2012.01.28 19:00 - Your Heart in the Hearing, Not Just Data on the Page

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    [19:02] Pila India: hi Arch
    [19:03] Archmage Atlantis: pkoiHi pila
    [19:03] Archmage Atlantis: oops
    [19:03] Archmage Atlantis: weary fingers
    [19:03] Archmage Atlantis: Hi Pila
    [19:03] Pila India: my SL crash rate is very high these days
    [19:04] Pila India: not sure how long this episode will endure

    [19:04] Archmage Atlantis: Tech is moving faster than we can climb :)
    [19:04] Pila India: can't seem to sit yet ...
    [19:05] Archmage Atlantis: Pila, the guardian session shows this session is to be hosted by Pema
    [19:05] Pila India: aha
    [19:05] Pila India: are you substituing for him?
    [19:05] Archmage Atlantis: I have claimed some logs, and they were lost
    [19:05] Archmage Atlantis: no, I am not
    [19:07] Archmage Atlantis: Never mind, claiming that which is, that is better than to allow it to fade
    [19:07] Pila India: lagging badly


    [19:08] Archmage Atlantis: Perhaps it is the solar flares
    [19:08] Pila India: anything interesting around your part of the planet recently?
    [19:08] Archmage Atlantis: preventing communication
    [19:09] Pila India: it is my internet srvice -- very flaky
    [19:09] Archmage Atlantis: Only the Republican primaries
    [19:09] Pila India: cell modem with a bad signal
    [19:09] Pila India: aha -- yes


    [19:09] Archmage Atlantis: Here in the land of the hanging chad
    [19:09] Pila India: or circus as some have said
    [19:10] Pila India: Hawaii is no less vulnerable to insider political games
    [19:10] Pila India: most places have that problem
    [19:10] Archmage Atlantis: *smile*
    [19:10] Archmage Atlantis: Yes, Hawaii is polyglot
    [19:10] Archmage Atlantis: like Florida
    [19:11] Archmage Atlantis: many peoples
    [19:11] Archmage Atlantis: many ideas


    [19:12] Pila India: I think the primary source of corruption here actually can be traced back to the plantation days, when just a few people controlled almost everything
    [19:12] Pila India: that set the tone sop to speak
    [19:12] Pila India: late 1800's and early 1900's
    [19:13] Archmage Atlantis: I think we white ppl give ourselves too much power.....the slave trade that my ancestors relied on was based on the willingness of other African peoples to sell
    [19:13] Pila India: the Mafia has a saying, I've been told: 'get 'em dirty and you've got 'em'
    [19:14] Pila India: money can do the rest
    [19:15] Archmage Atlantis: I have another saying....All can be cleansed, and all can be freed
    [19:15] Pila India: these oppressive situations, political and otherwise, could benefit from such a condition
    [19:17] Pila India: I wonder why some people seem to glom onto corrutpion instead of freer and cleaner thoughts
    [19:18] Archmage Atlantis: This is an impertinent question, especially in an an open meeting......]
    [19:18] Archmage Atlantis: TY,....you did answer
    [19:19] Pila India: YW :) {?]


    [19:19] Archmage Atlantis: Do you like Hawaii?
    [19:19] Pila India: yes, I do
    [19:19] Archmage Atlantis: Which Island are you located on?
    [19:20] Pila India: Hawai`i (sometimes called the Big Island)
    [19:20] Archmage Atlantis: Ok
    [19:20] Archmage Atlantis: Not so trendy, but ok
    [19:20] Archmage Atlantis: *grin*
    [19:20] Pila India: no, kind of the untrendy part
    [19:21] Pila India: except perhaps for geologists
    [19:21] Archmage Atlantis: I spent a bit of time in South Beach Miami....I didn't know it was "in" until I was gone
    [19:21] Korel Laloix: osiyo
    [19:21] Archmage Atlantis: go figure
    [19:21] Pila India: hi Korel
    [19:21] Archmage Atlantis: Oseyo Korel
    [19:21] Pila India: how are you?
    [19:21] Korel Laloix: Just taking a study break.
    [19:21] Korel Laloix: A bit brain full at the moment.


    [19:22] Pila India: I just finished watching a video about John Trudell
    [19:22] Pila India: I saw him in person about 15 years ago, very good poet
    [19:22] Pila India: Shoshone I think (maybe not)
    [19:22] Korel Laloix: Which vid?
    [19:22] Archmage Atlantis: Tell us about "John Trudell"... it will same me from going to google and wikipedia
    [19:23] Pila India: 'Trudell' :)
    [19:23] Korel Laloix: Sioux I think actually.


    [19:23] Archmage Atlantis: And, it will give me your heart in the hearing, not just the data on the page


    [19:23] Pila India: he's been an Indian activist since the occupation of Alcatraz, long long ago -- becamea poet = has some albums
    [19:24] Pila India: ahh, probably so Korel
    [19:24] Korel Laloix: Son of a Santee Sioux father and a Mexica Indian mother
    [19:24] Korel Laloix: From a bio of him.
    [19:24] Pila India: :)
    [19:24] Pila India: he has a very uplifting presence
    [19:25] Pila India: charismatic
    [19:25] Korel Laloix: Will watch some of the vids.
    [19:25] Korel Laloix: Thanks.


    [19:25] Korel Laloix: I have a distrust of charisma though.
    [19:26] Korel Laloix: But I will watch openly.


    [19:26] Pila India: he began the talk when I saw him by saying, 'you may not agree with what I say, and if so, let''s just eave it at that'
    [19:26] Pila India: yes, he is not out to win followers
    [19:26] Pila India: his scerity shines thru is perhaps a btter description
    [19:26] Pila India: not a sales kind of charisma
    [19:26] Korel Laloix: I tend to start conversations about politics and the like in a similar manner... smiles
    [19:27] Pila India: :)
    [19:27] Korel Laloix: But I do love hearing other perspectives.
    [19:27] Pila India: well, his life expereince is very deep, so his persepctive is pretty well fixed


    [19:27] Korel Laloix: Find it so faschinating how we can see roughly the same facts and come to such huge different conclusions.
    [19:28] Pila India: like the story of the blind people and the elephant :)
    [19:28] Korel Laloix: Good for he.
    [19:28] Korel Laloix: Good for him.
    [19:28] Pila India: :)
    [19:28] Korel Laloix: Lost in English again.


    [19:29] Pila India: one thing I rememebr well from his talk was his idea of genetic memory
    [19:29] Pila India: that was the first I heard of it, 15 years ago
    [19:29] Pila India: he said we all come from tribes somewhere in the past
    [19:29] Korel Laloix: I have heard about that recently.. let me find the article.


    [19:29] Pila India: and our subconcsious still has emmories of those days
    [19:33] Korel Laloix: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vld-gzQVE0Y
    [19:33] Korel Laloix: I thoughts this was interesting.
    [19:33] Korel Laloix: Sort of painful to watch though.
    [19:33] Pila India: I'll save the lin, thanks -- too likey to crash if I try opening it now
    [19:33] Korel Laloix: Morphic Resonance as he calls it.
    [19:34] Pila India: hi Cal
    [19:35] Korel Laloix: Heya


    [19:35] Korel Laloix: It is sort of amazing how much we don't know.


    [19:35] Calvino Rabeni: Heya heyo everyone!
    [19:35] Korel Laloix smiles
    [19:35] Pila India: ;0
    [19:36] Calvino Rabeni: I kind of take it for granted, but it would be great to be more amazed by it
    [19:36] Korel Laloix: Letting yourself be amazed might be a skill.
    [19:36] Korel Laloix: I think we try to force ourselves out of it maybe.
    [19:36] Calvino Rabeni: Especially since the amount I don't know that I don't know is the most massive part of the "potentially knowable"
    [19:37] Korel Laloix: Being amazed can be unsetteling I think sometimes.
    [19:37] Calvino Rabeni: outstripped again by the unknowable
    [19:38] Korel Laloix: Let me know what you think about that video please. It is a bit..... not sure the word.... smiles
    [19:38] Pila India: I got the video to open on another computer, I see it is Terence Mckenna


    [19:39] Calvino Rabeni: I was amazed recently by a layer of snow that slid and rolled up on itself like a jellyroll .. it seems there's no end to the amazing things water is capable of doing


    [19:39] Pila India: he is a bit ... but infomrative
    [19:39] Korel Laloix smiles
    [19:40] Korel Laloix: Never heard of the guy before.
    [19:40] Pila India: sorry, crashed
    [19:40] Pila India: [using text only now]
    [19:40] Calvino Rabeni: There are some amazements constructed by a group ... this one can be explained of course, but still surprising to see -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EYAU...layer_embedded
    [19:40] Korel Laloix: NO worries.
    [19:41] Korel Laloix: Thanks.
    [19:41] Pila India: yes, that is a nice one Cal
    [19:43] Korel Laloix: I can get a bit addicted to youtube sometimes
    [19:43] Korel Laloix: So much good stuff there.... but... so much that is amazingly bad as well... smies
    [19:45] Calvino Rabeni: Yes true, one gets the good, bad, and the ugly
    [19:45] Korel Laloix: YOu are nicely ruthed Pila....


    [19:45] Pila India: Korel, the Sheldrake video on his theory of morphic fields is interesting
    [19:45] Pila India: :0
    [19:45] Pila India 's morphing obstructed
    [19:47] Pila India: wiki says he agrees with the Hindu concept of akashic records, a 'term from Vedas representing the "library" of all the experiences and memories of human minds (souls)'
    [19:47] Pila India: I've always liked the akashic records

    [19:48] Korel Laloix: Interesting, may have to read on this more, I will put him in my journal.
    [19:48] Korel Laloix: Would like to see some research data though.


    [19:49] Pila India: well, he is one the edge of metaphysics, so some of it may not be objectively quanitfiable
    [19:49] Korel Laloix: Which is perfectly OK with me.
    [19:50] Pila India: me too
    [19:50] Calvino Rabeni: The Records seem likely to be a read/write medium
    [19:50] Korel Laloix: People tend to hide behind the "objective" if you ask me.
    [19:51] Calvino Rabeni: It's interesting, humanity seems poised on the brink of a new relationship to such information-like structures
    [19:51] Korel Laloix: Could be.


    [19:52] Pila India: "In 2003 Sheldrake published research on human telepathy in an experiment where subjects guessed which of four people was going to telephone or send an email. Sheldrake reported that the subject guesses the person correctly about 40% of the time instead of the expected 25%"
    [19:52] Korel Laloix: Would be interesting to see the structure of that research.


    [19:53] Calvino Rabeni: The concept of information itself shifting, for example toward a "big data" paradigm for information related technologies
    [19:54] Korel Laloix: I just think there are things in our world that we will find as we get futher into it that are not explainable with just physics and chemistry.
    [19:54] Calvino Rabeni: The nature of statistical knowledge is different in that context, probability means something different
    [19:54] Calvino Rabeni: yes it's a shift from that kind of reductionism in explanation
    [19:55] Korel Laloix: Interesting, I just read tht Sheldrake got stabbed during a talk.
    [19:55] Calvino Rabeni: the patterns - I think morphic fields are another word for it - become first class conceptual entities
    [19:55] Pila India: wow, a really expressive critic it seems
    [19:55] Korel Laloix: I guess some folks don't like his stuff.
    [19:55] Calvino Rabeni: eek
    [19:56] Calvino Rabeni: Yes, a pointed criticism


    [19:57] Calvino Rabeni: I was reading about a research project that created a phone app that would ask people at random times (1) what are you doing right now, and (2) how happy do you feel right now?
    [19:57] Korel Laloix: Intereting approach.
    [19:57] Pila India: "I stepped down from the podium and was talking to people in a small group that had gathered around me. Suddenly I felt a violent blow on my left thigh, as if I had been punched. It was totally unexpected, and I did not see my assailant run towards me. He was rapidly pulled away. I looked down at my leg, and to my astonishment saw the handle of a dagger sticking out of my trousers. "
    [19:57] Calvino Rabeni: So they're starting to collect "big data" about one aspect of the collective subjective field
    [19:58] Calvino Rabeni: perhaps it's a layer of the Akashic Records :)
    [19:58] Korel Laloix: Evidently the guy that stabbed him was a Japanses fellow that thought Sheldrake was using mind control telpathy on him.


    [19:59] Calvino Rabeni: Well it might be said that Sheldrake was invoking demons and one appeared
    [19:59] Calvino Rabeni: His field talk is spooky to some people
    [19:59] Korel Laloix: I can imagine.
    [20:00] Korel Laloix: But a lot of people are spooked by anything that is not overly analytical.
    [20:00] Korel Laloix: brb
    [20:00] Pila India: "After stabbing me, he was rapidly brought to the floor by an Australian rugby player, and was held down by several men until the police led him away in handcuffs. While on the ground, he apparently said that the voices had told him to attack me"
    [20:01] Pila India: looks like demons indeed Cal
    [20:02] Pila India: I guess spooky can mean outside the confines of accustomed perception
    [20:03] Pila India: beyond that line thar be demons 
    [20:04] Calvino Rabeni: That seems like a useful way to define it
    [20:05] Korel Laloix: There is comfort in being sure about things regardless of your perspective though.
    [20:06] Korel Laloix: brb.... snack
    [20:06] Calvino Rabeni: Yes, it seems people are always treading the edge of their comfort zone(s)


    [20:09] Pila India: hmm, the thought of a snack seems to be guiding my comfort zone
    [20:09] Calvino Rabeni: it morphs
    [20:09] Calvino Rabeni: kitchen-wise
    [20:09] Pila India: nice to see you Arch, Korela nd Cal ... yes, off to the kitchen 
    [20:09] Pila India: bye for now :)
    [20:09] Korel Laloix: Take care...
    [20:09] Calvino Rabeni: Bye Pila be well
    [20:09] Calvino Rabeni: :)
    [20:10] Pila India: :)
    [20:10] Korel Laloix: Just having some chicken wings.... yummy


    [20:11] Korel Laloix: So what else is on anyone's mind?


    [20:11] Calvino Rabeni: Salmon and peas
    [20:11] Calvino Rabeni: and interdependent arising

     

    [20:11] Korel Laloix: That does sound good.
    [20:11] Calvino Rabeni: hmm I wonder if those go together?
    [20:11] Korel Laloix: Give it a try.... smiles
    [20:12] Calvino Rabeni: though I did feel a bit chicken
    [20:12] Korel Laloix: I have some smoked salmon I need to take care of this weekend.


    [20:13] Calvino Rabeni: I'd listented to this video by David Stendl-Rast on an interreligious talk with the Dalai Lama
    [20:13] Calvino Rabeni: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rNGUNaYQnk
    [20:13] Calvino Rabeni: I'm not attuned to the theology involved in it, but was interested in the amount of sociological thinking he was expressing
    [20:14] Korel Laloix: I have a copy of the Bible Book of James with an INtro by the Dali Lama. Put together it is an interesting read.
    [20:16] Korel Laloix: http://www.amazon.com/Book-James-Epi.../dp/B004E9TJ8C
    [20:16] Calvino Rabeni: looks
    [20:17] Korel Laloix: Does not go into it, but the Dalai Lama is listed as the Introduction Author.
    [20:20] Korel Laloix: Thanks for the chat. Off to another discussion


    [20:20] Calvino Rabeni: Take care
    [20:20] Calvino Rabeni: bye for now
    [20:20] Calvino Rabeni: And goodbye also Archmage
    [20:21] Calvino Rabeni: And Koya
    [00:09] Rasima Petrovic: heya arch
    [01:04] Riddle Sideways: Hey Arch and Yak
    [01:04] Riddle Sideways: What is Yak looking at?
    [01:04] Yakuzza Lethecus: good morning everyone
    [01:04] Yakuzza Lethecus: or night, evening
    [01:04] Riddle Sideways: or whichever
    [01:05] Riddle Sideways: afterall what is this time zone stuff
    [01:06] Yakuzza Lethecus: guten morgen wol
    [01:06] Wol Euler: morning all
    [01:06] Yakuzza Lethecus: hey qt
    [01:06] Riddle Sideways: good [time zone] wol
    [01:06] Qt Core: Hi all!
    [01:06] Wol Euler: heheheh
    [01:06] Riddle Sideways: Hi [time zone] Qt
    [01:06] Wol Euler: same to you, riddle. Unusual to see you at this space/time node
    [01:07] Riddle Sideways: can't go to sleep with this buzz o the amplifiers in the head
    [01:07] Riddle Sideways: it got loud tonight
    [01:07] Wol Euler: heh
    [01:07] Qt Core: disco night ?
    [01:08] Riddle Sideways: street dance
    [01:08] Wol Euler: cool
    [01:08] Riddle Sideways: several hundred drunks
    [01:08] Riddle Sideways: amazing to see their reality
    [01:09] Wol Euler: were you playing?
    [01:09] Riddle Sideways: hmmm, never sure of playing vs practising
    [01:09] Wol Euler: heheeh
    [01:09] Riddle Sideways: made some music
    [01:09] Wol Euler: okay, you had your instrument with you and used it?
    [01:09] Wol Euler smiles.
    [01:10] Riddle Sideways: and a big loud amplifer
    [01:10] Riddle Sideways: drunk crowds seem to like our music
    [01:10] Wol Euler chuckles.


    [01:10] Yakuzza Lethecus wonders if musicians make a difference between playing an instrument and making music with an instrument
    [01:10] Wol Euler: half a compliment is better than none, they say
    [01:11] Riddle Sideways: yak, no difference
    [01:11] Riddle Sideways: who is playing whom
    [01:11] Wol Euler nods.
    [01:12] Riddle Sideways: is all play
    [01:13] Riddle Sideways: but yes, there is that state of whom is playing whom
    [01:13] Riddle Sideways: can study all the notes, but playing is another thing
    [01:14] Qt Core: can't agree more (and that's why i can't play anything ;-) )
    [01:14] Wol Euler: :)
    [01:16] Riddle Sideways: but I interupted, what is your song tonight?
    [01:17] Riddle Sideways: what song was stuck all day ./ night
    [01:17] Riddle Sideways: and for what reason


    [01:18] Wol Euler: I have a snatch of Gilbert and Sullivan in my head: "I polished that knocker so assiduously that now I am the ruler of the King's navy."
    [01:18] Wol Euler: woke up with it in my head, probably it came during a dream
    [01:19] Wol Euler: oh, I know where it came from, lucid dreaming about bad management :)
    [01:19] Riddle Sideways: and what does it mean
    [01:20] Wol Euler: in the context of the dream it was a political rant about managers who act as though there were no difference between a 14 yr old about to take his first job ever
    [01:20] Wol Euler: and a 40 yr old who has worked for the company for longer than he has been alive
    [01:20] Wol Euler: that her knowledge of procedures, precedents, problems and customers is of no value
    [01:20] Archmage Atlantis: Oybey....getting old is a b...otch...........falling asleep in one reality, and waking up in another
    [01:20] Wol Euler: yeah
    [01:21] Riddle Sideways: old only improved that arch
    [01:21] Wol Euler: some managers believe that person and role below themselves (important point) is fungible
    [01:21] Archmage Atlantis: :)
    [01:21] Wol Euler: they have value, all others are essentially worthless
    [01:22] Wol Euler: aaaaaanyway, that was my song
    [01:22] Riddle Sideways: and the ones that like to hear themselves speech
    [01:22] Qt Core: dilbert anyone ;-)
    [01:23] Wol Euler: please do
    [01:23] Riddle Sideways: yep, sounded like a Dilbert
    [01:24] Archmage Atlantis: Hey, I was a manager in another lifetime....can't remember how many ago, however.....if I'm lucky, that was purgatory and now I get to pass through to heaven
    [01:24] Archmage Atlantis: but I'm not betting on it *grin*
    [01:24] Wol Euler smiles.
    [01:24] Riddle Sideways: go ahead and bet
    [01:24] Archmage Atlantis: :)


    [01:24] Wol Euler: managers are like lawyers: there are good and bad, and the bad ones make the reputation of the class as a whole
    [01:25] Archmage Atlantis: same with parents, teachers, police, Wol
    [01:25] Wol Euler: also true
    [01:26] Wol Euler: perhaps it is a general principle: we assume goodness so we notice badness?
    [01:26] Archmage Atlantis: All "authority"
    [01:26] Riddle Sideways: what if we didn't assume either
    [01:26] Archmage Atlantis: Interesting, Wol.....I would state the converse as the hypothesis
    [01:27] Archmage Atlantis: The ppl here in PaB, do seem to fit your Hypothesis, Wol
    [01:27] Qt Core: or we start wit the optimistic approach and then fall down to the pessimistic one ?
    [01:27] Archmage Atlantis: assuming the good first that is
    [01:27] Wol Euler: okay, we (this circle) need to assume between we (principally the media landscape) who notice and publish badness and we (private people among themselves) who notice and promote goodness
    [01:28] Wol Euler: s/assume/differentiate/
    [01:28] Archmage Atlantis: Fright sells
    [01:28] Archmage Atlantis: Just is


    [01:28] Wol Euler begins to understand Dash's unhappiness about "we" :)
    [01:28] Archmage Atlantis: and always has
    [01:29] Archmage Atlantis: :))....good for you Wol
    [01:29] Wol Euler: yes, I think it is
    [01:29] Qt Core: there should be some news show reportng only or mostly good news, just a couple min a day would suffice ;-)
    [01:29] Riddle Sideways: pronouns... who needs em
    [01:30] Qt Core: have to go in a hurry sorry, bye
    [01:31] Riddle Sideways: bye QT, nice to see ya
    [01:31] Yakuzza Lethecus: bye qt
    [01:31] Riddle Sideways: have to go slowly
    [01:31] Wol Euler: bye qt, sweet dreams
    [01:31] Riddle Sideways: sory
    [01:31] Yakuzza Lethecus: *wonders about saying bye to the log
    [01:32] Riddle Sideways: talk to the log all the time
    [01:32] Archmage Atlantis: Wow, Riddle......just had a flash of Eric Burton's "War, um, what is it good for, absolutely nothing"
    [01:32] Wol Euler: bye riddle, take car
    [01:32] Wol Euler: *care
    [01:32] Riddle Sideways: yep, spent days on that one
    [01:32] Wol Euler: don't sleep in the car
    [01:32] Yakuzza Lethecus: no it´s not about you saying it riddle, generally, it often happens
    [01:33] Yakuzza Lethecus: take care riddle
    [01:33] Riddle Sideways: of what?
    [01:33] Yakuzza Lethecus: urself
    [01:33] Riddle Sideways: :)


    [01:34] Riddle Sideways: [time zone] exit phrase to ya'll


    [01:34] Wol Euler smiles.
    [01:34] Archmage Atlantis: I like that
    [01:34] Archmage Atlantis: (time zone) exit phrase to y'all
    [01:34] Wol Euler: perhaps we can abbreviate it to TZA, timezone appropriate
    [01:34] Wol Euler: TZA Greetings, people
    [01:34] Archmage Atlantis: tzep y'all
    [01:35] Archmage Atlantis: like that also Wol
    [01:36] Archmage Atlantis: It the wikipedia entry still up for Kira Institute?
    [01:36] Archmage Atlantis: NM, I'll look
    [01:36] Wol Euler: good question
    [01:37] Archmage Atlantis: yep, still there...good :)
    [01:38] Wol Euler smiles.
    [01:38] Wol Euler: so, what else is new on this fine if still wintery sunday?
    [01:39] Archmage Atlantis: Well, it's a cooll 65 degrees F outside
    [01:40] Archmage Atlantis: (lost my F to C calculator during the last rl body crash)
    [01:40] Archmage Atlantis: looking
    [01:40] Wol Euler: that is cool, about 12 or 14 I guess
    [01:40] Yakuzza Lethecus: here - 2,2 i already grabbed my guitar when riddle talked about music once, had a lot of old memories triggerd and stopped practicing as usually right after that
    [01:41] Yakuzza Lethecus: ° C here
    [01:41] Wol Euler: wow
    [01:41] Archmage Atlantis: Cpparently, that is
    [01:42] Wol Euler: -1 C here, seamless light-grey overcast
    [01:42] Archmage Atlantis: it is 29.4 C


    [01:43] Wol Euler: there's a really nice quality of light on such days: a kind of ambient glow all around, without shadows
    [01:43] Wol Euler: you see a patch of dark directly under things, but no cast shadows
    [01:44] Archmage Atlantis: Living here on the edge of the everglades, with no city lights, we still get to see the stars on a moonless night
    [01:44] Archmage Atlantis: Oh, and we were adopted by a husky dog
    [01:44] Wol Euler nods.
    [01:45] Archmage Atlantis: She just showed up and stayed
    [01:46] Yakuzza Lethecus: that´s nice :)
    [01:46] Archmage Atlantis: Her name is Kiya
    [01:47] Archmage Atlantis: She has blue eyes
    [01:47] Yakuzza Lethecus: is she firends with ur new cat ?
    [01:47] Wol Euler: I'm glad she is still around
    [01:47] Archmage Atlantis: Yes, Wol
    [01:47] Archmage Atlantis: and Yaku
    [01:47] Archmage Atlantis: everyone seems to be willing to make it work
    [01:47] Wol Euler smiles.
    [01:50] Archmage Atlantis: Ode to Joy *grin*
    [01:50] Wol Euler: good idea, I haven't heard any Beethoven in ages
    [01:52] Archmage Atlantis: I don't think I was truely old enough, or has suffered enough, to understand Beethoven until about 20 years ago
    [01:52] Archmage Atlantis: Before that is was all Bach
    [01:53] Wol Euler smiles.
    [01:55] Yakuzza Lethecus: have a good day everyone, hope you can sleep a bit longer arch
    [01:55] Wol Euler: bye yaku, enjoy the day
    [01:55] Archmage Atlantis: Blessings and Namaste, Yaku
    [01:55] Archmage Atlantis: Via conDios
    [01:56] Archmage Atlantis: (visit viacondios.com)
    [01:56] Wol Euler does.
    [01:56] Archmage Atlantis: *chuckle*
    [01:56] Wol Euler: have you looked at it lately?
    [01:56] Wol Euler: i.e. today?
    [01:56] Archmage Atlantis: no
    [01:56] Wol Euler: I think you might be surprised and disappointed
    [01:56] Archmage Atlantis: tell me about what you see
    [01:57] Wol Euler: domain has expired, it's a dating site scam
    [01:57] Wol Euler: (looks like a scam somehow)
    [01:57] Wol Euler: it displays content from snog.com
    [01:57] Archmage Atlantis: very like the Newt


    [01:58] Archmage Atlantis: For me, Ode to Joy, is about what is possible
    [01:58] Wol Euler nods.
    [01:58] Archmage Atlantis: and what is doable in this moment
    [01:59] Archmage Atlantis: It is a secular form of faith
    [01:59] Wol Euler: indeed
    [01:59] Archmage Atlantis: song over
    [01:59] Archmage Atlantis: changing track
    [01:59] Archmage Atlantis: we have 1 minute
    [02:01] Archmage Atlantis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLqj7kzRZbA
    [02:01] Wol Euler: not available in Germny, thanks Sony. But I know the song
    [02:02] Archmage Atlantis: Simple Gifts, sung in complex harmony, with a large choir in the Morman Tabernacle
    [02:02] Archmage Atlantis: A true juxtaposition
    [02:04] Wol Euler nods.
    [02:04] Archmage Atlantis: Wol....I remember
    [02:05] Wol Euler: mmm?
    [02:05] Archmage Atlantis: The first time you came to sit in the new land in SL that I was able to own at that time
    [02:06] Wol Euler smiles.
    [02:06] Archmage Atlantis: This human body may forget.....but this "soul" does not
    [02:06] Wol Euler: you had a small pond among trees, and a few large stones that we sat beside
    [02:06] Archmage Atlantis: yes
    [02:09] Wol Euler: happy days; absent friends
    [02:10] Archmage Atlantis: cue song "sing choirs of angels"
    [02:10] Archmage Atlantis: All lives in our hearts.....Mr. Lion
    [02:10] Wol Euler: true
    [02:11] Archmage Atlantis: namaste, friend
    [02:11] Wol Euler: take care, arch
    [02:11] Wol Euler: sleep well
    [02:11] Archmage Atlantis: :)

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