2011.10.02 08:00 - Guardian Session: Interweaving Realities with or without Snowglobes

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    This week's guardian session was attended by:Adams Rubble : Agatha Macbeth : Alfred Kelberry : Aphrodite Macbain : Bleu Oleander : Bruce Mowbray : Eliza Madrigal : Eos Amaterasu : FcSeeker Resident : Lucinda Lavender : Maxine Walden : Pema Pera : Santoshima Resident : Yakuzza Lethecus

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    Santoshima: hi eos
    Eos Amaterasu: HI San
    Aphrodite Macbain: HiEliza
    Aphrodite Macbain: you're drowning in floor
    Eliza Madrigal: H Aphrodite, Eos, Santoshima ...
    Eliza Madrigal: hmmm
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hi San, Eos
    Eliza Madrigal: I found a pothole
    Aphrodite Macbain: How's the building going?
    Santoshima: hi aph, eliza
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hey pema gtsy
    Aphrodite Macbain: Lovely dress Eliza
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bruce, Aggers
    Eliza Madrigal: We seem to be having seating fun today
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Pema, Aggers, Bruce, Maxine :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Thanks Aphrodite
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hey Maxine!
    Eliza Madrigal: :))
    Pema Pera: hi everybody!
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Hello :)
    Maxine Walden: hi, everyone!
    Maxine Walden: Hi, Aph!!

    Pema Pera: (tricky to try and sit across a sim divide)
    Eliza Madrigal: we're covering more of the hall than usual :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: How was Chicago Bruce?
    Maxine Walden: hi, Santo
    Santoshima: hi maxine
    Bruce (bruce.mowbray): cold, rainy, loud and wonderful!
    Pema Pera: thanks for the bean, Bruce :-)
    Aphrodite Macbain: :-) how did the crutches work?
    Bruce (bruce.mowbray): yw for the bean.
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bean?
    Bruce (bruce.mowbray): Didn't take the crutches -- rented a wheelchair instead -- It worked very well.
    Aphrodite Macbain: Electric?
    Bruce (bruce.mowbray): nope – manual.

    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Bleu :) Nice that you made it through the door :))
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Bleu, Xirana
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): hi everyone :)
    Eliza Madrigal: intriguing appearance
    Eos Amaterasu: hi all!
    Pema Pera: bean: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxfq94eU0x8 as given to us on the 99 day pages
    Aphrodite Macbain: you are all black today - hope that doesn't reflect your mood
    Eos Amaterasu: :-)
    Pema Pera: http://wiki.playasbeing.org/Classes_and_Sessions/The_99_Days_project/99.001_-_2011.09.01/2011.09.30___29
    Aphrodite Macbain: ah. Haven't looked yet today
    Pema Pera: (Bruce's contribution there)
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): no just Burn2

    Adams Rubble: Hello everyone and welcome back retreaters :)

    Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): hi everyone:)
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Adams :) Hi Xirana :)
    Pema Pera would love to hear about the retreat!
    Eliza Madrigal: YES :))
    Eos Amaterasu is all ears
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): me too
    Xirana (xirana.oximoxi) too:)

    Maxine Walden: :) lots to share...
    Aphrodite Macbain: We are planning a big presentation but not today
    Aphrodite Macbain: a theme session during the week perhaps

    Adams Rubble: Thank you for giving the 99 days link Pema. I had lost it
    Pema Pera: it's a great tool for all of us who have "lost it" :-)

    Aphrodite Macbain: We had an amazing time and got to know each other really well
    Aphrodite Macbain: Right Maxine?
    Maxine Walden: right, aph
    Maxine Walden: And to explore aspects of reality (the theme of the retreat) which had more to do with our inner reality and that we discovered between us
    Eliza Madrigal: mmm
    Maxine Walden: that we might have anticipated

    Maxine Walden: Plus views of Puget Sound and Mt Rainier in the background...
    Aphrodite Macbain: Blissful
    Maxine Walden: It really was, wasn't it, Aph
    Aphrodite Macbain sighs in pleasure at the memories

    Pema Pera enjoys the sense of interweaving realities conjured up by Maxine's images
    Maxine Walden: And we explored the edges of experience when less structured in terms of exercises and focus and then when more structured

    Bleu (bleu.oleander): some interesting metaphors
    Aphrodite Macbain: and we ate very well
    Maxine Walden: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eos Amaterasu: rounded the edges
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes- certainly rounded mine!
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Hello Luci
    Eliza Madrigal: Interesting that you also dropped in, Santoshima

    Maxine Walden: oh, yes, we did. Caterer was a Vashon based woman, harvested and cooked from her garden and very local foods
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Luci- we're talking about the retreat
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Luci :)
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): hi Luci
    Eliza Madrigal: (Btw welcome to your first guardian session Santo!) :::::applause::::: :))

    Aphrodite Macbain: Luci was a ball of energy and delight
    Lucinda Lavender: Hi sorry to seem so slow but everything is very slow
    Maxine Walden: yes, such a pleasure to have Santo come by
    Santoshima: it was by invitation for dinner, eliza ~ a chance to meet people that i was delighted to be able to travel
    Aphrodite Macbain: Is this your first Guardian session San?
    Santoshima: thanks you for the warm welcome here
    Santoshima: yes
    Eliza Madrigal smiles
    Aphrodite Macbain: How is the building going San?

    Pema Pera: welcome in SL and RL and everywhere, San!
    Eliza Madrigal: :)))
    Aphrodite Macbain: welcome to everywhere...
    Aphrodite Macbain: especially here
    Santoshima: ty ;))

    Eliza Madrigal: Did you all keep a certain structure for the days? explorations etc?
    Maxine Walden: After the first two days we did keep a structure, beginning with meditation led by Storm. And then evolving discussions.
    Lucinda Lavender: thinking of watching the sun come up over the water also...such a great opportunity
    Aphrodite Macbain: There was a suggested time structure that sometimes worked, sometimes didn't. Very flexible
    Eliza Madrigal: catching a sun rise :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: We used a progressive drawing process on a long sheet of paper to record our ideas thru image and text

    Maxine Walden: trying to catch the sun rise and not be overwhelmed by the beauty

    Eliza Madrigal: :::takes a breath:::::
    Aphrodite Macbain remembers rosy fingered dawn
    Santoshima: and catching sight of some of the marine animal residents of that stretch of ocean
    Aphrodite Macbain: lighting up the beach, the water and the front porches

    Maxine Walden: and Aph was the artist who recorded many of our explorations and emanations

    Aphrodite Macbain: I had a tricky time with the emanations...
    Eliza Madrigal: ?!
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Maxine Walden: :)
    Pema Pera: o^O
    Maxine Walden: (thinks maybe I should look up the word 'emanate' again...)
    Lucinda Lavender: Luci listens...
    Eliza Madrigal: maybe harder than catching a sunrise...

    Aphrodite Macbain: It became deeply emotional at times and some cathartic momenets
    Aphrodite Macbain: were experienced
    Maxine Walden: indeed
    Aphrodite Macbain: we became closer then
    Eliza Madrigal: how wonderful to hear... seems you all were very comfortable with one another!
    Lucinda Lavender: I hold very tender thoughts for all there...

    Bleu (bleu.oleander): hi Yaku
    Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): hi Yaku:)
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Hello again Yaku
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Yaku :) We're hearing about the retreat
    Yaku (yakuzza.lethecus): hey everyone

    Aphrodite Macbain: I gather according to Myers Briggs most people there were intuitive
    Lucinda Lavender: tender feelings is perhaps a better word
    Aphrodite Macbain: tender feelings...yes
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Yaku

    Lucinda Lavender: the thought I had was that intuition is involved in traipsing through 2L...what is beyond the sensate world we see...
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes somehow we manage that...I wonder how accurate we are
    Eliza Madrigal: well were your intuitions from SL accurate in RL Aphrodite?

    Lucinda Lavender: we might not be as able to sit still and investigate a new world

    Aphrodite Macbain: some were, some weren't
    Aphrodite Macbain: Eliza
    Eliza Madrigal: hmmm :)

    Aphrodite Macbain: It was uncanny how much we each look like our avis!
    Eliza Madrigal: haha
    Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): :))
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): :)
    Pema Pera: :-)
    Aphrodite Macbain: but of course we were fuller, more 3 dimensional in personality and shape
    Eliza Madrigal: So interesting Luci... a capacity developed in SL then you think?

    Aphrodite Macbain: and we have now nicknamed Luci "fireball" because she is a lot more dynamic in RL
    Maxine Walden: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: haha
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): :))
    Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): :)
    Lucinda Lavender: rather a surprise I guess
    Aphrodite Macbain: to you too Luci?
    Eliza Madrigal always imagine Luci that way... keeping up with kids, chorus, yoga, etc...
    Pema Pera: :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: and with a fine, and generous sense of humour
    Eliza Madrigal: :))

    Maxine Walden: Yes, and Luci provided much needed transportation in her (fiery) orange van
    Lucinda Lavender: my slow typing and connection lead one to see it differently...at least in "what I present" or know how to present comfortable
    Eliza Madrigal: orange van! :)) flowers on it?
    Lucinda Lavender: comfortably
    Aphrodite Macbain: why not?
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Lucinda Lavender: would love flowers...
    Maxine Walden: :)
    Lucinda Lavender: but so far they have not jumped on the bus
    Aphrodite Macbain: It could be a project...another one
    Eliza Madrigal: hehe... dream machine
    Maxine Walden: 'flowers for her van'...
    Lucinda Lavender: dream vehicle :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Maxine Walden: yes, yes

    Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): I must go now.... see you later!! at the Dome:)
    Lucinda Lavender: see you xirana
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye Xirana, yes see you at NOON
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Adios Xira
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): bye Xirana c u later :)
    Pema Pera: bye Xirana!

    Lucinda Lavender: am going to think about what we are able to intuit here in 2L...seems kind of a key...
    Yaku (yakuzza.lethecus): bye xirana
    Lucinda Lavender: worlds with in without
    Lucinda Lavender: and the mirroring there
    Lucinda Lavender: playing as Being perhaps

    Pema Pera: yes, Luci, that was my first surprise, coming to virtual worlds, already before finding SL, this palpable sense of presence of others

    Bleu (bleu.oleander): interesting subject Luci ... perhaps the next Art of Being?
    Bruce (bruce.mowbray) regrets that he might not be able to come to CHAIR-ity today -- due to special visitor in RL -- and still needs to find someone to read the poem (since Bruce has no "voice" - either speaking or listening.)
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): I'll read it for you Bruce
    Aphrodite Macbain: Would it be better if it were read by a male voice?
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): it will give me a reason to sit in your chair
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Bruce (bruce.mowbray): That would be wonderful, Bleu.
    Aphrodite Macbain smiles.
    Bruce (bruce.mowbray): THANK YOU!
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): YW!
    Aphrodite Macbain: just speak more deeply!
    Bruce (bruce.mowbray): i will do my best to be there - - but still cannot do voice.
    Bleu (bleu.oleander) reviews Bruce's notecard, makes sure no big words
    Aphrodite Macbain: lol
    Maxine Walden: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: overlapping realities... sitting in one another's chair...
    Bruce (bruce.mowbray): I borrowed that poem, btw.
    Aphrodite Macbain: You can sit in his easy chair
    Aphrodite Macbain: from whom?
    Bruce (bruce.mowbray): It's given on the notecard.

    Pema Pera: chairing voices, sharing voices, . . .
    Maxine Walden: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :))
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): :))
    Aphrodite Macbain: "Who's been sitting in MY chair"...
    Maxine Walden: :))

    Bruce (bruce.mowbray): and with that brief interruption, I must be gone to the RL Quacker Meeting now.
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye Bruce, see you later
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): bye Bruce
    Pema Pera: happy quaking, Bruce!
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bye
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bye! Bruce take care
    Bruce (bruce.mowbray): Thanks everyone -- Hoping to see you all at noon today!
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Take care Brucie
    Lucinda Lavender: :)))
    Santoshima: bye bruce, take good care
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Woof Boxy
    boxy (alfred.kelberry): phew...
    boxy's nose: Aggers keeps pushing the nose persistently!
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Boxy
    boxy (alfred.kelberry): forgot about the guardian duties :)
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): hi boxy

    Eliza Madrigal: Those who haven't read emails will want to check, so they can peek in on Zen's exhibitioin , btw
    boxy (alfred.kelberry): hi :)
    boxy (alfred.kelberry): wuff!
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Boxy :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: Lovely show- landscapes
    Santoshima: hey boxy
    Eliza Madrigal wonders if Boxy's avi is similar to RL avi, as with retreat reports ... :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: lol
    boxy (alfred.kelberry): rl avi?
    boxy (alfred.kelberry): they met a boxy at vachon? :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Aphrodite remarked that retreaters were very similar to SL
    Aphrodite Macbain: we were saying that we looked like our avis at the retreat Boxy
    boxy (alfred.kelberry): ah...
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Bleu (bleu.oleander) grabs a mirror to check

    Aphrodite Macbain: Do people press your nose in RL?
    boxy (alfred.kelberry): um... no, i'm... a bit different :)
    Maxine Walden: :)
    Eos Amaterasu: he thinks outside the boxy
    boxy (alfred.kelberry): taller somewhat
    Aphrodite Macbain: Less square, perhaps?
    Lucinda Lavender: :)))
    Eliza Madrigal: hah

    Pema Pera laughing at boxy's smiling at Aph's immortal sentence "I would be afraid to do something undoable"
    Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
    Eliza Madrigal giggles

    boxy (alfred.kelberry): but that's an interesting observation, aph
    Pema Pera: (presumably meant to say "unundoable"
    Aphrodite Macbain: well- it's true!

    boxy (alfred.kelberry): omg! pema is here :)
    Pema Pera: O^o
    boxy (alfred.kelberry): *marks this date red*
    Eliza Madrigal: calm down puppy, hehe
    boxy (alfred.kelberry): hi, didn't notice you :)
    Pema Pera: even while letting my hair down?
    Aphrodite Macbain: are you in Japan or new York Pema?

    Lucinda Lavender: Luci was humbled by the breadth of knowledge in the humans that run the avi's
    Pema Pera: New York, hence I can be here (in SL), Aph

    Eliza Madrigal: It is a good time to bring up that in the next few weeks guardian sessions it would be nice to discuss RL/SL going forward, retreats and other RL meetings...
    Aphrodite Macbain: that means you can come to the event at noon Pema. I hope
    Pema Pera: yes!
    Pema Pera: couldn't have otherwise
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): :))
    Pema Pera: will be there
    Aphrodite Macbain: yay
    Aphrodite Macbain: I gather from Storm that we can only afford 1 retreat a year now
    Pema Pera: have you decided on which day you'll have a theme session on the RL retreat?
    boxy (alfred.kelberry): oh noooes...
    boxy (alfred.kelberry): only once :/

    Pema Pera: not so much "afford", rather have one main retreat
    Eos Amaterasu: (not exactly right: ie, not a matter of $ affordance)
    Maxine Walden: Likely sunday 1pm (my goc spot) in a week or two
    Aphrodite Macbain: not yet Pema. We will have to discuss this among ourselves
    Pema Pera: and then smaller localized retreats
    Aphrodite Macbain: what is a localized retreat?
    Pema Pera: Eos and I had gone to all the quarterly retreats, but that was stretching us a bit too much
    Eliza Madrigal: It isn't so much about affording but what the community seems to sustain comfortably... lots of room for many ideas
    Aphrodite Macbain: Good
    Pema Pera: Aph, I meant perhaps shorter neighborhood meetings in RL
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): maybe shorter weekend retreats?
    Pema Pera: of people living already in a given area
    Eliza Madrigal: as Eden and Fox did this week :))
    Aphrodite Macbain: 4 x a year is expensive if you go to all of them
    Aphrodite Macbain: It was expensive just going to one!
    boxy (alfred.kelberry): pema, i didn't know you were supposed to attend all the meetings :)
    Pema Pera: also, fewer and fewer people came so it seemed better to bundle the energy

    Eos Amaterasu: yes, even a 1 hour meeting at a café would be interesting
    Pema Pera: yes!
    boxy (alfred.kelberry): local meetups would be nice
    Pema Pera: with or without snowglobes
    Eos Amaterasu: :-)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    boxy (alfred.kelberry): fc panda :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes- provided there were enough people in the area
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi FcS :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hiya Fc.
    Yaku (yakuzza.lethecus): hey seeker
    Eos Amaterasu: at least 2
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Hello FC :)
    Santoshima: hey fc!
    Lucinda Lavender: can you remind me about what the snowglobes mean?
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): hi Fc
    FcSeeker: hello all
    Pema Pera referst to Eos about sg
    Eos Amaterasu: slowly dropping.....
    Eliza Madrigal: with those smaller meetings in addition to one main retreat possibly, it may be quite 'balanced'
    FcSeeker: sorry that my other duties took time
    Aphrodite Macbain: shake shake shake
    Aphrodite Macbain: then drop
    Lucinda Lavender: ah!
    Lucinda Lavender: thanks
    Pema Pera: let it all down . . .

    Aphrodite Macbain: I'd love to see my 5 friends I made more often
    Eos Amaterasu: sg as a metaphor to live by
    Lucinda Lavender: :)
    Eos Amaterasu: *snowglobe

    Aphrodite Macbain: But you have to shake it up first to get that effect. Or am I being picky?
    Eos Amaterasu: we do a lot of shaking already
    Lucinda Lavender: even without trying...yes
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes! Especially after drinking 2 cups of coffee
    Pema Pera: :-)
    Eos Amaterasu: another type of bean
    Pema Pera: the world will shake you
    Aphrodite Macbain: If you let it
    Eliza Madrigal: sometimes stirred... Can we have martinis with our snowglobes? hehe
    Aphrodite Macbain: If we held the theme session next sunday at 1pm would everybody be able to make it?
    boxy (alfred.kelberry): *finishes last cali roll*
    Aphrodite Macbain: I fear it might eliminate everyone in Europe
    boxy (alfred.kelberry): yep
    Eos Amaterasu: Canadian Thanksgiving weekend
    Lucinda Lavender: I think I can, Maxine so value of meeting in rl
    boxy (alfred.kelberry): a bit earlier preferred, but will do
    Aphrodite Macbain: what time would it be there Fc? 10PM?
    Lucinda Lavender: ooops..partly value is getting more adept at snowglobe dropping...
    Aphrodite Macbain: ouch
    Aphrodite Macbain: What time is it for you at 1PM Fc?
    FcSeeker: it is SL time for me

    Eliza Madrigal: Thank you Maxine (and Storm), for all your planning and Care with the retreat, can feel how lovely it was. I have to get going... but would appreciate someone sending me the rest of the log today?
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): I will Liz
    Eliza Madrigal: Thanks much (((Aggers))))
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): ♥
    Eliza Madrigal: See everyone at noon :)
    FcSeeker: waves to Eliza
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): I need to go as well
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Bye for now
    Eliza Madrigal waves
    Maxine Walden: Thanks, Eliza
    Santoshima: bye Eliza
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): hope to see everyone today at noon
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bye
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bye! Eliza
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Bye Bleu

    (Thanks Aggers for the rest of the log, as promised _/!\_)

    Yaku: bye bleu, eliza everyone
    Pema Pera: bye all who are leaving!
    Bleu: take care all :)
    FcSeeker: waves to all who are leavig
    boxy: i also heard about storm and riddle playing guitars. wish i could listen to that! :)
    Eos Amaterasu: ~~!
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bye
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bye! all. Must go and get ready.
    Santoshima: bye bleu, aph
    Aggers: Bye Aph
    Lucinda Lavender: they were super together too...like they know so much in common...
    Pema Pera: :)
    Maxine Walden: yes, lots of good music, some with instruments, and Luci getting the tune often via Youtube
    boxy: neat :)
    Lucinda Lavender: then we added in voice with some music from my experience ...one window for song and one for lyrics

    Lucinda Lavender: It felt to me that altleast one other person than myself had some aspect of myself...had been down a road I knew
    Lucinda Lavender: and these roads we not the same roads for all
    Lucinda Lavender: easily able to relate is what I mean I guess
    Pema Pera: an interwovenness . . .
    Lucinda Lavender: yes
    Lucinda Lavender: deeply touched by this

    Adams Rubble: we keep finding common ground here :)
    Maxine Walden: yes, that was deeply moving for each and all of us...
    Adams Rubble: nice to hear that the retreat was such a wonderful experience for you all
    FcSeeker: <3
    Aggers nods
    Adams Rubble: it overflows into the larger group

    Maxine Walden: issues which we had thought were personal and sometimes kept under wraps...seen as part of another's or each other's vulnerable places as well
    Pema Pera nods to Adams

    Lucinda Lavender: an empowerment through compassion
    Maxine Walden: beautifully said, Luci
    Pema Pera: yes
    Adams Rubble: I must go too. bye everyone :)
    FcSeeker: waves to Adams
    Yaku: bye adams
    Aggers: Take care Adams :)

    Lucinda Lavender: :) husband was singing this morning.."Here's to you Point robinson..."
    Pema Pera: bye Adams!
    Pema Pera: :-)
    Santoshima: bye adams
    Maxine Walden: haha, Luci
    boxy: don't know this song
    Eos Amaterasu: bye all, thnx!
    Pema Pera: see you all in three hours again!
    Pema Pera: bfn

    Maxine Walden: Have to go in a bit, but we are then likely to have a theme sesion on the retreat Sun 1pm, maybe next week, maybe the following one. We have not settled on that yet. Will let you all know...
    Lucinda Lavender: music from "The graduate"
    Santoshima: so long, Pema, Eos
    FcSeeker: waves
    Aggers waves
    Maxine Walden: yes, bye all, see you at noon.

    boxy: aga, what happened to your boots?
    Yaku: have a good week everyone
    Santoshima: thanks all ~
    Lucinda Lavender: good day and week all!
    Aggers: Changed them for a pair of Eidolon's shoes :)
    boxy: eid... um, ok :)

    Aggers: Looks like that's it then...
    Aggers: Bye for now

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