2012.01.08 07:00 - Expectations

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Adams Rubble. The comments are by Adams Rubble.

    I had trouble getting into SL this morning. When I finally did get in, I had trouble getting to PaB. I was flying in from afar when Xirana sent me a tp which brought me down into the pavilion.

    Xirana Oximoxi: hi Adams!!! :)
    Adams Rubble: Hello Xirana
    Adams Rubble: Thank you for the tp
    Xirana Oximoxi: yvw:)...
    Adams Rubble: How are you today
    Xirana Oximoxi: do you know if the Guardian sessions have also restart?
    Adams Rubble: yes today
    Xirana Oximoxi: I am fine ty:) a little tired of so much holidays with family up and down... now some peace:)
    Adams Rubble: Just in case I crash, I do have the log claimed
    Xirana Oximoxi: oh! ok:)
    Xirana Oximoxi: perfect
    Adams Rubble: I am having a nice weekend trip
    Xirana Oximoxi: you will receive it even if you are not here, I think
    Adams Rubble: in Washington DC
    Xirana Oximoxi: nice:) I've never been to USA... a must do travel :)
    Adams Rubble: we have been to a number of museums and public monuments in the last few days
    Adams Rubble: Hello archdivine :)
    Xirana Oximoxi: hello achdivine:)
    Xirana Oximoxi: what a fun avi!! :)
    archdivine Resident: hi all
    archdivine Resident: sure
    Adams Rubble: Have you been here veofre archdivine?
    Xirana Oximoxi: we must jump in to be safe from the deluge!! :)
    archdivine Resident: sure
    archdivine Resident: i was some months ago here as Barcalona
    Adams Rubble: ahh, nice to meet your new avatar
    archdivine Resident: and a year before as Adoro Rhapsody
    Xirana Oximoxi: ah ok:) then you know we record the chat:)
    archdivine Resident: yes i know
    archdivine Resident: no problem
    Xirana Oximoxi: lol... do you have fun changing the avatar?
    archdivine Resident: i think its free publicity
    Xirana Oximoxi: I like this one.is it possible to sit in? have you tried?
    archdivine Resident: yes i feel comfortable with it
    Adams Rubble: Hello Multiverse :)
    Adams Rubble: Yes, a very neat avatar
    Xirana Oximoxi: hello Multiverse :)
    archdivine Resident: i met Multiverse 1 some days ago
    Multiverse1 Resident: Hi Xirana, Adams, and Art
    archdivine Resident: interesting difference between universe and multivers
    Multiverse1 Resident: Arch
    Xirana Oximoxi: also..today it seems someone was afraid to have cold...we have a nice fire
    archdivine Resident: i like the fire
    Multiverse1 Resident: Arch, that is similar to the avitar I entered sl with
    Xirana Oximoxi: yes, it gives a warm visual sensation:)
    archdivine Resident: ok
    archdivine Resident: why did u change it ?
    Multiverse1 Resident: without hetting burned
    Multiverse1 Resident: nobody, or 99% of the avis were human
    archdivine Resident: ok
    Multiverse1 Resident: I felt rather out of place
    archdivine Resident: but i like to be a thing
    Multiverse1 Resident: but I still like it!
    Adams Rubble: I sometimes feel out of place when I am a llama
    archdivine Resident: i could also choose a robot avatar
    Xirana Oximoxi: yes... mostly I see are human..but also we have boxy and an Elephant (Rid) :)
    Adams Rubble: my llama avatar keeps wanting to graze in the grass--hard to keep it in the pavilion
    Xirana Oximoxi: :))
    archdivine Resident: yes i remeber boxy
    Xirana Oximoxi: we can have grass here too I think:)
    Adams Rubble: yes we can
    archdivine Resident: it is less confrontating
    Multiverse1 Resident: Yes saw it in the wiki
    archdivine Resident: like a mask
    Multiverse1 Resident: completely nuetral
    archdivine Resident: i feel like a vehicle for ideAS
    Xirana Oximoxi: nice :)
    Multiverse1 Resident: Adams wants to graze
    Adams Rubble: hehe
    Xirana Oximoxi: :)
    Multiverse1 Resident: A vahicle, yes, that is why I chose it to enter sl
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Multiverse1 Resident: little laggy
    Multiverse1 Resident: If I poof you'll know why
    archdivine Resident: also a vehicle for multi versions of interpretations
    Adams Rubble: I had some trouble getting here today
    archdivine Resident: oh
    archdivine Resident: its my free sunday afternoon here
    Adams Rubble: nice that you could come
    Multiverse1 Resident: interpretations, reminds me of my train of thought today in a way. I was thinking about "expectaions"
    Adams Rubble: please say more Multiverse
    Multiverse1 Resident: What we expect of ourselves and others, and things such as sl.
    archdivine Resident: yes more is lesss
    Adams Rubble: we expect SL to work. hehe
    Xirana Oximoxi: :)
    archdivine Resident: i know it works for me sometimes
    Multiverse1 Resident: If we shed our expectations, we cannot be disappointed.
    Adams Rubble: yes Multiverse
    archdivine Resident: when i wanna share my ideas
    Xirana Oximoxi: one of my expectation here and also in RL is learning from all the experiences I have
    archdivine Resident: or standing open for others opinions
    Multiverse1 Resident: that can't be helped though, can it?
    archdivine Resident: well i go again
    Multiverse1 Resident: a sponge you are Xirana
    archdivine Resident: bye
    Multiverse1 Resident: bye Arch
    Xirana Oximoxi: bye bye:)
    Multiverse1 Resident: pleasant sailing
    Xirana Oximoxi: yes... I am a sponge :)
    Multiverse1 Resident: A Loofa?
    Adams Rubble: I spent the little break thhinking about expectations and learning
    Xirana Oximoxi: just an exemple..in this short time I've had to look for 'shed', sponge' and 'Loofa' at the dictionary:))
    Adams Rubble: we learn by putting outselves in places where we can learn
    Multiverse1 Resident: I went to a place in Tarpon Springs , you could dive for sponges there, quite neat.
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Multiverse1 Resident: harvest them
    Xirana Oximoxi: Tarpon Springs is a place in SL?
    Multiverse1 Resident: No Floridas, USA. It's real
    Xirana Oximoxi: oh!ok:) ty
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Multiverse1 Resident: You catch a living sponge and take it home, then use it to bathe
    Xirana Oximoxi: and is it allowed to do so?... there must be a lot
    Multiverse1 Resident: loofa sponges
    Xirana Oximoxi: natural sponges are sold here
    Adams Rubble: I did not come expecting top learn that today :)
    Multiverse1 Resident: You have to pay, but it is like fishing, but for sponges
    Xirana Oximoxi: ok
    Multiverse1 Resident: No, what did you expect Adams?
    Adams Rubble: hehe. I expected SL to work
    Xirana Oximoxi: expectations..our topic of today:)
    Multiverse1 Resident: hehe, but it is, is it not. You are there and we are here.
    Xirana Oximoxi: what are your expectations in SL Multiverse?
    Multiverse1 Resident: a bit slow perhaps , yes
    Adams Rubble: yes, but I was about 10 minutes late
    Adams Rubble: but it is good to be here
    Adams Rubble: with you
    Adams Rubble: both
    Multiverse1 Resident: I don't expect sl to expect me to do anything, exept log in and out.
    Xirana Oximoxi: yes! it's nice you've been able to come
    Multiverse1 Resident: 10 whole minutes
    Xirana Oximoxi: and do you expect to have some experiences, feelings, nice conversations...meeting people, ...
    Multiverse1 Resident: another expectation you had of yourself this day Adams
    Xirana Oximoxi: hello Bruce:)
    Multiverse1 Resident: Hi Bruce!
    Adams Rubble: Hello Bruce :)
    Bruce Mowbray: Hey, Xir, Multi and Adams!
    Xirana Oximoxi: :)
    Multiverse1 Resident: I didn't expect Bruce here and now
    Bruce Mowbray: nnor did Bruce!
    Bruce Mowbray: nor*
    Multiverse1 Resident: But it is a good thing, unexpectedly
    Bruce Mowbray listens to catch the drift.
    Xirana Oximoxi: we were talking obout 'expectations' Bruce:)
    Bruce Mowbray: Oh great!
    Bruce Mowbray: Great expectations?
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Multiverse1 Resident: How if we shed our expectations there is little discomfort
    Adams Rubble thinks that is the Dickens
    Multiverse1 Resident: Great works
    Bruce Mowbray: No expectations of glory or pain? Shedding those avoids suffering - - that sort of thing?
    Multiverse1 Resident: yes
    Bruce Mowbray: Wow! Amazing stuff. . . .
    Bruce Mowbray: THAT is precisely what I need to remember this coming week.
    Multiverse1 Resident: or simple expectations such a being at a certain place at a certain time
    Adams Rubble: like PaB. hehe
    Bruce Mowbray: Two MRI's, two doctor app't's, and an echo cardiagram scheduled for this week . . . (and no expectations)
    Multiverse1 Resident: yes , exactly
    Bruce Mowbray: What about the expectations of others?
    Bruce Mowbray: Those that they have of us?
    Multiverse1 Resident: well, some things cannot be changed, they just are.
    Adams Rubble nods
    Bruce Mowbray: but -- do we not have options?
    Adams Rubble: I think the expectations of others is relevant on whether and how we expect to meet them
    Multiverse1 Resident: Yes, the "others" in our lives, have expectaions of us. And do we not all have obligations
    Xirana Oximoxi: the expectations of others sometimes are difficult to hadle... you can disappoint someone doing things that were not expected
    Xirana Oximoxi: handle*
    Adams Rubble: I am having some decisions to make about the many things I am doing and what I can drop
    Adams Rubble: and how much I may disappoint others
    Bruce Mowbray: I have a doctor who is "expecting" me to agree to open-chest surgery. . . . but I have already decided NOT to have that surgery. . . and there might be some difficulties because of my decision (Difficulties in "handling" the consequences.)
    Multiverse1 Resident: yes, we build those expectations in others at times
    Multiverse1 Resident: Time management requirements, then cause us to incorporate our own expectaions, or goals.
    Adams Rubble nods to Bruce. It is some worry about going against those who are taking care of us
    Adams Rubble: but sometimes we need to do it because we know better
    Bruce Mowbray: yeppers. . . especially when they are doctors.
    Xirana Oximoxi: my brothe was in a similar situation Bruce... and he has talked to two doctors each one saying different things... so now, he has told them to talk and try to see what is really the best
    Adams Rubble: They may be more used to it than we realize
    Bruce Mowbray: Mmmm. Good points from both of you.
    Bruce Mowbray: Bye, Multi!
    Bruce Mowbray: I hope I didn't offend. . .
    Adams Rubble: wb Multiverse
    Bruce Mowbray: Oh! There you are again!
    Adams Rubble: SL is a little unstable today
    Xirana Oximoxi: wb Multiverse:)
    Bruce Mowbray: ahhhh!
    Xirana Oximoxi: yes
    Bruce Mowbray: Do we have an arsonist?
    Adams Rubble: apparently
    Bruce Mowbray: Samuo.
    Multiverse1 Resident: I have to say, as I did. I did expect to freeze here today. Expectation fulfilled
    Multiverse1 Resident: hi Observerm
    Xirana Oximoxi: hi observem!!! new year..new avi!! very nice!! :)
    Multiverse1 Resident: Bruce, I would say you know what you want, it could be tough to play it out though, I wish you the guidance you need to acomplish what you have set for yourself.
    Bruce Mowbray: Thank you very much.
    Bruce Mowbray: a lot on the medical plate right now.
    Adams Rubble: yes
    Bruce Mowbray: I have a few wonderful friends in RL who are counseling me well...
    Multiverse1 Resident: Yes, it can be consuming also
    Bruce Mowbray: I am so grateful.
    Xirana Oximoxi: yes.. diffiicult situation and difficult decisions
    Bruce Mowbray: yeppers --
    Bruce Mowbray: Good friends are food for the soul.
    Multiverse1 Resident: It is a wonderful thing, freindship, an unexpected pleasure.
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes. Unexpected riches there.
    Multiverse1 Resident: The best results
    Multiverse1 Resident: I was also thinking about fulfilling expectaions and how it feels to acomplish a goal set for one's self.
    Multiverse1 Resident: a pleasant feeling
    Bruce Mowbray: one's expectations of oneself, Multi?
    Multiverse1 Resident: and when we do not fulfill our goals, only to learn how we failed
    Multiverse1 Resident: and to circumspect
    Bruce Mowbray ponders whether we ever truly "fail."
    Bruce Mowbray: always something there to be worked with --- even our mistakes.
    Multiverse1 Resident: no, a temporary "mind" state indeed
    Bruce Mowbray: and "failtures."
    Bruce Mowbray: failures*
    Adams Rubble: It is important to stop and realize what we have accomplished instead of focusing on the next expectations
    Multiverse1 Resident: yes, that is the point, I think
    Bruce Mowbray: There is a flowing quality to it. . .
    Bruce Mowbray: and occasionally a rock in the stream. . .
    Bruce Mowbray: but the stream flows on.
    Bruce Mowbray: and there will be future rocks, as well. . .
    Multiverse1 Resident: But we need the rocks to cross the stream sometymes
    Bruce Mowbray: and future flowing beyond them.
    Bruce Mowbray: Ahhh! Excellent metaphor, Multi!
    Multiverse1 Resident: and to catch debris, so that an ecosystem can arise.
    Multiverse1 Resident: and then fish and sponges may grow there
    Multiverse1 Resident: haha
    Adams Rubble is thinking of what is left behind when we flow down the stream
    Bruce Mowbray: In this universe (and probably in others that Multi is aware of) there seems to be no ultimate "stagnation."
    Xirana Oximoxi: :)
    Multiverse1 Resident: and the ocean ahead of us.
    Adams Rubble: rejoining the ocean
    Bruce Mowbray: Space is infinite opportunity - - Time is infinite provider. . .
    Multiverse1 Resident: for all rivers to the sea they flow
    Bruce Mowbray: Hmmmm.
    Bruce Mowbray: Well thenks, folks. . . It's time for me to move along for the Guardian session beginning in one minute.
    Multiverse1 Resident: I think of rivers on the Earth as Arteries
    Xirana Oximoxi: hi Yaku:)
    Multiverse1 Resident: Bye Bruce TC
    Adams Rubble: And I must leave today to join the wonderful folks in this room
    Bruce Mowbray: Bye for now.
    Adams Rubble: bye Bruce
    Multiverse1 Resident: Bye Adams, be well
    Xirana Oximoxi: yes... I also come for a while... bye bye Adams, Multi...
    Adams Rubble: Have a wonderful day or evening everyone
    Xirana Oximoxi: have a nice travel Adams! :)
    Multiverse1 Resident: Bye Xirana
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey everyone
    Adams Rubble: thanks going home on the train later today
    Wol Euler: hello and goodbye, see you at the guardians' meeting
    Adams Rubble waves
    Multiverse1 Resident: Hey Yaku and wol?
    Multiverse1 Resident: hi boxy
    Alfred Kelberry: hi :)
    Alfred Kelberry: um, sorry. i have a guardians meeting.
    Multiverse1 Resident: what are you up to Alf
    Multiverse1 Resident: oh see ya

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