2012.02.07 07:00 - Happiness Runs in a Circular motiON

    subtitle: "Mouth corners radar"

    The Guardian for this meeting was Riddle Sideways. The comments are by Riddle Sideways.  Joined by Sam, Xirana, Rasima, Bleu, Bruce, Ewan and Yakuzza.

    A glimse:

    Bruce Mowbray: In a setting in which everything participates with everything else, no one entity "has happiness."      Even to say "we are sharing happiness" seems not quite on the mark. It's more like "Here is happiness" -- as if everything is both embracing happiness and being embraced by it.
    oO0Oo Resident: I enjoyed that song Bruce.. thanks :)


    Riddle Sideways: o Hi oO
    oO0Oo Resident: Hi Riddle !

    Riddle Sideways: am on a biz meeting conference call too
    Riddle Sideways: sorry if am not holding my part of conversation
         Honest, this is the first time this GoC had to also listen to a phone meeting at the same time.
        Did not really have to talk on either of these meetings, but maybe that helped :)

    oO0Oo Resident: No worries.. I am sitting contently :)
    Riddle Sideways: is a nice quiet content morning
    Riddle Sideways: Hi Rasima
    oO0Oo Resident: Hi Rasima !
    Riddle Sideways: Hi Xir
    oO0Oo Resident: Hola Xirana

    Riddle Sideways: Rasima, not sure if we have met before?
    Xirana Oximoxi: hi Rid, Sam :)
    Xirana Oximoxi: Hello Rasima

    Riddle Sideways: have you been here before
    Rasima Petrovic: hey there
    Rasima Petrovic: I've been here before yes
    Rasima Petrovic: wow am i tired
    Rasima Petrovic: x.x
    Rasima Petrovic: i think im gonna go back to sleep
    Rasima Petrovic: xD
    Rasima Petrovic: see you guys ltaer
    oO0Oo Resident: Sleep well Rasima
    Xirana Oximoxi: see you!! sleep well :)

    Riddle Sideways: well, this really is a quiet session
    oO0Oo Resident: :)
    Xirana Oximoxi: :)
    oO0Oo Resident: smiley too

    Xirana Oximoxi: we can continue thinking and talknig about 'happiness':)... I've reading the chats of lasts days, and what I've noticed are the different mmeanings each one gives to words like 'joy' pleasure' happiness'..:)
    Riddle Sideways: is on the todo list: read about happiness
    Xirana Oximoxi: for some' joy is a spontanous feeling...others find this word more deep sense
    Xirana Oximoxi: :)
    Xirana Oximoxi: in my to do list, there is to think how to express in a painting the 'hapiness'
    Riddle Sideways: if it could be imagined it can be painted?
    Riddle Sideways: more like imaged
    Xirana Oximoxi: well.... maybe I can imagine some image that suggest 'hapiness'
    oO0Oo Resident: what kind of happiness Xir?
    oO0Oo Resident: ;)
    Bleu Oleander: hi all :)
    Riddle Sideways: Hi Bleu
    oO0Oo Resident: Hi Bleu

    Xirana Oximoxi: no idea ,Sam :)... maybe the 'hapiness' has different sides or ways to understand it..
    Xirana Oximoxi: hi Bleu :)
    Riddle Sideways: Hi Bruce, gtsy

    Xirana Oximoxi: Bleu.... I guess you've put a new challenge with your proposal :) at least for me...at the moment ... :)
    oO0Oo Resident: Hi Bruce :)
    Xirana Oximoxi: hi ruce
    Bleu Oleander: hiya Bruce :)
    Xirana Oximoxi: Bruce! *
    Bruce Mowbray: Good day, everyone!

    oO0Oo Resident: Is there a happiness that is something we have.. that can be dropped? and another happiness that is akin to the 'play' in Play as Being?

    Riddle Sideways: happiness is such a dynamic thing. seems hard to make a static image on it
    Bleu Oleander: happiness is an emergent state of mind
    Xirana Oximoxi: 'hapiness' is an abstract concept...we can not 'have' it.... maybe we can understand it and express it insome way
    Riddle Sideways: Hi Yak
    Xirana Oximoxi: I am really curious to see the works at the Dome :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey everyone
    Bleu Oleander: hey Yaku!
    Xirana Oximoxi: hi Yaku
    Bruce Mowbray: Bon jour, Yaku.
    oO0Oo Resident: Hi Yaku

    Bleu Oleander: me too Xirana!
    Xirana Oximoxi: :)
    Bleu Oleander: some very interesting conversations so far
    Xirana Oximoxi: yes... it will help to get ideas:)

    Bruce Mowbray is afraid that his "Happiness Box" is outside the rules for this time.
    Bleu Oleander: everyone has their own ideas ... fun to mix and match them
    Xirana Oximoxi: what do you mmean Bruce?
    Bruce Mowbray: (too many photos) -- one on each side of a cube.)
    Xirana Oximoxi: ahhh ok :)
    Bleu Oleander: only 1 photo
    Bleu Oleander: but can be used many ways
    Bruce Mowbray: I can rez it here (temporarily) if you want to see what I mean.
    Bleu Oleander: ok
    Xirana Oximoxi: yes..it would be nice to see it
    Bruce Mowbray: just a sec... be right back, then.
    Bleu Oleander: only 1 photo/texture allowed
    Xirana Oximoxi: ok:)
    Bleu Oleander: unlimited colors and shapes though

    Yakuzza Lethecus: wb bruce
    Xirana Oximoxi: wb:)...quick travel :)
    Bleu Oleander: lovely Bruce!
    Bleu Oleander: but yes, too many photos :(
    Bruce Mowbray: TY! but too many photos.
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hello ewan
    Xirana Oximoxi: ahhh yes!! wonderful pictures... and you have broken the rules :))
    Bleu Oleander: hi Ewan
    Xirana Oximoxi: hello Ewan :)

    Riddle Sideways: a very tough rule to have only ONE happiness image
    oO0Oo Resident: Nice Bruce :)
    Ewan Bonham: Hi Folks...:)
    Bruce Mowbray: Hey, Ewan.
    Riddle Sideways: Hi Ewan
    oO0Oo Resident: Hi Ewan !

    Bleu Oleander: tough challenge Riddle, but worth it!
    Bleu Oleander: find a creative way to express yourself using just one texture/photo
    Xirana Oximoxi: to synthesize in one all the images ..hmmm...difficult :)
    Bleu Oleander: use the image in a creative way
    Xirana Oximoxi: yes...we will have to
    Xirana Oximoxi: :)

    Bleu Oleander: don't think of it as only one photo
    Bleu Oleander: can be a texture as well
    Bleu Oleander: photo or texture .... or photo as texture
    Bleu Oleander: don't forget color
    Bleu Oleander: and shape
    Bleu Oleander: and happiness of course
    Xirana Oximoxi: :)
    Bleu Oleander: :)
    oO0Oo Resident: :)

    Riddle Sideways: now am singing "Happiness runs, Happiness runs ..."
    oO0Oo Resident: http://is.gd/ADqwgV
    Bruce Mowbray: "... in a circular motion..."
    Bleu Oleander: can't hear you Riddle :)
    Riddle Sideways: :))
    Bleu Oleander: do you know when you are "happy"?
         How nice that this STUCK all day long.  Still humming it :))
    Bruce Mowbray: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cGWTAe3M6U
    Bleu Oleander: ty Bruce :)
    Bruce Mowbray: yw!
         oh and this one is so happy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTfdO...eature=related

    Bleu Oleander: do you know what will make you happy?
    Xirana Oximoxi: I know whe I 'feel' happy :)
    Bruce Mowbray: what will, Bleu?
    Ewan Bonham: I feel a sort of balance and well being feeling when I am 'happy'..
    Riddle Sideways: or know when I was happy, just after
    Bleu Oleander: how good are you at predicting happiness?
    oO0Oo Resident: mouth corners radar?
    Ewan Bonham: Not very..
    Bleu Oleander: :) Ewan
    Bleu Oleander: I don't think most of us are
    Bruce Mowbray love "Mouth corners radar"!!
    Bruce Mowbray: loves*

    oO0Oo Resident: Can you say more about your idea that people may not be happy Bleu?
    oO0Oo Resident: Or did you mean.. not so good at predicting?
    Bleu Oleander: I meant people may not be good predictors of what WILL make them happy
    oO0Oo Resident nods
    Bruce Mowbray: In a setting in which everything participates with everything else, no one entity "has happiness." Even to say "we are sharing happiness" seems not quite on the mark. It's more like "Here is happiness" -- as if everything is both embracing happiness and being embraced by it.
    oO0Oo Resident: I enjoyed that song Bruce.. thanks :)
    Xirana Oximoxi: maybe we can predict and know what can make us happy...but sometimes life runs in another direction and it's not easy to drive to the right one
    Bruce Mowbray: yw! (Thanks to Donovan too.)

    Riddle Sideways: for later: http://www.positivityratio.com/single.php
    Riddle Sideways: not now
    oO0Oo Resident: ty Riddle
    Bleu Oleander: happiness is context dependent
    oO0Oo Resident: relational
    Ewan Bonham: Bleu...I agree with U
    Ewan Bonham: But there are those that say happiness is something only the individual can provide...
    Bleu Oleander: everyone's experience is unique and gives us a background, lens for feeling happy
    Bleu Oleander: so different happys for different people
    Ewan Bonham: Seems to vary with what helps us to keep it going...:)
    oO0Oo Resident: http://is.gd/ideuI9
    Riddle Sideways: or is it what triggers happiness in each individual that is different
    Riddle Sideways: and maybe happy is universal
    Ewan Bonham: I think it is always there for us..
    Riddle Sideways: like the home page of google.com triggers happy today (for me)
    Bleu Oleander: easier said than done Sam ... ty for the link!
    Ewan Bonham: No mystery on what it feels like..
    Ewan Bonham: And i do think we can claim it..
    Bleu Oleander: I think there are different degrees of happiness
    Ewan Bonham: Yet in each of us, some things may stand in the way.
    Bleu Oleander: your "very happy" may be different than mine
    Bleu Oleander: hard to even tell what someone means when they say they are happy
    Bleu Oleander: very subjective
    Bleu Oleander: hard to compage
    Bleu Oleander: compare*
    oO0Oo Resident: So, what's the usefulness of asking about happiness? What does it serve?
    Bleu Oleander: nice question San
    Bleu Oleander: Sam
    Bleu Oleander: what do you think?

    Yakuzza Lethecus: i think 50 percent is at least that we allow ourself to be happy, in a secure safe and for us personally stimulating environment it could just happen naturally, but then grasping and thinking why things are not right how an individual live might be lived and the stack of concerns in the back of the heads

    oO0Oo Resident: I'm not sure it is that useful
    Bleu Oleander: may be interesting to investigate that idea in your art piece Sam
    Ewan Bonham: Yes...all that can stand in the way of our meeting with happiness..

    Riddle Sideways: yet Yak, happiness can sneak in
    Bleu Oleander: when you least expect it!

    Xirana Oximoxi: at least is a useful question to share our opinions related to it, our feelings... positive or negative...
    Bleu Oleander: so when I say "I'm not happy with this conversation" ... do I mean I'm not actually happy?
    oO0Oo Resident: and is this conversation an artwork to do with happiness?
    Bleu Oleander: :)
    Bleu Oleander: performance piece
    Xirana Oximoxi: we can convert it to poetry...maybe :)
    oO0Oo Resident: is art always a conversion of sorts?
    oO0Oo Resident: just as happiness is removed by concepts of it?
    Bleu Oleander: conversation between artist and viewer
    Bleu Oleander: experiencer
    Xirana Oximoxi: well....probably yes.... to create is to modify and recreate
    oO0Oo Resident: maybe that is all extra
    Ewan Bonham: So are we saying we create our own awareness of our happiness?
    oO0Oo Resident: 'artist', 'viewer', 'we create'

    Bleu Oleander: :)
    Bleu Oleander: we are not even always aware of our own happiness perhaps?
    oO0Oo Resident: happiness has ownership?
    oO0Oo Resident: :)
    Xirana Oximoxi: maybe we can ask ourselves about hapiness because we are lucky
    Bleu Oleander: are happiness and virtue related?
    Bruce Mowbray: So sorry, but I have to meet Eliza at the top of this hour. Thanks for the conversation!
    oO0Oo Resident: own reward?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: bye bruce
    Bruce Mowbray: bye for now.
    Xirana Oximoxi: bye Bruce! :)
    Ewan Bonham: bye bruce..
    oO0Oo Resident: Bye Bruce :)

    Ewan Bonham: Virtue in being true to self?
    oO0Oo Resident: what if there is no self then?
    Bleu Oleander: then no one to experience happiness
    Xirana Oximoxi: I also go now... good day to all and see you soon! :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: see you later xirana
    Bleu Oleander: I should get to work also
    Bleu Oleander: nice to see everyone
    oO0Oo Resident: Bye Xirana :)
    Xirana Oximoxi: bye..see you later :)
    Bleu Oleander: bye and be happy :)
    Xirana Oximoxi: :)
    oO0Oo Resident: Bye Bleu :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: bye all leavers
    Riddle Sideways: bye

    Yakuzza Lethecus: bleu :)
    Ewan Bonham: Bye Xirana..
    oO0Oo Resident: Seems safe to say, that people would like to be happy and not suffer .. anyway
    Riddle Sideways: yes safe
    Riddle Sideways: Seems safe to say, happiness comes from/to within
    Yakuzza Lethecus: yes, unhappiness at least partially too
    oO0Oo Resident: Well.. thanks for the conversation. i too will leave now. :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: bye sam
    Ewan Bonham: Bye Sam..
    Ewan Bonham: I am going as well...:)
    oO0Oo Resident: Wish you all well :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: bye everyone
    Ewan Bonham: Bye and ty for the convo...very reflective..
    Riddle Sideways: bye all and thanks

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