2011.12.25 19:00 - After Dinner Conversation

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Calvino Rabeni. The comments are by Calvino Rabeni.

    Wol Euler: /hug oO0
    Korel Laloix: Heya
    Calvino Rabeni: Good Evening all ye who come here tonight :)
    Wol Euler: merry christmas!
    Wol Euler: I can't stay, the family is gathered downstairs waiting
    Wol Euler: I just came in ot say hello and greet everyone
    Korel Laloix: We just pushed the last of our guests out the door...
    Korel Laloix: wow.. tired.
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Calvino Rabeni: Thanks Wol :) Merry Christmas to you too
    Wol Euler: yeah, it's lovely but hard work
    Wol Euler: take care, everyone
    Calvino Rabeni: Bye, fly well
    Korel Laloix: Everyone have a good day today?
    Calvino Rabeni nods, it is hard work :)
    oO0Oo Resident smiles at Wol
    oO0Oo Resident: sixth on
    Korel Laloix: sixth on?
    Calvino Rabeni: I wonder what it would be like to actually live with extended family rather than being thrown with them a couple of times per year.
    oO0Oo Resident: The chat command for the menorah's sixth candle
    Calvino Rabeni: Ah
    Korel Laloix: Oh OK.
    Korel Laloix: Good to know. Thanks.
    Korel Laloix: Heya Paradise
    Paradise Tennant: merry xmas korel cal sam :)) !
    Calvino Rabeni: Merry everything Paradise !
    Paradise Tennant: thank you
    oO0Oo Resident: Thank you Paradise. Good to see you :)
    oO0Oo Resident: Notions of family Cal.. primary, secondary, extended, and traditions, and making sense of what connects with what.. and what accepts, and conditioned and unconditioned movements of joyful utterances :)

    Calvino Rabeni: The center candle is special and doesn't contribute to the count... I guess
    Korel Laloix: Solstace, hanukkah, Christmas, New Year, Kwanzaa...... what else do people celibrate this time of year?
    stevenaia Michinaga: food, it;s all about the food
    Paradise Tennant: lol
    oO0Oo Resident: great question Korel ::laughs at Stevenaia::
    Paradise Tennant: hiya stev happy holidays :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: thanks, been eating alot :)
    Korel Laloix: Hopefully I will gain a couple of pounds.
    stevenaia Michinaga: you can have mine
    stevenaia Michinaga: special chocolate ponds
    stevenaia Michinaga: pounds
    Paradise Tennant: smile s been good this xmas .. did not entertain much so much easier :)
    Korel Laloix: If I can pick where it goes.. sure... siles
    Korel Laloix: We just had a lot of people over here.
    Paradise Tennant: smiles sounds like fun what did you cook
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes, for hours, finally I think I ahve the process of turning 15 pounds of patatoes into something wonderful before noon
    stevenaia Michinaga: and still enjoy the party that follows
    Paradise Tennant: smiles involving lots of goat cheese and cream :)
    Korel Laloix: Sort of some traditional things.. Turkey, Ham, Sweet Potatoes, Collard Greens, Fried Okra, Fry Bread, Bisquits, etc
    Paradise Tennant: sounds wonderful too
    Paradise Tennant: how do you make fry bread
    Korel Laloix: We have a couple of different recipies depending on what we want to do with them.
    Korel Laloix: But for both, in a cast iron skillet.
    Korel Laloix: I think we will have left overs for days though.
    Korel Laloix: Grandma and I both eat very little.
    Paradise Tennant: smiles the best part :)
    Paradise Tennant: hmm always the freezer :)
    Korel Laloix: Will make some turkey enchiladas tomorrow.
    Korel Laloix: And some potatoe pancakes as well.
    stevenaia Michinaga: that's what we ate
    stevenaia Michinaga: I think I was frying them for 4 hours
    stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: maybe one of those was pealing them and prep
    stevenaia Michinaga: a good time for all
    Paradise Tennant: smiles what holidays are about a good time for all :)
    Korel Laloix: WE don't peel regular potatoes.
    Korel Laloix: Just scrub them well.
    Korel Laloix: And they came from our garden so it was even better.
    oO0Oo Resident: :)
    Paradise Tennant: :)
    Calvino Rabeni: We had brussel sprouts and rutabaga from the garden
    Calvino Rabeni: I think two of the most unfavoured vegetables?
    Calvino Rabeni: Delicious of course
    Paradise Tennant: smles rutabagas are hard to peel but .. I like them :)
    Korel Laloix: I have heard of rutababa, but never actually had one.. or seen one I don't think.
    Paradise Tennant: smiles turnips ;)

    Korel Laloix: Looks like it could be good.
    Korel Laloix: Might have to try that sometime.
    stevenaia Michinaga: Perhaps we need a recipe section on the Wiki
    Calvino Rabeni: They are yellow with a pinkish blush on the outside, and a bit starchy
    Korel Laloix: I like starch.... smiles
    Korel Laloix: Baked sweetpotatoes are one of my favorites.
    Paradise Tennant: we use to make rumple dumps .. potatoes and turnips :) mashed with oh so much butter
    Korel Laloix: But then, sweetpotatoe fries are lovely as well.
    Korel Laloix: Can't do butter though.
    Calvino Rabeni: Those purple ones from japan are really good. I wonder if they could be grown here ... probably too cold
    Korel Laloix: But soounds lovely.
    Paradise Tennant: hmm yes the purples ones are small and easy to peal :)
    Korel Laloix: Grandma made teh fried Okra really spicy today.... and the greens... love it that way.
    Korel Laloix: Heya Luncindda
    oO0Oo Resident: Luci :)
    Lucinda Lavender: Heya Korel!
    Paradise Tennant: sigh making hungry korel I bet you grandmother is a lovely woman and good cook must be nice to be in the kitchen with her
    Lucinda Lavender: and every one:)
    Paradise Tennant: hiya luci
    Paradise Tennant: merry merry xmas :)
    oO0Oo Resident: (((Korel's gran)))
    Lucinda Lavender: :) merry merry....hopes you all have the music you love today
    Lucinda Lavender: and the food
    Lucinda Lavender: and the drink...and the fun
    stevenaia Michinaga: (movies and chinese food, a tradition
    oO0Oo Resident: Thanks Luci ^ ^ Likewise.
    Korel Laloix: That sounds great as wel.. What movies?
    Fox Monacular: Hello everyone!
    stevenaia Michinaga: The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, see the Swedish version, I liked it better
    Lucinda Lavender: favorite chinese food...hmmm
    oO0Oo Resident: Hark.. What foxy phenomena this way doth come?
    Lucinda Lavender: Hi Fox:)
    Fox Monacular: :)
    Calvino Rabeni: I found some music I like on youtube ... bell orchestra at the mormon tabernacle
    oO0Oo Resident: me agrees with Swedish version
    Calvino Rabeni: do you know it, CInda?
    Korel Laloix: I have heard of it.
    Lucinda Lavender: well do not know that particular music...but can imagine...
    oO0Oo Resident: Link Cal? :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hi sorry I'm late. My guests have only just elft
    Fox Monacular: Hi again, Aph:)
    Aphrodite Macbain: *left
    Paradise Tennant: smiles hiya aph merry merry xmas
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Fox
    Paradise Tennant: merry xmas fox :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Paradise
    oO0Oo Resident: Hi Aph !
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hi everyone
    Fox Monacular: merry xmas, everyone:)
    Lucinda Lavender: HIya aph...your antlers are fun1
    Aphrodite Macbain: Thanks!
    Lucinda Lavender: excuse me while I test the hummus...
    Fox Monacular: yes, I find myself staring at your antlers
    Aphrodite Macbain: I've just eaten too much
    Aphrodite Macbain: you are getting sleeeeepy fox
    stevenaia Michinaga: we were jsut talking about that
    Aphrodite Macbain: eating too much?
    Fox Monacular: I'm still working on my pie

    stevenaia Michinaga: hehe
    Aphrodite Macbain: apple and rhubarb with coconut Icecream
    stevenaia Michinaga: trying to resist ice cream for weeks
    stevenaia Michinaga: thanks Aph
    Korel Laloix: Just got another piece of home made blackberry cobler wth soy icecram on top.
    Lucinda Lavender: don't mentyions the ice cream..there is lavender ice cream in the freezer...grits her teeth
    Lucinda Lavender: grabs the arm chair
    Korel Laloix: lavender?
    Korel Laloix: Interesting.
    Lucinda Lavender: yes...locally made and so very delicious
    stevenaia Michinaga: hand me that chair arm pls
    oO0Oo Resident: lol
    Lucinda Lavender: sending it your way Steve
    Aphrodite Macbain: I'm so full I couln't move to the fridge
    Korel Laloix: Would not mind a taste.
    Lucinda Lavender: will send it to you instead Korel
    Korel Laloix: I cant really eat real icecream, just want a taste.
    Aphrodite Macbain: passes Korel some coconut icecream
    Korel Laloix: Thanks though.
    Lucinda Lavender: a taste can be enough
    Paradise Tennant: smiles
    Korel Laloix: Very glad I ran this morning.... Not sure I could right now..
    Lucinda Lavender: :))
    Lucinda Lavender: Cal how is your day?
    Aphrodite Macbain: I feel very relieved. My kitchen is a mess but everyone left happy
    Paradise Tennant: happy is what counts
    stevenaia Michinaga: hehe, I cleaned mine before the part, everthing else was jsut washing up
    stevenaia Michinaga: Party
    Korel Laloix: We are mostly cleaned up....
    Calvino Rabeni: The day was fine ... a lot of driving, a lot of food, a lot of stories, a lot of driving
    Lucinda Lavender: was it the latkes Steve?
    Aphrodite Macbain: My duck cooked properly, not a quack left behind
    Calvino Rabeni: :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: How far did you drive Cal?
    Korel Laloix: We had a few quail, but not duck. SOunds good though.
    Calvino Rabeni: 90 minutes north
    Aphrodite Macbain: Sounds like Canada
    Lucinda Lavender: nice to hear of the fun/ and the challenge...
    Calvino Rabeni: B'ham
    Aphrodite Macbain: right. just south - where your father lives, right?
    Calvino Rabeni: yes
    Aphrodite Macbain: who cooked dinner?
    Calvino Rabeni: Everybody did something
    Aphrodite Macbain: perfect
    Aphrodite Macbain: tomorrow I clean up
    Aphrodite Macbain: (my place not your father's)
    Calvino Rabeni: that's ok they're the clean-as-you-go-along type
    Lucinda Lavender: getting the borscht ready here for tomorrow
    stevenaia Michinaga: ooo, yum
    Calvino Rabeni: so it doesn't actually look too dramatic
    Calvino Rabeni: I sort of missed the mess
    Aphrodite Macbain: Lucinda- I wonder, do you sing with your family at Christnmas?
    Aphrodite Macbain: my family used to when we had a piano
    Lucinda Lavender: and hummus and bread and pie...well not really...Aph it is more like they watch me listen to the radio and identify which piece I am hearing
    Aphrodite Macbain: nods
    Lucinda Lavender: fun game actually to guess which piec it is
    Lucinda Lavender: peice
    Lucinda Lavender: piece
    Lucinda Lavender: none of those words look right to me tonight
    Aphrodite Macbain: My brother and I used to sing - I sang descant. it was a nice feeling. The rest of the year we really weren't in much harmony!
    Calvino Rabeni: pease ? like on earth?
    Aphrodite Macbain: piece
    Lucinda Lavender: song/piece
    Aphrodite Macbain: pease pudding hot, pease pudding cold, peas epudding in the pot 9 days old
    Lucinda Lavender: peas on earth:)
    Lucinda Lavender: nice to sing together...
    Lucinda Lavender: remember doing that with friends in high school
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes- row row row your boat..
    Lucinda Lavender: caroling
    Aphrodite Macbain: outside people's homes?
    Lucinda Lavender: yes in the neighborhood I lived in it was forested with windy roads
    Lucinda Lavender: and it became a tradition
    Aphrodite Macbain: lovely

    Lucinda Lavender: better experience in that neighborhood for some reason
    Lucinda Lavender: mysterious in that kind of dark...
    Lucinda Lavender: Luci wonders which places others experienced mysteriousness..
    Aphrodite Macbain: unfamiliar ones
    Lucinda Lavender: a special feeling...
    Aphrodite Macbain: dark empty streets in another country
    oO0Oo Resident: always open to the mystery
    stevenaia Michinaga: mostly in Nature
    stevenaia Michinaga: tress and sun
    Aphrodite Macbain: tress?
    Lucinda Lavender: how old when one first notices?
    stevenaia Michinaga: the pay of sun and trees
    stevenaia Michinaga: oops
    Aphrodite Macbain: notices what? mystry?
    Lucinda Lavender: yes...mystery in some natural experience of the world
    Paradise Tennant: old places that have a patina
    Aphrodite Macbain: the movement of trees in the sunlight Steve?
    Paradise Tennant: of stories lives lived .. an echo
    Lucinda Lavender: ancient cities?
    Paradise Tennant: a sensation to them
    stevenaia Michinaga: sun shadows, patterns, brought to you by the mysteries of nature
    Lucinda Lavender: nods
    Aphrodite Macbain: nods, and sounds
    Aphrodite Macbain: hushed subtle sounds
    Aphrodite Macbain: whispers
    Calvino Rabeni: The darkness seems to help. Somehow these seasonal traditions wouldn't seem the same in the height of summer and hot weather
    Lucinda Lavender: sunlight on a pond in the woods I remember...snow on a street in the dark...glistens
    Lucinda Lavender: yes Cal
    Calvino Rabeni: it's funny no doubt seeing santa and the snow men in the heat in Australia or South Africa
    Aphrodite Macbain: I suppose it is because one of our senses is not allowed to work as efficiently.
    Lucinda Lavender: the santa of the south...:)
    Aphrodite Macbain: and our brain is obliged to make up explanations and fill in the blanks
    Calvino Rabeni: That's resulted in one reason for brain growth in people evolved in the colder darker climates
    Aphrodite Macbain: our imagination has time to play
    Calvino Rabeni: (on a list of things that made our brains evolve bigger, darkness is one of them)
    Aphrodite Macbain: interesting. it allowed us to survive
    Lucinda Lavender: Luci remembers listneing to the pastoral part of the Messiah in high school while watching the snow come down on the trees and stream in the dark
    Paradise Tennant: smiles at luci
    Aphrodite Macbain: smiles
    Calvino Rabeni: But the "killer app" for the brain, I think nowadays is regarded to be "being sociable", that over tool use and hunting animals smaller than an elephant. Of course sociability helps a LOT with hunting and tool use so I suppose it amounts to the same thing
    Aphrodite Macbain: does anyone remember James Joyce's writing on snow
    Aphrodite Macbain: faling on the rooftops and cemeteries ...
    Aphrodite Macbain: all over ireland. From "The Dead"
    Calvino Rabeni: No, what's that about?
    Lucinda Lavender: not familiar with that one Aph
    Lucinda Lavender: :)) I know quite a few people who willingly say...I don't like people:)
    Aphrodite Macbain:

    It had begun to snow again. He watched sleepily the flakes, silver and dark, falling obliquely against the lamplight. The time had come for him to set out on his journey westward. Yes, the newspapers were right: snow was general all over Ireland. It was falling on every part of the dark central plain, on the treeless hills, falling softly upon the Bog of Allen and, farther westward, softly falling into the dark mutinous Shannon waves. It was falling, too, upon every part of the lonely churchyard on the hill where Michael Furey lay buried. It lay thickly drifted on the crooked crosses and headstones, on the spears of the little gate, on the barren thorns. His soul swooned slowly as he heard the snow falling faintly through the universe and faintly falling, like the descent of their last end, upon all the living and the dead.”
    ― James Joyce, Dubliners

    Aphrodite Macbain: One of my most favourite pieces of writing
    Lucinda Lavender: perhaps hard for them to reside amidst the social pressures...
    Aphrodite Macbain: Huston made a film from it. with Angelica Huston
    Lucinda Lavender: Luci reads...
    Paradise Tennant: great choice aph :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: I love the way th e words are repeated
    stevenaia Michinaga: waves to Wol

    Aphrodite Macbain: falling softly, softly falling
    oO0Oo Resident: Woly :)
    Paradise Tennant: smiles merry merry xmas wol :))
    Aphrodite Macbain: Greetings Woly
    Wol Euler: merry christmas, everyone
    Aphrodite Macbain: How is saskatchewan?
    Wol Euler: disappointingly warm
    Aphrodite Macbain: awww
    Wol Euler: it's raining right now
    stevenaia Michinaga: lol
    Wol Euler: RAIN. bah.
    Aphrodite Macbain: same as here!
    Aphrodite Macbain: indeed
    Lucinda Lavender: yep:0
    Lucinda Lavender: Korel how cold for you?
    Wol Euler: other than that, it's pretty good
    Aphrodite Macbain: Think of it as wet snow
    stevenaia Michinaga: food and friends?
    Korel Laloix: Below 80 is cold for me... smiles
    Aphrodite Macbain: Lots of friends and family Wol?
    Korel Laloix: And I sooooooo hate snow.
    Lucinda Lavender: :)))
    Korel Laloix: Take care all... off to another chat...
    Wol Euler: bye korel, take care
    Calvino Rabeni: Bye Korel
    Paradise Tennant: take care korel
    oO0Oo Resident: Bye Korel
    Aphrodite Macbain: Snow is lovely when it's soft and fluffy and falling softly
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bye
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bye! Korel
    Wol Euler: only family here, aph, I am with sister and her crew + our parents
    Aphrodite Macbain: Regina?
    Lucinda Lavender: eating together:)
    Wol Euler: yep
    Aphrodite Macbain: waves to Wol in regina
    Wol Euler: chocolate oranges
    Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
    Wol Euler wonders where aph is waving from
    Aphrodite Macbain: they would help
    Aphrodite Macbain: Vancouver
    Aphrodite Macbain: where it is also raining
    Wol Euler: ah :) a fair distance away
    Paradise Tennant: hmm the kind you bang and they fall apart ?
    stevenaia Michinaga: off to bed, night all
    Paradise Tennant: nite nite stev :))
    Wol Euler: 'night stevie, merry christmas
    Calvino Rabeni: Goodnight :)
    Wol Euler: yes!
    oO0Oo Resident: Night Stevenaia :)
    Wol Euler: exctly those
    Aphrodite Macbain: Nite steve. Hope dreams of sugar plumms dancce in your head
    Lucinda Lavender: sweet dreams to Steve
    Lucinda Lavender: and Korel
    Aphrodite Macbain: what is this thing Samuo?
    Aphrodite Macbain: what is a mindshift dreidel?
    oO0Oo Resident: Mindshift is the name of the maker of the object. ADreidel is a traditional game played during Chanukkah
    Aphrodite Macbain: Oh thanks!
    Aphrodite Macbain: wonders how to play the game
    Paradise Tennant: smiles thanks sam
    Lucinda Lavender: each side has a different symbol and you may take the money in the center all, half, put some in or something else I forget
    Wol Euler: ty sam
    Aphrodite Macbain: Nes Gadol Hayah Poh—"A great miracle happened here"
    Aphrodite Macbain: that's what the symbols say together
    Calvino Rabeni: Nice
    Wol Euler: oh!
    Aphrodite Macbain: it's a gambling game
    oO0Oo Resident: It is a freebie Dreidel.. aquired kind of last minute... limitations.. awkward to reset, and seems to always fall on Nun! ::smiles::
    Wol Euler: heh
    Lucinda Lavender: nun...do nothing?
    Lucinda Lavender: shin put one in
    Aphrodite Macbain: Nun stands for the Yiddish word nisht ("nothing"),
    Lucinda Lavender: Hey win half the pot

    Lucinda Lavender: Gimel ....win the whole pot
    Wol Euler: leaving, aph?
    Paradise Tennant: nite nite aph
    Aphrodite Macbain whispers "nite all"
    Wol Euler: goodngiht! sweet dreams
    Lucinda Lavender: have a great sleep aph
    oO0Oo Resident: Night Aph
    Aphrodite Macbain: Happy Chanukkah
    Aphrodite Macbain: twirls the dreidel
    Wol Euler: merry christmas, fox
    oO0Oo Resident: wb Fox :)
    Fox Monacular: hey Woly!
    Fox Monacular: looking festive:)
    Wol Euler: wow, fox is a fox
    Wol Euler: ty :)
    Fox Monacular: i know, mindbending:)
    Wol Euler: not these :)
    Lucinda Lavender: Luci better go for now...sweet dreams to all...
    oO0Oo Resident laughs
    Wol Euler: goodnight luci, take care
    oO0Oo Resident: sweet dreams Luci
    Fox Monacular: good night, Luci
    oO0Oo Resident thinks wow! what a dress :)
    Lucinda Lavender: thanks and cheers to all:)
    Paradise Tennant: nite nite luci :))
    Calvino Rabeni: The spinning top has a hypnotic effect, like a prayer wheel
    Fox Monacular: which spinning top?
    Paradise Tennant: the circle :)
    Wol Euler nods.
    Fox Monacular: oh, the pond?
    Wol Euler: no, behind you, by the column
    Wol Euler: tbeh dreidel
    Wol Euler: *the dreidel
    Fox Monacular: oh!
    Fox Monacular: didn't see it!
    Wol Euler: my dears, I'm going to have to head to bed. It's been a day of plentiful and rich food, and I am noding off
    Wol Euler: goodnight, gods bless, take care
    Paradise Tennant: nite nite wol
    Fox Monacular: good night!
    Calvino Rabeni: Good night !
    Fox Monacular: merry xmas!
    Fox Monacular: I'll head off as well:)
    Fox Monacular: take care everyone!
    Paradise Tennant: smiles think I will trundle off to bed too
    Calvino Rabeni: Bye Fox !
    oO0Oo Resident: Bye Wol.. Fox :)
    Paradise Tennant: thank you cal sam :) nice session enjoyed hearing about all the family time
    oO0Oo Resident has a hard time imagining Para trundling, but thinks it's a cute word anyway :)

    oO0Oo Resident: Sleep well Paradise
    Calvino Rabeni: Para's gotten very good at trundling by now :)
    Paradise Tennant: like words that sound like what they mean
    Calvino Rabeni: pushing a cart with wooden wheels over a plank floor
    Paradise Tennant: smiles exactly or the sound your slippers make on a wood floor if you are scruffing
    Paradise Tennant: smiles and poufs ( another great wod )
    oO0Oo Resident: scooch scooch :)
    Calvino Rabeni: I also will pull a disappearing act :)
    oO0Oo Resident: *hugs* Cal
    Calvino Rabeni: Take care 0; fly well
    oO0Oo Resident: ty
    Calvino Rabeni: :) you too, bye
    Tess Aristocrat: hello
    oO0Oo Resident: Hi :)

    oO0Oo Resident: http://is.gd/fxvaMb
    oO0Oo Resident: How is Christmas for you Tess?
    Tess Aristocrat: Well, it has been quiet
    Tess Aristocrat: I had a terrific migraine yesterday and all last night
    Tess Aristocrat: bad timing I know
    oO0Oo Resident: Maybe the timing has a message..
    Tess Aristocrat: other than that everyone was very happy ㋡
    oO0Oo Resident: Sorry to hear though. Migraine's are no fun.
    Tess Aristocrat: Have you ever had a migraine?
    oO0Oo Resident: I have not, but have had several people close to me who had them.
    Tess Aristocrat: I didn't have any med for it
    oO0Oo Resident: medicine?
    Tess Aristocrat: correct
    Tess Aristocrat: I just haven't had one in a long time
    Tess Aristocrat: Instead, I've been taking a different med in the evening before bed as a preventative with excellent results.
    Tess Aristocrat: But what happened is that I decreased the med to just one pill to see if I still really needed to take it..

    Tess Aristocrat: well, guess what
    oO0Oo Resident: Oh I see
    Tess Aristocrat: I still have a slight headache, though nothing like last night with the throwing up, etc
    oO0Oo Resident: I'm sorry Tess. Migraine's seem like endurances tests of human capacity on some level. So painful. So little can be done. I remember taking my then partner to emergency room in the middle of the night.



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