2011.12.04 19:00 - Ways of Remembering

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Calvino Rabeni. The comments are by Calvino Rabeni.

    Lucinda Lavender: Hmmm...Hi...Do I appear not to be wearing a shirt?
    Lucinda Lavender: brb...
    Calvino Rabeni: Hello Cinda, you look fine
    Lucinda Lavender: odd.. appearance to me for a minute
    Calvino Rabeni: well, the dress is sleeveless, but it looks proper and elegant
    Lucinda Lavender: oh good then
    Lucinda Lavender: how is the evening finding you
    Calvino Rabeni: Well enough, lass, I'm doing a bit o' bachelor cookin' in the galley
    Lucinda Lavender: :)))
    Lucinda Lavender: can you describe it me matey?
    Lucinda Lavender: we had swedes for dinner ourselves
    Calvino Rabeni: Nautical fare
    Lucinda Lavender: hmmm let me guess...a fish?
    Calvino Rabeni: French toast and buttered peas
    Lucinda Lavender: yum!
    Lucinda Lavender: love buttered peas
    Lucinda Lavender: and the toast
    Calvino Rabeni: Yes the old dry bread gets a new youthfulness
    Calvino Rabeni: And you know what they say about peas
    Calvino Rabeni: peas for the working man
    Lucinda Lavender: we had a crock pot dish with chicken, rutabaga, leek, onion, carrot, and dumplings

    Lucinda Lavender: hmmmdid not know they say that...
    Calvino Rabeni:

    You can talk of beef and spuds
    when you're frocked in fancy duds
    and sitting there as pretty as you please
    But when some heathen demon
    in you stomach starts a-screamin'
    You'll sell your bloomin' soul for buttered peas

    Lucinda Lavender: :)))

    First you shell 'em to the man
    then you dump 'em in the pan
    then you boil them 'till the bugler blows a halt
    Then you dish 'em neat and clean
    and you yell "GOD SAVE THE QUEEN!"
    and you serve 'em with some butter and some salt.
    Well it's peas, peas, peas!
    They're enough to bring a blighter to his knees!
    It's you I give my pay for!
    Walk the road to Mandalay for!
    To the God above I pray for,
    Buttered Peas!

    Lucinda Lavender: lovely peas..
    Lucinda Lavender: who wrote that poem?
    Calvino Rabeni: It could be Rudyard Kipling I think.
    Calvino Rabeni: The last stanza goes like this:
    Lucinda Lavender: that sounds right
    Lucinda Lavender: Hi to Tess who skated by...
    Lucinda Lavender: Luci goes looking for a poem with rutabagas...
    Calvino Rabeni: A pea is a small thing, isn't it?
    Calvino Rabeni: As is a mustard seed
    Lucinda Lavender: yes
    Lucinda Lavender: :)
    Lucinda Lavender: Rough and Ready Rutabagas Rough and ready Rutabaga no matter what you chant, greeted through the ages by either rave or rant. Some say bitter, others sweet arguing at every meal, on only one thing they agree, the ’baga has no sex appeal. And though its uses are diverse whether diced or chopped or raw, whether boiled or fried or roasted, votes are either “ahh” or “blah“. But the rough and ready ’baga stands up to each rebuke asking only that you try them even if you puke!
    Calvino Rabeni: Indeed
    Lucinda Lavender: :))
    Calvino Rabeni: the rutabaga is the rough-and-ready cousin of the turned-up turnip
    Lucinda Lavender: :)

    Calvino Rabeni: a turnip with a tan and a bit of dirt, just in from the land
    Lucinda Lavender: HI aph!
    Aphrodite Macbain: you two
    Calvino Rabeni: Good evening!
    Aphrodite Macbain: It is isn't it? Clear skies
    Aphrodite Macbain: for a few days
    Lucinda Lavender: cold and clear yes
    Calvino Rabeni: I noticed a sign of the season, that If I want to go somewhere at night, I'm going to have to want it enough to scrape a layer of ice off the car windows
    Aphrodite Macbain: nods
    Lucinda Lavender: nodding
    Aphrodite Macbain: and I'm going to have to put three layers of exta clothes on
    Calvino Rabeni: I'm thinking of doing a grocery run to Trader Joe's - you know the place?
    Lucinda Lavender: yes:)
    Lucinda Lavender: tonight?
    Aphrodite Macbain: I think I've heard of it. What does Joe trade?
    Lucinda Lavender: many good foods:)
    Calvino Rabeni: It's a grocery chain - a great place for foodie-on-a-budget shopping
    Calvino Rabeni: and cheaper than the mega chain Safeway
    Aphrodite Macbain: great. does it have organic/100 mile diet kind of stuff as well?
    Calvino Rabeni: organic yes, don't know about the 100 mile concept?
    Aphrodite Macbain: buy food that is produced within 100 miles of yourself
    Calvino Rabeni: hmm I don't think they grow mangos that near here
    Aphrodite Macbain: saves the planet- less carbon in the air to ship
    Lucinda Lavender: oh..ah...
    Lucinda Lavender: I do not think this store does that...
    Aphrodite Macbain: The 100 mile diet - argues tha t we shop in season
    Aphrodite Macbain: some stores let you know where the produce comes from
    Calvino Rabeni: Any season is sprout season ... many things can come from zero miles
    Aphrodite Macbain: right on
    Calvino Rabeni: That would be a good title - the Zero Mile Cookbook
    Aphrodite Macbain: It's a bit harder in Canadaand if you lived in Newfoundland, all you would eat would be root vegetables and fish
    Aphrodite Macbain: I think there is on Cal!
    Calvino Rabeni: Rutabagas
    Aphrodite Macbain: right
    Calvino Rabeni: Beets, Turnips, Potatoes, Parsnips, Carrots
    Aphrodite Macbain: yum!
    Calvino Rabeni: and winter squash
    Lucinda Lavender: :0 I had rutabaga in my soup tonight
    Calvino Rabeni: and the onion types that keep all winter long
    Aphrodite Macbain: right. and local protein
    Aphrodite Macbain: see- you could do it!
    Aphrodite Macbain: Barbara Kingsolver wrote about this about 10 years ago
    Calvino Rabeni: Backyard Eggs
    Lucinda Lavender: :)
    Calvino Rabeni: with help from our friends the micro-organisms
    Aphrodite Macbain: how do they help?
    Calvino Rabeni: They preserve, add nutrition and flavor
    Calvino Rabeni: http://wildfermentation.com for example
    Aphrodite Macbain: like what's in cheese?
    Lucinda Lavender: yes:)
    Aphrodite Macbain: or whiskey
    Calvino Rabeni: Cinda's well experienced in this area
    Aphrodite Macbain: lol
    Aphrodite Macbain: whiskey or cheese?
    Lucinda Lavender: so now my husband lets the oats ferment overnight before cooking for the morning...
    Aphrodite Macbain: does the taste change?
    Calvino Rabeni: whiskey would take a little extra work ... funny how it's illegal in the USA so only hardcore DIY people do it
    Aphrodite Macbain: Illegal?
    Calvino Rabeni: Indeed, distilling is not legal
    Aphrodite Macbain: I thought that went out with prohibition
    Calvino Rabeni: One would have thought so
    Aphrodite Macbain thinks of Joan Baez song - "My grandfather made whiskey, and my father did too; they aint paid no whiskey tax since 1792"
    Lucinda Lavender: :)
    Calvino Rabeni: heh
    Aphrodite Macbain: so they lay there by the juniper, while the moon is bright...
    Calvino Rabeni: my parents were in Iron and Steal .. my mother would iron and my father would steal
    Aphrodite Macbain: watch them jugs a fillin in the pale moonlight
    Aphrodite Macbain: lol
    Lucinda Lavender: don't know that song but...sounds good
    Calvino Rabeni: "in the pale moonlight"
    Aphrodite Macbain: you're too young!
    Lucinda Lavender: maybe not:)
    Aphrodite Macbain: Part of Joan Bez repertoire
    Aphrodite Macbain: Baez

    Lucinda Lavender: :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDxvfU6tIKM
    Aphrodite Macbain: this is better
    Aphrodite Macbain: but not great
    Aphrodite Macbain: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLf1fDfSMN8
    Aphrodite Macbain: BEST!!
    Mona Heliosense: Hi
    Aphrodite Macbain: Joan Baez did it best
    Aphrodite Macbain: Baez
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Mona
    Lucinda Lavender: sorry had to go looking for cat who was crying
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hope you found her
    Lucinda Lavender: oh yes...I know this song sort of
    Aphrodite Macbain: Love Joan Baez. I had a guitar in the 60s and knew all her songs
    Calvino Rabeni: :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: and played them even
    Lucinda Lavender: me too:)
    Aphrodite Macbain: singing outloud to this!
    Calvino Rabeni: I remember attending what I think was the first ever rock festival
    Aphrodite Macbain: make my neighbours nervous
    Lucinda Lavender: really where Cal?
    Aphrodite Macbain: where? Cal
    Calvino Rabeni: definitely the Baez era:

    On Sept.2,1968, in Washington state, a year before Woodstock, the first of what was to be an annual event called Sky River Rock Festival, took place near the towns of Sultan and Gold Bar in Washington state, at Betty Nelson's Organic Raspberry Farm. This may well have been the first multi-day outdoor rock festival ever held. The site was near the Skykommish River, hence the name Sky River. Some of the bands to play that first festival were, Big Mama Thornton, Santana, James Cotton, and Country Joe and the Fish. The Grateful Dead showed up on the last day of the festival. Also rumored to have played were Pink Floyd, and Allman Joy (early Allman Brothers). Balloon rides contributed to make the fair "lighter than air."

    Aphrodite Macbain: sigh
    Lucinda Lavender: wow did not know you did that!
    Lucinda Lavender: cool
    Calvino Rabeni: heh
    Calvino Rabeni: I had to get parental permission ... they thought it was a Geology Exhibition
    Lucinda Lavender: :)))
    Aphrodite Macbain: lol
    Lucinda Lavender: Hi Mona
    Aphrodite Macbain: Wow. Lucky you. Did you realize these bands would make it big?
    Calvino Rabeni: Hm, I suppose at the time it seemed like they would ALL make it big
    Aphrodite Macbain: Sky River Rock...:-)
    Lucinda Lavender: There was a recent festival there I think...this summer maybe
    Calvino Rabeni: Yes I remember hearing about that
    Aphrodite Macbain: I remember seeing Joan Baez and Bob Dylan in Montreal in the late 60s
    Aphrodite Macbain: somethings happening, and you don't know what it is, do you Mr Jones?
    Aphrodite Macbain: :-}
    Calvino Rabeni: "A time ago crazy dream came to me..."
    Aphrodite Macbain: Those were the days..
    Aphrodite Macbain: Mona - do you like any of these groups?
    Aphrodite Macbain: we're getting a little sentimental
    Calvino Rabeni: By the way, Mona, the chat from these meetings get published on the group's Wiki, so we like to inform visitors and get their okay
    Aphrodite Macbain: have you been here before?
    Aphrodite Macbain is away right now and has not broken her neck
    Aphrodite Macbain: guess she's afk

    Calvino Rabeni: Yes, thanks
    Aphrodite Macbain is away right now and has not broken her neck
    Aphrodite Macbain: I have to do somethng about that- every time I say afk my avi does that
    Calvino Rabeni: afk
    Aphrodite Macbain: lol
    Calvino Rabeni: nothing happened :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes it did you slumped over!
    Calvino Rabeni: I didn't feel it, I must be numbed!
    Aphrodite Macbain: you're cracking up Cal
    Calvino Rabeni: Thank you
    Calvino Rabeni: I don't think I'm very sentimental ... what are the characteristics of being sentimental, do you think?
    Aphrodite Macbain: How are the rehearsals going Luci
    Aphrodite Macbain: sentimental
    Lucinda Lavender: I will respond about rehearsal in a second..must go afk...be right back tho
    Aphrodite Macbain: I always attach sentimentality with nostalgia. Dont know why
    Aphrodite Macbain: attach wistful emotions to occasions
    Aphrodite Macbain: when others do not?
    Aphrodite Macbain: call me sentimental...
    Calvino Rabeni: Call me, unpredictable
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hi unpredictable
    Lucinda Lavender: ok back
    Lucinda Lavender: just call me
    Aphrodite Macbain: call me tomorrow
    Aphrodite Macbain: but take one aspirin
    Lucinda Lavender: thanks Aph for posting:) yesterday I mean...
    Aphrodite Macbain: No thank you for taking my session
    Calvino Rabeni: Did you take care of it, Cinda? Thanks
    Aphrodite Macbain: I really appreciate it- it was so last moment
    Lucinda Lavender: yes...and it was fun
    Lucinda Lavender: the Berliners were there
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes- all those Berliners
    Calvino Rabeni: Yes, that was yesterday, ... things were good yesterday, I'm feeling nostalgic
    Lucinda Lavender: they were having fun
    Lucinda Lavender: it seemed:)
    Lucinda Lavender: nostalgic is an interesting word
    Calvino Rabeni: http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=nostalgia&searchmode=none
    Aphrodite Macbain: :-) feeling nostalgic for tomorrow
    Lucinda Lavender: I got nostalgic myself because it reminded me of our having a retreat
    Calvino Rabeni: if they were having fun, their stress must have flown to the winds
    Aphrodite Macbain: "considered a disease"
    Lucinda Lavender: wistful yearning for past...
    Aphrodite Macbain: whistful yearning for the past
    Lucinda Lavender: that part I was not having exactly...
    Aphrodite Macbain: wistful
    Lucinda Lavender: just excitement at remembering
    Lucinda Lavender: like probably about going to sky river rock festival
    Calvino Rabeni: nods
    Aphrodite Macbain: Is that nostalgia or envy or empathy?
    Aphrodite Macbain: the presence of absence
    Aphrodite Macbain: a hollow, unfilled feeling
    Aphrodite Macbain: a nasty emotion
    Lucinda Lavender: ah...different than for me...
    Lucinda Lavender: mine was a filled feeling
    Lucinda Lavender: like the thick frosting on the cake of life
    Aphrodite Macbain: then I wonder whether it was nostalgia
    Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
    Aphrodite Macbain: that was such a great quote
    Lucinda Lavender: :)) thanks for finding it...
    Aphrodite Macbain: It stood out like a thick frosting
    Aphrodite Macbain: yum
    Aphrodite Macbain: When can I come down and visit?
    Lucinda Lavender: any old time
    Lucinda Lavender: concert the 18th
    Aphrodite Macbain: Have another commitment
    Lucinda Lavender: ah
    Aphrodite Macbain: What are you both doing beween Christmas and new year?
    Lucinda Lavender: that will be busy for me...that is the week my daughter comes
    Lucinda Lavender: but after that would be great

    Calvino Rabeni: I don't really know ... I tend to live one day at a time .. in contrast to my sister-in-law who has running 1- 3- and 5-year plans (plus a long range strategy)
    Lucinda Lavender: yes...I am more like you cal...
    Calvino Rabeni: I think it's good to keep your retreat connection going, though
    Aphrodite Macbain: No point in a 5 year plan although now that I am retired I want to do things that I may not be able to do in 15 years
    Lucinda Lavender: Yes, about the retreat connections
    Aphrodite Macbain: I want to maximize my time and energy and meet people I like
    Lucinda Lavender: :))
    Calvino Rabeni: Have a great evening, Aphro and Cinda
    Calvino Rabeni: :)
    Calvino Rabeni: Actually I have a 4 hour plan ... I have a date with Joe (Trader Joe that is) ... would you excuse me?
    Aphrodite Macbain: Say hi to Joe for us cal!
    Calvino Rabeni: heh okay
    Lucinda Lavender: same to you cal..say hi to Joe
    Calvino Rabeni: Bye !
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bye
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bye! cal



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