2011.09.04 19:00 - Mycelium is Yourcelium

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Calvino Rabeni. The comments are by Calvino Rabeni.

    Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Cal
    Aphrodite Macbain: Nice evening
    Calvino Rabeni: Hi Aph ... it is, a bit warm and cooling nicely
    Aphrodite Macbain: Nothing like a balmy summer evening.
    Calvino Rabeni: It would have been a good day to be out and about
    Calvino Rabeni: that's for sure
    Aphrodite Macbain: Were you inside?
    Calvino Rabeni: Mostly yes, except for a walk, and some chores
    Calvino Rabeni: Good evening Zaldaan
    Zaldaan Sirnah: Calvino :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: I spent all morning in SL - moving from one place to another. Finally broke away and took my camera for a walk around Beaver lake in Stanley Park.
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Zaldaan
    Aphrodite Macbain: I hope to make paintings from the pix
    Calvino Rabeni: nice thought
    Calvino Rabeni: the other day my camera did something unexpected
    Aphrodite Macbain: Yes?
    Calvino Rabeni: and the photos of the water lillies were "monet-ized"
    Calvino Rabeni: but I couldn't make any money from it
    Aphrodite Macbain: cool. let me see?
    Aphrodite Macbain: already been done?
    Calvino Rabeni: (goes to fetch)
    Aphrodite Macbain: are you a photographer Zaldaan?
    Aphrodite Macbain goes to get her camera


    Calvino Rabeni: ah here it is
    Calvino Rabeni: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/LUPM2NeBLTOQ5gm7IdRVbUWm4hVzksqh3-QmDn25lJE?feat=directlink
    Aphrodite Macbain: Very lovely. Turtles basking in the sun + lilies.
    Aphrodite Macbain: How did that happen I wondr
    Calvino Rabeni: some combination of the exposure and a "pixel zoom"
    Calvino Rabeni: it was on far telephoto setting
    Aphrodite Macbain wonders what pixel zoom is
    Aphrodite Macbain: ah. very impressionistic result. Lovely
    Calvino Rabeni: the camera is just a little snapshot camera with automatic settings
    Calvino Rabeni: yes
    Aphrodite Macbain: Do you have more or was there just one
    Calvino Rabeni: the pixel zoom means that after the lens has gone as far as it can, the software enlarges fewer pixels in the center of the image and then blends them to pretend it is seeing a smaller field


    Aphrodite Macbain: smart camera!
    Calvino Rabeni: yes the camera is smarter than me, in that area of life

    Calvino Rabeni: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/5uxVoytUxJqujojjMY1wFEWm4hVzksqh3-QmDn25lJE?feat=directlink
    Calvino Rabeni: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/cB96ZG8AmWFU6zYLI9qDUUWm4hVzksqh3-QmDn25lJE?feat=directlink
    Aphrodite Macbain: Looks like you were at the same place I was!!
    Aphrodite Macbain: same waterlilies, same heron
    Calvino Rabeni: Sure, I think this looks just the same
    Aphrodite Macbain: really nice
    Aphrodite Macbain: maybe u could use it as wallpaper
    Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
    Calvino Rabeni: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/w3vphAaVy-8_QKugOgP9XEWm4hVzksqh3-QmDn25lJE?feat=directlink
    Calvino Rabeni: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/hUJFe-DjikiJ5V_8AdcaCEWm4hVzksqh3-QmDn25lJE?feat=directlink
    Calvino Rabeni: That last photo got kind of pixilated too
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Santoshima
    Aphrodite Macbain: GTSY
    Santoshima Resident: greetings everyone
    Calvino Rabeni: Good evening Santo
    Aphrodite Macbain: greetings to U
    Aphrodite Macbain: What have you done on this lovely day?
    Santoshima Resident: me?
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes you!
    Santoshima Resident: uh, emails, getting ready for fall classes
    Aphrodite Macbain: Yes it did but the heron came out clearly
    Santoshima Resident: i'll look for the photo cal
    Aphrodite Macbain: Cal and I were out photographing. I was at Beaver lake in Stanley Park
    Santoshima Resident: wow
    Aphrodite Macbain: But it looks like we were at the same place
    Calvino Rabeni: http://www.tripleman.com/images/20060805113211_stanleyp_26.jpg
    Aphrodite Macbain: This is my favourite time of year
    Aphrodite Macbain: Wow, that's the best yet. What am I seeing?
    Aphrodite Macbain: ducks?
    Calvino Rabeni: It's not mine, it was in the lineup at http://www.google.com/search?q=beaver+lake+stanley+park&hl=en&prmd=ivnsom&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=KDJkTv-PDcShsQLf_6SSCg&ved=0CC4QsAQ&biw=949&bih=720
    Santoshima Resident: nice
    Calvino Rabeni: yes ducks
    Aphrodite Macbain: hehe. very clever Cal
    Aphrodite Macbain: that's exactly where I was! Maybe I'll add my pix to them
    Calvino Rabeni: Today I was reading about design based on nature
    Calvino Rabeni: there's the lotus leaf
    Aphrodite Macbain: those woodducks ae really beautiful
    Calvino Rabeni: which cleans itself
    Aphrodite Macbain: the ducks or the lotus?
    Calvino Rabeni: yes they are painted looking
    Calvino Rabeni: the lotus leaf cleans itself
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes
    Calvino Rabeni: dirt cannot stick to it
    Aphrodite Macbain: like harlequin ducks
    Calvino Rabeni: nods
    Aphrodite Macbain: the lotus is always pure
    Santoshima Resident: where are you located, Cal?
    Santoshima Resident: if I can ask ...
    Calvino Rabeni: yes it has a reputation for being pure though it lives in mud
    Aphrodite Macbain: nice metaphor for a lotus
    Calvino Rabeni: Pacific Northwest, Washington, USA ... Puget Sound area
    Aphrodite Macbain: not far from here
    Santoshima Resident: ty for the photos!
    Calvino Rabeni: The other interesting nature design (in the thing I read) is the Basilisk Lizard, that can walk (run actually) on water
    Aphrodite Macbain: It moves so fast?
    Aphrodite Macbain: that it doesn't have a chance to sink?
    Calvino Rabeni: yes .. and it has special feet
    Santoshima Resident: very special feet
    iwandertoo Resident: surface tension
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Susan!
    Santoshima Resident: hi susan
    Calvino Rabeni waves to iwandertoo
    iwandertoo Resident: waves
    Aphrodite Macbain: makes me tense thinking about it. Imagine having to keep moving our you'll sink!

    Aphrodite Macbain: How do I import a document into SL?
    Santoshima Resident: hey stevenaia
    stevenaia Michinaga: waves
    Calvino Rabeni: Your comment reminded me to slow down during the pause, Aph :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: iya Stevenaia
    stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    Calvino Rabeni: and when I did, I sunk :)
    Calvino Rabeni: Hi Stevenaia
    Aphrodite Macbain: He he. Stop moving!
    Aphrodite Macbain: blub blub
    stevenaia Michinaga: wonders what is is about this time slot that fits in with my schedule so nicely
    Aphrodite Macbain: It may b the ame tomorrow Stevenaia- since it too is a holiday
    Aphrodite Macbain: be the same
    stevenaia Michinaga: most 7:00 PM slots :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: I'm trying to import a pic I took today. Can someone remind me where I go to do this?
    Santoshima Resident: http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/life/Lizard#p004rqsv
    Calvino Rabeni: thanks
    stevenaia Michinaga: File upload (for 10 lindens)
    Calvino Rabeni: This little video is pretty dramatic http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45yabrnryXk
    Calvino Rabeni: this one shows some talking, lunch, a sneaking up villain, and then the lizard runs like crazy at the end
    Calvino Rabeni: I think though they have to be under a certain size
    Aphrodite Macbain: Good old Jesus Christ Lizard
    Calvino Rabeni: (the photo upload)
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes I know
    Aphrodite Macbain: lol
    Aphrodite Macbain: Where does it say "file upload"?
    stevenaia Michinaga: Under the file menu
    stevenaia Michinaga: submenu of upload
    Calvino Rabeni: which viewer do you have?
    stevenaia Michinaga: aww I have Phoenix
    stevenaia Michinaga: and a very slow in terent connection tonight
    Santoshima Resident: but not invisible tonight, that's something
    Aphrodite Macbain: I found it. it's under S21 (I have Kirstens Viewer)
    stevenaia Michinaga: I can relog with Kirstens if you wnat me to look?

    Right about now your editor's computer crashed due to overheating on this hot summer evening.  The backup computer didn't work either.  Eventually the backup backup computer did work, but by then the "middle" of the session was over, for this editor, at least.

    Santoshima Resident: bye Cal ?
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bye
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bye! Santo
    iwandertoo Resident: i think he is going to try a diferent viewer....?
    Santoshima Resident: no, i'm sticking around
    Santoshima Resident: cal seems to have left ...
    iwandertoo Resident: i think cal maybe trying a different viewer to help Aphrodite
    Santoshima Resident: yes
    stevenaia Michinaga: did you upload it Aph?
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes
    Aphrodite Macbain: no problem once I found where I could do it
    Aphrodite Macbain: Did you get it?
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes, loading now
    Santoshima Resident: is the topic photography, tonight?
    Aphrodite Macbain: not really
    Aphrodite Macbain: Both Cal andf I went photographing to day
    iwandertoo Resident: RL or SL?
    iwandertoo Resident: or i possibly both....
    stevenaia Michinaga: nice Aph
    Aphrodite Macbain: RL for me
    Aphrodite Macbain: It's the water with leaves, not sure if you can see it well, can you Cal?
    Aphrodite Macbain: Oops Cal's disappeared
    stevenaia Michinaga: I jsut took pictures of desserts spouse was making
    stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    iwandertoo Resident: :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: mmmmm
    iwandertoo Resident: this is lovely, Aphrodite. thank you
    Aphrodite Macbain: I think my picture made Cal crash!
    Aphrodite Macbain: Thanks Susan
    Aphrodite Macbain: It will be a challenge to paint it
    iwandertoo Resident: it is a reflection of the sky against the water?
    Aphrodite Macbain: sort of its a real collage of reflections
    stevenaia Michinaga: do you paint in oils or acrylics?
    Aphrodite Macbain: watercolours
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Luci
    Santoshima Resident: please excuse me ~ namaskar
    iwandertoo Resident: waves
    Aphrodite Macbain: namaste
    Aphrodite Macbain: santo. Be well
    Santoshima Resident: hi luci, see you some other time
    Lucinda Lavender: Hi Aph...
    iwandertoo Resident: waves to Luci
    Lucinda Lavender: good evening Santoshima

    Aphrodite Macbain: I'm afraid I have to feed myslff now
    Aphrodite Macbain: or I'll faint
    Lucinda Lavender: any certain thoughts during the pause?
    Aphrodite Macbain: I hope Cal returns
    iwandertoo Resident: waves
    Lucinda Lavender: have a good dinner Aph!
    stevenaia Michinaga: nigh Aph, (what's for dinner?
    Aphrodite Macbain: chicken teryaki (sp?)
    stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    Lucinda Lavender: :) yum
    Aphrodite Macbain: kale, potatos
    Aphrodite Macbain: fresh heirloom tomatos
    Aphrodite Macbain: y'all come over
    Lucinda Lavender: ok:) be right there...
    iwandertoo Resident: :)
    Lucinda Lavender: kale recipes needed:)
    Lucinda Lavender: someday
    iwandertoo Resident: brb
    Lucinda Lavender: tonight I went to yoga class..first time in a while.
    stevenaia Michinaga: feel better ot sore?
    Lucinda Lavender: there was an interesting intro about how we can have focussed awareness with tension and also without...:) feel a little challenged
    stevenaia Michinaga: oo that reminds me, forgot to log my 99 day thoughts

    Back, on the backup backup...

    stevenaia Michinaga: wb Cal
    Calvino Rabeni: thanks ...
    stevenaia Michinaga: brb
    Lucinda Lavender: teacher described trying to sleep in a dorm with fleas hopping about...Hi Cal:)
    Calvino Rabeni: I seriously crashed for a while
    Lucinda Lavender: oh wow...glas your back tho
    Lucinda Lavender: how are the 99 day thoughts going
    Lucinda Lavender: Steve
    Lucinda Lavender: "glad"
    stevenaia Michinaga: good, happy to ahve them
    stevenaia Michinaga: and continue my practive
    stevenaia Michinaga: practice
    Lucinda Lavender: nice...
    Lucinda Lavender: brb

    stevenaia Michinaga: was showing Tai Chi to an 11 year old, she seemed quiet and interested :)
    Calvino Rabeni: nice experience :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes, took just enough time to light the charcoal :)
    Calvino Rabeni: that might be long enogh for a lifetime impression
    Lucinda Lavender: back
    stevenaia Michinaga: her mother takes yoga at the same studio I take Tai Chi
    Calvino Rabeni: I always like seeing people doing their form in the park. Especially old men with long white beards :)
    iwandertoo Resident: waves...best to everyone
    stevenaia Michinaga: bye susan
    Calvino Rabeni: (excuse me though, a crash is coming up)
    Calvino Rabeni: Bye susan
    Lucinda Lavender: bye Susan and cal...
    stevenaia Michinaga: we learn individually, only now and then do we do it together, when we do, it's nice
    stevenaia Michinaga: reminds me of my cat an his hair balls, you always know they are coming
    Lucinda Lavender: :)(
    stevenaia Michinaga: bedtime for me, night all
    Lucinda Lavender: night Steve
    Calvino Rabeni: Good night, stevenaia

    Calvino Rabeni: Strange session ... I crashed and restarted 3 times, trying different computers
    Calvino Rabeni: and when I got back, the session is pretty much over
    Calvino Rabeni: I had a nap in afternoon. someone I think knocked on the door. I was dreaming i was dreaming in my other house, and trying to get up in that one to answer the door,  alarmed my body would not move after I woke up in the dream of dreaming...then I woke up in the right place... it was a lot of struggle.
    Lucinda Lavender: ah...interesting and kind of strange in feeling huh?
    Lucinda Lavender: deep place of sleep is hard to move out of sometimes
    Lucinda Lavender: that frozen feeling with confusion

    Calvino Rabeni: yes when one is lucid but body is asleep, it is a strange feeling
    Lucinda Lavender: body not able to cooperate
    Calvino Rabeni: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/S-Qm55luVVtxJJ267CgFkgXNlaDpeRRHJqslsGVhpCc?feat=directlink
    Calvino Rabeni: Yes, the body is offline, but the image of it is online
    Calvino Rabeni: usually those work together so seamlessly
    Lucinda Lavender: except during a deep sleep
    Calvino Rabeni: you've heard of the "phantom limb" experience ...
    Lucinda Lavender: yes
    Calvino Rabeni: I think this was the whole phantom body
    Lucinda Lavender: hmmm
    Lucinda Lavender: went to yoga for the first time in the whole summer
    Lucinda Lavender: and heard an interesting story about the teacher experiencing focussed awareness with fear/tension and seeing that as a choice.
    Lucinda Lavender: He so hard to settle the body sometimes
    Lucinda Lavender: His experience was sleeping in a dorm with fleas...watching them...
    Calvino Rabeni: yes it's interesting ... what happens, the result of which is, it appears as a choice?
    Lucinda Lavender: well in doing the yoga the focussed awareness seems to be accompanied by openess after a whil;e
    Calvino Rabeni: Does it require yoga practice training to do that?

    Calvino Rabeni: The "after a while" .. makes it appear the result of an ability acquired through practice
    Calvino Rabeni: Hello oO0Oo
    Lucinda Lavender: I imagine not...it was just the start of the class that he spoke of this..it reminded me of discussions here where look at being present while having something stressful going on. Hi Samuo
    oO0Oo Resident: Hi Lucinda, Cal
    Calvino Rabeni: I wonder how much "being tired" for example, can be a choice?
    Lucinda Lavender: well I bet not...
    Lucinda Lavender: seems like you could cultivate awakeness for a while but eventually sleep would be needed...
    Calvino Rabeni: At the start of the session we were looking at a video of the Basilisk Lizard which can run across the surface of water, as long as it doesn't slow down
    Lucinda Lavender: maybe the teacher did not say it was a choice...I may have paraphrased too strongly there.
    Calvino Rabeni: Being tired is sure to be a very complex state of the body and mind... I think a lot of it can be dropped or brought into the realm of being a "choice"
    Lucinda Lavender: sounds like the lizard was sort of flying...
    Calvino Rabeni: going patty patty patty over the top of the water
    Calvino Rabeni: lots of little splashes
    Calvino Rabeni: and bouncing up from them
    Lucinda Lavender: like the sound Patty patty
    oO0Oo Resident: me grins
    Calvino Rabeni: :)
    Calvino Rabeni: I imagined that as the sound when I saw the video
    Calvino Rabeni: have you had any seasonal rituals?
    Lucinda Lavender: had a big fire last night
    Calvino Rabeni: for instance today it was watermelon, that is a sort of marker of the season
    Lucinda Lavender: wish I could share it with you both
    Lucinda Lavender: had watermelon too:)
    Lucinda Lavender: found my computer works out by the firepit
    Lucinda Lavender: and the changing of the oil in the car
    Lucinda Lavender: do it when it gets hot out
    Calvino Rabeni: ahem mm .. the washing of the motorcycles
    Calvino Rabeni: and the crashing of the computers due to overheating :)
    Lucinda Lavender: nodding
    Lucinda Lavender: visiting of the relatives

    oO0Oo Resident enjoys listening to Cal and luci's kind and familiar regard for each other, and appreciates how this extends out to simple listeners with toes in the grass.
    Lucinda Lavender: :)
    Calvino Rabeni: the sweeping of the roof
    Lucinda Lavender: triming of the grape
    Calvino Rabeni: harvest time
    Lucinda Lavender: to let the grapes get juicier
    Calvino Rabeni: the cleaning of the gutters
    Lucinda Lavender: ah! and the gutters on the vanagon
    Lucinda Lavender: the plug up too
    Calvino Rabeni: I forgot you lived in a forested area
    Calvino Rabeni: needles?
    Lucinda Lavender: yes...so many
    Lucinda Lavender: under the big fir
    Calvino Rabeni: nods .. does it have a pollen production?
    Lucinda Lavender: rituals seem to be about movement to me and change
    Lucinda Lavender: yes a yellow powder
    Calvino Rabeni: markers and participation with natural movements
    Lucinda Lavender: beginnings
    Lucinda Lavender: and endings
    Calvino Rabeni: typically, maybe sometimes middles, less often?
    Calvino Rabeni: how about the midsummer party
    Lucinda Lavender: noting the middle of life
    oO0Oo Resident smiles
    Calvino Rabeni: rituals can cause the middle to get bigger, can't they?
    Lucinda Lavender: :))
    oO0Oo Resident: aw u2
    Lucinda Lavender: so true
    Lucinda Lavender: ah the paint pouring was kind of a ritual
    Lucinda Lavender: of watching something change
    Calvino Rabeni: food is a ritual matter, because of the participation in its preparation
    Calvino Rabeni: or something like, making wine each year and aging it, storing it up for a longer period
    Lucinda Lavender: and its being a filter for love
    Calvino Rabeni: yogurt, cheese, sprouts, bread, cycles of different periods, with their inception and waiting and culmination
    Lucinda Lavender: ate homade cheese for dinner...a cheddar that came out welll
    Calvino Rabeni: made at your place, or by a friend
    Lucinda Lavender: became a little moldy on one side
    Lucinda Lavender: at home here
    Lucinda Lavender: kept leaking through the red wax...so we called it the leaky cheese
    Calvino Rabeni: what makes it cheddar?
    Lucinda Lavender: moldy part does not taste great
    Calvino Rabeni: sounds like you ate it :)
    Lucinda Lavender: we do not know
    Lucinda Lavender: tried a bit
    Lucinda Lavender: lthought there was a chance it would taste ok but alas no
    Lucinda Lavender: the unmoldy parts are fine tho!
    Lucinda Lavender: Luci passes imaginary cheese to you both
    oO0Oo Resident smiles and accepts gladly
    Calvino Rabeni: thanks

    Calvino Rabeni: Fermentation is a bit of a mystery
    Lucinda Lavender: bacteria that feeds until it cannot find food I guess
    Calvino Rabeni: its interesting that it is as stable as it is
    Calvino Rabeni: like yogurt ... pretty consistent
    Calvino Rabeni: even though bacteria easily "evolve" and change
    Calvino Rabeni: molds seem pretty wild too
    Lucinda Lavender: yes
    Calvino Rabeni: kefir is stable... sourdough also
    Calvino Rabeni: sauerkraut doesn't even need a starter, and it seems consistent
    Lucinda Lavender: have not ever made kefir...
    Lucinda Lavender: love kraut
    Lucinda Lavender: have some with apple
    Calvino Rabeni: I had some kim chi, but it was pretty hot and salty
    Calvino Rabeni: after I washed it though it was pretty good
    Lucinda Lavender: :))
    Lucinda Lavender: good image
    Lucinda Lavender: laid it out to dry?
    Lucinda Lavender: maybe not
    Calvino Rabeni: occasionally there's a fair in the neighborhood here, teaching many of those pre-industrial skills
    oO0Oo Resident: Did you see the david Abram video that Paradise shared.. expressing "wild" and featuring mold in the fridge?
    Calvino Rabeni: I had it on my browser but lost it in a crash
    Lucinda Lavender: sounds interesting:)
    Calvino Rabeni: was that interesting?
    oO0Oo Resident: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HRR4Mee8Ec
    Calvino Rabeni: Yes, "wild" is all over our bodies all the time
    Calvino Rabeni: our skin is a micro biome
    Calvino Rabeni: inside too .. with more non-human cells than human
    Calvino Rabeni: "I contain multitudes"
    Calvino Rabeni: though I wonder if Walt Whitman had that in mind :)
    oO0Oo Resident: that sounds like an Armage line
    oO0Oo Resident: *Archmage
    Lucinda Lavender: listening
    Lucinda Lavender: chaos involved
    Calvino Rabeni: yes probably, or at least unknown complex cycles that add up unpredictably
    Lucinda Lavender: aircurrents out of our controll
    Calvino Rabeni: chemical cycles that are out of our control
    Lucinda Lavender: Luci attempts to controll:)
    Lucinda Lavender: with sponge:)
    Calvino Rabeni: I was interested in an article I read about a fungus detective ... he travels around investigating mysterious phenomena
    Calvino Rabeni: It's still a mostly unknown scientific domain
    Calvino Rabeni: with only a small percentage of species named and identified
    Lucinda Lavender: this reminds me of my dream from some years ago that it is time to get ready for a time of transformation which will be a little like being a fungus
    Calvino Rabeni: A good science writer - or someone like Abram, can make it more interesting than any detective mystery
    Calvino Rabeni: hmm, you know that resonates
    oO0Oo Resident: mycelium is yourcelium
    Lucinda Lavender: at the time it kind of seemed mysterious so that is usually important
    Lucinda Lavender: :) good one Sam
    Calvino Rabeni: I think I've found a good session title :)

    Lucinda Lavender: How could we be more like a fungus:) one wonders...
    Calvino Rabeni: similar to the mycelium,  are rhyzomes for plants
    Calvino Rabeni: a kind of mat they all connect to
    Lucinda Lavender: so we could become more connected..
    Calvino Rabeni: It even became a popular metaphor in postmodern sociology
    Calvino Rabeni: yes, the idea that underneath we're all connected
    Lucinda Lavender: see the ground as connection place...
    Calvino Rabeni: yes and that symbolizes the invisible
    Calvino Rabeni: like the subconscious
    Lucinda Lavender: nodding
    Calvino Rabeni: or collective unconscious
    Lucinda Lavender: many lines of connection invisibly present
    Calvino Rabeni: yes
    Calvino Rabeni: Here's a gloss of the rhizome notion http://www.sociologyencyclopedia.com/public/tocnode?id=g9781405124331_yr2011_chunk_g978140512433124_ss1-86
    Rasima Petrovic: hello!
    oO0Oo Resident: Hi Rasima
    Lucinda Lavender: creatures of a non-arrestable moving middle!
    Lucinda Lavender: fascinating!
    oO0Oo Resident: "rhizome thought does not have a center since connections may be established at any time between disparate parts. Rhizomes proliferate and their connections multiply, largely unconstrained by hierarchies and preexisting pathways. "
    Lucinda Lavender: HI Rasima
    Calvino Rabeni: :) middle has a way of being present a lot
    Lucinda Lavender: especially:)
    Lucinda Lavender: it must have been the rhyzome consciousness that helped me dream of such...
    Calvino Rabeni nods
    Lucinda Lavender: since I knew nothing consciously about fungus etc
    Calvino Rabeni: yes, but they know about you :)
    Lucinda Lavender: they have my number!
    Lucinda Lavender: ha ha
    Calvino Rabeni: The wild creatures are more aware of us than the other way around
    Calvino Rabeni: :)
    Lucinda Lavender: now they are taking over my house
    Calvino Rabeni: Speaking of middles, the dinner bell has rung
    Lucinda Lavender: great learning tonight:)
    Lucinda Lavender: thanks so much all!
    Calvino Rabeni: Thanks for the company, good night all
    oO0Oo Resident gives a smiling bow toward Luci and Calvino
    Lucinda Lavender: sweet dinner and dreams
    Calvino Rabeni: Take care, fly well, dream mightily
    Lucinda Lavender: like a rhyzome!
    oO0Oo Resident imagines Madonna singing that one... for the very first time
    Lucinda Lavender: :))
    Lucinda Lavender: and it has the word om in it


    Rasima Petrovic: What were you guys talkin about?
    Rasima Petrovic: Rhyzome thought?
    oO0Oo Resident: how things connect in the invisible.. in the mystery

    Rasima Petrovic: oh cool
    Rasima Petrovic: invisable or imperceptible?
    Lucinda Lavender: In the invisible connections...and perhaps we dream into them
    Lucinda Lavender: oops sorry bell
    oO0Oo Resident: Luci had a dream
    oO0Oo Resident: of collective transformation?
    Lucinda Lavender: about getting ready for a time of transformation which would be a little like being a fungus
    oO0Oo Resident: seems timely
    Lucinda Lavender: this idea that rhyzomes connect under the ground like a mat
    Lucinda Lavender: mat/ matrix me thinks
    oO0Oo Resident: another good title
    Lucinda Lavender: had this dream in 03-04
    oO0Oo Resident: april 2003?
    Lucinda Lavender: well either year
    oO0Oo Resident: oh 2003-2004
    Lucinda Lavender: could check...they are all written down
    oO0Oo Resident: that's quite a while keeping track of dreams
    Lucinda Lavender: since 87
    oO0Oo Resident: @@
    oO0Oo Resident: feeling integrated?
    Lucinda Lavender: how so?
    oO0Oo Resident: does your unconscious speak directly to you now?
    Lucinda Lavender: don't remember as many as I used to...but sometimes
    Lucinda Lavender: some very profound statements come out of the dreams
    oO0Oo Resident: Do you remember dreams Rasima?
    Rasima Petrovic: for a short period of time
    Rasima Petrovic: then after a week I usually forget them completely
    Rasima Petrovic: (usually within the hour of waking up I forget them =) )
    Lucinda Lavender: true for me as well
    oO0Oo Resident: I had a dream with Eos and Eliza this morning, but the details have escaped me.
    Lucinda Lavender: unless they are very mysterious...
    Lucinda Lavender: ah...
    Rasima Petrovic: I stopped paying attention to my dreams
    Rasima Petrovic: but when I was a kid
    oO0Oo Resident: For any particular reason?
    Lucinda Lavender: sometimes they seem to be a support when needed
    Rasima Petrovic: or a teen, I would always ponder them
    Rasima Petrovic: yeah I just have other things going on in my life =)
    oO0Oo Resident nods
    Lucinda Lavender: mine were stirred by music and having children
    oO0Oo Resident: Can still remember dreams from my childhood
    Rasima Petrovic: I can remember themes
    Rasima Petrovic: but I can't remember dreams
    Lucinda Lavender: really! have you written them down?
    Rasima Petrovic: my problem is
    Rasima Petrovic: a lot of people say they have "reoccuring dreams", but I'm just wondering if its just one dream that they had, which gives them the impression that they had it before, when they really only ahd it once
    Rasima Petrovic: because, when you're in a dream-like state, you have really different moods
    Rasima Petrovic: you can meet a total stranger, and they'll seem familiar to you
    Rasima Petrovic: i had a dream once where I met what I thought was a younger version of myself
    Lucinda Lavender: very interesting
    Rasima Petrovic: this was just a few years ago.. and my little self was like five
    Rasima Petrovic: but it didn't look like me at all at that age
    Rasima Petrovic: however, it still felt "familiar"

    Lucinda Lavender: these dreams can be perplexing..trying to find it all as true is my way...it requires some stretching and sometimes seems to point to others perhapsbut we place a familiar face in there
    Lucinda Lavender: true in a sense that is not literal
    Lucinda Lavender: and perhaps not personal
    Rasima Petrovic: spiritual truth?
    Lucinda Lavender: yes
    oO0Oo Resident: I'm afraid I need to leave. Thanks for the good conversation. Thanks for the cheese Luci. Good to see you Rasima.
    Rasima Petrovic: you too Samuth!
    Rasima Petrovic: or Samudh?
    Lucinda Lavender: Thanks you Samuo:)
    Rasima Petrovic: how do you transliterate ð?
    oO0Oo Resident smiles... so many versions of my names
    oO0Oo Resident: they all seem good
    oO0Oo Resident: best to you
    Rasima Petrovic: yeah historically ð was used for the "th" in "the"
    Rasima Petrovic: but then they decided to reduce the alphabet to only Latin letters
    Lucinda Lavender: I never noticed the last letter was not an o!
    Lucinda Lavender: ah...
    Rasima Petrovic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%90
    Lucinda Lavender: I Rasima...would love to talk more but am getting warm at the computer:)
    Rasima Petrovic: oh?
    Rasima Petrovic: fever?
    Lucinda Lavender: lovely information...will read about that. no laptop get warm tho
    Rasima Petrovic: oh yeah
    Rasima Petrovic: sure, friend me!
    Lucinda Lavender: and I have been on since 8!
    Rasima Petrovic: ty
    Lucinda Lavender: ty
    Lucinda Lavender: have sweet dreams:)
    Rasima Petrovic: you too =)
    Lucinda Lavender: will do:)
    Lucinda Lavender: bye for now...and nice meeting you.
    Rasima Petrovic: you too =)


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