2012.01.15 07:00 - Fire and Ice

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Adams Rubble. The comments are by Adams Rubble.

    There were two sessions today. Korel and I met for the first part and then she departed and SophiaSharon and others arrived. The common denominator was winter but our conversation heated up along with our playfulness. I was having a problem with my keboard this morning and there are some odd sentences coming from me. I left them in because of comments.

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    Part I: Korel and me

    Adams Rubble: Hell Korel :)
    Adams Rubble: Hello
    Korel Laloix: Heya.
    Adams Rubble: you today?
    Korel Laloix: Just got back from a run... need to go showere really.. ick.
    Adams Rubble: How are you today
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Korel Laloix: HOw about you?
    Adams Rubble: my keyboard needs a shower I think
    Adams Rubble: I am well, thank you
    Korel Laloix: One of the bad things about laptops is that you can't just replace your keyboard.
    Adams Rubble: You always can just jump in the fountain but it iss IS a bit icy
    Korel Laloix: Actualy think I will have a nice rince then a nice long hot bath.
    Adams Rubble: For some reason mine is jumping around today
    Korel Laloix: What is jumpint around?
    Adams Rubble: my keyboard that is
    Korel Laloix: OH OK.
    Adams Rubble: my text is getting jumbled
    Korel Laloix: It happens.
    Adams Rubble: yes
    Adams Rubble: I haven't learned why
    Korel Laloix: I have a good frien that just had brain surgury and she is finding she use wrong words sometimes.
    Adams Rubble: that must be distressing
    Korel Laloix: And does not realize it until she reads back when typing or people give her blank stares when face to face.
    Adams Rubble: :(
    Adams Rubble: our brains are so compicated
    Korel Laloix: Especially since she is a teacher of English.
    Adams Rubble: oh my
    Korel Laloix: So that is a matter of prayer and though for me.
    Adams Rubble: we cantedan take much for gr
    Adams Rubble: whoops
    Korel Laloix: But she is just out of the hosptial for a few days now, so we will see what the long term results are.
    Adams Rubble: we can take much for granted
    Adams Rubble nods
    Korel Laloix: Yes, i actually got that... smiles
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Korel Laloix: Getting cold.. brb with coffee and a blanket.
    Adams Rubble: OK
    Adams Rubble: It has warmed up here to 17 degrees now
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Korel Laloix: Back.
    Adams Rubble: wb
    Korel Laloix: Not the best coffee but it is warm.
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Adams Rubble: I have my RL blanket :)
    Korel Laloix: ABout 40 here I think.
    Korel Laloix: Found this lovely blanket at TJ Max.
    Adams Rubble: Thank goodness for central heating :)
    Korel Laloix: King size fleece.
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Korel Laloix: We have it on, but grandma tries to freeze me to death in the summer by having the AC all the way down.
    Korel Laloix: And during the winter, she bundles up and does not turn the heat on...
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Korel Laloix: I can't win.
    Korel Laloix: Amazing how a cup of warm something can warm you up so quickly.
    Adams Rubble: yes
    Adams Rubble: warms ones hands too
    Adams Rubble: laptops are a good source of warmth too :)
    Korel Laloix: Yes, if on your lap.
    Korel Laloix: Oh yum... she is cooking now.
    Korel Laloix: Will wait on the shower then.... smiles
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Korel Laloix: Should be good.
    Korel Laloix: I should probably go help, to at least make sure she does not cooke nough for 10... smiles
    Korel Laloix: Thanks for the chat.
    Adams Rubble: bye Korel :)
    Korel Laloix: Take care.... ciao

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    Part II: Sharon, Multiverse1, Eliza, Bruce, Stephanaia and me:

    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Adams :)
    Adams Rubble: Hello Sharon :)
    Adams Rubble: Nice to see you
    SophiaSharon Larnia: thanks. Nice to see you too
    Adams Rubble: I hope you are staying warm this morning
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes! I went out for the newspaper and nearly froze :)
    Adams Rubble: It is cold out there. hehe
    Adams Rubble: It fells almost like January
    Adams Rubble: feels
    SophiaSharon Larnia: this will sound silly but I actually think 'appreciate the cold' hmm
    Adams Rubble: any appreciation is good :)
    Adams Rubble: we had a nice winter walk in the woods yesterday
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bundled up, a walk in this weather can be delicious
    Adams Rubble: yes
    Adams Rubble: I alwaays think we are a fortunate species to be able to enjoy winter
    Adams Rubble: hello Multiverse :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i miss walks, ive been working so much, walking is the last thing i want to do ;)Maybe ill go today
    Multiverse1 Resident: Hi Adams, Sopia
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Multiverse :)
    Multiverse1 Resident: Sophia
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Multiverse1 Resident: The winter Adams
    Adams Rubble: hard to balance working and walking sometimes
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I walk at work hahahah
    SophiaSharon Larnia: brb pls, coffee is done yay
    Adams Rubble: I sit a lot at work
    Adams Rubble: How are you today Multiverse?
    Multiverse1 Resident: I am fine, and yourself?
    Adams Rubble: I am well thanks
    SophiaSharon Larnia: back
    Adams Rubble: wb
    SophiaSharon Larnia: thanks
    SophiaSharon Larnia: nice to see Alfred's pabbox working :))
    Multiverse1 Resident: I was contemplating winter, before arriving here. We are very fortunate to be able to enjoy this. As I can see outside from my comfortable living room and "see" the 2 degree temperature outside.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: it would be nice it I could just highlight the floating text and copy paste, but it doesn't work like that lol
    Adams Rubble: wow 2 degrees. We are having a heat wave at 17 then I guess
    SophiaSharon Larnia: 2 degress??
    SophiaSharon Larnia: degrees* (it made me stutter)
    Adams Rubble: Even at 2 though we can bundle up and have a nice waalk as long as the snow is not too deep :)
    Multiverse1 Resident: I cannot fathomliving pre" electricity" and surviving in this environment
    Adams Rubble: winter was much harder then
    SophiaSharon Larnia: the rooms were very small!
    Adams Rubble: Someone had to get up and light the stove
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yea. the women :)
    Adams Rubble: those stoves gave off much heat though
    Adams Rubble: hehe, Sharon
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Bruce :)
    Multiverse1 Resident: heat, a narrow avenue in which to survive
    Multiverse1 Resident: Hi Bruce
    Adams Rubble: Hello Bruce :)
    Adams Rubble: They spent much of their time in the warm room
    Bruce Mowbray: Hello, Multi, Adams, and Sophia.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: life is much simpler that way
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i find myself doing it now
    Adams Rubble: more communal
    Multiverse1 Resident: Yes, and to plan for the then unknown events of a new winter
    Adams Rubble nods
    Bruce Mowbray needs to stoke woodburning stove --- (brb)
    Adams Rubble: lots of fire wood chopping
    SophiaSharon Larnia: aw nice Bruce :)
    Adams Rubble: :) Bruce
    Multiverse1 Resident: A village's efforts for all
    SophiaSharon Larnia: its something to think how easy we have it now, comparitively
    Adams Rubble: and how stresssed we are. hehe
    SophiaSharon Larnia: although the environment is suffering for it
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes
    Adams Rubble: yes, that too
    Multiverse1 Resident: Yes, I wonder if I would have made it, back then.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: life spans were shorter as well
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i dont think i wouldve, but then again...
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Eliza :)
    Bruce Mowbray: [back]
    Adams Rubble: Hello Eliza :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: wb
    Bruce Mowbray: Hello, Eliza.
    Multiverse1 Resident: We are fortunate as a speices, to be able to take advantage of the worlds discoveries, and so quickly these days,
    Multiverse1 Resident: Hi Eliza
    Adams Rubble: we are talking about staying warm in winter Eliza
    Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Everyone :) Oh... hm, come to Florida? Best way
    Adams Rubble: and enjoying winter too
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yay, great idea Eliza
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Adams Rubble: hehe Eliza
    Multiverse1 Resident: snow can be a blanket for some lost in the cold
    Adams Rubble: I mind the snow more than the cold
    Bruce Mowbray: It's 8 degrees Fahrenheit here today -- but my woodburning stove keeps the whole place cozy.
    Multiverse1 Resident: tis the opposite for me
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i love woodburnign stoves, they really pump out the heat
    Multiverse1 Resident: and the smells are wonderous
    SophiaSharon Larnia: mhmm
    Bruce Mowbray agrees.
    Multiverse1 Resident: How much do you use the stove, percentage wise, Bruce
    Bruce Mowbray: I only fire it up when the temps drop below 25 degrees (F).
    Bruce Mowbray: Recently, that's been all day long.
    Bruce Mowbray: but it will warm up soon.
    Adams Rubble: Hello Stevenaia :)
    Multiverse1 Resident: It is highly efficient at depleting the cold then
    stevenaia Michinaga: Hello
    Bruce Mowbray: Hello, stevenaia.
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Stevenaia
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Steven :)
    Multiverse1 Resident: Hi Stevenaia
    Bruce Mowbray: yes, very high efficiency...
    Bruce Mowbray: and virtually free. . . since I live in a forest.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: when I lived in a house with one, i would open the door for a few minutes, the downstairs got too warm
    Multiverse1 Resident: Muti is reminded of the marshmallows
    Adams Rubble: :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: thanks Bruce, now wheres the fire hahaha
    stevenaia Michinaga: thx bruce (don't we need a fire for these?
    Eliza Madrigal: watermallows
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hehe (and eww) :P
    Bruce Mowbray: No fire here today to roast marshmallows. . .
    Eliza Madrigal: hehe
    Multiverse1 Resident: got that one too
    Bruce Mowbray: ahhhh! There it is!

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    Eliza Madrigal: magicians among us
    Multiverse1 Resident: a fire on the fountain no less
    Adams Rubble: maybe it will thaw it out
    Bruce Mowbray: Fire on the Mountain --- I Ching Hexagram.
    Bruce Mowbray: Gotta take a photo of this!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: smiles
    stevenaia Michinaga: need more fore
    stevenaia Michinaga: fire
    Adams Rubble: more?
    stevenaia Michinaga: these will just brown
    Eliza Madrigal: careful, alligators like marshmallows... never know what comes up from the fountain
    SophiaSharon Larnia: really? :)
    Multiverse1 Resident: yes I hear it but ...
    Eliza Madrigal: yes, an odd thing but that's what people take to feed the gators here
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oh wow
    Multiverse1 Resident: I seen fish before
    Eliza Madrigal: not I, I am sure it isn't healthy :))
    SophiaSharon Larnia: weird ") maybe they bob on the water attractively
    SophiaSharon Larnia: to an alligator :)
    Bruce Mowbray: Very nice wood fire, Adams.
    Eliza Madrigal: careful not to singe boxy's quote box
    Adams Rubble: I once saw a boat in tuntainhe fo
    Adams Rubble: whoops
    Eliza Madrigal: :)))
    Bruce Mowbray got three very nice photos.
    Adams Rubble: I once saw a boat in the fountain
    Bruce Mowbray: thanks.
    stevenaia Michinaga: was ther the begining of a limmerick, Adams?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: grins
    stevenaia Michinaga: that
    Adams Rubble: hehe
    Multiverse1 Resident: remote control, no doubt
    Eliza Madrigal: yup.... think someone with fiery feet who looked like stevenaia was sitting in it
    Eliza Madrigal giggles
    SophiaSharon Larnia: im trying to get mine to reach, im lazy
    Multiverse1 Resident: the forces of nature, very above us all, yet we can contain them to some degree
    Eliza Madrigal: you are skilled Sophia

    Prometheus, fire, sacrifice and the human species. Somehow this stirs our fires.....

    Bruce Mowbray: We have Prometheus to thank for this, you know.
    Adams Rubble: I loved the steam under the fire
    SophiaSharon Larnia: nah Eliza, just restless
    Bruce Mowbray: (Prometheus and Adams, of course).
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Prometheus
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ?
    Multiverse1 Resident: There are many tales of fire given to man, usually form a playful god
    Bruce Mowbray: Stold fire from the gods and gave it to mankind.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oh right
    Adams Rubble: was punished
    Adams Rubble: tied toock a r
    Bruce Mowbray: Got his liver eaten out every day as a punishment.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: brutal
    Adams Rubble: took one for mankind
    Multiverse1 Resident: the times were difficult then
    Bruce Mowbray: Has mankind yet learned to use fire appropriately and wisely. . . ?

    Nuclear weapons....

    Bruce Mowbray: (considers nuclear weapons and carbon dioxide pollution).
    SophiaSharon Larnia: gifts to mankind seem to be accompanied by a lot of sacrifice
    Multiverse1 Resident: Mutli, is reminded of nuclear meltdowns

    Fire is.....

    Multiverse1 Resident: fire can run rampant
    stevenaia Michinaga: fire seem so much like life, wonders
    Bruce Mowbray: Very understandable that the gods wanted to keep fire for themselves. . .
    stevenaia Michinaga: what is fire thinking
    Multiverse1 Resident: even with our technology, it is a very powerful presence
    SophiaSharon Larnia: fire seems hungry to me
    Multiverse1 Resident: yes, consuming
    stevenaia Michinaga: and we seem cold to it

    Then multiple ideas begin to light up all around us like brush fires

    Bruce Mowbray: Fire consumes - - hunger consumes.
    Adams Rubble: The Hindus use fire as an example to understand the concept of ssomething not being good nor bad
    Adams Rubble: It can warm us or burn down our house
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hmm
    Multiverse1 Resident: we consume, so that hunger is sated
    Eliza Madrigal: gifts can outrun capacities... zeal without knowledge
    Bruce Mowbray: Fire is one of the five Buddhist elements.
    Multiverse1 Resident: key, in many if not all societies
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ! Eliza
    SophiaSharon Larnia: feel that to be true also
    stevenaia Michinaga: is there any society w/o fire?
    Eliza Madrigal: hard to reconcile for me... insightfulness without kindness... yet it seems to show up
    Multiverse1 Resident: The child will touch the flames to see what they are all about. I did anyway. ouch!
    Bruce Mowbray: When the first atomic bomb was tested, some of the scientists involved actually believed that it could destroy the entire planet. . . yet they tested it anyway.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oh Im saving that for later Eliza
    Eliza Madrigal: one would think they'd be tied together :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes
    Adams Rubble: (our cconversation is getting all fired up)
    Eliza Madrigal: nods Bruce... really hard to measure at the time ... "larger good"
    Multiverse1 Resident: hehe
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: (my brain is a little lime in the coconut this am)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Bruce Mowbray loves "lime in the coconut."
    Multiverse1 Resident: drink the juice then Sophia
    Eliza Madrigal: mix it all up
    SophiaSharon Larnia: interesting Bruce, what a risk.....
    SophiaSharon Larnia: like this place is repeatable and means so little?
    Bruce Mowbray: War is madness.
    Adams Rubble: /nme nods
    Multiverse1 Resident: A mad world at times
    Eliza Madrigal: right now there is a controversy over research into bird flu... how to keep the knowledge of how to pass it human to human, contained
    Multiverse1 Resident: yet pockets of peace everywhere
    SophiaSharon Larnia: insightfulness without kindness huh. Can you say more???
    Multiverse1 Resident: mad science
    Bruce Mowbray: I will find a quote used at my morning meditation group a couple of days ago. . . (brb)
    Eliza Madrigal: something I've been musing on a lot... how it is possible to be amazingly insightful and hm, enlightened in some way one would even think, yet blind of heart... or, maybe it isn't but I'm puzzling
    Bruce Mowbray: “Root out the violence in your life, and learn to live compassionately and mindfully. Seek peace. When you have peace within, real peace with others is possible.” ― Thich Nhat Hanh
    Eliza Madrigal: _/ \_ ty Bruce
    Multiverse1 Resident: That describes me very well Eliza
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Thank you Bruce :)
    Adams Rubble: Yaay Thich
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i think me as well, i have anger issues
    Eliza Madrigal: yay Thich, on that we all agree
    Bruce Mowbray ponders "Blind of heart."
    Eliza Madrigal: :))
    Multiverse1 Resident: not anger so much as moving too quickly

    Xirana joins us and then others begin to arrive for the guardian meeting

    Adams Rubble: Hello Xirana :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: thats not to say im not compassionate
    Eliza Madrigal: yes, speed is an issue for me too
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Xirana
    Multiverse1 Resident: nor I
    Bruce Mowbray: reactive anger, Multi?
    Adams Rubble: anger is
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Xirana :)
    Multiverse1 Resident: Hi Xirana
    Adams Rubble: like fire
    Eliza Madrigal: mmm
    Multiverse1 Resident: no, not anger at all
    Bruce Mowbray: Empathy seems to be a difficult learning . . . for many.
    Xirana Oximoxi: hello Adams, Sophie, MUltiverse, Eliza, Bruce
    Xirana Oximoxi: :)
    Bruce Mowbray: Hello, Xir.
    Eliza Madrigal: ty for a sparky session
    SophiaSharon Larnia: and for some, to seperate themselves from empathy is a contant life task
    SophiaSharon Larnia: constant*
    Eliza Madrigal: wow
    Adams Rubble: bye all who are leaving. I will have to leave after this session
    Multiverse1 Resident: merely moving on for one item to the next, too quickly sometimes. And not realizing that I may have missed something before
    Eliza Madrigal: amazing mysteries
    Bruce Mowbray: On to Guardians' Meeting now.
    Xirana Oximoxi: a fire inside the fountain?? :)
    Bruce Mowbray: May all have a warm and beauty-filled day!
    Eliza Madrigal: bye for now,
    Adams Rubble: roasti anaXirng marshmellows this morning
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :))
    Multiverse1 Resident: Bye Brucebe warm
    Adams Rubble: whpoops
    Xirana Oximoxi: bye bye for now:)
    Adams Rubble: roasting marshmanaellows this morning Xir
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Steven you cought on fire!
    stevenaia Michinaga: just my feet
    Xirana Oximoxi: Adams I've seen quickly the information about "today at 12 Justin McCann (WP Sherman) will give a talk in the Kira Cafe on Whistler's Avatars"
    Xirana Oximoxi: I will read it slowly later:) and try to go..thanks:)
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Xirana Oximoxi: :)
    Adams Rubble: Thank you all for a fun session
    Multiverse1 Resident: The fire is spreading quickly, stevenaia
    SophiaSharon Larnia: gtg take care, have a wonderful day :D
    Adams Rubble: bye Sharon
    SophiaSharon Larnia: waves :)
    Multiverse1 Resident: Bye Adams, Sophia, Stevenaia
    Adams Rubble: Bye multiverse :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: see you all later
    Adams Rubble will clean up the mess
    Multiverse1 Resident: good job Adams

    Note: After the cleanup the ice in the fountain remained unfazed by it all

    Adams Rubble: Hello Yaku
    Adams Rubble: hehe. thanks Multi

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    Multiverse said: "Merely moving from one item to the next, to quickly sometimes. And not realizing that I may have missed something before". That's how I feel reading this session from this morning. Thank you for the food for thought everyone.
    Posted 22:34, 15 Jan 2012
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