2012.01.08 13:00 - Boneless Prunes, Placebos, and Godsmack

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Bruce Mowbray. The comments are by Bruce Mowbray.   A small but happy gathering of marshmallow munchers.  Compassionate doctors, effective placebos, and boneless prunes were featured themes. 

    Multiverse1 Resident: Hi Korel
    Multiverse1 Resident: you annoying female you


    Korel Laloix: That is e... smiles
    Korel Laloix: Not that I can type today to show it...
    Multiverse1 Resident: well Korel, you are well put together this current tymeframe!
    Korel Laloix: Well put together?
    Multiverse1 Resident: I am amazed
    Korel Laloix: At what?
    Multiverse1 Resident: Yes you are absolutely Beautiful!
    Korel Laloix smiles
    Multiverse1 Resident: I nevr new
    Korel Laloix: Thanks... I do try.
    Bruce Mowbray sends 'Hi!' vibes to the usual suspects.
    Multiverse1 Resident: You Succeed Miss!
    Korel Laloix: I try to make my AV as much like me RL as I can, but Korel is much more pretty I have to admit.
    Multiverse1 Resident: wow
    Multiverse1 Resident: ok then
    Multiverse1 Resident: it was an interesting thing, and very pleasant indeed
    Multiverse1 Resident: Hi Bruce
    Korel Laloix: Why interesting?
    Bruce Mowbray: Hi, Multi and Kori.
    Korel Laloix: Bozho
    Multiverse1 Resident: What is Bozho?
    Multiverse1 Resident: A Clown
    Multiverse1 Resident: Bozo?
    Korel Laloix: Hello in Bode'wadmimwen
    Multiverse1 Resident: you are tiny Korel
    Multiverse1 Resident: German?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Bruce, Korel and Multiverse :)
    Bruce Mowbray: Hey, Sharon.
    Multiverse1 Resident: Hi Sophia
    Multiverse1 Resident: How are you/
    Korel Laloix: I am rather small in RL as well.
    Multiverse1 Resident: yes, and now I see how you are in sl as well
    Korel Laloix: Not German... Bode'wadmimwen is a First American Language. Also known as Potawatomi.
    Multiverse1 Resident: Indian?
    Multiverse1 Resident: really?
    Korel Laloix: Preffer the term First American.
    Multiverse1 Resident: Can you show me this/
    Multiverse1 Resident: 1st American. what were their names?
    Korel Laloix: http://www.potawatomi.org/
    Korel Laloix: One of my tribes.
    Multiverse1 Resident: Just looking it up
    SophiaSharon Larnia: wb Multiverse
    Bruce Mowbray: Multi had this problem earlier today, too - He keeps disappearing and reappearing.
    Bruce Mowbray: Maybe it's the heat from that fire.


    SophiaSharon Larnia: smiles
    Korel Laloix: wado
    Multiverse1 Resident: Sorry Korel, I had a Firefox update which booted me
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I have an unavoidable rl distraction atm, brb :)
    Bruce Mowbray: I got the same update, Multi - -
    Bruce Mowbray: kk, Sharon.
    Multiverse1 Resident: hmm
    Bruce Mowbray: I learned a cool fact this week . . .
    Multiverse1 Resident: will it put out the fire?
    Bruce Mowbray: Did you know that placebos are twice as "effective" if they are administered by compassionate health care professionals?
    Bruce Mowbray: Clinical trials prove it.
    Multiverse1 Resident: no, a study of human reactions.
    Bruce Mowbray: Should have said, "twice as effective if administered by doctors who were perceived by their patients as being compassionate."
    Multiverse1 Resident: to imaginary cures?
    Bruce Mowbray: Perhaps imaginary. . .
    Multiverse1 Resident: placebos
    Bruce Mowbray: but what isn't?
    Multiverse1 Resident: hmmm
    Multiverse1 Resident: is the fire, real then?
    Bruce Mowbray: Do you imagine it to be so?
    Multiverse1 Resident: no
    Bruce Mowbray: If so, you are going to toast -- sitting so close to it.
    Multiverse1 Resident: got any marshmallows?
    Bruce Mowbray: :)
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, I do -- Just a second....
    Korel Laloix: Back in a bit.
    Korel Laloix: Thanks much
    Multiverse1 Resident: ha ha ha
    Multiverse1 Resident: you do, damn it!
    Multiverse1 Resident: figures
    Multiverse1 Resident: can't smell or taste them, and they don't burn either
    Multiverse1 Resident: but Very Nice!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: back, sorry to be so rude
    Multiverse1 Resident: roasting fish too?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: marshmallows? :)

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    Multiverse1 Resident: no worries Sh
    SophiaSharon Larnia: eep
    Multiverse1 Resident: you remind me of someone Sophia
    Bruce Mowbray: wb, Sharon!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: thanks Brucie
    SophiaSharon Larnia: and who is that Multiverse :)
    Bruce Mowbray: yw!
    Multiverse1 Resident: wasn't it you who asked if we had met before?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yep
    Multiverse1 Resident: yep
    Multiverse1 Resident: sophia what are you up to?
    Multiverse1 Resident: so-phia
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oh just woke up thought id come to PaB to see what was going on
    SophiaSharon Larnia: what shiny gems I can collect to add to my gem bag
    Multiverse1 Resident: awakening is pleasant
    Bruce Mowbray: Thanks for the photo, Multi!
    Multiverse1 Resident: I'm going to find you one.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yea, the alternative is hmm, interesting, but not for today?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: have a relatively still mind lately, yea, yippee and woot
    Bruce Mowbray: I've been thinking about compassion . . . ever since hearing about the placebos. . .
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oh just read that in chat Bruce
    Bruce Mowbray: and thought that the effects of compassion have been recognized for many centuries -- long before modern medicine and placebos.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: and I'd like to see the data, but i think it could be true
    Bruce Mowbray: I heard it on National Public Radio this week. as I was commuting between doctors.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: but of course, the ethical thing would be to let the patient know that they are receiving a placebo
    Bruce Mowbray: (compassionate doctors, I should add.)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: which negates the experiment/effect :)


    Multiverse1 Resident: tediousness
    Multiverse1 Resident: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=9SSUQxGjZZ4#t=4s
    SophiaSharon Larnia: (I mean in an everyday rl situation not double blind research study)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: but its very evocative --mind over matter!
    Bruce Mowbray: You cannot do that and still call it a clinical study on "placebos" - because by definition, the patient cannot not know she's getting a sugar pill.
    Multiverse1 Resident: my local friends
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ack did i just babble all over the bell? sorry
    SophiaSharon Larnia: right
    Bruce Mowbray: np. Sharon. Probably my fault because I put the fountain down low. Will raise it again now.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: nah, it is my viewer and internet
    Bruce Mowbray: or try to raise it.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Zon
    Bruce Mowbray: Hi, Zon.
    Zon Kwan: heya
    Bruce Mowbray: Care for some marshmallows?
    Zon Kwan: please
    Bruce Mowbray: There you go.
    Zon Kwan: thx:)
    Bruce Mowbray: yw.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: but what would to the rl implications of such a study be? You cant dispense sugar pills and tell them it is something else
    Bruce Mowbray: OK -- Here is my point:
    Bruce Mowbray: The power of compassion to effect change was known at least 2500 years ago....
    Bruce Mowbray: and now modern medicine seems to be demonstrating that.
    Bruce Mowbray: through placebo studies.
    Multiverse1 Resident: 2nd link, if you want it
    Bruce Mowbray: (That will catch you up on the entire session, Zon.
    Multiverse1 Resident: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=9SSUQxGjZZ4#t=4s
    Zon Kwan: how does placebo an compassion relate ?
    Bruce Mowbray: Oh dear. . . now Mozilla wants to update itself -- before I can see that page.
    Bruce Mowbray is anxious he might disappear - like Multi.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: no worries I'll wait Bruce, i cant leave now until i do lolol
    Bruce Mowbray: whoa -- cool sounds!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Bruce said earlier, Zon: Bruce (bruce.mowbray): Did you know that placeobos are twice as "effective" if they are administered by compassionate health care professionals? Should have said, "twice as effective if administered by doctors who were perceived by their patients as being compassionate."
    Bruce Mowbray: Oh cool. Godsmack vid!
    Zon Kwan: hm
    Zon Kwan: i thot it was the belief of the patient
    Bruce Mowbray: Thanks, Sharon.
    Zon Kwan: not the compassion
    Multiverse1 Resident: I helped to write these songs
    Bruce Mowbray: The therapeutic effect of the placebo seems to depend upon the compassion of the doctor.
    Zon Kwan: but that patient is convinced
    Alfred Kelberry: neko girl! :)
    Bruce Mowbray: You did, Multi!!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: right, the patient believing that the caregiver is compassionate
    Bruce Mowbray: Wow, Multi!
    Bruce Mowbray: No wonder you're wearing that great shirt.
    Alfred Kelberry: hi guys
    Zon Kwan: hm
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Boxy *
    Bruce Mowbray: Yoooo hooo, Boxy!
    Zon Kwan: i haven't heard that compassion part before
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I see you have your Box up and running
    Bruce Mowbray: Just heard it this week on NPR, Zon.
    Zon Kwan: npr ?
    Alfred Kelberry: yes, as an aid to new topics, Sharon :)
    Bruce Mowbray: National Public Radio (in America).
    Multiverse1 Resident: national public radio
    SophiaSharon Larnia: nods nods
    Zon Kwan: ah..okie
    SophiaSharon Larnia: wanna marshmallow?
    Alfred Kelberry: and to show off of course :)
    Zon Kwan: is this healthy
    SophiaSharon Larnia: giggles
    Zon Kwan: marshmallow
    Multiverse1 Resident: is mostly European here, no?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: what is, Multiverse?
    Alfred Kelberry: ah, tinies can't hold things in their hands
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oh ok
    SophiaSharon Larnia: have to make you one then
    Bruce Mowbray: I'm in Ohio - USA (unfortunately).
    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    Multiverse1 Resident: hi boxy
    Alfred Kelberry: bruce, unfortunately?
    Zon Kwan: gtg..cya
    Multiverse1 Resident: bye zon
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Zon :)
    Multiverse1 Resident: hi sophria
    SophiaSharon Larnia: is confused, but that's ok :D
    Multiverse1 Resident: join the club
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yea! \..? there's a club?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: joking
    Multiverse1 Resident: an sl term, no?
    Bruce Mowbray: Southern Ohio is a cultural wasteland.
    Multiverse1 Resident: oh it's group here
    SophiaSharon Larnia: some forms of humor do not translate well in chat
    Bruce Mowbray: That's why I'm in SL.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Bruce :))
    Multiverse1 Resident: hmm
    Multiverse1 Resident: a global citizen then
    SophiaSharon Larnia shares some gooey marshmallow with Boxy
    Bruce Mowbray: Oh yes - a global citizen in spirit, to be sure.
    Alfred Kelberry: *sneaks one marshmallow from sharon* :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: haha
    Multiverse1 Resident: can you toast one?
    Alfred Kelberry: um, thank you :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: no need to sneak :P
    Bruce Mowbray: yum yum.
    Alfred Kelberry: *noms*
    Multiverse1 Resident: smores next


    Multiverse1 Resident: brb
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yea smores are delicious but hard to eat
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ok
    SophiaSharon Larnia: maybe compassion could cure the world
    Bruce Mowbray: Sorry about the fountain, Sharon.
    Bruce Mowbray: I can't seem to get it to go back up.
    SophiaSharon Larnia point taken, ty
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i have my graphic settings on the lowest possible, everything scaled back, particles everything!
    Bruce Mowbray: Anyone have some magic words (or placebos) for the fountain?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: its a bleak ugly world
    Multiverse1 Resident: depends on the observer
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i meant my graphic setting, and sl :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: but very true
    Multiverse1 Resident: it's a gorgeous world
    Bruce Mowbray: Hey, Ara!
    Multiverse1 Resident: fix it then
    arabella Ella: Hiya!
    Bruce Mowbray: (speaking of gorgeous world. . . here's arabella! )
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Arabella :)
    Multiverse1 Resident: arabella
    Bruce Mowbray: Would you like some marshmallows, Ara?
    arabella Ella: What are you doing Brucie!
    arabella Ella: Yummy yummie marshmellows yes pls!
    Bruce Mowbray: I am roasting marshmallows, Ara.

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    Bruce Mowbray: kk. . . Just a sec, please.
    Bruce Mowbray: There you are.
    Alfred Kelberry: aph :)
    Alfred Kelberry: oops, ara! :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: how have you been Ara??
    arabella Ella: very well thanks!
    arabella Ella: yourself?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: also well :D, haven't seen you in ages
    arabella Ella: I had a break from SL and I now don't come online as often as i used to
    arabella Ella: but missed u all!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: and I do have to log off ;)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: im in and out too :)
    Multiverse1 Resident: a break-fast
    arabella Ella: well did you know it is David Bowie's 65th birthday?
    Bruce Mowbray: kk, Bye for now, Sharon.
    Alfred Kelberry: *hugs ara* enjoyed the break?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oh it is ?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: smiles
    arabella Ella smiles
    SophiaSharon Larnia: gtg have fun!!!
    Multiverse1 Resident: only 2 songs there
    arabella Ella: well the break was quite an experience!
    Multiverse1 Resident: bye
    Bruce Mowbray: bye bye, SS.
    Alfred Kelberry: ara, please do share!
    arabella Ella: bye SSL
    arabella Ella: its rather private alfie im afraid :)
    Bruce Mowbray listens.
    Bruce Mowbray: ok.
    arabella Ella: i would share if i cud
    Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
    Bruce Mowbray: Hmmmmm. A story as yummy as a marshmallow?
    arabella Ella: marshies are yummier :)
    Bruce Mowbray: Did you get the ones I gave you, Ara?
    Alfred Kelberry: nda, ara? :)
    arabella Ella: yes am struggling to see how to get them out of my inv
    arabella Ella: but also got to remove loads of notifications
    Bruce Mowbray: type the letters "marsh" and they will appear.

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    arabella Ella: what is nda?
    arabella Ella: ah ok ty
    Bruce Mowbray: Yayyyy!
    Multiverse1 Resident: walnuts are roasting next
    arabella Ella: walnuts are yummy yummy too :)
    Multiverse1 Resident: alf, you have no fur
    Multiverse1 Resident: I would like to see you with hair
    arabella Ella: may i share a quick recipe with walnuts, Bruce?
    Bruce Mowbray: Please do, ara.
    Multiverse1 Resident: but, I can imagine it.
    Alfred Kelberry: ara, non-disclosure agreement :)
    arabella Ella: boil some boneless brunes with fresh squeezed orange juice and honey till liquid gets thicker
    Multiverse1 Resident: ah, the chef
    arabella Ella: and add chopped walnuts last few mins
    arabella Ella: delicious
    Bruce Mowbray: what are brunes?
    arabella Ella: owww
    arabella Ella: typo
    arabella Ella: prunes
    arabella Ella: LOL
    Bruce Mowbray: Ohhh!
    Multiverse1 Resident: hajha
    Bruce Mowbray: so, boneless prunes.
    Bruce Mowbray: Hmmmm???
    arabella Ella: LOL
    arabella Ella: and you can add some cinnamon too if u wish
    Bruce Mowbray: yum yum!
    Alfred Kelberry: mmm
    Multiverse1 Resident: that would probably make it
    Alfred Kelberry: *wants a cinnamon bun*
    Multiverse1 Resident: the cinnamon
    arabella Ella: easy and the textures and flavours meld really nicely
    Multiverse1 Resident: meld
    Bruce Mowbray checks inventory for cinnamon buns.
    Multiverse1 Resident: I can taste them now


    arabella Ella: don't make ara too hungry, Brucie
    arabella Ella: i'm on an after xmas diet
    Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
    Bruce Mowbray: Thanks for that IM cue, Boxy.  (Bruce had IM'd Boxy to ask how to make the fountain go up.)
    Bruce Mowbray: If folks do not have their sounds turned on, it's hard to know when the drops happen if there's no fountain going up and down.
    arabella Ella: ah went on a lovely bike ride this morning followed by a bikers party
    arabella Ella: so am exhausted
    Bruce Mowbray: Great!!
    arabella Ella: but lovely to see u all!
    arabella Ella: must get an early night
    Bruce Mowbray: oh -- sry to hear, 'exhausted' -- but sounds like a good exhaustion.
    arabella Ella: good night all! X
    Alfred Kelberry: diet well, ara :)
    arabella Ella: yes it is :)
    Bruce Mowbray: Lovely to see you too, ara.
    Multiverse1 Resident: bye ara
    arabella Ella: soup glorious soup boxy!
    arabella Ella: bye
    Multiverse1 Resident: I too shall vaporize
    Multiverse1 Resident: see ya
    Bruce Mowbray: Bye for now, Multi.
    Bruce Mowbray: well then, it's dinnertime for moi.
    Bruce Mowbray: and these marshmallows aren't going to cut it.
    Bruce Mowbray: See ya later, boxy.
    Alfred Kelberry: bye :)
    Bruce Mowbray: bye ;-)

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