2012.01.07 19:00 - Impermanence

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Pema Pera. The comments are by Pema Pera.

    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Pema :)
    Pema Pera: Hi there!
    Pema Pera: You're sitting very far away from each other . . .
    Pema Pera: not what am I to do?
    Eliza Madrigal: hahah
    Eliza Madrigal: and we both sat next to orange cushions you like
    Pema Pera: hovering on top?
    oO0Oo Resident: Hi Pema :)
    Eliza Madrigal laughs
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Luci :)
    oO0Oo Resident: Hi Luci :)
    Pema Pera: ah, you noticed that I prefer the orange cushions?
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Lucinda Lavender: brb...
    Pema Pera: so I found one in the middle
    Lucinda Lavender: something missing...
    Pema Pera: scaring Luci away it seemed . . . .
    Eliza Madrigal: yes you did
    Eliza Madrigal: she'll be back
    Pema Pera: oh oh
    Eliza Madrigal: :)))
    Eliza Madrigal: the gnomes
    Pema Pera: ??!!
    Eliza Madrigal snorts like Corvi
    Eliza Madrigal: sorry... being silly
    Pema Pera: lost for words does happen here . . . but lost for underwear?
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    oO0Oo Resident: lol
    Eliza Madrigal: was noticing that Alfred has given us a session and it seems quote box
    Pema Pera: yes?
    oO0Oo Resident: all phenomena welcome in the pavilion
    Pema Pera: would you like to use it?
    Eliza Madrigal: oh, am not sure how. yet...
    Eliza Madrigal: but just noticing
    Pema Pera: this evening, how about talking about impermanence?
    Pema Pera: unless there is a more pertinent (permanent?) topic?
    oO0Oo Resident: OK, but not forever
    Pema Pera: hehehe
    Eliza Madrigal: :) love to
    Pema Pera: I've been noticing recently how strange our believe in matter is
    Pema Pera: *belief
    Pema Pera: the typical way of speaking is that there is a world, we are part of it, brains are part of us, and from brains somehow experience arises
    oO0Oo Resident: ears come to a point
    Pema Pera: pointed ears?
    Pema Pera: elves?
    Pema Pera: hi Rhia?
    Eliza Madrigal: elves and gnomes tonight :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Rhi
    Eliza Madrigal: will give you a short text in IM of the topic Pema's introduced
    Pema Pera: but as soon as we take time into account, this whole notion of a material world that is supposed to underpin reality becomes very shaky
    Rhiannon Dragoone: hi Samud
    oO0Oo Resident: Hi Rhi :)
    Pema Pera: just throw a stone through the air
    Rhiannon Dragoone: I hate to be a bother, but could someone rez a fire?
    Pema Pera: each moment it is somewhere else -- and each next moment the stone of the previous moment is gone forever
    Pema Pera: so how can material "reality" be considered a basis of anything else?
    Pema Pera: So that was my opening thought :-)
    Rhiannon Dragoone: Pema, epistemologically, I don't think it can. As wea come to know material things through perceptions, which are mental
    Eliza Madrigal: Welcome back Luci :)
    Rhiannon Dragoone: Of course, that doesn't necessarily cash out metaphycically, but it does make it difficult for materialissts
    Pema Pera: hi Luci!
    Rhiannon Dragoone: Hi Luc!
    Pema Pera: and hi Multi!
    Rhiannon Dragoone: Hi Multi!
    Lucinda Lavender: HI all:)
    Eliza Madrigal: perceptions can be taken as things, as a kind of material as well?
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Multi
    Multiverse1 Resident: Hi all also
    Rhiannon Dragoone: oh, thannks, whoever set the floor on fire.
    Pema Pera: so there are two ways of approaching this question: more abstractly and philosophically, or more as a kind of visualization/koan/point-to-ponder in a more contemplative approach
    oO0Oo Resident: close enough Rhi?
    Multiverse1 Resident: nice fire tonight
    Rhiannon Dragoone: I feel warmer all ready
    Pema Pera: :-)
    Rhiannon Dragoone: Well, maybe just a tad, Samud
    Rhiannon Dragoone: A tad closer.
    oO0Oo Resident: Stone through the air Pema?
    Rhiannon Dragoone: Wouldn't want the cushion set on fire, nor my hair, though
    Multiverse1 Resident: Just came from inside the torch myself
    Pema Pera: and interesting as the philosophical side is, for me the contemplative side -- direct seeing -- is at least as important
    Pema Pera: and feels very similar to mathematics
    Pema Pera: where you can study a problem -- but then you "see" the solution
    Pema Pera: using mind in a different way
    Rhiannon Dragoone: Mathematical truths are mental, and show that there can be an objective mind too; like Popper's 3rd World or Hegel's Absolute
    Pema Pera: the step-by-step versus the "aha!" approach
    Rhiannon Dragoone: Pema, there are "aha!"s in math
    Rhiannon Dragoone: In fact, all the breakthrough are "Aha!"
    Rhiannon Dragoone: Thanks, Samud.
    Lucinda Lavender: Luci listens...
    Rhiannon Dragoone: It feels good on my back; I'll tell you if I start to blister
    Pema Pera: Sam, you asked " Stone through the air Pema?", can you elaborate?
    Eliza Madrigal: From aha one works backwards perhaps
    Eliza Madrigal listens
    oO0Oo Resident: You had said "Just throw a stone through the air" Pema.. wasn't sure what you meant
    Rhiannon Dragoone ducks in case the stone falls on her noggin
    Pema Pera: what I meant was that each moment the stone is somewhere else
    Pema Pera: the old stone is clearly gone, no trace left
    Rhiannon Dragoone: Like Theseus's ship?
    Rhiannon Dragoone: Hi Tess!
    Pema Pera: it's only our need for interpretation that posits that there is some "eternal" stone that is a string that connects the beads we see
    Pema Pera: hi Tess!
    Pema Pera: does that make sense?
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Tess :)
    Pema Pera: purely empirically, there are stone appearances -- but what is that esoteric "stone" that we are positing that is supposed to jump from moment to moment -- can we ever experience the permanence of that stone, above something like a semblance of different phenomena?
    Rhiannon Dragoone: We experience the duration of the stone, Pema; in actual experience, we don't break it down to discreet impressions like you're suggesting
    Pema Pera: and yet we tend to live our life as if that imaginary stone is the real thing, and appearances just secondary things
    Rhiannon Dragoone: It's not like a motion picture, which is really a succession of stills
    Pema Pera: yes, Rhia, that's a good point
    Lucinda Lavender: Luci thinks of photographs...and how they display one stage of the existense of a thing
    Eliza Madrigal nods Luci
    Tess Aristocrat: hello :)
    Pema Pera: but the interpretation still goes beyond the experience
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Lucinda Lavender: HI Tess:)
    Rhiannon Dragoone: hi, Tess!
    Pema Pera: we feel as if we can hold a lasting object in our hands, when we pick up a stone -- it took a long time for us as infants to learn that
    Tess Aristocrat: Serious lag issues sorry
    Lucinda Lavender: so each moment is a new experience...
    Pema Pera: but it's an abstraction, something imaginary
    Pema Pera: which has taken over our consciousness -- like an occupying force
    Lucinda Lavender: an organizing principle perhaps
    Pema Pera: and we pay hommage to the occupier almost all of our waking moments . . . .
    Pema Pera: yes, it starts as organizing principle
    Pema Pera: but then it crowds out the rest and takes center stage
    Rhiannon Dragoone: Well, abstratiion does not equate with imaginary
    Eliza Madrigal: if we become aware of the imposition then discreet impressions do seem possible
    Pema Pera: a revolution of the bureaucrats in us :)
    Pema Pera: yes
    Rhiannon Dragoone: Well, impressions are really prehensile; they hook to one another; there is no disreet impressions.
    Rhiannon Dragoone: We don't experience things like flippiing of cards to make motion.
    Rhiannon Dragoone: We experience, instead, moving objects
    Lucinda Lavender: yes...and live our livethe leap
    Rhiannon Dragoone: We might anlayze them into discreet objects, but that's the interretaion, the imposition
    Pema Pera: what I'm trying to convey is a feeling, a sense, more than definitions . . . . the amazingly surprising nature of reality once we drop our bureaucratic organizling overlay
    Pema Pera: yes, Luci
    Rhiannon Dragoone: Well, *that* I agree with
    Eliza Madrigal: I'm suggesting that it is possible actually.. to see layers in what at first seemed solid
    Rhiannon Dragoone: Reality is always amazing, a soure of wonder, of surprise; if you look at it the right way
    Rhiannon Dragoone: And I agree with that, too, Eliza
    Rhiannon Dragoone: I"m just so agreeable tonight; I'm disgusting myself.
    Eliza Madrigal: must be the warm fire
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Multiverse1 Resident: the rock is made up of many grains of sand, and will wither the opposite way it was built.
    Rhiannon Dragoone: It does make me drowsy and happy; but then being packed in snow at -30 degrees does that too. Go figure
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Rhiannon Dragoone: I'mm pretty sure I won't wake up dead from this fire, though
    Lucinda Lavender: we have such a need to repeat
    Lucinda Lavender: to be sure
    Rhiannon Dragoone: Luc, yes, we are creatures of habit and we need order
    Rhiannon Dragoone: My dog taught me that
    Lucinda Lavender: so we look at a new expereince and sort it...same or different
    Rhiannon Dragoone: Luc, if we're a same or different person; some see the similarities first; some the differences, some are samd & different types
    Pema Pera: . I experience a stone, and I focus on the stone calling it matter; I experience a stone, and I focus on our experience, calling it experience; I experience a stone, and I focus on I, calling it my self; but in all three cases, I'm just making up labels, interpretations; none of that is real . . . there is no stone, no experience, no self, other than the direct givenness that I put in word as "I experience a stone".
    Pema Pera: so yes, Luci, it's a kind of sorting
    Eliza Madrigal: :)) thank you Pema
    Lucinda Lavender: yes helpful
    Multiverse1 Resident: we yuse the past as a weathervane, to guage what we see in the here and now. what we "know" from our memories of learning. We know fire burns, but Rhi knows this one will not.
    Rhiannon Dragoone: yes, thank's for sharing your thoughts
    Pema Pera: and I agree with Rhia about the philosophical interpretations, which are also interesting
    Rhiannon Dragoone: Multi, some fires warm, some fires burn; some fires prepare your food
    Pema Pera: but stem from a different orientation
    Multiverse1 Resident: but to touch it
    Pema Pera is also in an agreeable mood today :-)
    Eliza Madrigal: hair on fire :)
    Rhiannon Dragoone: Yes, you were trying to express the mystery and wonder of life, Pema. When I caught on to that, I agreed with you
    Rhiannon Dragoone: Eliza, not yet; lol
    Rhiannon Dragoone: And my back isn't blistering.
    Eliza Madrigal: (brb apologies)
    Rhiannon Dragoone catches a snow flake on her tongue
    Pema Pera: and yes, multi, the role of memory in all this is very interesting
    Pema Pera: memory occurs in the present, and then we invent a past to have something "real" to let that memory point to . . . .
    Multiverse1 Resident: memory of a different past, the past of the stone is what you speak?
    Pema Pera: we are all like jugglers inviting bits and pieces of reality all over the place
    Pema Pera: as scaffolding to hold us what is just present here, what *is*
    Multiverse1 Resident: absolutly
    Tess Aristocrat: There are also 'false memories'
    Multiverse1 Resident: yep
    Pema Pera: oh yes, and we can make distinctions
    Pema Pera: within the game of "let's do as if we live in a real world in time and space"
    Pema Pera: we all have learned to play the game well
    Multiverse1 Resident: tell someone something over and over, yourself or the public, they can believe
    Pema Pera: but we *can* question the whole game
    Pema Pera: by the way, returning to the game, alas, I have to leave now -- am typing here in Kyoto station, and have to catch a train to Tokyo, in a few minutes . . . .
    Tess Aristocrat: If you take a dozen people and let them view a scene, then ask them all later to recount the events you'll get different stories.
    Multiverse1 Resident: the observer
    Pema Pera: yes, very much so!
    Tess Aristocrat: Bye Pema
    Rhiannon Dragoone: oh, tc, Pema
    Pema Pera: sorry to have to leave such an interesting conversation . . . .
    Lucinda Lavender: Luci thinking...the game is motivated by need to know...is this real? and then after a certain point perhaps the need changes...
    Pema Pera: I'll read the rest in the log :)
    Tess Aristocrat: be well :)
    Rhiannon Dragoone: Pema, just come back; we'll no doubt resu;me it
    Pema Pera: sure!
    Pema Pera: bye for now, thank you all !
    Multiverse1 Resident: pema, the juggler is an excellent example
    Lucinda Lavender: happy breathing...
    Rhiannon Dragoone: oh, I read something about false memory earlier today.
    Tess Aristocrat: yes?
    Rhiannon Dragoone: Actually, more how people shape their memories to conform with what they think of as truth.
    Rhiannon Dragoone: There was this CSI in W. Virgina, later in Texas; made everything up.
    Tess Aristocrat: I watched a program on it a week or so ago
    Tess Aristocrat: It was very interesting
    Multiverse1 Resident: yes, as age aquires the memories drift one way or another
    Rhiannon Dragoone: This woman was raped, and excluded this one man from being the perp, 'till she heard the lab tests said it was him. And she then remembered it was him. The lab tests though were completely made up and he was, in fat, innocent
    oO0Oo Resident: [oops.. too late.. but..Pema, Isn't questioning the game, kind of the game as well? If we have learned to play the game well, has it always been so with humans, or more product of miore recent human society's conditioning? I guess i wonder why truth is so oddly hidden. Maybe just from a concept conditioned frame of reference it is.]
    oO0Oo Resident: sorry.. cross threads
    Rhiannon Dragoone: The advantage of text, Samud; we can take up botdh threads
    Tess Aristocrat: :)
    Tess Aristocrat: yes
    Lucinda Lavender: ok by me
    Rhiannon Dragoone: I found it interesting that the woman's memory changed to fit "the facts"
    Eliza Madrigal reads back
    Multiverse1 Resident: In rl I would raise my white flag and surrender now.
    Lucinda Lavender: wondering why I cannpot see the names of speakers...only their profile pic...confusing as the pic is small
    Rhiannon Dragoone: When her original memory was right and the one that came after "the facts" was wrong.
    Rhiannon Dragoone: And "the facts" were made up
    Rhiannon Dragoone: Multi, lol
    Multiverse1 Resident: my frieinds would tell you this
    Lucinda Lavender: phew now names are back
    Eliza Madrigal: [bye Pema]
    Multiverse1 Resident: ms fix it?
    Rhiannon Dragoone: Luc, if you stopped starking at my pbk's boobs, maybe the names wouldn't disappear (lol; I know it only seems like that)
    Multiverse1 Resident: haha
    Tess Aristocrat: < never starks...
    Lucinda Lavender: I stare at the words only...:)
    Multiverse1 Resident: me too,maybe I should wander more
    Lucinda Lavender: since they are my indication of our topic
    Rhiannon Dragoone: I don't; I look at everything; as I can sometimes get the energies of people through their avatars
    Multiverse1 Resident: hmmm
    Rhiannon Dragoone: One person old me the other day that she wasn't upset with me.
    Multiverse1 Resident: and/
    Rhiannon Dragoone: She said this three times; each time, I felt more stridently. And I could feel the energies
    Rhiannon Dragoone: She was really upset with me.
    Bertram Jacobus: hello pabers ! :-)
    Multiverse1 Resident: a hint you got
    oO0Oo Resident: Hallo Bert ::waves::
    Eliza Madrigal: Hello Bertram :)
    Multiverse1 Resident: Hi Bertrum
    Lucinda Lavender: HI Bert:)
    Multiverse1 Resident: am
    Tess Aristocrat: Bert!
    Rhiannon Dragoone: Hi Bert!
    Bertram Jacobus: (i´m NOT bertrum) ... ;-)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Lucinda Lavender: so ?
    Eliza Madrigal: am not um
    Multiverse1 Resident: yes sorry
    Lucinda Lavender: who are you?
    Eliza Madrigal: there is an um
    oO0Oo Resident: lol
    Bertram Jacobus: righty right - ty eliza ! :-)
    Tess Aristocrat: :)
    Eliza Madrigal giggles
    oO0Oo Resident: who are we indeed :)
    Lucinda Lavender: yes...what is the real story?
    Multiverse1 Resident: B e r t r a m 100tymes, bad Multi
    Tess Aristocrat: yam what I yam..
    Bertram Jacobus: i know somebody who answers this question with "nobody" - i like that ...
    Lucinda Lavender: nodding
    oO0Oo Resident: (((Multi)))
    Lucinda Lavender: wonding what it would be like to have a conversation without names attached
    Rhiannon Dragoone: Well, I met this female avi who's display name is "No one." She wants to be a complete slave
    Bertram Jacobus: it seems to be my karma, that a bertrum is way longer member of this group ... ;-)
    Multiverse1 Resident: like when someone asks me what's up. My response every tyme "Life!"
    Eliza Madrigal: :) Bert, for time logged, maybe not...
    Multiverse1 Resident: I did not know that
    Lucinda Lavender: Bertram and Berturm
    Multiverse1 Resident: I feel like the " No-one" now, but that's ok
    Eliza Madrigal: and Zen and Zon
    Lucinda Lavender: ooops Bertrum
    Multiverse1 Resident: my finger follies
    Bertram Jacobus: yes - so mixin´ up happens now and then here ... may be, "bertrum" is a more familiar name in the us then mine ?
    Eliza Madrigal: neither are particularly common
    Multiverse1 Resident: no, not sure really
    Lucinda Lavender: I think perhaps so...
    oO0Oo Resident: I must leave. Nice to see you all. Thanks for your interesting thoughts and meanigful presence :)
    Eliza Madrigal: we had a conversation once about people switching avies, guess that would be like no names because everyone would be a question mark
    Tess Aristocrat: Take care Sam
    Bertram Jacobus: byee sam
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, okay, bye Sam
    Lucinda Lavender: bye Sam...nice evening to you
    Rhiannon Dragoone: tc, Samud
    Multiverse1 Resident: bye Sam, Be safe
    Rhiannon Dragoone: Thanks for the fire.
    oO0Oo Resident: bfn :)
    Lucinda Lavender: interesting idea Eliza
    Eliza Madrigal: if all in unknown alts, would be the same effect I guess...
    Eliza Madrigal: but most of our alts are known among one another at this point
    Multiverse1 Resident: saw an experiment here in the PaB logs about making a new avi and doing things as one
    Rhiannon Dragoone: oh, not really. Eliza. We'd peg the comments to different people in that case.
    Rhiannon Dragoone: No body knows all my alts.
    Eliza Madrigal: nods Multi, yes we've done two Art of Being experiments similar
    Multiverse1 Resident: yes , thought I went through that
    Eliza Madrigal: in both cases we learned a lot but again, most of us were known
    Multiverse1 Resident: I have an alt actually
    Eliza Madrigal: a few held out for the whole experiment not revealing
    Paradise Tennant: smiles and waves all round :) and listens :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi paradise :))
    Lucinda Lavender: HI Paradise...
    Rhiannon Dragoone: Hi, Paradise!
    Bertram Jacobus: hey hoo paradise ! ... :-)
    Multiverse1 Resident: it's funny though, I am the alt, "Multi" and the real alt is what I entered sl with
    Rhiannon Dragoone: The real alt?
    Rhiannon Dragoone: What's a real alt?
    Multiverse1 Resident: In essence this is more the "me" in rl
    Paradise Tennant: smiles hiya bertram .. eliza .. lucinda .. mult rhi and Tess :)))
    Multiverse1 Resident: My alt was a robot coming in here
    Paradise Tennant: *multi :)
    Eliza Madrigal: interesting
    Multiverse1 Resident: Hi Paradise, I love that name.
    Rhiannon Dragoone: oh, that's ihnterestig, Multi. I was told by one guardian he preferred me to come here, not Huntress, as I was more "authentic." I had to laugh, as Huntress is almost exactly like me in RL, whereas I deviate just a little from myself in RL. (Wonders if anyone guess how. lol)
    Rhiannon Dragoone: He since said that he was fine with Huntress
    Eliza Madrigal: hmm
    Multiverse1 Resident: hmmm also
    Multiverse1 Resident: I could go further, but will leave this alone for a spell methinx
    Rhiannon Dragoone: But I'm not sure what a real alt is Multi> I can guess. I don't consider Huntress to be an alt, but a co0primary, as we both represent our paratar.
    Rhiannon Dragoone: Unlike some of my other alts.
    Tess Aristocrat: Para! :)
    Eliza Madrigal: thanks for a neat session all, be well :)
    Rhiannon Dragoone: Eliza, you leaving?
    Rhiannon Dragoone: nooooo
    Multiverse1 Resident: well I'm not a flying robot for sure
    Paradise Tennant: nite nite eliza sweet dreams :)
    Bertram Jacobus: byee eliza ! *wave* ...
    Tess Aristocrat: Eliza, you take care <3
    Eliza Madrigal: :)) ty Rhi
    Multiverse1 Resident: bye eliza
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye Tess <3 ty
    Multiverse1 Resident: bye bye
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye Paradise, Bert, Luci, Multi (pema and sam) Hugs
    Rhiannon Dragoone waves at Eliza
    Tess Aristocrat: sits like a tiny...
    Multiverse1 Resident: falling in the ground even
    Paradise Tennant: smiles
    Paradise Tennant: what was the topic tonight
    Rhiannon Dragoone: bye, Luc
    Rhiannon Dragoone: Paradise, it was how being was presented; ;Pema thought an atomistic view would show the different layers of realiity and make it more wondrous. Or something like that
    Tess Aristocrat: WB Luci
    Multiverse1 Resident: Rhia and Pema were heavy into it.
    Rhiannon Dragoone: oh, you're just rearranging yourself, luce
    Lucinda Lavender: :))
    Lucinda Lavender: was bumped off...
    Tess Aristocrat: Well!
    Paradise Tennant: liking this quote box immensely :)
    Lucinda Lavender: I see on this box here...next to me...a message:)
    Tess Aristocrat: yes
    Multiverse1 Resident: yes he brought it yesterday
    Lucinda Lavender: new experience
    Multiverse1 Resident: I sat and watched for a tyme
    Lucinda Lavender: for me
    Rhiannon Dragoone: Tess, did you get too warm sitting by me?
    Paradise Tennant: it rotates :) through a list I guess :) great idea ;)
    Lucinda Lavender: ah!
    Lucinda Lavender: I see
    Multiverse1 Resident: humans are flat?
    Multiverse1 Resident: a 2 dimensional world
    Paradise Tennant: how being is presented in the sense of how we take information in .. on five senses basis ?
    Multiverse1 Resident: flatland
    Paradise Tennant: smiles that is a great book multi :)
    Multiverse1 Resident: yes it is
    Multiverse1 Resident: I asked earlier in the week what was the 1st sense. I wonder how people would think they were added as we evolved.
    Multiverse1 Resident: I said touch was 1st
    Multiverse1 Resident: smell 2nd/
    Multiverse1 Resident: ?
    Multiverse1 Resident: just an inquisition in my head
    Rhiannon Dragoone: Bye, everyone!
    Rhiannon Dragoone: Thanks for a great convo!
    Multiverse1 Resident: leaving rhi, bye
    Lucinda Lavender: bye Rhi:)
    Tess Aristocrat: bye Rhia xox
    Paradise Tennant: take care rhi :)
    Rhiannon Dragoone: bye, Luc
    Rhiannon Dragoone: bye, Tess
    Rhiannon Dragoone: By Multi
    Rhiannon Dragoone: Bye Paradise
    Rhiannon Dragoone: That's a nice red jacket, btw
    Paradise Tennant: nite nite tess :)
    Rhiannon Dragoone waves and poofs
    Tess Aristocrat: oh not leaving just yet, just getting up out of the baby bear chair
    Paradise Tennant: smiles
    Lucinda Lavender: :)
    Paradise Tennant: loved that fairy tale it was all about fitting in through trying things
    Paradise Tennant: perfect story for kids
    Lucinda Lavender: "just right"
    Paradise Tennant: goldilocks
    Multiverse1 Resident: I tried that seat when no-one was here, felt sunken
    Lucinda Lavender: :))
    Paradise Tennant: most of the fairy tales or kid stories have a lesson to them .. I find
    Tess Aristocrat: nods :)
    Multiverse1 Resident: yes I have a quote from Aesop for you
    Paradise Tennant: still enjoy children's fiction .. because I like the unfettered imagination .. and the content :)
    Lucinda Lavender: yes...strong messages about a viriety of things
    Lucinda Lavender: variety
    Paradise Tennant: that are useful :) to know :)
    Multiverse1 Resident: To be Dead, You once have Lived!
    Tess Aristocrat: Well, mostly I was just being silly but I wanted to sit by Para because she was the only person over here
    Paradise Tennant: smiles thank you Tess :)
    Paradise Tennant: really think silly is to be encouraged :)
    Multiverse1 Resident: hmm proximity matters in the virtual world
    Paradise Tennant: life should be spontaneous we so over think things
    Lucinda Lavender: luci wonders if there is a knitting animation
    Tess Aristocrat: I highly agree, 1 billion children can't be wrong!
    Multiverse1 Resident: laughter is very healthy indedd
    Lucinda Lavender: :))
    Paradise Tennant: :))
    Lucinda Lavender: imagine sitting here knitting...
    Paradise Tennant: I suspect there has to be a knitting animation .. somewhere
    Lucinda Lavender: yes
    Tess Aristocrat: I bet there is!
    Multiverse1 Resident: and some would probably love it
    Lucinda Lavender: :)
    Paradise Tennant: yes found one :)
    Tess Aristocrat: on another note, I bought a paintbal maching
    Paradise Tennant: in fact their is a knitting cafe :)
    Paradise Tennant: wow in sl or rl ?
    Lucinda Lavender: !
    Multiverse1 Resident: I played sudoku here today,as I would usually in my local paper
    Tess Aristocrat: er..machine
    Tess Aristocrat: lol
    Paradise Tennant: cool
    Paradise Tennant: games are great for your brain :)
    Tess Aristocrat: in SL
    Lucinda Lavender: smiles
    Tess Aristocrat: it is a riot!
    Tess Aristocrat: you would laugh and laugh
    Paradise Tennant: so you gear up and shot paint at other avis ?
    Multiverse1 Resident: paint ball?
    Paradise Tennant: *shoot
    Tess Aristocrat: yes :P
    Paradise Tennant: sounds like fun :))
    Multiverse1 Resident: like the banana gun was a riot here
    Tess Aristocrat: and run and hide just like hide and seek :D
    Paradise Tennant: plus no bruises
    Paradise Tennant: hurts a bit in rl
    Tess Aristocrat: exactly
    Multiverse1 Resident: or paint
    Lucinda Lavender: nothing to clean up?
    Multiverse1 Resident: no money to spend either
    Paradise Tennant: actually I think sl can save you money .. and I find it makes me realize how little substance there is to things :)
    Multiverse1 Resident: they are expensive if you really get into it. My friends can spend $500 easily
    Tess Aristocrat: You each start with 100% life but when you hit their avvy they lose a bit of 'life'
    Multiverse1 Resident: kool
    Paradise Tennant: ahh kk
    Multiverse1 Resident: sounds like my other game "Fate"
    Lucinda Lavender: sounds like fun
    Multiverse1 Resident: could even make metalic paint or something
    Lucinda Lavender: do you have to use it in a certain place?
    Tess Aristocrat: It was just fun..running about like little kids
    Tess Aristocrat: Well, you can just set the machine up wherever you want :)
    Multiverse1 Resident: flame thrower comes to mind, but that's just cause of the fire. Can't burn in sl
    Tess Aristocrat: then, each person that clicks it gets a paintball gun
    Lucinda Lavender: need hiding places etc?
    Paradise Tennant: shall we try it out ?
    Multiverse1 Resident: and I know there are sims like that here I am sure
    Multiverse1 Resident: I'll pass on that, but may try paintball
    Tess Aristocrat: hehehe...
    Paradise Tennant: does it stain ?
    Tess Aristocrat: can we rez it here?
    Paradise Tennant: you should be able to
    Lucinda Lavender: would be curious
    Tess Aristocrat: well no..lol
    Paradise Tennant: do we need to get into really old clothes :)
    Lucinda Lavender: :)))
    Multiverse1 Resident: haha
    Paradise Tennant: have a few items from 2006 that would work :)
    Lucinda Lavender: :)))
    Tess Aristocrat: well, I am wearing my fatigues...hahaha
    Multiverse1 Resident: your killing me
    Multiverse1 Resident: with laughter
    Paradise Tennant: can you fly or do you have stay on the ground
    Paradise Tennant: are there rules ?
    Tess Aristocrat: no using the minimap
    Lucinda Lavender: :)
    Paradise Tennant: ok
    Lucinda Lavender: want to see how this works
    Lucinda Lavender: then have to go watch a movcie:)
    Lucinda Lavender: movie
    Paradise Tennant: what's the movie tonight luci ?
    Lucinda Lavender: Midnight in Paris...
    Lucinda Lavender: woody allen
    Tess Aristocrat: well, come on... :)
    Tess Aristocrat: come on Multi
    Paradise Tennant: okies
    Tess Aristocrat: runs off
    Paradise Tennant: how do these things work ?
    Multiverse1 Resident: yep
    Multiverse1 Resident: ?
    Lucinda Lavender: first I got the gun...dragged it to me and then went back to activate
    Lucinda Lavender: just my process...
    Lucinda Lavender: not sure if it will worl
    Lucinda Lavender: k
    Paradise Tennant: i see you have type m go into mouse look and then it will shoot paint at what ever you aim your camera at
    Lucinda Lavender: how do I make it shoot?
    Paradise Tennant: you type m go into mouse look
    Paradise Tennant: then left click on your mouse to make it shoot
    Multiverse1 Resident: get a messsage can't rezz because owner of land will not allow it
    Paradise Tennant: hmm
    Multiverse1 Resident: Am I dead?
    Paradise Tennant: no but you have taken a hit
    Paradise Tennant: you are down to 65 percent
    Multiverse1 Resident: ah yes 70%
    Paradise Tennant: have you been able to shoot yet luci ?
    Multiverse1 Resident: Oh you gain back
    Lucinda Lavender: does using a laptop without a mouse mean I am not going to be able?
    Multiverse1 Resident: 83%
    Multiverse1 Resident: oh well just shoot at me I'll be a target
    Lucinda Lavender: not been able to as of yet
    Paradise Tennant: try pressing the left side of your touch pad
    Paradise Tennant: go into mouse look and press the left side of your touch pad
    Tess Aristocrat: yes
    Tess Aristocrat: just left click while in mouselook
    Lucinda Lavender: sorry dear!
    Lucinda Lavender: had to try
    Tess Aristocrat: lolllll
    Multiverse1 Resident: if I could shott Tes you woulda got hit 6 tymes
    Tess Aristocrat: it's ok!!! it's just paint!
    Paradise Tennant: smiles did you get off a shot luci did not see because of the chat window
    Paradise Tennant: can you not shoot mulit
    Paradise Tennant: multi ?
    Multiverse1 Resident: no
    Lucinda Lavender: I did it!
    Paradise Tennant: have to go into mouse look then left click
    Multiverse1 Resident: get a message, cannot rez because owner won't allow it
    Tess Aristocrat: Multi, go and touch the paint box to activate yours
    Paradise Tennant: type m to get in mouse look
    Multiverse1 Resident: activated and can shoot, but get the message then no paint
    Lucinda Lavender: ok....I shot each of you with messages of appreciation
    Tess Aristocrat: lollll
    Paradise Tennant: smiles at luci thanks :)))
    Lucinda Lavender: going to have to go for now...thanks for the fun TEss and Para and Multi
    Paradise Tennant: thanks tess .. interesting game .. think I will scoot too.. :)
    Multiverse1 Resident: I can't do anything here, not even rez, wait I can do one thing
    Tess Aristocrat: ok, enjoy the movie
    Multiverse1 Resident: bye all
    Tess Aristocrat: by Multi
    Lucinda Lavender: bye:)
    Lucinda Lavender: sweet dreams all...
    Paradise Tennant: smiles thanks for the conversation the company.. namaste :)
    Tess Aristocrat: see you all later :)
    Paradise Tennant: sweet dreams all :))

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    Luci's words not appearing at the very beginning, my saying 'the gnomes' seems like a nervous tick. hah... :)
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