2011.10.10 19:00 - Inner Fire and Thanksgiving

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Eliza Madrigal. The comments are by Eliza Madrigal...


    Eliza Madrigal: Hello :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Eden! :)
    oO0Oo Resident: yay
    Eden Haiku: Hi Eliza, hi oOOOo:)
    oO0Oo Resident: ntsy Eden
    Eliza Madrigal: very cute outfit Eden :)
    Eden Haiku: Thank you, Eliza, I like yours too :)
    Eden Haiku: Nice to see you too oOOOo :-)
    Eliza Madrigal: thanks :) bit subdued... specially for burn season I think :)

    Eden Haiku: Ah yes, was at the Burning of the Temple yesterday but missed the burning... too crowded to get in there. Only ashes ...
    oO0Oo Resident: I was there too
    oO0Oo Resident: and saw the burning
    Eden Haiku: Was wearing a 1 prim ARC outfit, but still couldn't get in ;(
    Eliza Madrigal: Nice! This time last year I said to myself that I would for sure make events this year, but alas

    Eden Haiku: Lucky you O. How was it?
    oO0Oo Resident: Good, we wrote some haikus after in chat
    Eden Haiku: oh, nice :-)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    oO0Oo Resident: I was there by accident actually, and then people were talking about a count down... so serendipity for me


    Bleu Oleander: hi everyone :)
    oO0Oo Resident: Hi Bleu
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Santoshima :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Bleu :)
    oO0Oo Resident: Hi Santoshima
    Santoshima Resident: hello everyone
    Eden Haiku: Bleu ;-))) Hi! Hi Santoshima, nice to meet you!
    Santoshima Resident: hi Eden ~ good to meet you, too!


    Eliza Madrigal: So happy to see you all tonight... am getting used to hosting an evening session so a little 'off' but happy :))
    Eliza Madrigal: Shall we have an exploration in the pause upcoming?
    Eden Haiku: ;)
    oO0Oo Resident: sure
    Eden Haiku: sure!
    Bleu Oleander: :)
    Eliza Madrigal tries to make associations... burning... kindling.... hm...
    Santoshima Resident: ?
    Eden Haiku: mm, yes... inner fire?
    Eliza Madrigal: Nice Eden, sure!
    Eliza Madrigal sits up straight... considers...
    oO0Oo Resident: *inner fire*
    Eden Haiku: Creative fire in the belly, gut feelings, natural instincts.

    --BELL--

    Eliza Madrigal: Really nice! Reports?
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eden Haiku: Sat up straight s you said Eliza, excellent start.

    oO0Oo Resident: what is the fuel of being... when all drops away but the flame?
    Eden Haiku: ah!
    oO0Oo Resident: eternal flame
    Eden Haiku: Flame in each and every cell ...
    Eliza Madrigal taking long slow breaths... strong exhales like a dragon :)
    oO0Oo Resident: :)
    Eden Haiku: Fire breathing from the heart
    oO0Oo Resident: breathing dragon cells
    oO0Oo Resident: :) what comes first, the friends or the fire of refreshment?
    Eliza Madrigal: wow, impossible to say :)
    oO0Oo Resident: new take on friendly fire


    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Aphrodite :)
    Eliza Madrigal giggles
    Bleu Oleander: hey Aph :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hello everyone
    oO0Oo Resident: Hi Aph... Hi Observerm
    Eliza Madrigal: Hello Observerm :)
    oO0Oo Resident: Feel free to join us Obs


    Eliza Madrigal: Aphrodite we've been considering 'inner fire' :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: inner fire...
    Aphrodite Macbain: that which ignites us?
    Aphrodite Macbain: propels us
    Aphrodite Macbain: inspires us?
    Eden Haiku: mmm
    Aphrodite Macbain: or something else?
    Eden Haiku: somethig like that yes...
    Eliza Madrigal: yes!

    Aphrodite Macbain: I suppose we each have our own and use different kindling
    Eliza Madrigal: and brings us back to center...
    Aphrodite Macbain: there's so much at the centre
    oO0Oo Resident: inner fire and balance... consider... winds and centeredness...fuel... flowing in the fuel, from the fuel of connection

    Aphrodite Macbain: perhaps the fire is at the core
    Aphrodite Macbain: blown by the winds of connection
    Aphrodite Macbain: we have to blow out warmth too
    Eliza Madrigal: some sort of primal momentum without overlay....
    Aphrodite Macbain: hmmm

    Eliza Madrigal: :) suddenly wants to go camping
    Aphrodite Macbain: we speak in metaphor. Wonders what we'd do without it
    Aphrodite Macbain: I'll bring the marshmallows
    Aphrodite Macbain: and a few chestnuts

    Eden Haiku: Breathing in the sun rays in order to fuel the inner fire, to fire up our essence. Camping , yes, that would help :)

    Eliza Madrigal: Nice :) I'd suppose everyone but Bleu and I are having cool weather now
    Aphrodite Macbain: what puts out that inner fire?
    Eliza Madrigal: good question
    Bleu Oleander: much cooler here now though
    Aphrodite Macbain: rain perhaps-Vancouver rain
    Eden Haiku: No no, here we are having Indian summer now. I'm barefeet in a summer dress at 10 pm :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: that's right- you easterners are having a fine time
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh! :)

    Eden Haiku: Amazingling beautiful yes :)))
    Aphrodite Macbain: we in the west are grey and wet. Hiding inside and studying italian
    Eden Haiku: Italian is excellent for firing up inner fires !
    Eliza Madrigal: planning another trip Aphrodite? To light your fire? :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: while you're paddling and barbecuing we're carrying umbrellas
    Eliza Madrigal: haha yes

    --BELL--

    Aphrodite Macbain smiles at Eliza
    Aphrodite Macbain: Sam - can you let me know which paB intro card you would like to change. I have so many now...
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh, I can resend those to you Aph...
    Aphrodite Macbain: We can bring it to the WG meeting
    Eliza Madrigal: no worries
    Aphrodite Macbain: ?
    Eliza Madrigal: I have the files so can send them, unless you meant something else

    Aphrodite Macbain: Inner fire
    Eliza Madrigal: Do people throw things in with the Burning Man during the festival?
    oO0Oo Resident: sorry for the delay in responding, i was writing out a reflection on inner fire to share
    Aphrodite Macbain: you said we should talk about changing the notecard which would be in our inventory
    Aphrodite Macbain thinks of Joan of Arc
    Eliza Madrigal: :)

    oO0Oo Resident: I remember walking in the night... cool, not quite cold.. I had my hands in my jacket pocket, was introspective and "hunched" in on myself... kind of staving of the coolness. then I had a shift of mind. I thought... if I were now walking in excitement to a cherished place/person/event, I would feel different right now. So, I took my hands out, expanded my body, and enlivened my pace... and I felt warmer and more alive. Inner fire had increased.

    Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
    Eden Haiku: Beautiful example oOOOo!!!
    Aphrodite Macbain: attitude is everything
    Aphrodite Macbain: having a purpose also helps
    Eliza Madrigal stops and straightens up again... relaxing, opening.... breathing....
    Aphrodite Macbain does the best she can on her chair
    Aphrodite Macbain: *
    Eliza Madrigal: :)

    Eden Haiku: Eliza, no throwing in the fire at the Burning (in RL yes I think though).
    But at the Burning of the Temple, you could write a wish on a notecard and leave it in a bowl there. And it went away in the flames. I did put a wish in there a few days ago :-)

    Aphrodite Macbain: up into the aire to the gods
    Eden Haiku: Yepp!!
    Eliza Madrigal: that's wonderful.... intend but let go
    Eden Haiku: Firing up the inner fire!!!
    oO0Oo Resident: Up through the axis mundi ;) (thanks Cal)
    Eliza Madrigal: totally devoted and totally empty

    Aphrodite Macbain: So, by refocusing your intention you can refire the flame
    Eden Haiku: And, as oOOOo said, shifting your posture, you also shift your mind and your vibration.

    Eliza Madrigal: Bleu very quiet... surely cooking something, haha....
    Bleu Oleander: talked out atm .... from our trip :))
    Eden Haiku: What might she be cooking? Blueberry pumkins?
    Bleu Oleander: ha!
    Eliza Madrigal: :) OK, just checking... will look forward to hearing about it soon
    Aphrodite Macbain: or pumpkin blueberries
    Aphrodite Macbain: which trip? to La Jolla?
    Bleu Oleander: yes, just back
    Aphrodite Macbain: Was it successful? How many people came and who was the speaker?
    Eden Haiku: Pumpkin, yes... spelling felt off.. Tks ;) LaJolla pumkins with blueberries, the best!
    Aphrodite Macbain: lol Eden
    Bleu Oleander: yes, very successful ... lots of good conversations
    Aphrodite Macbain: I plan to come to one. Sounds wonderful
    Eden Haiku: Had a wonderful conversation once in La Jolla. Great memories of the place.
    Bleu Oleander: yes, always a lot of energy
    Aphrodite Macbain: what does Jolla mean in Spanish?
    Bleu Oleander: La Jolla is beautiful
    Eden Haiku: Powered by the waves of the Pacific...
    Eliza Madrigal: mmm

    Aphrodite Macbain: thinking about inner fire again

    Eden Haiku: What was the meeting about Bleu?
    Bleu Oleander: we set up several meetings with interesting people
    Bleu Oleander: and take members of our group
    Eden Haiku: Wow, nice!
    Aphrodite Macbain: Who were the people?
    Eliza Madrigal: I'd imagine those trips, like retreats, unpack over time

    Eden Haiku: Received news of my Indian goddaughter who lives in Silicon Valley. She is working on a start up, the sweet baby :)

    Bleu Oleander: we met artist Robert Irwin
    Bleu Oleander: in his studio
    Aphrodite Macbain: cool
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh, fantastic Eden
    Bleu Oleander: he did the gardens at the Getty Museum in LA

    --BELL--

    Aphrodite Macbain: Is he still doing installation art?
    Bleu Oleander: yes
    Eliza Madrigal: light sculptures...?
    Bleu Oleander: that too
    Aphrodite Macbain: He must be pretty old by now...
    Bleu Oleander: he's in his 80's
    Aphrodite Macbain: trying to remember...
    Bleu Oleander: but still having a great time
    Bleu Oleander: very interested in perception

    Aphrodite Macbain: wonderful . I'm sure making art keeps one young
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes- light and colour, right?
    Bleu Oleander: yes
    Eden Haiku: Painters do live very old, true :)
    oO0Oo Resident: :)
    Bleu Oleander: hope so :))
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: unless they breathe in too much turpentine
    Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
    Eden Haiku: Picasso, Sonia Delaunay, Renoir... lived well into their nineties
    Eden Haiku: Inner fire keeps them alive :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: and continued to be productive
    Eliza Madrigal: they continually draw from deep within... perhaps keep (back) little


    Bleu Oleander: we also met a professor of psychiatry who spoke about sleep
    Aphrodite Macbain: + 99% perspiration...
    Aphrodite Macbain: oh? anything new about sleep?
    Bleu Oleander: take a nap
    Bleu Oleander: it's good for you
    Aphrodite Macbain: GTSY Sam
    Eden Haiku: Ah sleep. Sleep is crawling on my mind now :)
    Eliza Madrigal approves of naps
    Eden Haiku: me too
    Aphrodite Macbain: approves of 8 hr sleeps
    Eliza Madrigal: yes and all sorts of sleep in fact :)

    Bleu Oleander: if you get up at 7am ... 1pm is an ideal time for a nap
    Eden Haiku: getting up earlier these days, have to go to bed earlier.
    Bleu Oleander: 20 min can be very refreshing
    Eliza Madrigal: writing early Eden? or walking?
    Aphrodite Macbain: I fnd naps at 3pm are best 4 me
    Eden Haiku: Yes, in India, I used to nap 20 minutes around noon time and it was sooo refreshing.
    Aphrodite Macbain: also the hot time of the day
    Eden Haiku: Writing in the mornings now, walking in the afternoon usually :)

    Eliza Madrigal: I did hear that it is OK now to take a longer nap, wheras before it was thought only power naps were refreshing
    Bleu Oleander: yes
    oO0Oo Resident: lol
    Aphrodite Macbain: Only mad dogs and Englismen go out in the noonday sun
    Bleu Oleander: a 90 min nap can be as good as a night's sleep

    oO0Oo Resident feels the flame burning brightly (hears the crackling of pace and conviviality)

    Eliza Madrigal: Oh :) So on a good schedule... steady momentum.... @ Eden
    Eden Haiku: During monsoon my 20 minutes naps extended to 2 hours sometimes :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: soothed by the sound of the falling rain
    Eliza Madrigal: ahhhhhhhhh
    Eden Haiku: aaahhh
    oO0Oo Resident: aaaahhhhhh
    Aphrodite Macbain: ohhhh
    Aphrodite Macbain: maybe it's not so bad living in Vancouver
    oO0Oo Resident: bad?
    Eliza Madrigal: I'm told it is a paradise
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: It rains like monsoons
    Eliza Madrigal: me loves rain....
    Aphrodite Macbain: It hasn't stopped all day
    Eden Haiku: Thanksgiving day here, isn't it Aph?
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes.
    Aphrodite Macbain: weekend.
    Eliza Madrigal: Happy Thanksgiving to you both, Eden and Aphrodite :)
    Eden Haiku: In India, the rain is always seen as a blessing.
    Aphrodite Macbain: Thanks Eliza
    Eden Haiku: Thank you (((Eliza)))
    Aphrodite Macbain: Yes- after the long heat and dust
    Eliza Madrigal: and for weddings too
    Aphrodite Macbain: it cleans out the air and the streets.
    Eden Haiku: Is it? For weddings too?
    Aphrodite Macbain: Not so great for people living on the street though
    Eliza Madrigal: yes I've heard that... rain on weddings is a blessing, though couples choosing the beach may not think so :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: weddings?
    Santoshima Resident: and me, eliza, canada over here, too
    Eliza Madrigal: for me it is like permission to slow down
    Aphrodite Macbain: portent of fertility
    Eliza Madrigal: are you santoshima? Ah, Happy Thanksgving :))
    Aphrodite Macbain: Yes- 3 canadians in this circle
    Santoshima Resident: vancouver
    Santoshima Resident: ty
    Eliza Madrigal: I thought you were Cali for some reason
    Santoshima Resident: why>
    Aphrodite Macbain: Cali?
    Eden Haiku: Ah, yes. Saw many weddings last Saturday, in a beautiful old church by the river, lots of limousines, beautiful wedding parties.
    Eliza Madrigal: some reason , hah
    Santoshima Resident: ?
    Eliza Madrigal: = no idea
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: sorry
    Bleu Oleander: happy thanksgiving to all the Canadians :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: Thanks Bleu

    Aphrodite Macbain: I haven't eaten 1 turkey however.
    Eden Haiku: It is not such a big celebration here as it is for Americans though.
    Aphrodite Macbain: a couple of fish

    Aphrodite Macbain: Bye
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bye! San
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye again Santo...
    Eliza Madrigal: she sems to enjoy spontaneous walks
    Eliza Madrigal: :)

    Eden Haiku: My mother used to invite us over for Thanksgiving. Now that she 's gone, things changed.
    Aphrodite Macbain: What happens now Eden?
    Eden Haiku: Well I thoght of inviting my father but he was busy with his lady friend, so we just worked as usual :)
    Eliza Madrigal smiles
    Eliza Madrigal: Is he doing well?

    --BELL--

    oO0Oo Resident contemplates connection between inner fire and thanksgiving

    Eden Haiku: Ys, Eliza, my Dad is great. He might go on vacation in Cuba in a few weeks. At 87 :)
    Eliza Madrigal: wow Cuba?
    Eliza Madrigal: what makes him want to visit Cuba?
    Eliza Madrigal: inner fire of appreciation, recognition... so nice, oO0Oo...
    Eden Haiku: He's a bit nervous about it (doesn't like airplanes much) but his lady friend is very convincing :)
    Eden Haiku: We are going to take care of his little dog:)
    Aphrodite Macbain wonders what the connection might be
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    oO0Oo Resident: I hope they have a wonderful trip
    Eliza Madrigal: sounds lovely
    Aphrodite Macbain: and puts on plenty of sunscreen]
    Eden Haiku: If he doesn't change his mind. He does that a lot :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: Cuba is a great place but hot!

    Eden Haiku: Well, my inner fire is feeling very nurtured by this wonderful meeting.

    Eden Haiku: Thank you very much Eliza,
    Eliza Madrigal: So glad, Eden... nice to see you, have you here
    Eliza Madrigal loves reading your comments on logs....

    oO0Oo Resident: Yes, lovely to see you here Eden.:))

    Bleu Oleander: nice to see you Eden
    Bleu Oleander: take care

    Bleu Oleander: should go myself :)
    Eden Haiku: have to get some helthy sleep. Bye Bleu, Aph, oOOOo. Have a great evening. Full moon on Wedenesday. Enjoy!
    Eliza Madrigal: Night Bleu :) Great to see you as well
    Bleu Oleander: bye all
    Bleu Oleander: take care
    Eliza Madrigal: YES... moon gazing upcoming

    oO0Oo Resident: Nigt bleu :))) Fly well

    Aphrodite Macbain: night
    Eliza Madrigal: not so sure about these night sessions... I begin to wake up about half way through...
    Eliza Madrigal: hehe
    Eliza Madrigal: Did you visit Cuba, Aph?
    oO0Oo Resident: stretching beyond the familiar
    Eliza Madrigal: yes
    oO0Oo Resident nudges Aph
    Eliza Madrigal: :) she did say 'night'... maybe fell asleep :)
    oO0Oo Resident: Miralee went for her birthday, and showed me pictures she took. I t looked fabulous.
    Eliza Madrigal: yes I enjoyed those pictures too... of course I live in a predominantly cuban culture but it would be interesting to go... would deepen my familiar impressions
    Aphrodite Macbain: um yes?
    Aphrodite Macbain: Yes I visited Cuba in 1981!!
    Eliza Madrigal: wow!
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Susan :)

    Aphrodite Macbain: wonderful went to a great beach and snorkled and drank mijitos, and sunbathed and ate fruit

    oO0Oo Resident: Hi Susan
    Aphrodite Macbain: and kept out of the sun
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hiya chica!
    iwandertoo Resident: hey there chiqa...laughing
    Aphrodite Macbain: Que tal? How's it going?
    iwandertoo Resident: just got in...
    Eliza Madrigal: sounds wonderful... though the mojitos by themselves may be enough :)
    oO0Oo Resident: Susan: inner flame, thanksgiving, art, longevity, Cuba, friendship
    Aphrodite Macbain: They certainly lubricated my days and nights
    iwandertoo Resident: going to wander
    iwandertoo Resident: take care
    Eliza Madrigal: ok, bye Susan
    oO0Oo Resident: Bye
    Eliza Madrigal: hm
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: ciao chica
    oO0Oo Resident: lubrication
    Eliza Madrigal may want to leave before things get truly silly

    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: I loved... reading a log, and Aphrodite you exclaimed that you had to go while you still had your dignity :D
    Eliza Madrigal: laughed and laughed :)
    Eliza Madrigal: ah... pause...
    Aphrodite Macbain smiles

    --BELL--

    oO0Oo Resident: dignity~lubrication~inner flame
    Aphrodite Macbain wonders when I said that
    Aphrodite Macbain: I think that is a good note to take my leave
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bye
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bye! you two
    oO0Oo Resident: bye Aph
    Eliza Madrigal: Night Aphrodite
    Eliza Madrigal: am looking for your notecard template...
    Eliza Madrigal: sent before... hm... one sec...
    Eliza Madrigal: aha
    oO0Oo Resident: that... was the aha moment of the session
    oO0Oo Resident: haha
    Eliza Madrigal: aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

    Eliza Madrigal: shades of pink.... perfume in the air...
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Stevie :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: sorry I;m late
    oO0Oo Resident: Stevenaia:)

    Eliza Madrigal: I was just about to sign off for bed but nice to see you and think to linger for a moment
    Eliza Madrigal: though Bleu reminded us how important it is to sleep
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Dash! :)
    oO0Oo Resident: dash :))
    stevenaia Michinaga: ok, night eliza, I was jsut looking for a place to finish this long Island Ice Tea
    Eliza Madrigal: How is the weather??
    Dash Earthboy: hey y'all
    Dash Earthboy: lovely evening :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :) ty 0
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes was 80 today here
    stevenaia Michinaga: opps, I must be off, night
    Eliza Madrigal: the thermostat at my daughter's school read 103*
    Dash Earthboy: thanx Sam
    Eliza Madrigal: bye stevie
    oO0Oo Resident: Bye Stevenaia
    Dash Earthboy: g'nite Stev
    Eliza Madrigal: and I thought of a photo sent by a friend of the snowy Rockies
    Dash Earthboy: a friend of the Rockies?
    Dash Earthboy: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: city boy tuned mountain man
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Dash Earthboy: that too I suppose :)
    Eliza Madrigal: hard to be graceful with this big cup...hehe
    Dash Earthboy: the hills are alive...
    Eliza Madrigal: please come to denver she said no...
    Dash Earthboy: graceful? with Long Island Iced Tea?... good luck!
    Dash Earthboy: did I share that link with you Eliza?
    oO0Oo Resident stops sipping LIIT, bladder cannot hold that much lol
    Eliza Madrigal: sorry to poof away... so sleepy and it is beginning to show :)
    Eliza Madrigal: link?
    Eliza Madrigal laughs
    Dash Earthboy: the song, please come to...
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh, no...
    Dash Earthboy: no?
    Eliza Madrigal: just thought of it
    Dash Earthboy: want it?
    Eliza Madrigal: sure
    Eliza Madrigal: I've heard it sung very well and very badly :)
    Dash Earthboy:

    http://www.box.net/shared/1k9tf8tcec2qzaftxyuf
     

    Eliza Madrigal: thanks
    Dash Earthboy: yw :)
    Eliza Madrigal: this will be you?
    Dash Earthboy: it's just me and a nylon string guitar
    Dash Earthboy: don't lose any sleep over it :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh... very nice playing Dash... can hear you sincerely absorbed...

    --BELL--

    Dash Earthboy: ty
    Dash Earthboy: did you sample it Sam?
    oO0Oo Resident: listening now Dash... lovely
    Dash Earthboy: ty :)
    Eliza Madrigal: really nice...
    Dash Earthboy: well, y'all it's been fun
    Eliza Madrigal pictures Dash playing on the cobblestones for passersby
    Eliza Madrigal: slept last night in a good hotel...
    Eliza Madrigal: :) OK
    Dash Earthboy: guess a couple of us need to get some shuteye
    Dash Earthboy: Joni Mitchell next itme?
    Dash Earthboy: time?
    Eliza Madrigal: yes sounds good :)
    Dash Earthboy: heheh
    oO0Oo Resident: I'll go for a walk and keep you both in my mind/heart
    Dash Earthboy: pax et bonum y'all
    oO0Oo Resident: pax
    Dash Earthboy: g'nite
    oO0Oo Resident: pax to all
    Eliza Madrigal: Pleasant walking and Much Joy
    oO0Oo Resident: :)))
     

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    After this session I lingered a little, searching for a poem or video with keywords 'inner' 'fire', and settled on watching this one (14mins)

    The Best Hard Evidence For Buddhist Tummo (Inner Fire) Meditation
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Arr4C52grQ
    Posted 11:46, 11 Oct 2011
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