain: mmmm
    Paradise Tennant: hmmmm chocolate silk pies you are a lucky one :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: w/ whipped cream
    Calvino Rabeni: (!)
    Paradise Tennant: ouch !
    Aphrodite Macbain: OMG
    Calvino Rabeni: That must have been the honeymoon pie
    Paradise Tennant: should be all manner of silk on a honeymoon :)
    Paradise Tennant: i rented Mr. Nice for my brother .. he spent many years travelling in india pakistan tibe .. he is rapt with attention here :)

    stevenaia Michinaga: everyone gets a peice
    Calvino Rabeni: Thanks, looks good from the outside :)
    Calvino Rabeni: I think I gained weight just looking
    Calvino Rabeni: So I'm seriously considering having Kale for dinner
    Aphrodite Macbain: Kale is delicious - especially with cumin and pork
    stevenaia Michinaga: lol, cover it with ice cream and you will be fine
    Paradise Tennant: stev that is a work of great beauty :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: sorry, gave Paradise two pieces
    Paradise Tennant: hmm like it shredded raw as the basis for a salad
    Aphrodite Macbain: Cooking as being; eating as being. This is making me fat
    stevenaia Michinaga: some things need to happen in RL
    Calvino Rabeni: The looking happens in SL, the gaining in RL
    Aphrodite Macbain: Yes. and I'm going to do them!
    stevenaia Michinaga: everyone leaving to get food?
    Paradise Tennant: real life has more texture
    stevenaia Michinaga: pass me the dog soup, Paradise
    Calvino Rabeni: Yes, one can sink one's teeth into RL
    Calvino Rabeni: OR get a grip on it
    Paradise Tennant: lol actually taste a bit of ginger a mix of veggies
    Aphrodite Macbain: Pass me the dog soup and I'll go home. Nite all!
    Paradise Tennant: lol
    Paradise Tennant: good nite aph enjoy your dinner :)
    Paradise Tennant: *tasty
    stevenaia Michinaga: time to call it a night too, bye paradise, enjoy your Kale, Cal
    stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    Paradise Tennant: nite nite stev :)
    Paradise Tennant: a poem go round to wind it down cal ?
    Calvino Rabeni: I need to attend to the Kale
    Calvino Rabeni: Thanks for the conversation Para
    Paradise Tennant: lol good nite cal :)
    Paradise Tennant: namaste my friend :)
    Paradise Tennant: hiya fz123 you just missed the session would you like an info card :)

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