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*Wol Euler was guardian for this session.*

Alfred Kelberry: wow

Wol Euler: good morning, boxy

Alfred Kelberry: fancy chinese doll?

Wol Euler: heheh

Alfred Kelberry: except, the sit animation is wrong

Alfred Kelberry: :)

Alfred Kelberry: seen the driveway? :)

Wol Euler: ?

Alfred Kelberry: check your email :P

Wol Euler: ah

Wol Euler: hehehehhe

Wol Euler: serves them right for not employing an architect :)

Alfred Kelberry: maybe there was one, but his excel calculation was wrong :)

Wol Euler: possible but unlikely, for financial reasons

Alfred Kelberry: cool hat, btw

Wol Euler: that's a brand new subdivision, all new houses in an all new area

Wol Euler: in North America such things are always built as complete units, speculative ventures by a single developer

Alfred Kelberry: oh

Wol Euler: they have a pattern book of standard types, they build 3 of type A, then 4 of type B ...

Alfred Kelberry: wow

Alfred Kelberry: impressive :)

Wol Euler: there was an architect to design those types, but that was probably fifteen years ago and two hundred miles away

Wol Euler: still, *someone* should have noticed

Alfred Kelberry: :)

Alfred Kelberry: i'm going to send you more pictures like this. love your analysis :)

Wol Euler: heheheh

Alfred Kelberry: i assume you did take part in the booming construction before the 2008 crisis?

Wol Euler: indeed, we lived quite well from it, while it lasted

Wol Euler: and while our prime customer was in business

Alfred Kelberry: by my rough calculations you should own at least 2 yachts and 5 houses

--BELL--

Wol Euler smiles. You have a somewhat romanticized idea of architects :) Too many films.

Alfred Kelberry: yes, i suppose not much like the wall street folks

Alfred Kelberry: which sucks

Wol Euler: nope :)

Wol Euler: yep :)

Wol Euler: there are millionaire architects, sure; but they tend to be the very old owners of huge firms that were very successful 30 years ago

Wol Euler: Sir Norman Foster, for example

Alfred Kelberry: ah, the sir

Wol Euler: yep

Alfred Kelberry: you should start a company too

Wol Euler: too late

Wol Euler: well, I do intend to live a very long time, and to die at my desk, so perhaps it isn't

Alfred Kelberry: :)

Wol Euler: but the thing that made Foster rich and famous was his talent and hard work, and his Jobs-like ability to be a bastard to people who worked for him

Alfred Kelberry: ah, that

Wol Euler smiles.

Alfred Kelberry: i suppose it comes with the package

Wol Euler: mmhmm

Wol Euler: his dedication to a perfect concept came at the human cost of 80 hour workweeks for low wages for his staff

Alfred Kelberry: that's all good, but the real feat is to get a massive bailout and then pay yourself a multi-million bonus

Wol Euler: yep

Wol Euler: which architects cannot do, sadly

Alfred Kelberry: yea

Wol Euler: giving government money to poor people is socialism! it's a bad thing.

Wol Euler: giving government money to rich people is the market forces working as they should :)

Wol Euler: QED

Alfred Kelberry: kudos to canada though

Wol Euler: for dropping out of the Kyoto protocoll?

Alfred Kelberry: conservative approach to banking worked

Wol Euler: ah, that :)

Wol Euler: I think it was more innate natural caution than any thought-out plan

Alfred Kelberry: i think it's culture

Alfred Kelberry: in that sense, i can emphasize another country that did well - germany

Wol Euler: mmhmm

Wol Euler: there is a similarity, yes

Alfred Kelberry: i hope the occupy movement will change the wall street mindset, but highly doubt it

Wol Euler: unlikely, in my view, because they are ignorant uninformed peasants motivated solely by jealousy

Alfred Kelberry: it's clear that the current condition is toxic

Wol Euler: (the mindset :)

Wol Euler: yes, it is, but that is only clear to those who are not inside it

Wol Euler: from inside it probably looks like paradise

Wol Euler: "jam today, jam tomorrow, what could be bad?"

Alfred Kelberry: that's how they presented it, yet i think they were all well aware of what they're doing

Wol Euler: sure, but htey were doing it to us, not to themselves. Point me at one single person who quit in protest

Wol Euler: they were delighted to take huge bonuses for poisoning the world's economy

Alfred Kelberry: i recall one guy shot himself during the enron scandal. that's about it.

Wol Euler: it went on for years, boxy. they kept on going back to work and throwing more shit into the system, day after day, year after year

Alfred Kelberry: yes

Alfred Kelberry: the saddest thing is that you really can't let them all fail

Wol Euler: because ... ?

Wol Euler: okay, wait, the banks as institutions probably do have to be saved

--BELL--

Alfred Kelberry: it'll be the cleansing that will bring down the credit system

Wol Euler: but let's fire every last bastard in them, and sue everyone who took part in the scam

Alfred Kelberry: agreed

Wol Euler: every penny of bailout money that was used for bonuses (and I do NOT give a shit how "bonus" is defined) MUST be paid back, with penalties

Wol Euler: personal and corporate

Alfred Kelberry: yep

Alfred Kelberry: good plan :)

Wol Euler smiles.

Wol Euler: I found a statistic somewhere, that the hourly wage of American factory workers increased by ten cents between 1970 and 2010. The hourly wage of factory owners increased by 14000 dollars.

Wol Euler: that is unjust, and probably unsustainable

Alfred Kelberry: wow

Wol Euler: unfortunately it seems like a kind of tragedy of the commons at work

Alfred Kelberry: well, if you ask me, by the damage that the wall street kings caused to people, i'd put them through spanish inquisition first

Wol Euler: agreed :)

*Having exhausted our bile, we paused for a moment or two.*

Alfred Kelberry: um...

Alfred Kelberry: no one's coming, i guess

Wol Euler: to what?

Alfred Kelberry: session

Wol Euler: we are here.

Alfred Kelberry: yep

Wol Euler: heheheheheh

Alfred Kelberry: first, it was just the circle. rotation was suggested by stev :)

Wol Euler: for the log: boxy has rezzed a faintly glowing red ring outside the cushions, we are sitting on it and rotating slowly around the fountain

Alfred Kelberry: oh, it's been covered in the logs a few times already :)

Wol Euler: ah

Alfred Kelberry: i think

Alfred Kelberry: :)

Alfred Kelberry: it was 1 rpm, which seemed a bit fast, so now it's 0.5 rpm

Wol Euler: this is about right, I feel

Wol Euler: maybe even a little slower

Wol Euler smiles.

Alfred Kelberry: ok, after the pause, we'll try the boost mode :)

Alfred Kelberry: never been done before

Wol Euler grins.

Alfred Kelberry: :)

--BELL--

Alfred Kelberry: ok...

Wol Euler grins and holds on tight.

Alfred Kelberry: level 1

Wol Euler: wheeeeee

Alfred Kelberry: :)

Alfred Kelberry: level 2

Wol Euler notes her hair and whips trailing behind

Alfred Kelberry: :)

Alfred Kelberry: level 3

Alfred Kelberry: level 4! :)

Wol Euler: O.O

Wol Euler: this is now faster than my frame rate :)

Wol Euler: seeing a jumping-effect

Wol Euler: gah!

Alfred Kelberry: haha

Wol Euler: stop!!

Alfred Kelberry: level 5

Alfred Kelberry: special relativity effects are visible :)

Wol Euler: indeed

Alfred Kelberry: level 0

Alfred Kelberry: ommm

Wol Euler: much better!

Wol Euler: whew

Alfred Kelberry: brb

--BELL--

Wol Euler: this is very cosy, boxy.

Wol Euler: well, boxy that was a fascinating 15 silent minutes with you, but I have to get ready for work. Take care, be happy.

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