2011.10.24 19:00 - Identity Enough

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Eliza Madrigal. The comments are by Eliza Madrigal.

    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Sam :)
    oO0Oo Resident: Hi Eliza, Hi Santoshima
    Santoshima Resident: hi
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Santo :)
    Santoshima Resident: hi
    Eliza Madrigal: very pretty necklace
    Santoshima Resident: free
    Eliza Madrigal digs in inventory bag for topic
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh, ty
    Santoshima Resident: yw
    Eliza Madrigal: this occupy group I joined is quite active with IMs... one sec am going to turn them down somehow :)
    Eliza Madrigal: one would think I'd know how to do these technical things after being here for a good while now :)
    Eliza Madrigal: ah well :)
    Eliza Madrigal: anyway, here now with you both.
    Santoshima Resident: brb
    Eliza Madrigal: sure :)
    oO0Oo Resident: seems there's always more to learn technically.. and as technology changes rapidly, more again still. Fortunately, some people bring gracefulness to all these imperfect realms.

    Eliza Madrigal: have been thinking it would be nice to have some sort of event in the village again... even if for no particular occasion.. nothing fancy or requiring a lot of planning
    Eliza Madrigal: Sunshine said to let her know... maybe we play in her cafe... or wander around...
    oO0Oo Resident: I was thinking
    oO0Oo Resident: that
    Eliza Madrigal: yes?


    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Santoshima Resident: never seen her place
    Santoshima Resident: never met her
    Eliza Madrigal: Ohh... near Aphrodite's place.... She's been quite busy with RL as of late...
    Eliza Madrigal: but lovely person
    Eliza Madrigal: and still peeks in, though not too much in sessions

    Eliza Madrigal: Sun had an open cafe in Africa where she lives...
    Santoshima Resident: oh, where?
    Eliza Madrigal: for ten years, and a heart vision of a kind of hm..
    oO0Oo Resident: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: well openness is the best way to describe sun I think
    Eliza Madrigal: I'm not sure she shared that specifically... though there is a flickr set...
    Santoshima Resident: from her RL?
    Eliza Madrigal: yes
    Eliza Madrigal: let me see if she decorated her wiki page :)

    Eliza Madrigal: http://wiki.playasbeing.org/Chat_Logs/2011/01/2011.01.18_13%3a00_-__South_African_Sunshine?highlight=sunshine
    Santoshima Resident: ty
    Eliza Madrigal: well, here is a session where she visited first anyway
    Eliza Madrigal: The spot she made in the village has Eden's Neighborhood Cafe' poem posted...
    Eliza Madrigal: which jives so well with Sun's and Pema's sort of vision too
    Eliza Madrigal: anyway :)
    Santoshima Resident: thanks

    Eliza Madrigal: I met Sun elsewhere and then she came here while I was in New Orleans. By the time I came back the whole group was dancing all the time
    Eliza Madrigal: she was playing violin over voice...etc...hah
    oO0Oo Resident: :)))
    Eliza Madrigal: :))
    Santoshima Resident: fun
    oO0Oo Resident: (((((Sunshine))))))
    Eliza Madrigal: yes (((((Sunshine))))) :)))

    Bleu Oleander: hiya :)
    oO0Oo Resident: Heya Bleu :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Hey Bleu! :))
    Santoshima Resident: hi bleu
    Eliza Madrigal: (((((Bleu))))))) too
    oO0Oo Resident: ya
    Bleu Oleander: (((everyone)))
    Eliza Madrigal: (((((everyone)))))
    Santoshima Resident: (((((((((((((?)))))))))))))))) good to see you bleu
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Bleu Oleander: nice to see you too :)
    oO0Oo Resident: nice outfit :)
    Bleu Oleander: ty!

    Eliza Madrigal: we've not really settled on a topic... were musing about maybe having an almost unplanned gathering in the village... maybe near Sun's house...
    Bleu Oleander: oh nice
    oO0Oo Resident: i must have missed that
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Bleu Oleander: how is Sun ... haven't seen her in a while
    Eliza Madrigal: then was telling Santo about Sun, since she hasn't met her yet
    Eliza Madrigal: very well... energetic and up to various things :) project in RL as I understand

    Santoshima Resident: some people here show their RL
    Santoshima Resident: some do not
    Eliza Madrigal nods
    Eliza Madrigal: wonderful quality of SL imo
    Santoshima Resident: what do you like about it eliza?
    Eliza Madrigal: ah, many things... but I suppose mainly the idea of suspending judgement for a while, questioning identity...
    Santoshima Resident: hello observerm
    Eliza Madrigal: of course that sounds abstract
    oO0Oo Resident: Hi Obs
    Santoshima Resident: well
    Santoshima Resident: not so abstract
    Eliza Madrigal: but 'drop what you have to see what you are' is a big pab theme generally
    Santoshima Resident: specifically for you, that is what it is
    Eliza Madrigal: well it is one thing :)
    Santoshima Resident: pardon?
    Eliza Madrigal: it is one thing, for me
    Eliza Madrigal: thinking of the years I've been in SL and all the people I've met


    oO0Oo Resident: [OK I scrolled back and see where you mention the notion of a gathering Eliza] Is it just me, or does chat sometimes fill in strangely due to lag? I thought I was paying attention ::shrugs::
    Eliza Madrigal: I think it does... sometimes I read a session and have completely missed something :)
    Santoshima Resident: you answered as though part of the conversaton, Sam
    Santoshima Resident: with eliza
    Santoshima Resident: i can find
    Santoshima Resident: [ ... ]
    Santoshima Resident: [19:13] Eliza Madrigal: have been thinking it would be nice to have some sort of event in the village again... even if for no particular occasion.. nothing fancy or requiring a lot of planning [19:14] Eliza Madrigal: Sunshine said to let her know... maybe we play in her cafe... or wander around... [19:14] Samúð (oo0oo): I was thinking [19:14] Samúð (oo0oo): that [19:14] Eliza Madrigal: yes?

    oO0Oo Resident: yes, well perhaps ambiguous... I was intending to reflect on a topic ... hehe
    oO0Oo Resident: maybe thatis where my attention went
    oO0Oo Resident: but then the bell

    Santoshima Resident: sure, did you find one? a topic?

    Eliza Madrigal: :)) yes I think I interrupted you...
    oO0Oo Resident: I was thinking of a frame
    Eliza Madrigal listens happily for topic
    oO0Oo Resident: Oh! Well thank you... um..

    oO0Oo Resident: Sometimes I think one can feel as though our needs need to be fulfilled in particular ways, but that *really*, it is more a question of the needs being fulfilled, independent of the specifics.
    oO0Oo Resident: In thinking about a contemplation, or frame for the break...
    oO0Oo Resident: I thought.. what about...

    oO0Oo Resident: "May others have what they need"

    oO0Oo Resident: And this seemed a way to kind of give everything away, which is kind of like dropping... and everything being fulfilled, sort of open and spacious... so... just that :)

    Eliza Madrigal: 'may others have what they need'

    oO0Oo Resident: oh see! Obs got what he/she always needed :)))
    Santoshima Resident: what?
    oO0Oo Resident: ObserverM
    oO0Oo Resident: hehehe
    oO0Oo Resident: just left the region
    oO0Oo Resident: ;)
    Santoshima Resident: inside joke?
    Eliza Madrigal laughs ...
    oO0Oo Resident: No, but not well articulated
    oO0Oo Resident: just thinking
    oO0Oo Resident: that after Eliza put that aspiration...
    oO0Oo Resident: obs left
    oO0Oo Resident: and I imagind zie being fulfilled
    Eliza Madrigal nods... like package arriving at door
    Eliza Madrigal: hehe
    oO0Oo Resident: like a hungry ghost
    oO0Oo Resident: that finally got enough
    oO0Oo Resident: or something
    oO0Oo Resident: [not that i see you that way Obs]

    Eliza Madrigal: Bleu, I wonder if you have thoughts about suspension of identity in SL
    Santoshima Resident: maybe needed to go feed the cat, or something ...
    Bleu Oleander: hmmm
    Bleu Oleander: I'm pretty much who I am
    Bleu Oleander: whatever that means :)
    Eliza Madrigal smiles
    oO0Oo Resident: :)

    Bleu Oleander: what does it mean to suspend identity?
    Eliza Madrigal: I've talked about this a little before, but when younger and the internet first arrived on my doorstep, so to speak, my biggest curiosity was to go in and talk to people who didn't know, for instance, my age...
    Eliza Madrigal: I was about hm 25, 26..
    Eliza Madrigal: and wanted to sort of see the ideas play on their own
    Eliza Madrigal: so SL allows people to ask those sorts of questions in differnt ways I think

    Bleu Oleander: on the surface I agree
    Bleu Oleander: but hard to keep up appearances
    oO0Oo Resident: the appearance of not having appearances?


    Eliza Madrigal: 'may others have what they need'
    oO0Oo Resident: during the break
    oO0Oo Resident: I looked around
    oO0Oo Resident: and
    oO0Oo Resident: phenomena sort of said
    oO0Oo Resident: what Bleu did
    oO0Oo Resident: pretty much just what we are
    oO0Oo Resident: and there was enoughness
    Eliza Madrigal: _/!\_ ty

    oO0Oo Resident: Bruce's recliner sits are kind of permeating my seeing and experiencing ;)
    Eliza Madrigal: reclining into Being
    oO0Oo Resident: playing with subject/object
    Santoshima Resident: laz-i-boi as state of being
    Eliza Madrigal: :)))
    oO0Oo Resident: hehe
    Bleu Oleander: ha!
    oO0Oo Resident: a lot can be within... stillness
    oO0Oo Resident: *alot
    Eliza Madrigal: alot a lot and enough
    oO0Oo Resident: and a half
    oO0Oo Resident: ;)

    Santoshima Resident: bleu, do you think that you will lead a discussion about video, as you had mentioned in an email recently?
    Santoshima Resident: or workshop?
    oO0Oo Resident: or make a series of videos on how to make videos :))))
    Santoshima Resident: :)
    Bleu Oleander: sure, I would be happy to impart any words of wisdom
    Santoshima Resident: that would be wonderful
    Eliza Madrigal would *love* that but takes it she would have to invest in a mac... ?
    Santoshima Resident: really?
    Bleu Oleander: pc's make good movies too
    Santoshima Resident: is that so?
    Santoshima Resident: yeah
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh, thought you said it needed certain programs
    Eliza Madrigal: to learn your way

    Bleu Oleander: btw, there's some great art at the final UWA challenge
    Santoshima Resident: where is that?
    Santoshima Resident: what is that?
    Eliza Madrigal: thanks Bleu
    Santoshima Resident: thanks
    Bleu Oleander: University of Western Autralia
    oO0Oo Resident: ty
    Bleu Oleander: they have had a monthly art contest
    Santoshima Resident: excellent
    Bleu Oleander: for the last year


    Bleu Oleander: their video contest deadline is Nov 10 ... so you all have time :)
    Bleu Oleander: I've submitted 3
    Eliza Madrigal: haha... better get started this second :)
    Bleu Oleander: http://uwainsl.blogspot.com/
    oO0Oo Resident: clicks :)
    Bleu Oleander: http://uwainsl.blogspot.com/2011/06/...iv-art-of.html
    Bleu Oleander: for the videos you have to use one of the art pieces submitted during the year
    oO0Oo Resident: Cool

    Bleu Oleander: it was fun working with the artists
    Eliza Madrigal: extensive judges list.... impressive involvement
    oO0Oo Resident: UWA seems to have a good SL thing going
    Bleu Oleander: yes
    Bleu Oleander: they're promoting the arts in sl
    Santoshima Resident: very good
    oO0Oo Resident: Wow, hope you win that prize Bleu
    oO0Oo Resident: ::roots for Bleu::
    Eliza Madrigal: ::::adds rooting energy too:::::
    Bleu Oleander: well I'm just the new kid in a group of very talented artists
    oO0Oo Resident: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :))
    Bleu Oleander: hehe Eliza :)
    Eliza Madrigal: team Bleu
    Bleu Oleander: haha
    oO0Oo Resident: Rah! Rah! ::wears pom-poms::

    Bleu Oleander: btw, I have another Art of Being project in mind
    Eliza Madrigal: oh my
    oO0Oo Resident: bright eyes
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: ready to give hints?
    Eliza Madrigal: so we can start percolating?
    oO0Oo Resident: ears perk
    Bleu Oleander: actually about identity
    Eliza Madrigal: perkolating
    oO0Oo Resident: hehe
    oO0Oo Resident: snapolating
    Eliza Madrigal: hmm, timely

    Bleu Oleander: I'll wait until after the theater event maybe?
    Eliza Madrigal: hmmm
    Bleu Oleander: don't want to wear everyone out
    oO0Oo Resident: Theater event?
    Bleu Oleander: yes the Molecule Theater
    oO0Oo Resident: feels i should know something I do not
    oO0Oo Resident: oh?
    Santoshima Resident: not advertised yet

    Bleu Oleander: we've had two events so far
    Bleu Oleander: and the next one is in December
    Bleu Oleander: want to participate?

    oO0Oo Resident: ah .. ok
    Santoshima Resident: in what way?
    Bleu Oleander: writing, acting, set design ....
    oO0Oo Resident: is there a description somewhere
    oO0Oo Resident: ?
    Santoshima Resident: maybe
    oO0Oo Resident: or theme rather

    Eliza Madrigal: yes I wondered if there'd be a group note soon... this one will be so fun to part of
    Eliza Madrigal: :) others too, but :)
    Bleu Oleander: http://kira.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=182&Itemid=209
    oO0Oo Resident: clicking

    Bleu Oleander: I did a video on the theater at the bottom of that wiki page
    Eliza Madrigal: I didn't know about this page at Kira... fantastic that you/Storm added it there
    Santoshima Resident: yes, very enjoyable ;)
    Bleu Oleander: Storm did the page
    Bleu Oleander: after the theater was listed on the sl website


    Eliza Madrigal: :) I need to get to bed...
    Bleu Oleander: yes, late for you
    oO0Oo Resident: :) Night Eliza "May you get all the rest you need"
    Bleu Oleander: I need to check out too
    Eliza Madrigal: thanks so much guys :) we should go ahead and plan your workshop Bleu :)
    Bleu Oleander: sure, anytime
    oO0Oo Resident: Thanks for the links and wisdom Bleu :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Aw :) Ty ooO0Ooo
    Bleu Oleander: nice to see you all
    Eliza Madrigal: and to you all as well
    Santoshima Resident: g'nite
    Bleu Oleander: take care bye bye
    oO0Oo Resident: That's me too. Need to run some errands. :) Take care all . Bye santoshima
    Eliza Madrigal: Night :)

    Santoshima Resident: hi Stevenaia
    stevenaia Michinaga: hi Santos
    stevenaia Michinaga: how are you?
    Santoshima Resident: am just on IM, a moment ~ i'm good, you?
    stevenaia Michinaga: ok
    stevenaia Michinaga: I had a nice day
    Santoshima Resident: that's good
    Santoshima Resident: trying to see whether susan wil join us
    stevenaia Michinaga: shall we continue the recording?
    Santoshima Resident: no, please not

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